Rice Says Administration Told Americans Iraq Would Be A “Generational Commitment”
Rice Says Administration Told Americans Iraq Would Be A “Generational Commitment”
This morning on Fox News Sunday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was asked if “the Bush administration fairly [can] be criticized for failing to level with the American people about how long and difficult this commitment will be?” Rice responded:
[T]he administration, I think, has said to the American people that it is a generational commitment to Iraq.
That’s not true. To build support for the war the administration told the American people that the conflict in Iraq will be short and affordable.
Vice President Dick Cheney, 3/16/03:
[M]y belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. . . . I think it will go relatively quickly. . . (in) weeks rather than months
Donald Rumsfeld, 2/7/03:
It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.
Former Budget Director Mitch Daniels, 3/28/03:
The United States is committed to helping Iraq recover from the conflict, but Iraq will not require sustained aid…
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Thank you for helping to expose the lies – I wish our press would do the same.
June 19th, 2005 at 1:07 pmDr Rice, you really crack me up. Crack me up like a skull hit with a .223
Yes, now that you mention it, I remember someone, not sure who, saying sometime, not sure when, something about something being generational. That must have been it, right?
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June 19th, 2005 at 1:13 pmBush said that the *War on Terror* would be a generational commitment — not Iraq.
June 19th, 2005 at 1:13 pmWell that explains EVERYTHING then, doesn’t it? Dave?
June 19th, 2005 at 1:20 pmBoy, silly us… And to think we thought attacking Iraq WAS part of the war on “terrah”. Does “generational commitment” mean commitment to generating excuses?
June 19th, 2005 at 1:25 pmBush’s war on “terrah” is really no mispronunciation. Terra in Latin is “earth”
and his war – as he has said has no end – it is really “war on earth”.
Impeach him and then imprison him.
June 19th, 2005 at 1:28 pmthey lied, and our soldiers died
http://www.downingstreetmemo.com
facts were fixed to support the allegations
June 19th, 2005 at 1:40 pmThey just keep on comming.I wonder if we should go ahead and give up democracy and go ahead and make george king, and his administration could be his royal family, and we can all be servants. Less stress on us, and it would be the right thing to do. if not, terrah will be our fault. or not…………
June 19th, 2005 at 1:53 pmthrow the bums out now
June 19th, 2005 at 1:58 pmIf anyone has had success in getting your opinion
June 19th, 2005 at 1:58 pmprinted in ANY newspaper in this “dead fourth estate”,
I would like to see that. I’ve sent three to the
supposedly liberal SF Chronicle. Guess what, NO INK. The WH and Karl Rove are shutting this down
anywhere in this country. Staple the signs, yes.
Honest to God, the more you guys dig up the better and better the case for impeachment gets. These quotes show how the entire administration was complicit in the lies and deception that were involved.
If there are hearings on impeachment, I sure hope they call you to testify, Judd, you’d do an excellent job.
June 19th, 2005 at 2:01 pmBush said that the *War on Terror* would be a generational commitment – not Iraq.
but KindaSleazy said it’s Iraq that’s the generational commitment. Yet another bait-and-switch from the Bush regime.
June 19th, 2005 at 2:02 pm” if the world believed in an eye for an eye, it would go blind”
Gandhi
while i am not saying that post 9/11 we should have not responded, where the hell is osama bin laden??
June 19th, 2005 at 2:07 pmI seem to remember something about a “cakewalk”
June 19th, 2005 at 2:07 pmI’ve been criticizing the Bush administration about this war since before 9/11. It’s been so frustrating because my voice is usually drowned out by a bunch of pro conservative – pseudo christian wackos who have even called my writing “dragon speak”. Implying my criticism of the Bush administration is supporting the devil. We really need to do something about these pseudo fundamentalist wacko’s before we can have justice; here or abroad.
June 19th, 2005 at 2:15 pmUnfortunately, the nation has spoken (by a 51% majority). We sought vengeance instead of justice, and was deceived. We re-elected the deceiver, and we protected and promoted those ultimately responsible for America’s human rights violations.
Nations stand before God just as people do. I think we may be brought low for our iniquities, sometime in the next 50 years. Unless we, as a nation, repent our actions.
“But if that different future for the Middle East is to be realized, we and our allies must make a generational commitment to helping the people of the Middle East transform their region.”
http://www.useu.be/Categories/GlobalAffairs/Middle_East/Aug0803Rice.html
This was Condi on 8/11/2003 at a Black Journalists meeting.
June 19th, 2005 at 2:15 pmThis was after the start of the war. So she told us but it was already too late.
I think we should ask Dear Leader back down to Texas for a stretch. I figure a horse and some rope be easy enough to find…
June 19th, 2005 at 2:17 pmeven my bush would make a better president- as seen on a t-shirt worn by a chick on bourbon street!!
June 19th, 2005 at 2:21 pmYou mean we haven’t always been at war with Eurasia?
I don’t know. The question that haunts me most these days isn’t even whether there will be an impeachment. Beyond that, even if there _is_ an impeachment, what is the punishment? If it isn’t prime time execution on the White House lawn for KBR/Haliburton’s treasonous war profittering, the standard will have been set. The next bunch of thieving clowns know if their preemptive warmongering fails they can get away with “We’re sorry. We just didn’t know.” too. The fabric of the nation has been wounded by these weasels and I seriously doubt the necessary measures will be taken to repair it by setting an example.
June 19th, 2005 at 2:33 pmWith criticism building, poll numbers plummeting and facing defections from his own party, the President used Saturday’s weekly radio address to begin a new PR offensive to bolster support for Iraq policies.
