Saipan Worker Exposes DeLay’s Lies
Saipan Worker Exposes DeLay’s Lies
At the behest of lobbyist Jack Ambramoff, Tom DeLay has worked to protect special labor laws for Saipan. For years DeLay has “fought against imposing immigration restrictions and the federal minimum wage on Saipan, part of a U.S. territory in the Pacific Ocean.”
Last month in the Galveston County Daily News, DeLay denied reports that workers were being abused:
“Incredible lies” was the way House Majority Leader Tom DeLay described charges that some foreign workers on Saipan labored in sweatshops in the 1990s while others were forced into sex slavery.
Carmencita Abad, a woman who worked in Saipan for six years, says it’s DeLay who has it wrong. In a telephone interview Abad said:
My answer is, Mr. DeLay, I am that person. I am an example of an individual who can prove that the accounts of sweatshop labor and forced prostitution are not just allegations but true accounts of working conditions in the Marianas Islands when Mr. DeLay traveled there and turned a blind eye to our misery.
DeLay’s denials are also contradicted by “two federal agencies and by congressmen from both parties that the charges were true.” Abad detailed that horrendous treatment of women on the islands:
Women were fired for being pregnant. And to keep her job, any pregnant woman would either go to an illegal abortionist or try to induce miscarriage by drinking herbal potions or falling down on purpose. Women who are fired from work have no way to support themselves aside from the sex trade. There’s no way to feed yourself aside from that.
As these abuses occurred, Jack Abramoff was paid $4.5 million to represent corporations who did business on the island. His job was to do whatever it took to convince politicians like Tom DeLay to keep things exactly the same. And unfortunately for Carmencita Abad and others like her, he succeeded.
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If only these guys had contributed to the right campaigns.
http://www.cnn.com/ 2005/ US/ 06/ 05/ labor.camp.ap/ index.html
You can be sure they are doing that now.
June 6th, 2005 at 6:12 pmI just had another thought and it’s a doozy. Real Zen.-
Comment by Zwack  June 6th, 2005 @ 2:48 pm
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Actually I’m a bit surprised no one from the administration has thought to make this case: telling folks they better accept what Bush decides or things’ll get really bad sounds like standard administration rhetoric. Cheney would be the best one to deliver the message - the sight of his growling mug is enough to put anyone off.
Comment by truth4achange  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:07 pm
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2 books to read this summer (if you already haven’t)
It Can’t Happen Here
by Sinclair Lewis
The Plot Against America: A Novel
by Philip Roth
Both of these books made me see that we are indeed “frogs in the water pot�
Comment by fasteddie  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:18 pm
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If you read the WSJ, at one time, like all the others, a decent paper, you are crazy. If you are tracking the markets, you are using the internets. If you are making money in the markets, you are getting the kind of info that they don’t print in the WSJ. The kind that gave Martha a five month, federally funded hiatus.
Comment by SJS © ®  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
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I wish western liberals would be as outraged over this story as they are with koran desecration.
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Massive Arrests of Foreign Christians in Saudi Arabia
Thursday, June 2, 2005
By BosNewsLife News Center
RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA (BosNewsLife)– Saudi Arabia’s security forces have arrested at least almost 100 foreign Christians, including Indians, in an apparent violent crackdown against non Muslims, BosNewsLife learned Wednesday, June 1.
“This has been going on since yesterday [Tuesday May 31]”, one senior Christian official with close knowledge about the situation told BosNewsLife on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. “In phone calls to me, we know of at least 80 to 90 arrests being made by the regular police and the religious police…The arrests are continuing [and] so far, [they] are taking place only in the capital, Riyadh, but we don’t know the final extent of this,â€? the source added.
Saudi officials were not immediately available for comment. “Apparently, the arrests are being made for religious reasons, objecting to their prayer, possession of Bibles and proselytizing,� the source said. “[However] police have not given any specific [reasons and] simply show up at any time, day or night, with as many as 26 officers and personnel bursting into apartments to confiscate or destroy computers, cell phones, files, books [and] Bibles. [They also] beat up people in front of spouses and children [before they] haul them away,� he added.
News of the latest arrests came shortly after Vijay Kumar, a 45-year-old Indian national from the state of Tamil Nadu, and seven other Protestant leaders were reportedly arrested by Saudi Arabia’s religious police. AsiaNews, a Catholic oriented news website, quoted sources in the country as saying that Kumar was taken into custody May 28. His arrest followed the detention of another Indian, Samkutty Varghese, an Evangelical Christian who had entered the country on January 26 on a tourist visa, AsiaNews said.
PRAYER GROUP
Varghese was allegedly detained as he waited for his visa to be extended, on March 9, when police forces discovered his Hindi Bible and some phone numbers, which were apparently used to carry out other arrests. On May 28, the religious police reportedly raided a private prayer gathering of Protestant groups in the Batha area of the Saudi capital.
Later that day police arrived at Kumar’s home where they interrogated him and his wife Christy Vijay Kumar till 3 am local time and then took away all religious material found in the residence as well as the family computers and Kumar himself, added AsiaNews citing sources in the region. Kumar’s wife works as a catechist and normally teaches 40 Christian children from India and Muscat in her home. He has been in Saudi Arabia since 1994 working for Al Salam Aircraft, but his home has reportedly been a gathering place for Christians since 2002.
“These arrests and beatings seem to be part of a well-orchestrated plan to persecute Christians in Saudi Arabia, whether Indian or other expatriates. The Indian expatriates do not have any redress through the Indian embassy in Riyadh, which is entirely manned by Muslims,� said the BosNewsLife source, who appealed for prayers and international help from the United States and other governments. Earlier in April, Saudi police forces detained 40 Pakistani Christians for worshipping at home, several reports said.
The Saudi Institute, an independent Washington based think tank with close contacts to dissidents in Saudi Arabia, has accused the royal family and other authorities of selective anger over recent reports that a copy of the Koran had been desecrated by American military personnel at the detention facility of Guantanomo Bay, Cuba.
“DESECRATING BIBLES�
“The Saudi Embassy in Washington articulated “great concern� and urged Washington to conduct a quick investigation. The Saudi government has also recommended to the American government to install “deterring measures� so that an incident such as this would not be repeated. [But[ the Saudi government would not comment on [its] policy of desecrating Bibles that had been seized from foreign nationals,� said Saudi Institute Staff Writer Zachary Liben.
