Comments on: Wolfowitz’s Hunger For Taking Out Saddam Clouded The Facts http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/13/wolfowitzs-hunger-for-taking-out-saddam-clouded-the-facts/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:22:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Marti Payne http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/13/wolfowitzs-hunger-for-taking-out-saddam-clouded-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-385997 Marti Payne Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:02:28 +0000 /?p=1080#comment-385997 Pip-pip, regards from your new visitor Marti Payne All is so good, that I’d like to find out any mistake or discrepancy, but I have not found. Take my words; it is not insulting for me. I am really very glad for you! I'm glad I found this site.Marti Payne %e-mail% Pip-pip, regards from your new visitor Marti Payne All is so good, that I’d like to find out any mistake or discrepancy, but I have not found. Take my words; it is not insulting for me. I am really very glad for you! I’m glad I found this site.Marti Payne %e-mail%

]]> By: Thom http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/13/wolfowitzs-hunger-for-taking-out-saddam-clouded-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-33698 Thom Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:53:24 +0000 /?p=1080#comment-33698 Hi, Kriselda. I agree with you that it is a worthwhile distinction. But I would add that Faiz's point still stands. Wolfowitiz hyped the WMD threat and <a href="http://www.tsujiru.net/?p=39">much more</a>. I have to agree with Ron, also. This was indeed a case of socializing the risks and costs, while privatizing the benefits. The--by some accounts--$300 billion allocated has resulted in very fat paydays for certain corporations and private contractors. On the same, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4353491.stm">Transparency International</a> warns that the Iraq reconstruction, which btw is<a href="http://www.tsujiru.net/?p=151"> barely happening</a>, risks becoming "the biggest corruption scandal in history." We're not safer. The Iraqi people are "free," if one election under marshal law counts as democracy, but their daily lives are worse. And the US now stands lower in world opinon than any other time in past 100 years. Yet Bush, Cheney and neocons seem to think everything's going according to plan. Sadly, as Ron suggests, in some perverse sense they might be right. Hi, Kriselda. I agree with you that it is a worthwhile distinction.

But I would add that Faiz’s point still stands. Wolfowitiz hyped the WMD threat and much more.

I have to agree with Ron, also. This was indeed a case of socializing the risks and costs, while privatizing the benefits.

The–by some accounts–$300 billion allocated has resulted in very fat paydays for certain corporations and private contractors.

On the same, Transparency International warns that the Iraq reconstruction, which btw is barely happening, risks becoming “the biggest corruption scandal in history.”

We’re not safer. The Iraqi people are “free,” if one election under marshal law counts as democracy, but their daily lives are worse. And the US now stands lower in world opinon than any other time in past 100 years.

Yet Bush, Cheney and neocons seem to think everything’s going according to plan. Sadly, as Ron suggests, in some perverse sense they might be right.

]]> By: Susan http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/13/wolfowitzs-hunger-for-taking-out-saddam-clouded-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-33670 Susan Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:38:42 +0000 /?p=1080#comment-33670 The bottom line is, the weapons inspectors did not find WMD's and everybody knew that before the invasion. It is illegal to declare war to take a leader out of power. That is the issue, there was no legal cause to invade Iraq. Votetoimpeach.org The bottom line is, the weapons inspectors did not find
WMD’s and everybody knew that before the invasion.
It is illegal to declare war to take a leader out of power.
That is the issue, there was no legal cause to invade Iraq.
Votetoimpeach.org

]]> By: Ron http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/13/wolfowitzs-hunger-for-taking-out-saddam-clouded-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-33609 Ron Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:29:56 +0000 /?p=1080#comment-33609 The real message was this: “Iraq presents a case of direct threat to the dumbass policies of the United States and our allies and a key to the future of one of the most important commodity in the world, oil, which we will steal at the point of a gun … The complete lie is, disarming Iraq and fighting the war on terror are not merely related; disarming Iraq’s arsenal of terror is a crucial part of winning the war on terror, which will go on forever and ever because we don't want it to end. We'll just feign that we are winning it. We'll socialize the costs, privatize the profits and sucker everybody on earth. That's the ticket.� The real message was this:

“Iraq presents a case of direct threat to the dumbass policies of the United States and our allies and a key to the future of one of the most important commodity in the world, oil, which we will steal at the point of a gun … The complete lie is, disarming Iraq and fighting the war on terror are not merely related; disarming Iraq’s arsenal of terror is a crucial part of winning the war on terror, which will go on forever and ever because we don’t want it to end. We’ll just feign that we are winning it. We’ll socialize the costs, privatize the profits and sucker everybody on earth. That’s the ticket.â€?

]]> By: Russ Ruszkowski http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/13/wolfowitzs-hunger-for-taking-out-saddam-clouded-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-33563 Russ Ruszkowski Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:35:25 +0000 /?p=1080#comment-33563 I love the language - we need to get some real doozies to describe the Bush administration - then, maybe, Bush voters can really get their teeth into something and vote in ways to actually "improve" this country. So far, I like Bush's <u>Legion of Doom.</u> I love the language – we need to get some real doozies to describe the Bush administration – then, maybe, Bush voters can really get their teeth into something and vote in ways to actually “improve” this country. So far, I like Bush’s Legion of Doom.

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