In 1999, Bush Demanded A Timetable
In 1999, George W. Bush criticized President Clinton for not setting a timetable for exiting Kosovo, and yet he refuses to apply the same standard to his war.
George W. Bush, 4/9/99:
“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”
And on the specific need for a timetable, here’s what Bush said then and what he says now:
George W. Bush, 6/5/99
“I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”
[ed. note: article originally ran in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer on 6/5/99]
VERSUS
George W. Bush, 6/24/05:
“It doesn’t make any sense to have a timetable. You know, if you give a timetable, you’re — you’re conceding too much to the enemy.”
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Even worse: The shrub hasn’t made it clear that he even WANTS to exit… EVER. In today’s New York Times, John Kerry once again highlights the importance of declaring our intentions regarding permanent military bases.
http://nytimes.com/ 2005/ 06/ 28/ opinion/ 28kerry.html?pagewanted=print
June 28th, 2005 at 9:44 amDarth… thanks for that link! It is amazing how much more Presidential (not to mention reasoned, thoughtful, meaningful) that is than anything that could ever come from the shrub…
June 28th, 2005 at 10:21 amBut…but….that was before 9/11! It changed everything!
I’m not really sure how, actually, but that’s what they keep telling me.
June 28th, 2005 at 10:23 amDo the Democrats want to exit? Or is the party on a short leash with the Israel lobby?
June 28th, 2005 at 10:30 amFaiz - you are the man. has this been reported in any papers yet? how could the media so blind and lazy.
June 28th, 2005 at 10:35 amCarl, I guess it depends what Democrat you’re referring too. Since they don’t play the Republican game of “we are of one monolithic voice” there are dissenting opinions and political interests at stake. If you ask Joe Lieberman, you get the Israeli lobby perspective, if you ask Ted Kennedy it’s lets not make the same mistakes that we made with Vietnam and get out while it’s still (relatively) early and save soldiers lives. Then we have every conceivable opinion in between.
June 28th, 2005 at 10:38 amn Bush’s “autobiography,” Karen Hughes writes of Bush’s senior year at Yale:
“My inclination was to support the [United States] government and the [Vietnam] war until proven wrong, and that only came later, as I realized we could not explain the mission, had no exit strategy, and did not seem to be fighting to win.”
Well, there are three things he can give us, tonight. An explanation of the mission that’s more than “spreading freedom” and “staying on the offense.” Those are platitudes, not a mission statement. Explain how our continued presence in Iraq is directly, concretely, specifically in our national interest. Exit strategy? First, confirm that we are, indeed, exiting. Then explain how, specifically, we are going to build up an Iraqi army to leave behind, what it will look like, and how it will be armed. Will there be an Iraqi Air Force? Coast Guard? Who’s gonna pay for all this and how long will it take, period? As for fighting to win, I noted three and one-half years ago that no one in this Administration was defining “victory.” If it was “disarming Saddam” we’d done it before the war, and now we’ve confirmed it and it’s time for the tickertape parades. If it’s something more than that, well, let’s get specific.
I won’t stay up nights waiting for clarity, transparency, from George on this matter.
June 28th, 2005 at 10:43 amAs Leonard Cohen said, “A scheme is not a plan.”
June 28th, 2005 at 11:02 amI love the way thinkprogress gathers quotes and shows the world what hypocrits and liars the “Administration” is.
June 28th, 2005 at 11:07 amGood job, your work cannot be disputed!
Pointing out hypocrisy in this administration is shooting fish in a barrel. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone here digs up a quote by Karl Rove suggesting therapy for our enemies.
June 28th, 2005 at 11:11 amBush does not know how long it will take to adequately train an Iraqi force. That is the timetable, and any halfway competent beurocrat could calculate it.
June 28th, 2005 at 11:13 amWhat I want to know is: Do Bush,Rumsfeld or Rice, BRR for short, know what are the criteria, specifics, taht tell us the Iraq war is over? Traditional war ends, if I remember it’s been such a long time, with a peace treaty. What are the public manifestations to tell us and the world,a ha, it is over?
If these questions cannot or will not be answered then the Hawk Team is whistling Dixie. That whistling scares me as in their minds, there is no end!