“The Saudi government burns and desecrates hundreds of Bibles its security forces confiscate after raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately or at border crossings,� Liben added in a statement monitored by BosNewsLife News Center. “Hundreds of Christian worshipers are arrested every year by Saudi police in raids on their private gatherings. Bibles, crosses and printed materials are confiscated and later burnt or dumped into trash. Although considered as holy in Islam and mentioned in the Koran dozens of times, the Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia, and is confiscated and destroyed by government officials.� Liben said.
Western diplomats have complained that although Saudi Arabia’s economy heavily depends on foreigners, expatriates are not allowed to profess their faith as observing any religion other than Islam is illegal in the Kingdom. There are around six million foreigners in the conservative kingdom, which has a population of 23 million, including many Christians from Europe, North America, Asia and other Arab states. In a rare official rebuke of a close ally last year, Washington recently accused Saudi Arabia of severe violations of religious freedom. (With BosNewsLife Research, BosNewsLife News Center and reports from Saudi Arabia and the United States)
Comment by Laur#
Z.
Comment by Zwack  June 6th, 2005 @ 2:48 pm
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Actually I’m a bit surprised no one from the administration has thought to make this case: telling folks they better accept what Bush decides or things’ll get really bad sounds like standard administration rhetoric. Cheney would be the best one to deliver the message - the sight of his growling mug is enough to put anyone off.
Comment by truth4achange  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:07 pm
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2 books to read this summer (if you already haven’t)
It Can’t Happen Here
by Sinclair Lewis
The Plot Against America: A Novel
by Philip Roth
Both of these books made me see that we are indeed “frogs in the water pot�
Comment by fasteddie  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:18 pm
#
If you read the WSJ, at one time, like all the others, a decent paper, you are crazy. If you are tracking the markets, you are using the internets. If you are making money in the markets, you are getting the kind of info that they don’t print in the WSJ. The kind that gave Martha a five month, federally funded hiatus.
Comment by SJS © ®  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
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I wish western liberals would be as outraged over this story as they are with koran desecration.
…………………………………………………………..
Massive Arrests of Foreign Christians in Saudi Arabia
Thursday, June 2, 2005
By BosNewsLife News Center
RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA (BosNewsLife)– Saudi Arabia’s security forces have arrested at least almost 100 foreign Christians, including Indians, in an apparent violent crackdown against non Muslims, BosNewsLife learned Wednesday, June 1.
“This has been going on since yesterday [Tuesday May 31]”, one senior Christian official with close knowledge about the situation told BosNewsLife on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. “In phone calls to me, we know of at least 80 to 90 arrests being made by the regular police and the religious police…The arrests are continuing [and] so far, [they] are taking place only in the capital, Riyadh, but we don’t know the final extent of this,â€? the source added.
Saudi officials were not immediately available for comment. “Apparently, the arrests are being made for religious reasons, objecting to their prayer, possession of Bibles and proselytizing,� the source said. “[However] police have not given any specific [reasons and] simply show up at any time, day or night, with as many as 26 officers and personnel bursting into apartments to confiscate or destroy computers, cell phones, files, books [and] Bibles. [They also] beat up people in front of spouses and children [before they] haul them away,� he added.
News of the latest arrests came shortly after Vijay Kumar, a 45-year-old Indian national from the state of Tamil Nadu, and seven other Protestant leaders were reportedly arrested by Saudi Arabia’s religious police. AsiaNews, a Catholic oriented news website, quoted sources in the country as saying that Kumar was taken into custody May 28. His arrest followed the detention of another Indian, Samkutty Varghese, an Evangelical Christian who had entered the country on January 26 on a tourist visa, AsiaNews said.
PRAYER GROUP
Varghese was allegedly detained as he waited for his visa to be extended, on March 9, when police forces discovered his Hindi Bible and some phone numbers, which were apparently used to carry out other arrests. On May 28, the religious police reportedly raided a private prayer gathering of Protestant groups in the Batha area of the Saudi capital.
Later that day police arrived at Kumar’s home where they interrogated him and his wife Christy Vijay Kumar till 3 am local time and then took away all religious material found in the residence as well as the family computers and Kumar himself, added AsiaNews citing sources in the region. Kumar’s wife works as a catechist and normally teaches 40 Christian children from India and Muscat in her home. He has been in Saudi Arabia since 1994 working for Al Salam Aircraft, but his home has reportedly been a gathering place for Christians since 2002.
“These arrests and beatings seem to be part of a well-orchestrated plan to persecute Christians in Saudi Arabia, whether Indian or other expatriates. The Indian expatriates do not have any redress through the Indian embassy in Riyadh, which is entirely manned by Muslims,� said the BosNewsLife source, who appealed for prayers and international help from the United States and other governments. Earlier in April, Saudi police forces detained 40 Pakistani Christians for worshipping at home, several reports said.
The Saudi Institute, an independent Washington based think tank with close contacts to dissidents in Saudi Arabia, has accused the royal family and other authorities of selective anger over recent reports that a copy of the Koran had been desecrated by American military personnel at the detention facility of Guantanomo Bay, Cuba.
“DESECRATING BIBLES�
“The Saudi Embassy in Washington articulated “great concern� and urged Washington to conduct a quick investigation. The Saudi government has also recommended to the American government to install “deterring measures� so that an incident such as this would not be repeated. [But[ the Saudi government would not comment on [its] policy of desecrating Bibles that had been seized from foreign nationals,� said Saudi Institute Staff Writer Zachary Liben.
“The Saudi government burns and desecrates hundreds of Bibles its security forces confiscate after raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately or at border crossings,� Liben added in a statement monitored by BosNewsLife News Center. “Hundreds of Christian worshipers are arrested every year by Saudi police in raids on their private gatherings. Bibles, crosses and printed materials are confiscated and later burnt or dumped into trash. Although considered as holy in Islam and mentioned in the Koran dozens of times, the Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia, and is confiscated and destroyed by government officials.� Liben said.
Western diplomats have complained that although Saudi Arabia’s economy heavily depends on foreigners, expatriates are not allowed to profess their faith as observing any religion other than Islam is illegal in the Kingdom. There are around six million foreigners in the conservative kingdom, which has a population of 23 million, including many Christians from Europe, North America, Asia and other Arab states. In a rare official rebuke of a close ally last year, Washington recently accused Saudi Arabia of severe violations of religious freedom. (With BosNewsLife Research, BosNewsLife News Center and reports from Saudi Arabia and the United States)
Comment by Laur
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Z.
Comment by Zwack  June 6th, 2005 @ 2:48 pm
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Actually I’m a bit surprised no one from the administration has thought to make this case: telling folks they better accept what Bush decides or things’ll get really bad sounds like standard administration rhetoric. Cheney would be the best one to deliver the message - the sight of his growling mug is enough to put anyone off.