If that performance is any indication, George Bush has moved from profound deception and deep denial to outright fantasy. In one short address, Bush resurrected the fiction that Iraq was somehow complicit in 9/11, while pretending his May 1, 2003 victory speech on the USS Abraham Lincoln never happened…
For more details, see:
“Bush on Iraq: That Was Then, This Is Now.”.
June 19th, 2005 at 2:36 pmWhere are the Republicans that were calling for impeachment of Clinton for his lie on his sexual behavior? You don’t hear them at all
June 19th, 2005 at 2:40 pmThey’re too busy suckling the teets of BushCo.
June 19th, 2005 at 2:42 pmThis administration has banked on the short attention span of the American people to pull off the things it has, from the election to all the things they have enacted since taking office.
We need to get people to wake up to what’s going on before it becomes too late!
June 19th, 2005 at 2:46 pmThey have already highjacked the media. How do you think we can wake the people up? I tried on my own campus, but people are not interested
June 19th, 2005 at 2:50 pmNow, I hate this administration as much as anyone but don’t stoop to their level. Here is Rice’s full quote:
“And so the administration, I think, has said to the American people that it is a generational commitment to Iraq. But it is not a generational commitment in military terms; it is a commitment of our support to them, our political support and an understanding that democracy takes time. But they’re making very rapid progress.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160008,00.html
June 19th, 2005 at 2:56 pmFrom a memo dated March 22, 2002 from Peter Ricketts, British foreign office political director, to Jack Straw, Britain’s Foreign Secretary, on advice given on Iraq to Blair.
“The truth is that what has changed is not the pace of Saddam Hussein’s WMD programmes, but our tolerance of them post-11 September. This is not something we need to be defensive about, but attempts to claim otherwise publicly will increase scepticism about our case. I am relieved that you decided to postpone publication of the unclassified document. My meeting yesterday showed that there is more work to do to ensure that the figures are accurate and consistent with those of the US. But even the best survey of Iraq’s WMD programmes will not show much advance in recent years on the nuclear, missile or CW/BW (chemical or biological weapon) fronts: the programmes are extremely worrying but have not, as far as we know, been stepped up.”
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=3051
June 19th, 2005 at 2:57 pmTalkin’ bout’ my generation. Talkin’ ’bout my generation. That’s my favorite song. Judith Miller and I play it before we go to bed….
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June 19th, 2005 at 3:02 pmPete:
And? More feelgood falsehoods and generalities? Doesn’t cut it Pete.
June 19th, 2005 at 3:03 pmFox news Pete. C’mon, surely you can do better than that crap. Trust not the animal that bears close resemblance to a dog but is disloyal and will bite you in the butt.
June 19th, 2005 at 3:05 pmMission Accomplished!
That was two years ago….
Now it’s generational?
votetoimpeach.org
June 19th, 2005 at 3:17 pmA Generation Long Commitment
June 19th, 2005 at 3:33 pmFrom Think Progress.
This morning on Fox News Sunday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was asked if “the Bush administration fairly [can] be criticized for failing to level with the American people about how long and difficult this commitment wi…
It’s sure starting to look like a generational military committment.
June 19th, 2005 at 3:40 pmMilitary recruiters in middle schools look like a generational military committment.
June 19th, 2005 at 3:42 pmI remember what it cost the U.S. the last time we made a “generational commitment”
June 19th, 2005 at 4:07 pmNOTICE HOW SHE TRIES TO COVER HE ASS WITH “I THINK”….
June 19th, 2005 at 4:09 pmMY father alway never believe anything hear and half of what you see. This is true of the mainstream media and the Bush Cartel
June 19th, 2005 at 4:33 pmTwo things. (1) Rice herself said “generational commitment” in a news conference about 15 months ago (early 2004) NOT BEFORE THE WAR STARTED AS SHE IS TRYING TO WORM OUT NOW!!!l
June 19th, 2005 at 4:33 pm(2) Since when is anyone surprised by her (or anyo of them saying) that “the Bush Administration cannot be criticized for . . . .” To hear them tell it, they’re immune to criticism by virtue of their self perceived infallibility. Attemtion, Georgie and Dick, that cracking noise you’re hearing is the sound of your impenetrable ivory tower giving way.
While I would love nothing more than to see the president impeached for his many lies, I have one little problem. It is the two most feared words in the English language; President Cheney. Too bad that we can’t impeach the whole administration with Karl Rove being the first in line.
June 19th, 2005 at 4:36 pmI love George W. Bush. At least he didn’t get a blow job, which is the most horrific thing a man could do in the White House. Sex is evil, and Bush doesn’t have it. God bless him.
June 19th, 2005 at 4:44 pmInsurgency wars ARE generational commitments…Algeria, VIETNAM. They usually take a couple of generations, millions of casualties later, to realize they were colossal mistakes in the first place. The difference this time is that the Constitution was circumvented by the Bush Brownshirts, with lies much too complicated for that moron to come up with on his own.
June 19th, 2005 at 4:49 pm!!!~~~NEW FLASH~~~!!!
THE OFFICIAL TOTAL OF U.S. DEAD IN THE IRAQI WAR AS OF JUNE 19, 2005, IS NOT 1797.
THE OFFICIAL TOTAL IS 6,210!!!
Oh, wait. That number is incorrect too. That number is from January 1, 2005. Unfortunatly,the number is over 7,000 and may be closer to 9,000!
I hope this is wrong, but I fear it is not.
Read the story. Read it and weep, literally. :>(
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/jim-lampley/the-ultimate-deception_2838.html
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1622.htm
June 19th, 2005 at 4:53 pm“The cost of the [Iraq] war will be small. We can afford the war, and we’ll put it behind us.” Treasury Secretary John Snow
– As quoted in the New York Times, 3/9/03.
June 19th, 2005 at 4:55 pmLike that “Dowing Street” sign idea!
