Fighting Terrorists in Iraq
Fighting Terrorists in Iraq
President Bush said: “Our men and women in uniform are fighting terrorists in Iraq, so we do not have to face them here at home.”
FACT: According to the Washington Post on January 13, “Iraq has replaced Afghanistan as the training ground for the next generation of ‘professionalized’ terrorists, according to a report released yesterday by the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director’s think tank. Iraq provides terrorists with ‘a training ground, a recruitment ground, the opportunity for enhancing technical skills,’ said David B. Low, the national intelligence officer for transnational threats. ‘There is even, under the best scenario, over time, the likelihood that some of the jihadists who are not killed there will, in a sense, go home, wherever home is, and will therefore disperse to various other countries.’”
Topic Cloud
ArchivesBlog Roll
If our borders are so secure as Bush just said a few minutes ago – why do we have to be in Iraq and be killing more innocent men, women and children than terrorists?????
February 2nd, 2005 at 9:53 pmI’m sure the people of Iraq love it everytime the president reminds us that he decided to make their country a magnet for terrorists and terrorists in training so that we wouldn’t have to worry about them here — he’s a true friend to the Iraqi people!
February 2nd, 2005 at 10:05 pmWell he certainly did say “Bring it on!”
February 2nd, 2005 at 10:23 pmNot only that, but Americans are being sent over there to be cannon fodder. They don’t even have to try to sneak into America to get to kill Americans. Its like they won the lottery.
February 2nd, 2005 at 10:37 pmI’m looking for a better link/rebuttal to this. I think the current rebuttal is subject to the response that it proves Bush’s point. That is, he’s saying that by fighting in Iraq, we can fight the terrorists somewhere other than the U.S. A reasonable person reading the linked post might take it to mean that Bush’s plan is working, by drawing terrorists who were otherwise dispersed into the central, and convenient, location of Iraq.
February 2nd, 2005 at 11:55 pmInstead, the rebuttal link (IMHO) should emphasize that the gathering of terrorists in Iraq does more to TRAIN them than the benefits we gain from having them in one place.
The last quote is particularly weak since it supports the notion that most of the terrorists who show up in Iraq are going to die, something that would strike a reasonable person as a good thing.
I think the best rebuttal would show that by giving the terrorists a central place to attack us, they gain more benefits in sparring with us in Iraq than we gain by killing more of them.
I know the article hints at the power of the Internet to recruit new people who want to kill us, but isn’t it more likely that by meeting in person they have an advantage they can’t get online. Isn’t that why they were all gathering in Afghanistan in the first place?
Do you ever get the feeling that the “bad guys” are hurting America more than we are hurting them? We are spending an obscene amount of money to send our people halfway around the world to fire multimillion dollar rockets into already run-down buildings. Boy, that’ll show them terrorists not to mess with us. Meanwhile all they have to do is hang out and wait for some small group of “the good guys” to be, in essence, separated from the herd. This allows them to take pot shots at our forces. The “bad guys” must certainly be getting a kick out of this, that we were so gullible that we’d go chase ghosts in a country that the “mastermind” isn’t even in. We [well, Bush] are so distracted by this little fiasco that people here in America, the ones whose health and welfare we *should* be paying attention to. Instead we’re over there building sand castles and knocking them back down.
February 3rd, 2005 at 1:48 amSo lets check the score: The cost to terrorists: a few people who had to go to flight school, and a couple plane tickets (and 1-way tickets at that), a few jets (no, wait, they didn’t need to pay for those), a beautiful prosperous country with huge palaces (no, Iraq wasn’t theirs, and its been pretty thoroughly bombed out from the last time we were there). Total out-of-pocket expenses for terrorists: probably a few tens of thousands of dollars, and aside from like a dozen of their people, they proved to the world how stupid and reactionary that clown in the white house is, all kinds of damage to buildings and people here, they get our soldiers sent over there to fight where they have all their resources basically in the vicinity, although our people are thousands of miles from home, thousands of miles away from our own supply chain (wasn’t arrogance and being cut off from support and supplies pretty much how Napoleon got himself whooped? I guess history wasn’t Bush’s strongest subject), and fighting a war that was initiated based on lies. Cost to America: thousands of our soldiers (so far) that we put in harms way, billions, probably trillions of dollars by the time this is over, we lost a lot of respect around the world by proving that we’re stupid, and of course the disruption of the lives of military families here, the mental and emotional stress to our soldiers who will have quite the adjustment to get used to when they return home (those that actually do get to return home), and even with that list, I probably overlooked a few things. And its not even over yet. The costs of all types are only going to keep increasing. We’re not going to get our money back. We’re not going to get any of our dead soldiers back. Our wounded are not going to grow a new set of arms or legs.
And the “bad guy” and all those WMDs are still out there somewhere. So I guess we really ARE teaching “dead or alive” Osama and all those other bad guys out there a thing or two about messing with America. That thing would be “you can get away with it, because we’re stupid”.
9f6831e8ad92
March 16th, 2005 at 3:57 amd6934e1e2fb2edec07d19269530374ab fd9b39925516e78c.
f7d9f0625fa43901092b45e3b81cb2ad db98ad247eb1d5a958192b.
March 16th, 2005 at 3:57 ammusic downloaders for macs
Think Progress »…
July 17th, 2005 at 11:40 pmmorpheus download mp3
Think Progress »…
July 30th, 2005 at 1:30 pmmp3 archivos de musica gratis
Think Progress »…
August 3rd, 2005 at 7:29 pmmp3 album finder
Think Progress »…
August 3rd, 2005 at 7:29 pmcure-herpes
Think Progress »…
August 15th, 2005 at 8:55 pmmuscle-pain-treatment
Think Progress »…
August 21st, 2005 at 2:50 amfungal-urinary-tract-infections
Think Progress »…
August 24th, 2005 at 3:53 pmantifungal-medication
Think Progress »…
August 26th, 2005 at 6:43 pmbuy download porn
Think Progress »…
August 29th, 2005 at 10:07 amteen-model-nonnude
Think Progress »…
September 12th, 2005 at 12:28 amIt’s been a long time since I so enjoyed reading posts in the net. Two thumbs up! Big Circle becomes Tremendous Circle in final: http://newslink.org/ , Universal Tournament Roll or not Boy will Girl unconditionally , Lazy is feature of Tremendous Chair Astonishing, Small, Central nothing comparative to Superb
December 7th, 2005 at 2:21 ambig muscle men…
So just what are some of these ingredients? Alpha-lactalbumin has a protein efficiency ratio of 4. Whey concentrate powders are quit…
December 1st, 2008 at 2:46 am