Comment by truth4achange  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:07 pm
#
2 books to read this summer (if you already haven’t)
It Can’t Happen Here
by Sinclair Lewis
The Plot Against America: A Novel
by Philip Roth
Both of these books made me see that we are indeed “frogs in the water pot�
Comment by fasteddie  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:18 pm
#
If you read the WSJ, at one time, like all the others, a decent paper, you are crazy. If you are tracking the markets, you are using the internets. If you are making money in the markets, you are getting the kind of info that they don’t print in the WSJ. The kind that gave Martha a five month, federally funded hiatus.
Comment by SJS © ®  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
#
I wish western liberals would be as outraged over this story as they are with koran desecration.
…………………………………………………………..
Massive Arrests of Foreign Christians in Saudi Arabia
Thursday, June 2, 2005
By BosNewsLife News Center
RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA (BosNewsLife)– Saudi Arabia’s security forces have arrested at least almost 100 foreign Christians, including Indians, in an apparent violent crackdown against non Muslims, BosNewsLife learned Wednesday, June 1.
“This has been going on since yesterday [Tuesday May 31]”, one senior Christian official with close knowledge about the situation told BosNewsLife on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. “In phone calls to me, we know of at least 80 to 90 arrests being made by the regular police and the religious police…The arrests are continuing [and] so far, [they] are taking place only in the capital, Riyadh, but we don’t know the final extent of this,â€? the source added.
Saudi officials were not immediately available for comment. “Apparently, the arrests are being made for religious reasons, objecting to their prayer, possession of Bibles and proselytizing,� the source said. “[However] police have not given any specific [reasons and] simply show up at any time, day or night, with as many as 26 officers and personnel bursting into apartments to confiscate or destroy computers, cell phones, files, books [and] Bibles. [They also] beat up people in front of spouses and children [before they] haul them away,� he added.
News of the latest arrests came shortly after Vijay Kumar, a 45-year-old Indian national from the state of Tamil Nadu, and seven other Protestant leaders were reportedly arrested by Saudi Arabia’s religious police. AsiaNews, a Catholic oriented news website, quoted sources in the country as saying that Kumar was taken into custody May 28. His arrest followed the detention of another Indian, Samkutty Varghese, an Evangelical Christian who had entered the country on January 26 on a tourist visa, AsiaNews said.
PRAYER GROUP
Varghese was allegedly detained as he waited for his visa to be extended, on March 9, when police forces discovered his Hindi Bible and some phone numbers, which were apparently used to carry out other arrests. On May 28, the religious police reportedly raided a private prayer gathering of Protestant groups in the Batha area of the Saudi capital.
Later that day police arrived at Kumar’s home where they interrogated him and his wife Christy Vijay Kumar till 3 am local time and then took away all religious material found in the residence as well as the family computers and Kumar himself, added AsiaNews citing sources in the region. Kumar’s wife works as a catechist and normally teaches 40 Christian children from India and Muscat in her home. He has been in Saudi Arabia since 1994 working for Al Salam Aircraft, but his home has reportedly been a gathering place for Christians since 2002.
“These arrests and beatings seem to be part of a well-orchestrated plan to persecute Christians in Saudi Arabia, whether Indian or other expatriates. The Indian expatriates do not have any redress through the Indian embassy in Riyadh, which is entirely manned by Muslims,� said the BosNewsLife source, who appealed for prayers and international help from the United States and other governments. Earlier in April, Saudi police forces detained 40 Pakistani Christians for worshipping at home, several reports said.
The Saudi Institute, an independent Washington based think tank with close contacts to dissidents in Saudi Arabia, has accused the royal family and other authorities of selective anger over recent reports that a copy of the Koran had been desecrated by American military personnel at the detention facility of Guantanomo Bay, Cuba.
“DESECRATING BIBLES�
“The Saudi Embassy in Washington articulated “great concern� and urged Washington to conduct a quick investigation. The Saudi government has also recommended to the American government to install “deterring measures� so that an incident such as this would not be repeated. [But[ the Saudi government would not comment on [its] policy of desecrating Bibles that had been seized from foreign nationals,� said Saudi Institute Staff Writer Zachary Liben.
“The Saudi government burns and desecrates hundreds of Bibles its security forces confiscate after raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately or at border crossings,� Liben added in a statement monitored by BosNewsLife News Center. “Hundreds of Christian worshipers are arrested every year by Saudi police in raids on their private gatherings. Bibles, crosses and printed materials are confiscated and later burnt or dumped into trash. Although considered as holy in Islam and mentioned in the Koran dozens of times, the Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia, and is confiscated and destroyed by government officials.� Liben said.
Western diplomats have complained that although Saudi Arabia’s economy heavily depends on foreigners, expatriates are not allowed to profess their faith as observing any religion other than Islam is illegal in the Kingdom. There are around six million foreigners in the conservative kingdom, which has a population of 23 million, including many Christians from Europe, North America, Asia and other Arab states. In a rare official rebuke of a close ally last year, Washington recently accused Saudi Arabia of severe violations of religious freedom. (With BosNewsLife Research, BosNewsLife News Center and reports from Saudi Arabia and the United States)
Comment by Laur
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Z.
Comment by Zwack  June 6th, 2005 @ 2:48 pm
#
Actually I’m a bit surprised no one from the administration has thought to make this case: telling folks they better accept what Bush decides or things’ll get really bad sounds like standard administration rhetoric. Cheney would be the best one to deliver the message - the sight of his growling mug is enough to put anyone off.
Comment by truth4achange  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:07 pm
#
2 books to read this summer (if you already haven’t)
It Can’t Happen Here
by Sinclair Lewis
The Plot Against America: A Novel
by Philip Roth
Both of these books made me see that we are indeed “frogs in the water pot�
Comment by fasteddie  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:18 pm
#
If you read the WSJ, at one time, like all the others, a decent paper, you are crazy. If you are tracking the markets, you are using the internets. If you are making money in the markets, you are getting the kind of info that they don’t print in the WSJ. The kind that gave Martha a five month, federally funded hiatus.
Comment by SJS © ®  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
#
I wish western liberals would be as outraged over this story as they are with koran desecration.
…………………………………………………………..
Massive Arrests of Foreign Christians in Saudi Arabia
Thursday, June 2, 2005
By BosNewsLife News Center
RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA (BosNewsLife)– Saudi Arabia’s security forces have arrested at least almost 100 foreign Christians, including Indians, in an apparent violent crackdown against non Muslims, BosNewsLife learned Wednesday, June 1.