June 19th, 2005 at 5:02 pmSince the TV and press gives little coverage to anything anti-BUSH, it’s a good way to show our feelings.
I too share the belief that impeachment of Bush and Co. will not be enough to teach anyone else who might come along that they will be a very dear price for misleading the country and taking the lives of American youth and the lives of other innocents, as well leaving thousands upon thousands maimed, many for the rest of their lives. I believe that the charge has to be high crimes and treason. I do not favor the death penalty, but nothing less than life in prison at hard labor for this whole motley crew, as well as their congressional “yes” persons, and their media sycophants.
June 19th, 2005 at 5:09 pmAll this generational commitment was said of the War on Terror. Rice’s comments, in or out of context, have nothing to do with the fact that the invasion of Iraq was never about pursuing terrorists. In any event, I read the full text of Rice’s statement on Fox as the possible precusor by the Bush administration to shift to setting a timeline for withdrawal. That doesn’t mean they will. But the pressure from every quarter requires some fancy stepping.
June 19th, 2005 at 5:12 pmTBRNews is an anti-semitic wingnut site. Politics makes for strange bedfellows.
June 19th, 2005 at 5:35 pmThe following were the readings today at Church. These readings are scheduled for the calendar year by the Episcopal Church (Anglican). It would have been the same readings in The National Cathedral in Washington today also. Bush BTW was born Episcopalian like his father and 24 other American Presidents, the most denomination to be elected President. Read Closely… Wish Bush would return back to a faith that preaches the true word of God…our any Abrahamic religion for that matter! No religious leaders were for this war, and It surely is a crime to bring war on innocent people! Why are were in IRAQ? Bush claims to be a religious man, pandering to the far right that follow false teachings of hate, not love. We have got to get America back from the fanitics! Just thought this spoke to me today so I thought I’d share. None of this is made up, straight from any bible. Think about how we were lied too, decieved into voting for a “more Christian man” than John Kerry. Keep that thought as you read.
Jeremiah’s Complaint
7 O LORD, you deceived [b] me, and I was deceived [c] ;
you overpowered me and prevailed.
I am ridiculed all day long;
everyone mocks me.
8 Whenever I speak, I cry out
proclaiming violence and destruction.
So the word of the LORD has brought me
insult and reproach all day long.
9 But if I say, “I will not mention him
or speak any more in his name,”
his word is in my heart like a fire,
a fire shut up in my bones.
I am weary of holding it in;
indeed, I cannot.
10 I hear many whispering,
“Terror on every side!
Report him! Let’s report him!”
All my friends
are waiting for me to slip, saying,
“Perhaps he will be deceived;
then we will prevail over him
and take our revenge on him.”
11 But the LORD is with me like a mighty warrior;
so my persecutors will stumble and not prevail.
They will fail and be thoroughly disgraced;
their dishonor will never be forgotten.
12 O LORD Almighty, you who examine the righteous
and probe the heart and mind,
let me see your vengeance upon them,
for to you I have committed my cause.
13 Sing to the LORD!
Give praise to the LORD!
He rescues the life of the needy
from the hands of the wicked.
14 Cursed be the day I was born!
May the day my mother bore me not be blessed!
15 Cursed be the man who brought my father the news,
who made him very glad, saying,
“A child is born to youâ€â€a son!”
16 May that man be like the towns
the LORD overthrew without pity.
May he hear wailing in the morning,
a battle cry at noon.
17 For he did not kill me in the womb,
with my mother as my grave,
her womb enlarged forever.
18 Why did I ever come out of the womb
to see trouble and sorrow
and to end my days in shame?
Psalm 69
For the director of music. To the tune of “Lilies.” Of David.
1 Save me, O God,
for the waters have come up to my neck.
2 I sink in the miry depths,
where there is no foothold.
I have come into the deep waters;
the floods engulf me.
3 I am worn out calling for help;
my throat is parched.
My eyes fail,
looking for my God.
4 Those who hate me without reason
outnumber the hairs of my head;
many are my enemies without cause,
those who seek to destroy me.
I am forced to restore
what I did not steal.
5 You know my folly, O God;
my guilt is not hidden from you.
6 May those who hope in you
not be disgraced because of me,
O Lord, the LORD Almighty;
may those who seek you
not be put to shame because of me,
O God of Israel.
7 For I endure scorn for your sake,
and shame covers my face.
8 I am a stranger to my brothers,
an alien to my own mother’s sons;
9 for zeal for your house consumes me,
and the insults of those who insult you fall on me.
10 When I weep and fast,
I must endure scorn;
11 when I put on sackcloth,
people make sport of me.
12 Those who sit at the gate mock me,
and I am the song of the drunkards.
13 But I pray to you, O LORD,
in the time of your favor;
in your great love, O God,
answer me with your sure salvation.
14 Rescue me from the mire,
do not let me sink;
deliver me from those who hate me,
from the deep waters.
15 Do not let the floodwaters engulf me
or the depths swallow me up
or the pit close its mouth over me.
16 Answer me, O LORD, out of the goodness of your love;
in your great mercy turn to me.
17 Do not hide your face from your servant;
answer me quickly, for I am in trouble.
18 Come near and rescue me;
redeem me because of my foes.
19 You know how I am scorned, disgraced and shamed;
all my enemies are before you.
20 Scorn has broken my heart
and has left me helpless;
I looked for sympathy, but there was none,
for comforters, but I found none.
21 They put gall in my food
and gave me vinegar for my thirst.
22 May the table set before them become a snare;
may it become retribution and [a] a trap.
23 May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see,
and their backs be bent forever.
24 Pour out your wrath on them;
let your fierce anger overtake them.
25 May their place be deserted;
let there be no one to dwell in their tents.