June 28th, 2005 at 11:13 amPolitical expedience is GWB’s middle name. The only thing he believes is that God chose him to be preznit.
June 28th, 2005 at 11:21 am“If you ask Joe Lieberman, you get the Israeli lobby perspective…”
Hmm.
June 28th, 2005 at 11:24 amBush told us the war was over two years ago. You want him to tell us again?
Traditionally, occupation happens after the enemy is defeated. Except of course in well-documented military blunders throughout history.
June 28th, 2005 at 11:30 amJust look at the $’s baby:
http://www.washington-report.org/aipac/
June 28th, 2005 at 11:32 amHey, CNN’s interactive vote today is asking if we support President Bush’s handling of the Iraq War. Please go to CNN.com and vote. Don’t bother with their news. It’s just a modified Entertainment Tonight.
June 28th, 2005 at 11:32 amIraq is a bloody mess now
http://news.independent.co.uk/ world/ middle_east/ story.jsp?story=650186
and
BushCo likes it that way - the more insurgents the better for BushCo - war means profits - BushCo is probably arming both sides already through fronts and CIA and covert this and that - everyone gets to have guns and shut em up while the people die from thirst and heat.
The only honor is in withdrawing immediately.
June 28th, 2005 at 11:38 amKindness
June 28th, 2005 at 11:43 amI won’t vote in the CNN poll because the wording of the question limits the issue to whether you approve/disapprove of his handling of the war. It doesn’t allow you to vote on whether you approve disapprove of the war. I refuse to participate in polls that draw your focus away from the real issue - the war is illegal and immoral.
George Bush words should not be used against him. He can always plead mental incompetence.
Too bad he didn’t lawyer up with the ACLU…
June 28th, 2005 at 11:53 amThese quotes from Bushie himself proves to the world that he cannot even take his own advice. He is a puppet and he has admitted to being one.
OUR PRESIDENT IS A PUPPET!
June 28th, 2005 at 11:57 amMr. Murder
June 28th, 2005 at 11:57 amBush is not incompetent. He’s just a good actor. He’s the up and coming pin-striped mafia don who has made a serious mistake and the family is now gathering in Kennebunkport (Bush Sr, Clinton, et al) to figure out how to extricate the boy don from the mess he’s made. Yes they want hiim to make them millions through war profiteering but he overplayed his hand and his gang is out of control -
Kay Bailey Hutchinson on August 1, 2000:
“I don’t think Governor Bush as President would put our troops in harm’s way ad infinitum and certainly with no exit strategy.”
and
“What many of us have disagreed with the Clinton/Gore administration about is that there is no progress. There is no strategy.”
George W. Bush on August 3, 2000:
“Our military is low on parts, pay and morale. If called on by the commander-in-chief today, two entire divisions of the Army would have to report … Not ready for duty, sir.”
June 28th, 2005 at 12:04 pmOK, well I would have voted for Ann Richards over Kay Hutchinson any day. But then again, I don’t live in TX.
June 28th, 2005 at 12:47 pmHold Bush’s Feet to the Fire.
Ask him to be more specific when he says a tietable helps the enemy. How, exactly?
I think that is absolutely wrong, by the way.
June 28th, 2005 at 1:00 pmI can’t find the article in the Seattle P-I’s archive, and I can’t find it on Nexis. Is there a good source for this?
June 28th, 2005 at 1:02 pmWatch for no timetable at all tonight, or ever, because “victory” isn’t the goal in Iraq, but rather occupation itself.
There’s a whole dynamic buried beneath the rhetoric. (It’s ironic that Kerry’s one of the few to acknowledge it.) The goal is NEVER to leave Iraq.
Bush can’t even acknowledge the #1 cause of the insurgency, because he can’t even acknowledge exactly his motive that’s causing it.
He’s got a timetable. “Forever.”
June 28th, 2005 at 1:13 pmJTH,
I think you are dead on. During the run-up to the war the conservatives were so proud of Colin Powell’s comments about a long-term occupation and how we only ever ask for enough soil to bury our dead in the nations in which we fight (something to that effect). It sounded nice, but tell it to the Germans and the Koreans. Long-term occupation is necessary if we are to manage the “geopolitical resources”……if you know what I mean.