“This has been going on since yesterday [Tuesday May 31]”, one senior Christian official with close knowledge about the situation told BosNewsLife on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. “In phone calls to me, we know of at least 80 to 90 arrests being made by the regular police and the religious police…The arrests are continuing [and] so far, [they] are taking place only in the capital, Riyadh, but we don’t know the final extent of this,â€? the source added.
Saudi officials were not immediately available for comment. “Apparently, the arrests are being made for religious reasons, objecting to their prayer, possession of Bibles and proselytizing,� the source said. “[However] police have not given any specific [reasons and] simply show up at any time, day or night, with as many as 26 officers and personnel bursting into apartments to confiscate or destroy computers, cell phones, files, books [and] Bibles. [They also] beat up people in front of spouses and children [before they] haul them away,� he added.
News of the latest arrests came shortly after Vijay Kumar, a 45-year-old Indian national from the state of Tamil Nadu, and seven other Protestant leaders were reportedly arrested by Saudi Arabia’s religious police. AsiaNews, a Catholic oriented news website, quoted sources in the country as saying that Kumar was taken into custody May 28. His arrest followed the detention of another Indian, Samkutty Varghese, an Evangelical Christian who had entered the country on January 26 on a tourist visa, AsiaNews said.
PRAYER GROUP
Varghese was allegedly detained as he waited for his visa to be extended, on March 9, when police forces discovered his Hindi Bible and some phone numbers, which were apparently used to carry out other arrests. On May 28, the religious police reportedly raided a private prayer gathering of Protestant groups in the Batha area of the Saudi capital.
Later that day police arrived at Kumar’s home where they interrogated him and his wife Christy Vijay Kumar till 3 am local time and then took away all religious material found in the residence as well as the family computers and Kumar himself, added AsiaNews citing sources in the region. Kumar’s wife works as a catechist and normally teaches 40 Christian children from India and Muscat in her home. He has been in Saudi Arabia since 1994 working for Al Salam Aircraft, but his home has reportedly been a gathering place for Christians since 2002.
“These arrests and beatings seem to be part of a well-orchestrated plan to persecute Christians in Saudi Arabia, whether Indian or other expatriates. The Indian expatriates do not have any redress through the Indian embassy in Riyadh, which is entirely manned by Muslims,� said the BosNewsLife source, who appealed for prayers and international help from the United States and other governments. Earlier in April, Saudi police forces detained 40 Pakistani Christians for worshipping at home, several reports said.
The Saudi Institute, an independent Washington based think tank with close contacts to dissidents in Saudi Arabia, has accused the royal family and other authorities of selective anger over recent reports that a copy of the Koran had been desecrated by American military personnel at the detention facility of Guantanomo Bay, Cuba.
“DESECRATING BIBLES�
“The Saudi Embassy in Washington articulated “great concern� and urged Washington to conduct a quick investigation. The Saudi government has also recommended to the American government to install “deterring measures� so that an incident such as this would not be repeated. [But[ the Saudi government would not comment on [its] policy of desecrating Bibles that had been seized from foreign nationals,� said Saudi Institute Staff Writer Zachary Liben.
“The Saudi government burns and desecrates hundreds of Bibles its security forces confiscate after raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately or at border crossings,� Liben added in a statement monitored by BosNewsLife News Center. “Hundreds of Christian worshipers are arrested every year by Saudi police in raids on their private gatherings. Bibles, crosses and printed materials are confiscated and later burnt or dumped into trash. Although considered as holy in Islam and mentioned in the Koran dozens of times, the Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia, and is confiscated and destroyed by government officials.� Liben said.
Western diplomats have complained that although Saudi Arabia’s economy heavily depends on foreigners, expatriates are not allowed to profess their faith as observing any religion other than Islam is illegal in the Kingdom. There are around six million foreigners in the conservative kingdom, which has a population of 23 million, including many Christians from Europe, North America, Asia and other Arab states. In a rare official rebuke of a close ally last year, Washington recently accused Saudi Arabia of severe violations of religious freedom. (With BosNewsLife Research, BosNewsLife News Center and reports from Saudi Arabia and the United States)
Comment by Laur
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Z.
Comment by Zwack  June 6th, 2005 @ 2:48 pm
#
Actually I’m a bit surprised no one from the administration has thought to make this case: telling folks they better accept what Bush decides or things’ll get really bad sounds like standard administration rhetoric. Cheney would be the best one to deliver the message - the sight of his growling mug is enough to put anyone off.
Comment by truth4achange  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:07 pm
#
2 books to read this summer (if you already haven’t)
It Can’t Happen Here
by Sinclair Lewis
The Plot Against America: A Novel
by Philip Roth
Both of these books made me see that we are indeed “frogs in the water pot�
Comment by fasteddie  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:18 pm
#
If you read the WSJ, at one time, like all the others, a decent paper, you are crazy. If you are tracking the markets, you are using the internets. If you are making money in the markets, you are getting the kind of info that they don’t print in the WSJ. The kind that gave Martha a five month, federally funded hiatus.
Comment by SJS © ®  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
#
I wish western liberals would be as outraged over this story as they are with koran desecration.
…………………………………………………………..
Massive Arrests of Foreign Christians in Saudi Arabia
Thursday, June 2, 2005
By BosNewsLife News Center
RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA (BosNewsLife)– Saudi Arabia’s security forces have arrested at least almost 100 foreign Christians, including Indians, in an apparent violent crackdown against non Muslims, BosNewsLife learned Wednesday, June 1.
“This has been going on since yesterday [Tuesday May 31]”, one senior Christian official with close knowledge about the situation told BosNewsLife on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. “In phone calls to me, we know of at least 80 to 90 arrests being made by the regular police and the religious police…The arrests are continuing [and] so far, [they] are taking place only in the capital, Riyadh, but we don’t know the final extent of this,â€? the source added.
Saudi officials were not immediately available for comment. “Apparently, the arrests are being made for religious reasons, objecting to their prayer, possession of Bibles and proselytizing,� the source said. “[However] police have not given any specific [reasons and] simply show up at any time, day or night, with as many as 26 officers and personnel bursting into apartments to confiscate or destroy computers, cell phones, files, books [and] Bibles. [They also] beat up people in front of spouses and children [before they] haul them away,� he added.
News of the latest arrests came shortly after Vijay Kumar, a 45-year-old Indian national from the state of Tamil Nadu, and seven other Protestant leaders were reportedly arrested by Saudi Arabia’s religious police. AsiaNews, a Catholic oriented news website, quoted sources in the country as saying that Kumar was taken into custody May 28. His arrest followed the detention of another Indian, Samkutty Varghese, an Evangelical Christian who had entered the country on January 26 on a tourist visa, AsiaNews said.
