Bush Still Propagating Iraq/9-11 Myth
By on Jun 18th, 2005 at 6:53 pm
Bush Still Propagating Iraq/9-11 Myth
President Bush In His Radio Address Today: “We went to war because we were attacked, and we are at war today because there are still people out there who want to harm our country and hurt our citizens.” [6/18/05]
VERSUS
President Bush In 2003: “We’ve had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th [attacks].” [9/17/03]
The deception continues
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The Iraqi people are better off now. It doesn’t matter WHY we went to war. What matters is what has happened. And what has happened has been a good thing.
June 18th, 2005 at 7:28 pmGood one Peter, but you need to kick your leg out higher when goose-stepping to the cadence…
June 18th, 2005 at 7:56 pmPeter you may think that the Iraqi people are better off but are the family members of the >1700 soldiers that have died better off.
June 18th, 2005 at 8:47 pmWhat matters is whether what has happened is better than the other options which were available to us — for example, holding Saddam in check while going after bin Laden in Pakistan and holding Saudi Arabia accountable for their supporting role in 9/11. Would we be safer had we put some effort towards North Korea instead? Then there’s the compromises we made with dictatorships for the military basing rights necessary to support the Iraq war.
June 18th, 2005 at 8:53 pmJust which one of the Iraqi people told you that, Peter? Name one. Buckshot will give you $1000 for every Iraqi you name that will say that.
June 18th, 2005 at 9:02 pm“It doesn’t matter WHY we went to war?”
You are an idiot. There is just no other way to state that.
June 18th, 2005 at 9:03 pmI’m very conifdent that the catalyst to war is an important topic. Historians will agree. Further, the well-being of Iraqi citizens today is debatable both ways. You need to come with something more than a blanket statement.
Bottom line: Bush (and McLellan) lies.
June 18th, 2005 at 9:22 pmPeter, Despite the fact that I planned to remove an ugly wart from your face, we decided to cut your nose off because we thought it was ugly too. In the long run, everyone in your family is better off so I’m sure you’ll appreciate it in time. Sorry for any temporary problems you may experience. Remember, what has happened has happend and it’s a good thing.
PS: I’m certain you have already signed up for the Army so you can help complete this good thing. . . and if you’re too old, I am certain your children have joined up. If not, your words are hollow, just like our idiot leaders.
June 18th, 2005 at 9:25 pmI agree with Peter, its like Rush Limbaugh it does not matter that he’s played holier than thou with the drug addiction thing, then we found out he was really an addict. What matters is that he’s a good liar!!!
June 18th, 2005 at 9:27 pmPeter can’t talk right now, he’s watching America’s Most Wanted or whatever’s on FOX.
June 18th, 2005 at 9:28 pmGovernor George W Bush, speaking in 1999 on the campaign trail about Kosovo:
“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”
-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)
June 18th, 2005 at 9:37 pmI think the riginal laa was a winner. We’ll have to go with that one agin.
June 18th, 2005 at 9:38 pm…and none of them live in Saudi Arabia.
June 18th, 2005 at 9:43 pmTranslation: We will be there for a looooong ,long,long time.
June 18th, 2005 at 9:54 pmKid: Daddy are we there yet? Huh? Huh? are we there, are we? How much longer? Huh? How much?
Daddy’s answer: We’ll get there when we get there.
The People: Dubya are we pulling out yet? Huh? Huh, are we? Huh? Are we pulling out? When ? How Many? Huh?
June 18th, 2005 at 10:10 pmDubya’s answer: We’ll pull out when we defeat terra.
Better give daddy the “breatholizer” Jeff, because I think he’s driving drunk AGAIN!
June 18th, 2005 at 10:50 pmIs that “skid” as in the skid marks on your shorts or as in hitting the skids on skidrow. By the way this is the same fake Skid as the fake Susan. Hi buttshottonytedroyfakesuasnfakeskid etc. Go tie down your trailer before the next high winds hit.