June 28th, 2005 at 1:19 pmCheck out a speech that will never see the light of day:
June 28th, 2005 at 1:33 pmhttp://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/062805a.html
It’s easy to say that the war should be ended… but how? Exactly whom do we sign a treaty with?
As for the time table, let me give you a simple analogy: if you post a sign that says the Bank Guards leave at 6 pm, when will the robbers strike.
In short, while you should have an exit plan, you shouldn’t announce it to the public. You, little ones, don’t need to know, since the enemy would probably find out if you were told.
Next Question: What do you foresee happening in Iraq if we left tomorrow? Would that be good or bad for the people of Iraq?
Final Question: Do you really, really believe that the world has not changed for America since 9/11? Really?
June 28th, 2005 at 1:46 pmReally?
The exit strategy will be in 2008 when Bush leaves to white house, then someone else will have to clean up the mess.
June 28th, 2005 at 1:50 pmHey Larry, that’s ironic, cause that’s the strategy for the economy too.
Hey Jay, of course. Among the numerous elephants in the room, it’s the one that dwarfs all the others.
June 28th, 2005 at 1:54 pmA history of the Iraq war’s exit strategy can be found here:
http://www.donhodges.com/Iraq_exit_strategy.html
June 28th, 2005 at 2:12 pmJWB wanted a citation and verification for this quote. Check out the New York Times, 4/9/99, at p. A14:
“At first, Mr. Bush preferred not to wade into the most nettlesome issue of the day, the crisis in Yugoslavia. He refused to say whether President Clinton’s policies had been sound. Again and again, he stuck to the same line, “He’d better have a clear exit strategy.”"
June 28th, 2005 at 2:42 pmwait a second . . . time-table??? i don’t recall any time table being mentioned after 9/11 when there was talk of fighting terrorism– in fact the impression that i got was that we would be fighting terrorism for decades– and it seems that all of america was ready to kick butt with our bilbe in one hand and our flag in the other–however, i think george bush sr. and jr. were very aware that we were going to be attacked (9/11) and they stood by watching and waiting for this excuse to go to war with iraq– the american people are continually played for fools–
June 28th, 2005 at 2:44 pmuh-huh– bible
June 28th, 2005 at 2:45 pmPNAC proved to me that the neo-cons were only too willing to go to war for any excuse. They waited a few years and finally, lo and behold, 9/11 fell into their laps. I bet they had the biggest circle jerk when that happened.
June 28th, 2005 at 2:56 pmNot just this quote but you guys should look into what Bush said in the 2000 debate v. Al Gore about the topic of “nation Building” and how he said that because of the Kosovo war, the troops “were overextended”. He said that and Cheney said that moral was low because the “troops were overextended” in the Balkans. There are lots of quotes like this one! Perhaps we need a full list of Bush Flip-Flops!
June 28th, 2005 at 3:05 pmCite for the above quoatation for “timetable” is actually in the New York Times on June 6, 1999 at p. 15, Section 1.
June 28th, 2005 at 3:06 pmThe quotes are bogus. Can’t be found anywhere. Can anybody else? Were the quotes lifted from an interview on CNN’s Inside Politics? Can’t find that either. But I did find this:
June 28th, 2005 at 3:10 pmGovernor Bush supported the Clinton administration’s use of force in Kosovo last year. And last week, when some congressional Republicans wanted to establish a deadline for removing US troops from Kosovo, Bush questioned the move, saying it would tie his hands if he became president.
Source: Boston Globe, p. A41 May 25, 2000
It just keeps on coming
Lies: WMDs, War as a last resort, we have enough troops, Saddam allied with Al Qaeda, the insurgency’s “last throes.”
June 28th, 2005 at 3:13 pmAnd now, via Political Wire and Think Progress, more lies from George W. Bush:
In 1999, George W. Bush criticized…
way off topic, but skippy has a timetable, too!
listen to skippy the bush kangaroo’s radio interview on wrfl, the univ. of kentucky’s station, by ben carter of bluegrassroots.org.
skippy waxes befuddled on a number of subjects, including but not limited to, a mangled explanation of the downing street memos, ayn rand, putting christ back into christianity, half a masturbation joke, why blogging is important but not as important as the information itself (same goes for the main stream press), gov. ah-nold, black box voting, and the site’s co-bloggers!
help skippy reach a million visitors by his third blogiversary on july 10! click away today!