PRAYER GROUP
Varghese was allegedly detained as he waited for his visa to be extended, on March 9, when police forces discovered his Hindi Bible and some phone numbers, which were apparently used to carry out other arrests. On May 28, the religious police reportedly raided a private prayer gathering of Protestant groups in the Batha area of the Saudi capital.
Later that day police arrived at Kumar’s home where they interrogated him and his wife Christy Vijay Kumar till 3 am local time and then took away all religious material found in the residence as well as the family computers and Kumar himself, added AsiaNews citing sources in the region. Kumar’s wife works as a catechist and normally teaches 40 Christian children from India and Muscat in her home. He has been in Saudi Arabia since 1994 working for Al Salam Aircraft, but his home has reportedly been a gathering place for Christians since 2002.
“These arrests and beatings seem to be part of a well-orchestrated plan to persecute Christians in Saudi Arabia, whether Indian or other expatriates. The Indian expatriates do not have any redress through the Indian embassy in Riyadh, which is entirely manned by Muslims,� said the BosNewsLife source, who appealed for prayers and international help from the United States and other governments. Earlier in April, Saudi police forces detained 40 Pakistani Christians for worshipping at home, several reports said.
The Saudi Institute, an independent Washington based think tank with close contacts to dissidents in Saudi Arabia, has accused the royal family and other authorities of selective anger over recent reports that a copy of the Koran had been desecrated by American military personnel at the detention facility of Guantanomo Bay, Cuba.
“DESECRATING BIBLES�
“The Saudi Embassy in Washington articulated “great concern� and urged Washington to conduct a quick investigation. The Saudi government has also recommended to the American government to install “deterring measures� so that an incident such as this would not be repeated. [But[ the Saudi government would not comment on [its] policy of desecrating Bibles that had been seized from foreign nationals,� said Saudi Institute Staff Writer Zachary Liben.
“The Saudi government burns and desecrates hundreds of Bibles its security forces confiscate after raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately or at border crossings,� Liben added in a statement monitored by BosNewsLife News Center. “Hundreds of Christian worshipers are arrested every year by Saudi police in raids on their private gatherings. Bibles, crosses and printed materials are confiscated and later burnt or dumped into trash. Although considered as holy in Islam and mentioned in the Koran dozens of times, the Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia, and is confiscated and destroyed by government officials.� Liben said.
Western diplomats have complained that although Saudi Arabia’s economy heavily depends on foreigners, expatriates are not allowed to profess their faith as observing any religion other than Islam is illegal in the Kingdom. There are around six million foreigners in the conservative kingdom, which has a population of 23 million, including many Christians from Europe, North America, Asia and other Arab states. In a rare official rebuke of a close ally last year, Washington recently accused Saudi Arabia of severe violations of religious freedom. (With BosNewsLife Research, BosNewsLife News Center and reports from Saudi Arabia and the United States)
Comment by Laur
That’s all for now till I think of more.
June 6th, 2005 at 6:59 pmWait I thought of something else.
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Comment by Zwack  June 6th, 2005 @ 2:48 pm
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Actually I’m a bit surprised no one from the administration has thought to make this case: telling folks they better accept what Bush decides or things’ll get really bad sounds like standard administration rhetoric. Cheney would be the best one to deliver the message - the sight of his growling mug is enough to put anyone off.
Comment by truth4achange  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:07 pm
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2 books to read this summer (if you already haven’t)
It Can’t Happen Here
by Sinclair Lewis
The Plot Against America: A Novel
by Philip Roth
Both of these books made me see that we are indeed “frogs in the water pot�
Comment by fasteddie  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:18 pm
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If you read the WSJ, at one time, like all the others, a decent paper, you are crazy. If you are tracking the markets, you are using the internets. If you are making money in the markets, you are getting the kind of info that they don’t print in the WSJ. The kind that gave Martha a five month, federally funded hiatus.
Comment by SJS © ®  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
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I wish western liberals would be as outraged over this story as they are with koran desecration.
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Massive Arrests of Foreign Christians in Saudi Arabia
Thursday, June 2, 2005
By BosNewsLife News Center
RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA (BosNewsLife)– Saudi Arabia’s security forces have arrested at least almost 100 foreign Christians, including Indians, in an apparent violent crackdown against non Muslims, BosNewsLife learned Wednesday, June 1.
“This has been going on since yesterday [Tuesday May 31]”, one senior Christian official with close knowledge about the situation told BosNewsLife on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. “In phone calls to me, we know of at least 80 to 90 arrests being made by the regular police and the religious police…The arrests are continuing [and] so far, [they] are taking place only in the capital, Riyadh, but we don’t know the final extent of this,â€? the source added.
Saudi officials were not immediately available for comment. “Apparently, the arrests are being made for religious reasons, objecting to their prayer, possession of Bibles and proselytizing,� the source said. “[However] police have not given any specific [reasons and] simply show up at any time, day or night, with as many as 26 officers and personnel bursting into apartments to confiscate or destroy computers, cell phones, files, books [and] Bibles. [They also] beat up people in front of spouses and children [before they] haul them away,� he added.
News of the latest arrests came shortly after Vijay Kumar, a 45-year-old Indian national from the state of Tamil Nadu, and seven other Protestant leaders were reportedly arrested by Saudi Arabia’s religious police. AsiaNews, a Catholic oriented news website, quoted sources in the country as saying that Kumar was taken into custody May 28. His arrest followed the detention of another Indian, Samkutty Varghese, an Evangelical Christian who had entered the country on January 26 on a tourist visa, AsiaNews said.
PRAYER GROUP
Varghese was allegedly detained as he waited for his visa to be extended, on March 9, when police forces discovered his Hindi Bible and some phone numbers, which were apparently used to carry out other arrests. On May 28, the religious police reportedly raided a private prayer gathering of Protestant groups in the Batha area of the Saudi capital.
Later that day police arrived at Kumar’s home where they interrogated him and his wife Christy Vijay Kumar till 3 am local time and then took away all religious material found in the residence as well as the family computers and Kumar himself, added AsiaNews citing sources in the region. Kumar’s wife works as a catechist and normally teaches 40 Christian children from India and Muscat in her home. He has been in Saudi Arabia since 1994 working for Al Salam Aircraft, but his home has reportedly been a gathering place for Christians since 2002.