26 For they persecute those you wound
and talk about the pain of those you hurt.
27 Charge them with crime upon crime;
do not let them share in your salvation.
28 May they be blotted out of the book of life
and not be listed with the righteous.
Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ Substitute Adam for Bush
12Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man BUSH, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned 13for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law. 14Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
15But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man BUSH, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! 16Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. 17For if, by the trespass of the one man Bush, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
18Consequently, just as the result of one trespass BUSH was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. 19For just as through the disobedience of the one man BUSH the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
20The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
AND FINIALLY SORRY IT’S SO LONG! But strangly it all fit well today with all of the lies that we have been told!
Matthew 10
5These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7As you go, preach this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven is near.’ 8Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,[b]drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. 9Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; 10take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep.
11″Whatever town or village you enter, search for some worthy person there and stay at his house until you leave. 12As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town. 16I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
17″Be on your guard against men; they will hand you over to the local councils and flog you in their synagogues. 18On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
21″Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. 22All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 23When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I tell you the truth, you will not finish going through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
24″A student is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. 25It is enough for the student to be like his teacher, and the servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebub,[c] how much more the members of his household!
26″So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 27What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs. 28Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. 29Are not two sparrows sold for a penny[d]? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father. 30And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31So don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.
32″Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. 33But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.
34″Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn
” ‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her motherinlawâ€â€
36a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[e]
37″Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
40″He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the one who sent me. 41Anyone who receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and anyone who receives a righteous man because he is a righteous man will receive a righteous man’s reward. 42And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones because he is my disciple, I tell you the truth, he will certainly not lose his reward.”
June 19th, 2005 at 5:39 pmCome on, Dubya will hear those scriptures and think, “The Lord is trying to tell me, I will prevail and these liberal critics will be smited… smited? smoted? oh whatever, God’s talkin ’bout terror. And he’s saying, ‘Good job George. You’re going to pull through this.’ I’m gonna defeat terror on all sides, and my liberal persecuters are gonna fall.”
June 19th, 2005 at 5:54 pmWhat would Jesus do? I think we figured that out a while ago. All the religious-right flying monkeyshit is is a”holier than thou” smear campaign anyway. Quoting passages is pointless because few can understand the grammar, and even fewer than that can agree on what the heck it means.
June 19th, 2005 at 6:27 pmBush obviously didn’t spend any more time in Sunday school than he did in english grammar class.
Rice is truly incredible. Not only was she imcompetent as National Security Advisor, she is also a serial liar who blows sweet nothing in the ear of our feckless head of state. If the press was anything like that of the Vietnam era, one of three things would have happened. 1. Bush would not have won in 2000 because the skinny on his NG service would have been blown open, 2. If Bush had won, Scruteny on 9/11 would have been much greater given that 17 Saudis were able to leave the country on 9/11 and NO military interscepts were flown while 9/11 was happening and 3, the Downing Street Memo would be the news item of the hour.
Network strikes again as we slide into an era of darkness, ignorance and deceit. The FF must be rolling in their graves ha ving to witness this ship of fools run this great country into the ground.
June 19th, 2005 at 6:50 pmIn war, truth is the first casualty. This bit of ancient wisdom means that many a soldier and civilian died because politicians lied. The War in Iraq is certainly no exception. In fact, this bloody war may well be the poster child for war on truth.
June 19th, 2005 at 6:57 pmWe were told Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and posed an imminent threat to US security. It did not. We were told war was the last resort. It was not. We were told, some 1500 American lives ago, that the mission was accomplished. It is not, and the carnage continues.
Revelations of some hard truths in the past month alone prove that this ugly war was predetermined many months before the invasion; that intelligence was fixed to justify an invasion; that a massive air assault against Iraq occurred well before the invasion; and that napalm-like weaponry was used against the Iraqi people during the invasion.
The only WMDs are the weapons of mass deception emanating from The White House. We once had a President named George who could not tell a lie. Now we have one who cannot tell the truth.
We’re There Forever
June 19th, 2005 at 7:12 pmI really should start watching the Sunday morning news/talk shows, much as I hate getting my news from television, because then I might not miss out on statements like the one Condi made this morning, that Atrios, and others picked up on.
This morni…
One day Dumbya will have to eat all the Bushit he has been feeding us.
June 19th, 2005 at 7:13 pmUntil that day…….
To: Comment by Fox News Worshipper
So you think little boy george is batter the Bill do you. What about the male prostitute jeff gannon/guckert running around the white houose for two full years and now mary carey the porn gueen having dinner with little boy george. Do your self a favor and google gannon/guckert and mary carey and try to make your statement stick. Your one of those barin daed nutcases who just can’t get enough of this lair from hell!
June 19th, 2005 at 7:40 pmAs I recall Bush declared the war to be over some time ago… hmmmmmm
~lol~
Do they honestly think we have such short memories that we frget what they say ? That we don’t notice how frequently they change their story??? Along with this: first we were going to Iraq because they had WMD and were responsible for 9/11 along with OBL… now it is because we are spreading Democracy.
They can’t even keep their lies straight!
June 19th, 2005 at 7:52 pm“I’ve been to war [sic]. I’ve raised twins. If I had a choice, I’d rather go to war.” – George Bush (Dubya)
Go… fight… win the W-O-T
June 19th, 2005 at 8:01 pm“While I would love nothing more than to see the president impeached for his many lies, I have one little problem. It is the two most feared words in the English language; President Cheney.”
Naw, just impeach and oust him first, THEN do Bush.
June 19th, 2005 at 11:24 pmI’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: only milllions of citizens taking to the streets and loudly proclaiming their disgust with this evil gang and its mountain of dirty lies will get the suckass mainstream media to start doing its job again. Otherwise, these bastards will slither out of yet another scandal, thinking they’re in the right.