June 28th, 2005 at 3:14 pmYes. He said it.
June 28th, 2005 at 3:16 pmThanks MMC!
June 28th, 2005 at 3:16 pmSo what your saying, Steed, is that setting a deadline for withdrawing our troops realy isn’t a security issue. It’s one of control for Bush?
His objection wasn’t that it would give the Serbs (in that case) the ability to “wait us out,” it was because he didn’t want to have his hands tied.
Also, he opposed a Congressional mandate setting a deadline. Not President Clinton setting a deadline.
So, that doesn’t actually contradict Bush’s earlier quote at all.
Nothing prevents Bush from setting a dealine for withdrawal from Iraq, except President Bush and politics.
June 28th, 2005 at 3:21 pmYour all wrong……..And you know it……
June 28th, 2005 at 3:27 pmThe issue isnt when will we get out..Its why the hell did we go in the first place.. THAT ALONE is the only question that need be asked. Anyone asking anything else is hiding the fact that deep down inside themselves they question the true intentions of this war. i cant believe that . Everyone needs to wake up, look between the lines that are being SHOWN to us ………we are all in serious trouble. Anyone reading this should at least consider this.
“Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar. “
June 28th, 2005 at 3:32 pmGotta start somewhere, right, right?
June 28th, 2005 at 3:35 pmGOOFUS A PUPPET ?
I need an explanation.
Bush goes forth to speak before groups almost daily.
But, it is like a Salesman calling on a customer who has a year’s supply of the product.
Bush is “preaching to his choir”
They have alredy signed a contract to buy anything he is selling.
So, Why is he wasting so much time?
It is not PR jobs. No one gets info on the sermons to his choir.
I estimate he has been away fronm the White House about 2/3 of work days.
Is it Rove? Is it Cheney? Is it Rove and Cheney?
Is there something about him they want to hide.
Are there decisions they want to keep from him?
Think about it.
SOMETHING IS AMISS.
clarence swinney
June 28th, 2005 at 3:37 pmpolitical historian
burlington nc
http://www.cwswinney@netzero.net
You want quotes?
For those who want to sit on the sidelines while the war on terror is fought:
“The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. ”
Dante Alighieri
June 28th, 2005 at 3:38 pmAs for what we should believe in Dim Son’s speechifyin’ this evening, I’ll quote singer/songwriter John Martyn from his song Glorious Fool - which could be ABOUT Shrub if it hadn’t been written in the late ’70’s or so …
To wit: “Half the lies he tells you are not true.”
June 28th, 2005 at 3:39 pmWe need to look at an exit strategy since we already there and need to find a way out, ASAP. That should not detract from looking at the deceptions of what got us there in the first place.
June 28th, 2005 at 3:57 pmAnother Martyn track, “John Wayne” describes the untreated alchoholic rage and “egophrenia that Dubya is inflicting on us all “to a T”
June 28th, 2005 at 4:02 pmHe’s worse than a liar, he’s a FLIP-FLOPPER!
June 28th, 2005 at 4:05 pmI bet he’s cursing Karl today.. no mid-day bike ride he has to memorize the speech (best he can before he looks at it all in front of him and with the ear feed)
Up past bed time
he’s missing baseball.
What a night.
oh, could we get more details of the bombs dropped “before” we went to war, too please because I am curious.
June 28th, 2005 at 4:25 pmhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/ article/ 0,,2087-1669640,00.html
right, right. Probably one of the real reasons for the war in the first place was the liberation of iraqi oil. Think about it: with China buying up supplies at any price and most of the oil-producing countries pumping at or near capacity, a situation was created where a small fluctuation in supply could create oil prices to spike dangerously high.. so, the country with the second largest (untapped b/c sanctions, underdevelopment etc) oil supplies on the globe is: iraq.