“These arrests and beatings seem to be part of a well-orchestrated plan to persecute Christians in Saudi Arabia, whether Indian or other expatriates. The Indian expatriates do not have any redress through the Indian embassy in Riyadh, which is entirely manned by Muslims,� said the BosNewsLife source, who appealed for prayers and international help from the United States and other governments. Earlier in April, Saudi police forces detained 40 Pakistani Christians for worshipping at home, several reports said.
The Saudi Institute, an independent Washington based think tank with close contacts to dissidents in Saudi Arabia, has accused the royal family and other authorities of selective anger over recent reports that a copy of the Koran had been desecrated by American military personnel at the detention facility of Guantanomo Bay, Cuba.
“DESECRATING BIBLES�
“The Saudi Embassy in Washington articulated “great concern� and urged Washington to conduct a quick investigation. The Saudi government has also recommended to the American government to install “deterring measures� so that an incident such as this would not be repeated. [But[ the Saudi government would not comment on [its] policy of desecrating Bibles that had been seized from foreign nationals,� said Saudi Institute Staff Writer Zachary Liben.
“The Saudi government burns and desecrates hundreds of Bibles its security forces confiscate after raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately or at border crossings,� Liben added in a statement monitored by BosNewsLife News Center. “Hundreds of Christian worshipers are arrested every year by Saudi police in raids on their private gatherings. Bibles, crosses and printed materials are confiscated and later burnt or dumped into trash. Although considered as holy in Islam and mentioned in the Koran dozens of times, the Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia, and is confiscated and destroyed by government officials.� Liben said.
Western diplomats have complained that although Saudi Arabia’s economy heavily depends on foreigners, expatriates are not allowed to profess their faith as observing any religion other than Islam is illegal in the Kingdom. There are around six million foreigners in the conservative kingdom, which has a population of 23 million, including many Christians from Europe, North America, Asia and other Arab states. In a rare official rebuke of a close ally last year, Washington recently accused Saudi Arabia of severe violations of religious freedom. (With BosNewsLife Research, BosNewsLife News Center and reports from Saudi Arabia and the United States)
Comment by Laur#
Z.
Comment by Zwack  June 6th, 2005 @ 2:48 pm
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Actually I’m a bit surprised no one from the administration has thought to make this case: telling folks they better accept what Bush decides or things’ll get really bad sounds like standard administration rhetoric. Cheney would be the best one to deliver the message - the sight of his growling mug is enough to put anyone off.
Comment by truth4achange  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:07 pm
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2 books to read this summer (if you already haven’t)
It Can’t Happen Here
by Sinclair Lewis
The Plot Against America: A Novel
by Philip Roth
Both of these books made me see that we are indeed “frogs in the water pot�
Comment by fasteddie  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:18 pm
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If you read the WSJ, at one time, like all the others, a decent paper, you are crazy. If you are tracking the markets, you are using the internets. If you are making money in the markets, you are getting the kind of info that they don’t print in the WSJ. The kind that gave Martha a five month, federally funded hiatus.
Comment by SJS © ®  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
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I wish western liberals would be as outraged over this story as they are with koran desecration.
…………………………………………………………..
Massive Arrests of Foreign Christians in Saudi Arabia
Thursday, June 2, 2005
By BosNewsLife News Center
RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA (BosNewsLife)– Saudi Arabia’s security forces have arrested at least almost 100 foreign Christians, including Indians, in an apparent violent crackdown against non Muslims, BosNewsLife learned Wednesday, June 1.
“This has been going on since yesterday [Tuesday May 31]”, one senior Christian official with close knowledge about the situation told BosNewsLife on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. “In phone calls to me, we know of at least 80 to 90 arrests being made by the regular police and the religious police…The arrests are continuing [and] so far, [they] are taking place only in the capital, Riyadh, but we don’t know the final extent of this,â€? the source added.
Saudi officials were not immediately available for comment. “Apparently, the arrests are being made for religious reasons, objecting to their prayer, possession of Bibles and proselytizing,� the source said. “[However] police have not given any specific [reasons and] simply show up at any time, day or night, with as many as 26 officers and personnel bursting into apartments to confiscate or destroy computers, cell phones, files, books [and] Bibles. [They also] beat up people in front of spouses and children [before they] haul them away,� he added.
News of the latest arrests came shortly after Vijay Kumar, a 45-year-old Indian national from the state of Tamil Nadu, and seven other Protestant leaders were reportedly arrested by Saudi Arabia’s religious police. AsiaNews, a Catholic oriented news website, quoted sources in the country as saying that Kumar was taken into custody May 28. His arrest followed the detention of another Indian, Samkutty Varghese, an Evangelical Christian who had entered the country on January 26 on a tourist visa, AsiaNews said.
PRAYER GROUP
Varghese was allegedly detained as he waited for his visa to be extended, on March 9, when police forces discovered his Hindi Bible and some phone numbers, which were apparently used to carry out other arrests. On May 28, the religious police reportedly raided a private prayer gathering of Protestant groups in the Batha area of the Saudi capital.
Later that day police arrived at Kumar’s home where they interrogated him and his wife Christy Vijay Kumar till 3 am local time and then took away all religious material found in the residence as well as the family computers and Kumar himself, added AsiaNews citing sources in the region. Kumar’s wife works as a catechist and normally teaches 40 Christian children from India and Muscat in her home. He has been in Saudi Arabia since 1994 working for Al Salam Aircraft, but his home has reportedly been a gathering place for Christians since 2002.
“These arrests and beatings seem to be part of a well-orchestrated plan to persecute Christians in Saudi Arabia, whether Indian or other expatriates. The Indian expatriates do not have any redress through the Indian embassy in Riyadh, which is entirely manned by Muslims,� said the BosNewsLife source, who appealed for prayers and international help from the United States and other governments. Earlier in April, Saudi police forces detained 40 Pakistani Christians for worshipping at home, several reports said.
The Saudi Institute, an independent Washington based think tank with close contacts to dissidents in Saudi Arabia, has accused the royal family and other authorities of selective anger over recent reports that a copy of the Koran had been desecrated by American military personnel at the detention facility of Guantanomo Bay, Cuba.
“DESECRATING BIBLES�
“The Saudi Embassy in Washington articulated “great concern� and urged Washington to conduct a quick investigation. The Saudi government has also recommended to the American government to install “deterring measures� so that an incident such as this would not be repeated. [But[ the Saudi government would not comment on [its] policy of desecrating Bibles that had been seized from foreign nationals,� said Saudi Institute Staff Writer Zachary Liben.