June 18th, 2005 at 11:07 pmAh, our gas-station-run government is at it again. Refusing to admit that global warming even exists — not what to do about it — that it exists.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1509839,00.html
June 18th, 2005 at 11:21 pmJeff seems to think invading a country is like a family road trip. Bush wanted an exit strategy in 1999. He doesn’t want anyone to ask for one now. If you want to show how much better the Iraqis are now, grab a video camera, take the next plane to Baghdad, and step outside the Green Zone to document the democratic paradise that Bush has created.
June 18th, 2005 at 11:31 pmWhy the truth matters.
The truth about the reasons the USA goes to war are important for reasons so fundamental, so basic that it leaves some people in mild shock that anyone would suggest otherwise.
The Iraqi people did not ask Bush to kill over 60,000 innocent civilians to liberate them. They did not ask that America put up puppets to replace Saddam who was a puppet created by America and the British years ago.
The truth matters because Bush placed our troops in harms way with a plan that wasn’t well thought out, people died, were wounded, were crippled, or maimed because of the lies and the rush to invade. There was no plan for the aftermath, that’s a part of the historical facts, not a liberal bias.
The truth matters because there was nothing but some bizarre starry eyed assessment of what could be accomplished in Iraq and the middle-east. Spreading democracy is not a magic trick and all the repetition in the world doesn’t make the Bush-Iraq quigmire a dream fulfilled. Question authority, its doesn’t hurt democracy, on the contrary it helps.
The truth about what could be accomplished matters so that the american people, operating in a democracy could weigh the costs ( mortal and monetary) versus the benefits and make an honest assessment based on the truth. Bush betrayed everything that America and its ideals stand for when he sold this war based on a series of lies, exaggerations, and distortions. World wide terrorism is at an all time high, so its not stopping terrorism, its taking resources away from fighting terror.
The truth matters because the president of the USA is a civil service employee that gets free public health care, he is not a king and we the people are not pawns to be manipulated.
The truth is that on 9-11 we suffered a terrible attack, the vast majority of americans gave the president and congress carte blanche to act swiftly in an emergency situation to do what was neccessary to defend our country and bring those responsible to justice. Bush betrayed that trust with a lie. Iran and North Korea are both far bigger threats then Saddam was. Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and Syria all had/have more entanglements with terrorism then Iraq. The truth is, as of today the american people have no real idea why 1,700+ americans had to die in Iraq. We may not know for years unless there’s an improable impeachment. We do know that the reasons Bush and the neocons gave are not rael. Even the right has floated some plausible reaons: American hegemony in the middle-east, oil….? Who really knows, not the people of this democratic republic.
The truth matters because we are leaders of the free world and our crediblity matters.
The truth matters because there were, as retired General Anthony Zinni has said, we had Saddam bottled up for 12 years and there were plenty of steps short of making our troops sitting ducks, that could have been taken if Saddam had gotten out of hand.
Johnson lied about the Gulf of Tonkin, that was a serious and devastating lie. Nixon and Kissinger lied about Cambodia and the Vietnamization of the Vietnam War. Every time our leaders lie its leaves a big gaping wound.
I got over almost 10 million hits for “why the truth matters” on Google, some of it written by right-wingers. What we have now is the Bush apologists saying the truth mattered on Monday, they screwed over America and the world on Tuesday, and here it is Wednesday and they say it doesn’t matter, everything will work out.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all off its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” – Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels
June 19th, 2005 at 1:50 amHi – my 10-year old girl’s head was blown off in a market-place on the very first night of bombing in Iraq. But that’s cool, ‘coz she probably planned 9/11, and now that she was buried with shrapnel still in her neck, my fellow Iraqis and Americans are better off. Thanks!!
June 19th, 2005 at 8:07 amOriginal, Jeff. Skid is for the marks I leave as I hit the brakes AFTER hitting you at 60mph, leaving quite the spread for the crows. Really, C’mon…
June 19th, 2005 at 11:38 amThe truth doesn’t matter. If it did, nobody would lie. Plus, and remember this, all is fair in love and war. Don’t you forget it!
You can lie, you can kill, you can steal, you can hoodwink every person residing on both hemispheres; it doesn’t matter.
Remember, all is fair in love and war.
Anything goes and it does.
Exit strategy? What exit strategy? We don’t need no stinking exit strategy?
Never have and never will. This war will last just about as long as it will last.