June 28th, 2005 at 4:34 pmget iraq’s supplies on the market and the price will come down.
bush is an oil man, he knows this. think-tanks told him this.
too bad the administration completely screwed it up…
I predict he’ll try to cry tonight. His greatest skill is emotional manipulation.
June 28th, 2005 at 5:03 pmThe Strategy is: 40% of America is watching Trading Spouses, 10% are dumber than dirt, just use words like “Confidant!” and phrases like “It’s hard work” and “progress” and “hope”,and they’ll feel we are winning. The masses who don’t read, get their reality from what they are told.
June 28th, 2005 at 5:44 pmThis is the propaganda technique called
Glittering Generalities
Entertainment, propaganda, propatainment!
June 28th, 2005 at 6:19 pm[…] eeding and where we are in implementing that strategy. While chewing on that think about this George W. Bush, 4/9/99: “Victory means exit strategy, and itâ […]
June 28th, 2005 at 6:24 pmI guess “W” will gitmo’ money out of this, if nothing else. Hey, living here in Austin TX means we have to put with Bush jr. (Rick Perry). Hopefully, we’ll be the ones saying “adios mofo” to him.
June 28th, 2005 at 7:59 pm[…] ong they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.â€? [Seattle Post Intelligencer, 6/5/99] Filed Under: Iraq Po […]
June 28th, 2005 at 8:19 pmIt’s nice to see Americans finally wake up to Bush. As a Brit I’m disgusted that our Prime Minister Tony Blair ever got involved with George W. (Forrest Gump) Bush. 9/11 was a terrible tragedy to befall America, and it’s citizens. But Bush, and his cohorts cannot blame it on Iraq at every opportunity. As we keep asking ourselves in Britain ‘what is Blair doing attaching himself to Bush’?
June 28th, 2005 at 9:35 pmwhat do you think???
http://www.reopen911.org/9-11%20plan%201976.htm
June 28th, 2005 at 9:40 pmI’ve been waiting for this story. I can’t remember how many times I heard bush said “exit stragety”.
June 28th, 2005 at 10:09 pmImpeach Bush!!
[…] pleting the mission they are risking their lives to achieve. Wait a minute. What has Bush previously said about timetables? April 1999 - “Victory means exit […]
June 29th, 2005 at 12:20 am[…] e contend that we should set a deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces. “And I’m one of those people.” Re: Clinton’s war in Koso […]
June 29th, 2005 at 3:56 amForget “exit.” This is NOT ABOUT exit. It is about a permanent base and it is only phase #2 (#1 was Afghanistan). Iran is next. Ladies and Gentleman, please welcome: a new and far less kinder Imperial America,
June 29th, 2005 at 4:41 amoverseen - for show only; we know who pull “Jerry Mahoney’s” strings - by a comparative fool from Crawford, Texas…where them there good ol’boys know a thing or two about that there “Texas tea” (which, as my generation learned via the Beverly Hillbillies theme song, is “black gold,” or, speaking plainly, OIL). There will be Pax Americana but only at the time of “our” choosing.
The GW hypocrisy/flip-flop began long before the invasion of Iraq:
From http://www.issues2000.org/George_W__Bush_Kosovo.htm
“Any US forces involved must be under US or NATO command. The President should also lay out a timetable for how long American troops will be involved and when they will be removed.”
Source: GeorgeWBush.com/News/ “Kosovo Accord� Jun 4, 1999
“And last week, when some congressional Republicans wanted to establish a deadline for removing US troops from Kosovo, Bush questioned the move, saying it would tie his hands if he became president.”
June 29th, 2005 at 1:44 pmSource: Boston Globe, p. A41 May 25, 2000
There’s simply no way for Bush to do anything right in your opinion…. Bush said timetable in 1999. You said he doesn’t listen to his allies…. Well, back in July 2000, after examining the situation, and talking to our allies, he said “…U.S. military will stay until both the allies and the United States believe the job is finished So, now he’s a flipflopper?
By the way, no one has yet stated what they think America should do, in response to my post above
July 25, 2001 Posted: 3:42 PM EDT (1942 GMT)
ROME, Italy (CNN) — President Bush arrived back in Washington from Kosovo on Tuesday after telling cheering U.S. peacekeeping troops they and allied forces “came in [to Kosovo] together and we will leave together.”