June 20th, 2005 at 12:43 amDear Folks:
June 20th, 2005 at 1:06 amSo what’s you boys and girls do besides having an internet bullsession having fun pointing the finger of blame at the lone nut in the White House?
somewhere along the line we got caught up in the idea of a “just” war.
we had one. it was called world war ii. the germans were so atrocious — the crimes against humanity they committed were so heinous — that anyone standing up to them was pretty much righteous by default. and we were. so righteous were we in wwii that our judgment has been clouded ever since.
but we were attacked, some say.
yeah, and some 160,000 people have died in automobile accidents since then. but you don’t see a “war on cars.”
wake up.
June 20th, 2005 at 1:24 amThe complete and utter mendacity of the Bush administration cannot be overstated.
June 20th, 2005 at 2:34 amCondi Is Lying Again
June 20th, 2005 at 7:32 amvia Think ProgressThis morning on Fox News Sunday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was asked if “the Bush administration fairly [can] be criticized for failing to level with the American people about how long and difficult this commitment will be…
I find listening to any member of the Bush crime family wicked depressing knowing they’re running this great country of ours.
I slide in my new Cold Play cd and it blows everything away.
June 20th, 2005 at 9:52 amDear John,
There’s plenty of blame to go around, don’t worry. As for what else we do, you’ll have to get off the Internet and go out into the world to find out.
June 20th, 2005 at 9:58 amIf this administration received faulty intellengence on Iraq wmd then please
June 20th, 2005 at 10:08 amexplain why the president would extend
the civilian highest medal of honor to
George Tenet, the CIA director. Shouldn”t
the media be asking this question??
Condi Rice is, to use her boss’ term, disassembling when it comes to what the administration “has said to the American people.”
Here is an inconvenient record of what President Bush has said to the American people regarding Iraq, as recently as Saturday.
June 20th, 2005 at 10:24 amMSM just nods readily in agreement to whatever spews from this administration.
June 20th, 2005 at 10:27 amMonday Quandry – So Many Links, So Little Time
June 20th, 2005 at 1:46 pmLots of feedback for the WB42 5:30 Report with Doug Krile. Monday’s selection of blogs is good, but the online list is even bigger and better.
Condi Condi was so incompetent as head of National Security, they had to start up a whole new department, Homeland Security, to try to protect us.
Peter principle rules in this government.
June 20th, 2005 at 1:48 pmGeorge Bush..”I think about Iraq every day, every single day” What the H-ll does that mean?
June 20th, 2005 at 2:06 pmNo doubt “Fair and Balanced” Fox let her get away with it. Maybe she’s just not a very good listener herself. She couldn’t remember much accurately at the 9/11 hearings either. Guess her head is too full of all that useful information on how to deal with the Soviets in the 21st Century.
June 20th, 2005 at 2:16 pmThe Emperor STILL has no clothes.
Impeach Bush and Co. and that Co. includes the National Media. They are failing the people who do not know how or where to find real news. 75% give or take of the deaf, dumb and blind American public does not even knwo what the Downing Memo is. Of course thats the fault of the media. Which is the fault of the Bush Admin. He went after and got 2 huge allies in America. The religious right who only care about Gay Marriage and Abortion, and the rich who only care about gettting richer. They have there base and the funding. I brainwashed part of the country will back bush no matter how many NON-Christians he kills ( not including Catolics who are going to hell with everyone else in the warpped minds ) and the rich love it cause they see profits. OH and one last point, I am a 35-45K employee of one of the biggest software companies in the world. Bush’s tax was suppose to filter into my pocket at some point. Then someone explain why this company I am working for has not given out a raise in what will be 5 years even though there profits are growing and they of course have been getting huge tax cuts. I am happy to tell that the CFO has just purchased a new yahat and gave the old one to his son. I didn’t see that happening. LOL.
June 20th, 2005 at 3:00 pmHey America! It’s time to wake up and kick these assholes out. The revolution will be televised. It’s common sense, not partinsanship.
June 20th, 2005 at 3:22 pmGeorge W. Bush is a war criminal. If he were a
June 20th, 2005 at 3:51 pmdemocrat he would already be out of office. Although I’m thrilled the Downing Street Memo has been discovered, he should have been impeached long before now. It just kills me how much this administration just keeps getting away with. However, I do believe all in due time the American people will have had enough, ( even the Republicans ).
Rice just LOOKS like Satan….hmmmm, come to think of it, so does Rumsfeld.
June 20th, 2005 at 4:04 pmGWB, Cheney, Rummy, Wolfy, Ricey, Ashy, they will all be criminally prosecuted as War Criminals by Fall of 2006 (I hope sooner)
June 20th, 2005 at 4:05 pmIf this administration is so worried about national security and protecting America and catching the so-called culprit of 9/11…..why the heck would they announce they have “proof” that bin laden is on the border of Pakistan somewhere????….knowing they watch American television or get wind of updates…duh..Not sure of of attacking Iraq..Brit Intel did not sign off on(agree) war till 7 days before it started…forewarning was given of pending attack, giving both men time to “get away”. Also, why is it he only called saddam a “madman” so MANY times and called bin laden “folks”? PONDER THIS-09/12/2001,Ari Fleishcher”The Administration believes the attacks against the US are probably over for now. We believe that the perpetrators have executed their plan and therefore the risks are significantly reduced.”
June 20th, 2005 at 4:08 pmWhere was Dick Cheney on the morning of 9/11/01?