“The Saudi government burns and desecrates hundreds of Bibles its security forces confiscate after raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately or at border crossings,� Liben added in a statement monitored by BosNewsLife News Center. “Hundreds of Christian worshipers are arrested every year by Saudi police in raids on their private gatherings. Bibles, crosses and printed materials are confiscated and later burnt or dumped into trash. Although considered as holy in Islam and mentioned in the Koran dozens of times, the Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia, and is confiscated and destroyed by government officials.� Liben said.
Western diplomats have complained that although Saudi Arabia’s economy heavily depends on foreigners, expatriates are not allowed to profess their faith as observing any religion other than Islam is illegal in the Kingdom. There are around six million foreigners in the conservative kingdom, which has a population of 23 million, including many Christians from Europe, North America, Asia and other Arab states. In a rare official rebuke of a close ally last year, Washington recently accused Saudi Arabia of severe violations of religious freedom. (With BosNewsLife Research, BosNewsLife News Center and reports from Saudi Arabia and the United States)
Comment by Laur
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Z.
Comment by Zwack  June 6th, 2005 @ 2:48 pm
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Actually I’m a bit surprised no one from the administration has thought to make this case: telling folks they better accept what Bush decides or things’ll get really bad sounds like standard administration rhetoric. Cheney would be the best one to deliver the message - the sight of his growling mug is enough to put anyone off.
Comment by truth4achange  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:07 pm
#
2 books to read this summer (if you already haven’t)
It Can’t Happen Here
by Sinclair Lewis
The Plot Against America: A Novel
by Philip Roth
Both of these books made me see that we are indeed “frogs in the water pot�
Comment by fasteddie  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:18 pm
#
If you read the WSJ, at one time, like all the others, a decent paper, you are crazy. If you are tracking the markets, you are using the internets. If you are making money in the markets, you are getting the kind of info that they don’t print in the WSJ. The kind that gave Martha a five month, federally funded hiatus.
Comment by SJS © ®  June 6th, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
#
I wish western liberals would be as outraged over this story as they are with koran desecration.
…………………………………………………………..
Massive Arrests of Foreign Christians in Saudi Arabia
Thursday, June 2, 2005
By BosNewsLife News Center
RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA (BosNewsLife)– Saudi Arabia’s security forces have arrested at least almost 100 foreign Christians, including Indians, in an apparent violent crackdown against non Muslims, BosNewsLife learned Wednesday, June 1.
“This has been going on since yesterday [Tuesday May 31]”, one senior Christian official with close knowledge about the situation told BosNewsLife on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. “In phone calls to me, we know of at least 80 to 90 arrests being made by the regular police and the religious police…The arrests are continuing [and] so far, [they] are taking place only in the capital, Riyadh, but we don’t know the final extent of this,â€? the source added.
Saudi officials were not immediately available for comment. “Apparently, the arrests are being made for religious reasons, objecting to their prayer, possession of Bibles and proselytizing,� the source said. “[However] police have not given any specific [reasons and] simply show up at any time, day or night, with as many as 26 officers and personnel bursting into apartments to confiscate or destroy computers, cell phones, files, books [and] Bibles. [They also] beat up people in front of spouses and children [before they] haul them away,� he added.
News of the latest arrests came shortly after Vijay Kumar, a 45-year-old Indian national from the state of Tamil Nadu, and seven other Protestant leaders were reportedly arrested by Saudi Arabia’s religious police. AsiaNews, a Catholic oriented news website, quoted sources in the country as saying that Kumar was taken into custody May 28. His arrest followed the detention of another Indian, Samkutty Varghese, an Evangelical Christian who had entered the country on January 26 on a tourist visa, AsiaNews said.
PRAYER GROUP
Varghese was allegedly detained as he waited for his visa to be extended, on March 9, when police forces discovered his Hindi Bible and some phone numbers, which were apparently used to carry out other arrests. On May 28, the religious police reportedly raided a private prayer gathering of Protestant groups in the Batha area of the Saudi capital.
Later that day police arrived at Kumar’s home where they interrogated him and his wife Christy Vijay Kumar till 3 am local time and then took away all religious material found in the residence as well as the family computers and Kumar himself, added AsiaNews citing sources in the region. Kumar’s wife works as a catechist and normally teaches 40 Christian children from India and Muscat in her home. He has been in Saudi Arabia since 1994 working for Al Salam Aircraft, but his home has reportedly been a gathering place for Christians since 2002.
“These arrests and beatings seem to be part of a well-orchestrated plan to persecute Christians in Saudi Arabia, whether Indian or other expatriates. The Indian expatriates do not have any redress through the Indian embassy in Riyadh, which is entirely manned by Muslims,� said the BosNewsLife source, who appealed for prayers and international help from the United States and other governments. Earlier in April, Saudi police forces detained 40 Pakistani Christians for worshipping at home, several reports said.
The Saudi Institute, an independent Washington based think tank with close contacts to dissidents in Saudi Arabia, has accused the royal family and other authorities of selective anger over recent reports that a copy of the Koran had been desecrated by American military personnel at the detention facility of Guantanomo Bay, Cuba.
“DESECRATING BIBLES�
“The Saudi Embassy in Washington articulated “great concern� and urged Washington to conduct a quick investigation. The Saudi government has also recommended to the American government to install “deterring measures� so that an incident such as this would not be repeated. [But[ the Saudi government would not comment on [its] policy of desecrating Bibles that had been seized from foreign nationals,� said Saudi Institute Staff Writer Zachary Liben.
“The Saudi government burns and desecrates hundreds of Bibles its security forces confiscate after raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately or at border crossings,� Liben added in a statement monitored by BosNewsLife News Center. “Hundreds of Christian worshipers are arrested every year by Saudi police in raids on their private gatherings. Bibles, crosses and printed materials are confiscated and later burnt or dumped into trash. Although considered as holy in Islam and mentioned in the Koran dozens of times, the Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia, and is confiscated and destroyed by government officials.� Liben said.
Western diplomats have complained that although Saudi Arabia’s economy heavily depends on foreigners, expatriates are not allowed to profess their faith as observing any religion other than Islam is illegal in the Kingdom. There are around six million foreigners in the conservative kingdom, which has a population of 23 million, including many Christians from Europe, North America, Asia and other Arab states. In a rare official rebuke of a close ally last year, Washington recently accused Saudi Arabia of severe violations of religious freedom. (With BosNewsLife Research, BosNewsLife News Center and reports from Saudi Arabia and the United States)
Comment by Laur
June 6th, 2005 at 7:00 pmWhat?!?
June 6th, 2005 at 7:34 pmIt’s time for the web master to step in and block these nitwits.