Bush said during his election campaign he would speedily remove U.S. troops from the Balkans and press Europe to take up the slack — a position criticized by the allies. He now says U.S. military will stay until both the allies and the United States believe the job is finished.
June 29th, 2005 at 2:04 pmHey Lokki, when will the job be finished?
June 29th, 2005 at 4:01 pmLokkki: With respect to your “what should America do?” post, the answer is not obvious. Leaving will almost certainly lead to generalized war in the Mid East. So of course Bush’s strategy is self-reinforcing. He knew that once he was there, people like you would happily overlook the illogic of his invasion, since for you “9/11 changed the world”. I guess changing the world means attacking people who never harmed you and greatly increasing the misery of their lives while stealing their oil, while doing nothing effective to protect us at home or improve our own lives. Stop pretending you’re on Superman’s side. It’s offensive.
And Lokki, with regard to your Dante quote, I am most definitely not on the sidelines. I’m just not on *your* side. So leave your condescension at the door, “little one”.
June 29th, 2005 at 4:11 pmPop Quiz
What kind of America-hating, terrorist-coddling, liberal reactionary would possibly make statements like these?
June 29th, 2005 at 5:33 pmWhat a bunch of wacked out idiots. I have never seen so much hate. You liberals wanted this war to go badly so it would make you look good. I guess your celebrating over every dead soldier. Be careful what you wish for.
JP
June 29th, 2005 at 6:53 pmJP….just one more ignoramus heard from. Try not to confuse hate with the truth, Republicans have a problem with that. If you have something specific you’d like to comment on, I’m sure you’d get lots of informed responses. Fire away.
June 29th, 2005 at 8:52 pmAs someone who is British I never understand why people in America with right-wing political views hate people who are perceived to be ‘liberals’. In Britain our equivalent of the Republican Party is The Conservative Party. They have many right-wing leaning politicians in their ranks. They have the nickname of ‘The Nasty Party’ because of their moralistic views and their politics.
They’re seen as a predominately white, middle to a upper class party. The people of Britain haven’t voted them into power since 1997, because times have changed, the political landscape has changed and Britain has changed for the better. But The Conservative Party never does, and doesn’t seem to want to.
Being ‘liberal’ in this country means you care about what is going on around you, and for the suffering of individuals. I’d rather be known as someone who is ‘liberal’ in his or her views, than a right-wing nut job.
“If your not with us, your against us”. No Mr. Bush I just don’t agree with your bullyboy politics.
‘The freedom of speech’. It seems that in America that a person can have the freedom of speech, just as long as anybody’s opinions don’t differ from that of Mr. Bush’s political ideologies. How can America choose a President, who can’t even put a sentence together coherently?
June 29th, 2005 at 8:56 pmThis is for Lokki and JP and anyone else who voted Republican in the last two elections. It’s this simple: George Bush lied; thousands died. He lied. And sent more than 1,700 American soldiers to their deaths along with countless Iraqis. How many amputees has George Bush welcomed back to the homeland? How many has he visited in the hospital — oh, yeah, he ‘underestimated’ how much the VA would cost this year. That man and the men and women of that “Administration” have committed immoral, despicable, murderous acts. And still the word “impeachment” never passes the lips of America’s “independent press.” If there is any integrity in the Republican Party, and I see no signs of such, its leaders would renounce the radical right and call for the end of this Administration. At this point, Republicans are the greatest threat to the Constitution and to America’s safety. And Lokki and JP, Evangelical Christians were recently investigated for conducting unconstitutional and deliberate acts of coercion upon Air Force Academy Cadets. The whitewash that the Air Force gave its investigation fools no one — the Republicans are working toward a fascist theocracy. And you’re helping. Wake up before you destroy us all.
June 30th, 2005 at 12:37 amConcerned Citizen
Did the Roman Empire had an exit strategy from Gothic lands or from Britain? Of course not. The US is in that imperial phase, in which it will try a ‘mad dash’ for Global Hegemony and Iraq is only a part of it. The exit,- with or without strategy,- will happen if:
June 30th, 2005 at 7:53 ama)the US is militarily defeated, or the continuation of fight is unsustainable.
b)The ‘imperial homeland’ collapses due to excess economic and/or social burden imposed by ‘imperial overstreach’.