June 20th, 2005 at 4:12 pmI enjoyed Ben’s comment on calling out the Republicans who were so ever critical the only “real” president I have know in my 27 short years on this rock. I challenge ANY Republican/Democrat to HONESTLY name me one good thing this current imposter of a president has done for this nation, this world, that doesn’t support his Neo-Conservative agenda. I also challenge them to HONESTLY and wholeheartedly choose how they would rather be lied to: a) I did not have sexual relations with that woman, or b) “We have legitimate and substantial evidence that he has WOMD” and “we know where they are at, outside his hometown of Tikrit”, etc. A failed marriage vs tens of thousands dead, a price tag that will destroy the value of this country, and all the while the pipeline is gushin’ while here we lie in tombs. It truly scares the **** out of me when my own (Republican) father, sister, and (Democratic) mother agree with this mans decisions and find no fault or responsibility within this administration. How is this happening? Why do I feel like only a small percentage of “us” can actually look beyond their illusion and see the truth? Am I right in saying this? Why don’t presidents fight their wars…why do they only send the poor??
June 20th, 2005 at 4:49 pmI was interested to hear the CIA talk about the fact they ‘know’ where Bin-Laden is. Tell me, is this a little warning for him to get moving. I mean if I was a cop the last thing I’d tell the criminal I was tailing that I was close to getting him.
June 20th, 2005 at 4:50 pmI wonder if some in the Administration don’t want bin-Laden to be taken, it’s not what he could tell about his group, but what he could tell about the Bushies.
If you have no idea where the criminal is, you would want to provoke him into making a move.
Of course, if he’s hiding in Pakistan, there’s no way Bush will pursue him.
June 20th, 2005 at 4:53 pmPaul, a part of me wants to agree with you about not wanting to expose the “Bushies”. However, a part of me feels that is how a “crazy” conspiracy-theorist thinks which leads me to question my own sanity. At the same time though, the only thing the people have to do is, like “DeepThroat” of the Nixon era stated-”follow the money”. Who is profiting off this war and are their any bonified connections between the profiteers and the current administration? That has been proven, and boastfully continues to blatently stare at “us” each and every day. I feel that Willie Nelson sums it up best for the what SHOULD be done “a man has to answer for the wicked things he’s done, the call a rope in Texas find a tall old tree, round up all of them badboys hang’em high in the street, for ALL the PEOPLE to see.
June 20th, 2005 at 5:09 pmEvery nation gets the government it deserves… God caress America – the home of the bra(inless)ve and the land of the f(ar-religious right)ree… You worry about Iraq? How about starting with who killed JFK – I bet we´ll get to the same circles.
June 20th, 2005 at 5:47 pmWhat a pity!
Ya gotta remember how the Bush speak works now. Recently Bush said (I paraphrase) …”everbody would now agree that Iraq is the center of the war on terror” … in response to the issue of pulling our armed forces out. He lets this rip and gets a “freebie” propaganda piece as it flies right past virtually all the journalists. Because he says it makes it true…?? Last I heard most of the Iraquis would like us to leave, and now quite a number of the wheeler dealer MPs in their new governing “parliament” are signing a document with that same message…GET OUT! Of course, that would mean all the fat contract money would stop… maybe that new Guantanamo facility ($300 million) would stop, all the opportunitists cashing in on our armed service presence would stop, the large potential oil-related rewards would be sacrificed, and our Georgy boy (who tried to “shoot the moon”) would be disgraced- not a great president after all. (Of course, the huge “private security contractor” contracts might even increase…but that would have to funded in some other unaccoutable way… poppies anyone?)
June 20th, 2005 at 6:01 pmThis work tracks the death of our Earth in about 2065, and points clearly to the huge part the United States of America plays in that death.
Americans always strike me for pursuing this work, and have struck me in their own peculiarly cowardly ways since I became only audible mental telepath in human history some thirty-three years ago.
The first time I was struck was shortly after the United States of America enslaved me when I became audibly telepathic, the most recent time was less than a minute ago. There have been literally millions of blows between then and now.
The American people have long claimed the right to enslave and torture me with the same casual, nonchalant ease with which they today claim the right to bomb Muslim children.
It is one of the suggestions of this work that America’s ability to do evil nonchalantly is a fundamental constant in the American people, government and system.
This work is currently tracking a well deserved American disaster expected on June 23, 2005.
This work can be reviewed and followed at http://www.WriterBytes.com?Incredible, and if that approach fails it can be found by going to http://www.WriterBytes.com and clicking I.C. News Films.
Thank you,
Virgil Kret/ I.C. News
Monday, June 20, 2005
Like a sample of no-hope/ America would have me/ Tacked upon utility poles
Expecting The Blast in Three Days
I thought we might talk a little today about space war defense. I am not in the audible telepathy business to say I-told-you-so when people die in events I attempted warn of, I am in this business to keep those people alive.
Sure, to be sure, I keep records of my failures. Sure, to be sure, I can prove my intelligence could have prevented the 911 attacks, even though your government pigs and media weasels think they have destroyed the evidence; but when it comes down to it I would rather have saved the day–and I would have expected to have turned a tidy profit in doing so–than to have seen those attacks successfully carried out.
So, I am tracking an event expected on Thursday. As I knew lower Manhattan was a target and commercial jets were the weapon within forty-eight hours before World Trade Center attacks, I am expecting a similar level of intelligence in this case.
The situations are much the same, except I am not under as severe attack from neighbors now as I was then, neighbors then who would eventually put me into the hospital with congestive heart failure, repeatedly telling me they wanted to torture me to death.
I remind you of this because this is important, and those people must be arrested, charged and tried for torture with intent to murder if I am ever going to come close to being on your side.
You may think at this time that you don’t want me on your side, but that will change.
But the subject is defense. As I tell you what I am about to tell you, understand this is a fluid situation for me; the pieces of this puzzle are likely not to come together until soon before the event.