June 6th, 2005 at 8:28 pmvvfvvfvvfvvfvvfvvvfhave ur self a very little christmas good bye
June 6th, 2005 at 8:40 pmI think they have capitulated, Jay. And I don’t think they realize that there IPs can be blocked as easily as they can. The folks at Think Progress are pretty mellow about it, as are most progressive and liberal sites.
June 6th, 2005 at 9:09 pmYeah but once they start to get destructive and blow out entire threads….it’s got to be stopped or what’s the point?
June 6th, 2005 at 9:34 pmWhy are the freeper trolls upset about the oppressive Saudi regime abusing people who share their religion and desecrating their holy book? They’re just helping democracy on the march like our Dear Leader.
June 6th, 2005 at 10:05 pmSorry, troll, but it’s hard to find the moral high ground when human garbage like you have dragged our nation into the gutter.
I agree, Jay. Perhaps they will tend to it in the morning. Perhaps they already have. Eventually they will tire of it.
June 6th, 2005 at 10:20 pmWhy is it the responsibility of the webmaster of thinkprogress.org to stop nitwits like Tom Delay or Jack Ambramoff?
Thinkprogress is just the messenger.
Or, is Thinkprogress conducting a mean-spirited smear campaign against Tom Delay and are succeeding?
I don’t think so. Seems as though the evidence suggests that Tom Delay’s actions need some scrutiny.
June 7th, 2005 at 7:34 amSaipan’s Labor Laws
June 7th, 2005 at 8:01 amOld Tom’s special relationship Jack Abramoff’s money seems to grow by the day.
Ron: I think the nitwits they are referring to are the people who are posting crap in the comments. See comments 2, 3, and 6 for this post.
June 7th, 2005 at 10:00 amActually I think the webmaster on this site is really balanced. They don’t just off you for saying political beliefs that are not progressive. But the above poster definitely needs to be shown the door.
This thread is great. It shows Tom DeLay and the current Republican party in it’s deepest moral value. That is “Give Me The Money!”. Yea, that’s right. They just want the money and then they will say anything to make it sound like they are doing conservatives proud.
Hey conservatives, You want to pull a Democratic Party move like they did in the 90’s? Just keep letting your greedy leaders speak for you to America. Me, I’m gonna be so happy to see Democrats in the majority again. Now if we can only get the MSM to publish this stuff instead of the republican talking points they’ve been parroting for the last 6 years.
June 7th, 2005 at 10:22 amYes, I know. Comments 2, 3 and 6 pale in comparison to what should be done about Tom DeLay and the modern day so-called Republicans.
I’ve had it with Republicans. Enough of their nonsense. Criticizing a few hundred words of nonsense on a screen is straining on a gnat.
June 7th, 2005 at 10:38 amYup, the respect these folks have for the ‘culture of life’ is amazing: http://www.hairytruth.blogspot.com
June 7th, 2005 at 10:39 amKindness,
Have you joined Moveon.org?
We just sent petitions with almost a half of a million signatures to Republicans who expect another term in 06.
The petition demands they fire Delay as their leader.
The pressure is working.
You don’t have to feel helpless, we are winning against the GOP.
Just an additional tidbit: My niece is majoring in Political Science because she wants to take the GOP out of the majority. It is their constant criminal behavior that prompted her to get involved in politics.
June 7th, 2005 at 12:08 pmShe’s 21 years old and she and her young adult friends are organizing. They realize they didn’t do enough to change the outcome of the Presidential race and they will not make the same mistake twice.
Yes Susan. been there since last year. I signed the most recent ones too. They weren’t delivered to my congressman because he is a Democrat.
There are several republicans I’d like to see explain their votes close by though. Pombo is the closest/biggest ass I’d like to see booted from office.
June 7th, 2005 at 1:15 pmMoveon.org is a cool place. Only people who hate capable people are there, and that includes me. I’ve got lots of time on myhands. (and a blister)
June 7th, 2005 at 2:29 pmGeorge (that’s Mr. Soros to you, SLS) sends us all a very hefty monthly stipend, but only because we are all very goodlooking. You know, presentable. Maybe you could get on that Extreme Makover show.
June 7th, 2005 at 3:36 pmFantastic Kindness,
I’ve been a member for about a year also.
They are asking what their members want their next assignment to be and IMPEACHMENT is at the top of everybody’s list.
Give it up buckshot we are winning this one!
June 7th, 2005 at 6:49 pmYou might try using KY Jelly to prevent those blisters on your hands or get a girlfriend who’s name is “handrea”.
Acting Deputy Attorney General with the Department of Justice Robert Davis McCallum, Jr., is also the chairman of President Bush’s Corporate Fraud Task Force.
Two unethical actions found:
http://indiantrust.com/_pdfs/notice111.PDF
“On December 23, 2002, this Court found that counsel for contemnors Gale Norton and Neal McCaleb had engaged in unethical conduct and to the Committee on Grievances of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia for their roles in the unethical transmission of bogus historical statements of account that purport to terminate rights of children who are individual Indian trust beneficiaries. This Court referred for DISIPLINARY ACTION ALL ATTORNEYS WHO HAD PARTICIPATED IN SUCH UNETHICAL communications, including those who are not yet identified.
Robert D. McCallum is one of those attorneys – listed in the PDF footnote — see below for others… LL
PDF Attorney Footnote #1: Robert D. McCallum, Stuart E. Schiffer, J. Christopher Kohn, Sandra P. Spooner, John T. Stemplewicz, and Cynthia L. Alexander.�
http://www.cit.uscourts.gov/ slip_op/ Slip_op02/ slipop02-74.pdf
Keep in mine that McCallum comes from a Cotton Dynasty Family.
Cotton Industry Displaced Employees VERSUS US Sec. of Labor: “Galey & Lord shifted production to Mexico – displacing many workers. The former employees sued for relief under NAFTA in the United States Court of International Trade. The judge ruled that he “cannot concurâ€? that – under NAFTA — former yarn workers are entitled to receive Transitional Adjustment Assistance.â€?
McCallum should have removed himself from this case due to a conflict of interest:
Robert D. McCallum Jr. tried this case against worker assistance – the workers lost. His father the late Robert D. McCallum SENIOR was: � President of the Southern Cotton Association in 1952-1953 and a Past President of the American Cotton Shippers Association in 1965 died at the age of 93 on February 22, 2005. He was also a former member of the boards of directors of various business entities including the National Cotton Council, the Memphis Cotton Exchange, and Union Planters Corporation.
http://www.southerncottonassociation.com/2005/MCCALLUM.pdf
Bush sure knows how to pick em….
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