Please be sure to vote Republican so that you count. You want to count don’t you? All of the Republican votes were counted in Florida. Republican votes count. All others don’t.
Maybe in 2006, you’ll have a blue finger, too. Just so you count.
I’ll say it one more time, ALL IS FAIR IN LOVE AND WAR.
And, that’s the truth.
June 19th, 2005 at 11:38 amI’ll say it one more time, ALL IS FAIR IN LOVE AND WAR.
And, that’s the truth.
Sorry Ron, but that sounds more like a cop-out. I know what you’re saying, but to roll over and not call a terd a terd is worthless.
June 19th, 2005 at 12:34 pm“We went to [war in Iraq] because we were attacked.”
Here’s the point: Bush made a decision based on faulty intelligence. Everyone admits that. Now that he has the correct intelligence, he hasn’t changed his mind.
June 19th, 2005 at 1:06 pmThe reality speaks for itself.
“Ain’t no need to wonder why, whoopee, we’re all gonna die.” – Country Joe
When you cop out, you cope with the ‘reality,’ no matter how unreal it is. Millions opposed the invasion, but it didn’t do any good. Evil prevailed. That’s how it is.
Stop this war! What good will that do?
June 19th, 2005 at 1:17 pmRoll over and quit, that’s the spirit.
June 19th, 2005 at 1:29 pmCrooks and Liars has the radio address posted
June 19th, 2005 at 1:35 pmhttp://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/06/19.html#a3519
if you wan to listen
With criticism building, poll numbers plummeting and facing defections from his own party, the President used Saturday’s weekly radio address to begin a new PR offensive to bolster support for Iraq policies.
If that performance is any indication, George Bush has moved from profound deception and deep denial to outright fantasy. In one short address, Bush resurrected the fiction that Iraq was somehow complicit in 9/11, while pretending his May 1, 2003 victory speech on the USS Abraham Lincoln never happened…
For more details, see:
“Bush on Iraq: That Was Then, This Is Now.”.
June 19th, 2005 at 2:36 pmBush attacked America and that is a fact.
June 19th, 2005 at 3:20 pmFigure it out folks, he’s busted and he knows it!
Um, Peter, aren’t we supposed to be a democracy? If you don’t care that we were lied to be the president to get us into an optional war then you are not a loyal American.
June 19th, 2005 at 3:49 pmIt’s a good day to be cynical. If you want cynical, then think of Bush and the neocons and the war party and anything about the US gov these days; then it’s not too difficult to wax cynical.
One thing is for sure: The insurgents sometimes roll over and die, but they keep on killing Americans, too. They do NOT want the US to withdraw, killing them is more fun. It’s an excellent propaganda tool to recruit more insurgents. The longer the US stays in Iraq, the more the possibility of a successful recruting campaign to enlist more insurgents. In the meantime, it is difficult to recruit men and women to enlist into the US Armed Forces. If
that isn’t an anti-war sentiment, I don’t know what is.
If the US is smart, they will begin to engage a withdrawal strategy right now, with 50,000 insurgents surreptitiously surrounding them inch by inch, it don’t look good. But the US government won’t withdraw, so the US military will once again learn the hardway that paybacks are a bitch.
The words ‘think’ and ‘progressive’ are constructive terms. The US gov would be wise to include them in their daily briefings. Thinking and progressing in the White House are absent at this time.
The South wasn’t too happy to have 116,000 Union troops in Mississippi in 1865.
So far, it’s only 1700. It could get worse. Unintended consequences and other sundry items are still in the works, I’m afraid.
That’s only a couple each day of American Soldiers dying over there. It’s been worse inthe past.
“May 1-4, 1863 – The Union Army under Gen. Hooker is decisively defeated by Lee’s much smaller forces at the Battle of Chancellorsville in Virginia as a result of Lee’s brilliant and daring tactics. Confederate Gen. Stonewall Jackson is mortally wounded by his own soldiers. Hooker retreats. Union losses are 17,000 killed, wounded and missing out of 130,000. The Confederates, 13, 000 out of 60,000.”