For example, my first choice of the target at this time is the San Francisco Bay area, but this is not confirmed, it is only educated conjecture.
I have still not ruled out an earthquake and I have still not ruled out a nuclear bomb, but when I look at the two code lines I told you about yesterday, aircraft crashes and earthquakes, my first choice of event at this time is an earth-shaking aircraft crash.
Perhaps the government pigs and media weasels have kept this from you, but I have documented well over a dozen commercial airline crashes, some considered accidental and some known to have been intentional, since I became audibly telepathic over thirty years ago.
One of those documentations was the intentional crashing of a commercial jet very near the California city where I now live, Atascadero; documented in a classified ad, in advance of course, in the Atascadero News.
I am saying here that I am better at documenting airline crashes than Babe Ruth was at hitting home runs.
So, as we brainstorm this, you and I, let’s assume we are tracking an earth-shaking aircraft crash in a coastal California city on or about June 23.
Let’s say two things would make this event “earth-shaking”. One would be that the plane was intentionally crashed; the other would be that a very famous and deeply loved person was on board.
I am not very aware of who is both famous and loved these days, so I will go back in time for an example. Say Elvis Presley was on board, or Marilyn Monroe, or John F. Kennedy or Micky Mouse…you get the idea.
Of course we all know we can count on Homeland Security to defend us against the intentional crashing of aircraft, so I will speak to the defense of the famous and beloved person.
If my words could reach such people I would suggest to them that if they have plans to fly in or out of a West Coast city, particularly a California city, particularly a Bay Area city. on or about June 23, I would change those plans.
Extending this concept, I would suggest the same for anybody who is loved by anybody and whose death in an airline crash would be Earth-shaking to those who love them.
Now, this being the United States of America where life is cheap and money is watered down like gin in a crooked gin joint, Americans will not respect me unless I make a profit from my business.
So, if you happen to be a person who, on my suggestion, does not fly commercial on the days and into the cities I have noted, and if the plane you would have been on crashes, send me a check for what you think my intelligence was worth: Virgil Kret, P.O. Box 43, Morro Bay, California 93443.
2005-06-20 09:06:21
Sunday, June 19, 2005
Like a dream of grasped straws/ America would have me/ In sad awakening
Expecting The Blast in Four Days
We are expecting a major American West Coast disaster on or about June 23; we are expecting simultaneous Judaism/Christianity/Islam disasters on or about July 4; we are expecting our Earth to be dead by late 2064 or early 2065…
June 20th, 2005 at 6:41 pmI had heard both Cheney and Rice use terms like “multi-generational” and “50 year war” when talking about Iraq before it was invaded. What bothered me about that then and now was how casual they were about this.
June 20th, 2005 at 8:01 pmI like Condoleeza Rice, I think she’s making a good point – its not really that we stay there for 100 years or whatever a generation is, she’s acting as a diplomat here and basically saying – “Hey, lets stand by them even after things quiet down”. There are some victories out there, some things that give you hope and what we need to do is encourage our boys over there to be
fighting smart and picking targets and
being good soldiers right in the middle of a
“black hawk down”. I think Dr. Rice is right-on.
Theres no lie here. She’s telling the truth.
Cheney estimating it would be over by now, is
just idiocy tho. He was way, waaaay off.
Rice deserves a break. She’s being
taken out of context here. She’s trying
to encourage the Iraqis that are standing
up and trying to quell some very nasty
ugliness over there, and I stand by her
here as well. Take a look at her work last
week to end child slavery. She’s cool.
Cheney. Thats another story.
June 20th, 2005 at 10:21 pmMs. Rice is just confirming what is well known inside the Beltway, i.e., that the U.S. has made a multi-generational commitment to secure the safety of Israel, no matter what might be the costs to America. No economic constraints, no limits to methods of interrogation, no international laws are to stand in the way of the maintenance of the security of Israel. And as the Peak Oil arrives, no limits to amount of force necessary to secure a Greater Israel and thus to secure permanent access to the world’s richest source of energy will be allowed. It’s the least we can do for our super-patriotic neocons who have only the best interests of Israel … I mean, Western Civilization, at heart.
June 20th, 2005 at 10:32 pmI thought after four-plus years of stolen elections, illegal wars based on lies and poor planning, and disgusting foreign and domestic policy, this administration could no longer shock me with what it said or did. “GENERATIONAL COMMITTMENT”?!? The sad part is, I had a feeling all along this would be the case, but to have Dr. Rice use double speak to trick us into believing that was always the policy is nauseating. I am so embarrassed for my country right now.
June 21st, 2005 at 12:17 amIf you look at the beginning of Nazi Germany and the Bush Administration, they are very similiar. They both took over their countries as a result of terrorism. They invaded other countries. Not only Iraq but Afganistan. I find it too coincidental that a mega pipeline is being built through Afganistan. ALso how the Euro is no longer being traded for oil in Iraq not to mention the oil reserves. I think if the average person really knew what was going on, most would impeach Bush for the lies and deceptions. Not only killing american lives, but the hundred of thousands of lives lost in this “war on terrorism”. I would truly love to see Bush end up the same way as Mousilini. It sickens me to see my country wearing the “black hat”.
June 21st, 2005 at 12:41 amI think there are plenty of valid criticisms to be made against this Administration without the ridicoulous Nazi comparissons. You not only weaken your argument, but you cheapen the experience of those who actually suffered through Nazism with your inane comments.
June 21st, 2005 at 9:09 amI’m afraid there is only one way the American people will get their country back and I don’t think it will be at the election booth. There were 4 years to prepare for the last stolen election and these bast@rds are still raping our country. After everything else they have done over the last five years, I thought the bankrupcy bill would be enough to push people over the edge, but no. However, when the bast@rds push through their theft of Social Security, and I fully believe they will, that will be enough, it will be the last straw. The violence will start. The people won’t be fighting their government as much as they will be fighting the corporate entity.