Nick Caine, we did not elect George Bush. The election was stolen in 2000, AND in 2004, and we are now working hard to get the problems corrected. Better late than never.
Check this out:
Thanks for your comments about liberals. It’s a real vicious phobia to some Republicans. Largely a matter of semantics, I think, and Ignorance. Sad.
June 30th, 2005 at 7:26 pmRe: Bush’s call to Clinton for a Kosovo exit strategy and his own refusal to create one for Iraq: a bit of a flip-flop, isn’t it???
June 30th, 2005 at 7:29 pmI’m not in the least surprised, everything “Adolph” GW Bush has ever said has been either a lie or a hipocritical statement. Does anyone expect a lepord to change his spots
June 30th, 2005 at 8:30 pmI guess it just doesn’t matter to the MSM and Republicans, that Bush lies…doesn’t matter at all. They are all a bunch of hypocrites. And the Religious Wrong are a bunch of hypocrites, for overlooking Bush’s lies.
June 30th, 2005 at 10:21 pmThe only place on TV where I saw a news organization juxtapose all the past lies with the present contradictions was, sadly, Jon Stewart’s Daily Show News. Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
It should be the MSM doing this! Not Jon Stewart’s Daily Show News!
June 30th, 2005 at 10:22 pm[…] George Bush, 1999: “We need an exit strategy before going to war.” George Bush 2005: “I don’t believe in exit strategies.” […]
July 2nd, 2005 at 6:12 pmI watched the news this morning about the bombings in London. When will the people in this country realize that our President opened a hornets nest that has effected the entire world? I am not so concerned about the Supreme Court, although it is important, I am more concerned about winning the Senate back and probably gaing a few seats in the House to put a damper on this irrisponsible Administration.
July 7th, 2005 at 10:05 am[…] Hat tip Think Progress […]
July 14th, 2005 at 8:48 amI havefelt since he first ran for President that Georgie Boy was about 2 cards shy of a full deck. However, you have to admit that he and his cronies in Congress have been very sucessful inawarding their friends with giagantic amounts of our hard-earned “Taxpayer” dollars. Think Brown & Root and Betchel(plus VP Chaney who didn’t serve in Vietnam because he said “He had other priorities”). Also I have always wondered why Georgie is such a “WArhawk”, willing to send our sons and daughters, husbands and mothers to fight in a war when he was unwilling to go to Vietnam. I guess its always easier to send someone else that do it yourself, especially if you might get a bullet scar in your prescious hide or worse.
August 9th, 2005 at 12:59 am[…] It’s funny that Anchoress should mention Kosovo, though, because here is what her fearless leader, George Bush, had to say about using military option in the Balkans (from Think Progress): George W. Bush, 4/9/99: […]
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December 25th, 2005 at 11:59 am[…] Think Progress had an interesting pair of quotes from President G. W. Bush. What a difference being a president and 5 or 6 years makes… In 1999, George W. Bush criticized President Clinton for not setting a timetable for exiting Kosovo, and yet he refuses to apply the same standard to his war. […]
February 13th, 2006 at 3:52 pmThe concept of setting a timetable for withdrawal is a very simple one. You put together a list of stated goals and deadlines. You try to achieve them. The timetable is supposed to be constantly updated as goals are achieved. No one expects to have a strict deadline for exit. But we would like to see a plan, in addition to a steady report of progressions and setbacks. “Build ten schools in Baghdad by September 2006″ might be a nice place to start. But this administration is not showing the American people anything.
-Paul Ronco
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[…] Despite his past outlook on related matters (he seems to have a hard time making up his mind), President Bush and his cronies have continuously refused to set a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. […]
March 31st, 2006 at 4:03 am[…] Think Progress had the goods on this one a year ago here. “I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.” […]
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January 8th, 2007 at 11:30 am[…] A man of steadfast moral clarity: George W. Bush, 4/9/99: ?Victory means exit strategy, and it?s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is.? […]
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