The Confederate Army was defeated. The insurgency is far from defeated and in fact building. So, in order for that to have continued success, the US must remain in Iraq. It’s a win-win for the insurgency and a lose-lose for the US.
What the heck, it is still going to pay, so why not?
That is why it is being fought, it’s big bucks. Muy dinero.
Stop this war!
June 19th, 2005 at 3:59 pmThe way Bush led us into Iraq was wrong on two levels.
First, he lied, he knew there was no new evidence Saddam was building WMD, but it is always hard to prove a negative, so he could play that card. People were angry and scared and because of that he could munipulate the country. That is no way to lead.
Second, it was a very bad strategic move. We were attacked by bin Laden, who is in another part of the world, and was fundamentally different than Saddam Hussein, and is a long term thinker and is still planning. He is now hidding out in the most strategically important Muslin country, namely Pakistan. Why, because they have a nuclear arsenal. Afghanistan is important because it is right next to Pakistan, so rebuilding Afghanistan was more important than invading Iraq. If you were bin Laden, that is that country to undermine. There is where you rebuild your base because it cannot be invaded. If Pakistan goes Radical Islamic look out. It will become the terrorist capital in the World. All because Bush and his buddies were so fixed on Iraq’s oil riches.
We need new leadership. Someone who understands the World in a more fundamental way than Bush, Cheney and Karl Rove ever could. Someone with a brain, and is not just trying to be greedy and clever as they pile up the national debt while paying off their supporters with tax cuts.
I think Bush’s legacy will be one big IOU to a World full of terrorists.
June 19th, 2005 at 11:20 pmWe Know Where Osama is but Sovereignty is More Important?
June 20th, 2005 at 7:13 pmSweet Jebus.
Actually, this is more Bush double speak. “We went to war because we were attacked” is referring to the Afghanistan war, although it implies Iraq as well. He refers to Iraq in the next line when he says “and we are at war today because…” It’s his way of drawing lines of connection where they otherwise do not exist.
Read it again, and again, and you’ll see that this is his intention. Blur lines of distinction by using vague language that will be interpreted by its listener in whichever way he so chooses, leaving different people with entirely different reactions.
June 21st, 2005 at 11:01 amClinton lied about having an affair and we impeached him. NOBODY lost their lives due too an affair nor him lying about it. Republicans were pissed too high heaven that he lied too a grand jury, mocking the judicial system. Again, nobody died.
Now Bush lies too us about war. We have lost over 1700 US troops. That doesn’t count the journalists, activists, Iraqi troops, coalition troops, Iraqi citizens, nor US citizens/contractors that have died.
The reasons why went too war are very important, because thousands upon thousands of people have lost their lives for those reasons.
So you mean too tell me that when a President lies too not only his own nation, but too the world, that it is not 1)important or 2)impeachable?
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December 28th, 2005 at 6:32 pmThat was amazing.
Do I get 1,000 for half the population polled by CNN?
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — Nearly half the Iraqis polled in a survey conducted primarily in March and early April said they believed the U.S.-led war had done more harm than good, but 61 percent of respondents said Saddam Hussein’s ouster made it worth any hardships.
One person who disagrees with your opinion and the following happens:
The ususal Nazi insult.
Threatening of violence,
Aimless attacks of inteligence,
an inacurate and made up body count of civilians,
Fox News comment,
Global Warming announcement.
Act like someone cares about the soldiers (note CNN poll says Military Favored Bush 72-18 in the election with Kerry)
One more Nazi reference
Someone acting like they had a child in Iraq that was killed (being sarcastic or a horrible liar)
Someone railing about clinton.
Not very understanding people are you?
August 8th, 2006 at 9:26 amjust testing…
November 9th, 2006 at 7:41 pmtesting again
November 9th, 2006 at 7:41 pmThe ususal Nazi insult.
November 9th, 2006 at 7:42 pmThreatening of violence,
Aimless attacks of inteligence,
an inacurate and made up body count of civilians,
Fox News comment,
Global Warming announcement.
Act like someone cares about the soldiers (note CNN poll says Military Favored Bush 72-18 in the election with Kerry)
One more Nazi reference
Someone acting like they had a child in Iraq that was killed (being sarcastic or a horrible liar)
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