June 21st, 2005 at 10:13 amEverybody just calm down. The insurgency is in it’s last throes. I’m still going to ask the yellow elephants to enlist since recruitment is so low.
June 21st, 2005 at 10:55 amI would like to reply to Darlene Costner, who contributed comment #39 … I am paraphrasing… Impeaching Bush means putting Cheney in charge … Please follow this link http://www.veteransforpeace.org/impeachment/impeach_letter.doc
June 21st, 2005 at 2:03 pmand you will see that the Veterans for Peace are calling for the removal of Bush and Cheney simultaneously. Two chickenhawks with one stone.
Get back on track guys. Forget the talk of violence, it will play right into their hands. Go with the street signs, add in a campaign to honk your car horns every day at 12:00 exactly, try and get as much awareness happenning as you possibly can.
Mr Moore – ONLY YOU have a chance of getting this organized. YOU need to use the power that people ALL OVER THE WORLD have given you to make this happen, but please be careful, they won’t like it, and there’s every chance that they will retalliate if you get too much attention.
A question: Is it really true that Bush’s grandaddy, Prescott, was involved in the financing of Hitler through to 1942?
If so, then before long, Bush-America is going to make Nazi-Germany look like a nice place to visit.
June 21st, 2005 at 2:06 pmJay said,” Unfortunately, the nation has spoken (by a 51% majority).
Please, do NOT grant the Republicans the give-up line that they won the election! They RIGGED the election! There are not two correct opinions about this, and science and common sense both point to the all-but certain conclusion that Bush did not win either the electoral college or the popular vote.
I’d also like to bring up the $4M (?) presentation at the Pentagon (now THAT’S a DEMO!), in July of ‘01, that included a threat of hijackers crashing the plane into the Pentagon.
Remeber Rice saying,
” To the best of my knowledge, Mr. Chairman, this kind of analysis about the use of airplanes as weapons actually was never briefed to us. ”
Guess she was preoccupied with having her hair done for the fundraiser that evening.
June 21st, 2005 at 6:32 pmYou got to admit….Condi follows the party line..and spins and spins a story …(.just like Emperior Dumb-ya said) until you can “catapult the propaganda” a ” Generational Commitment” is to assure Condi’s bussiness associates such a Exxon/Mobil…the cyborg,,,Cheney’s (no heart…just an oil pump in his chest) Halliburton…and other oil service companies…that (if and when) we “secure” Iraq…that they’ll be guaranteed the running of of the country’s oil fields..and let’s see…it should take about 25 years or so to pump the oil out..and ….Just like Emperior Dumb-ya’s comment about “planting the seeds of democracy” in Iraq….in other words…while we’re trying to secure the country’s oil for “democracy”… the war profiteers…defense contratcors..the K Street/Wall Street lobbyist…ect…will make a ton of money!… well…at least in Iraq…(and the regon) for … wow..! again about 25 years or better…! That’s a prety good return..! A win win situation for this gang…they don’t have to serve in the military…and they make a “killing”..too bad Condi and company… don’t make the same “generational commitment” to the troops …they’re asked to sacafice the most..and have the least to lose ( as far as wealth and status is concerned )…what about them Condi…?or are you going to use them up, wear them out.. and make them do…? You and the rest of your policy makers better figure out how to keep the military from being broken…otherwise you ain’t going to make any “generational commitments” to anyone…! These are the “Americans” you should care about who have that terrible job to do..have a “commitment to the generation” of troops who are serving now…! ( the same for the troops fighting in the Afghan War) Anybody who follows this mess knows that they’re getting screwed..!
June 21st, 2005 at 6:47 pmOf course the republican election slogan will be much different in ‘08:
FOUR MORE DECADES!(of war)
FOUR MORE DECADES!
June 22nd, 2005 at 5:34 amThey day will come when the entire bush administration will have to pay for the crimes they have commited. The people should not and will not give up until they stand trial for the damage they have caused to this great country.
June 22nd, 2005 at 2:09 pmSadly, this is the problem with the US media, they just let the administration officials do and say what ever they want to without reporting about it or questioning it.
Take a look at the book:
http://www.noquestionsasked.org
On how the media activley or passivly supported the distribution of lies from the administration.
Let us know what you think about the book.
June 22nd, 2005 at 2:52 pm/FA
If anyone is doubtful about this nation turning fascist, all they have to do is look to see how the NSDAP “democratically” changed the Weimar Republic’s from one supporting freedom to one supporting fascism. They called it the “Ermaechtigungsgesetz” (Enabling Law) and we call it “The Patriot Act.” And it all began with the control of the press. Our Joseph Goebbles is Karl Rove.
June 26th, 2005 at 11:20 amYeah, I´ve read a couple of “Nazi” -allegations and almost as many guys who felt “disturbed” by that – by the way the last time someone introduced the “prevantive war doctrine” on a large scale (before Bush three years ago) was Hitler reasoning that the attack on Poland was mere selfdefence – and Stalin who took the other half and shortly after that “liberated the Baltic Republics”… They were both cheered by the masses. Wake up, America!
P.S. And by the way – this is not a Hollywood movie and the naive hopes, that the Bush administration will ever “have to pay for their crimes” is just a happy-end-wishful-thinking…
June 28th, 2005 at 4:36 amAt least she said “I think.”
June 29th, 2005 at 1:07 pmthe over 500,00 signatures shows that america wants answers about the Downing St Memo. i was one of those signatures. but, of course, no answers from the white house. more importantly, what about the answers for what hit the Pentagon on 9/11 cause lord knows that was no commercial airliner.
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