Hope and Compassion on Fox News
By on Jul 8th, 2005 at 10:18 am
Hope and Compassion on Fox News
In response to the tragic terrorist attacks in London yesterday, President Bush promised the world, “We will spread an ideology of hope and compassion that will overwhelm their ideology of hate.”
Hours later, how did the right-wing talking heads of Fox News react?
Attack Europe. (Listen to the Heritage Foundation’s Nile Gardiner.)
Attack the liberal U.S. media. (Listen to Bill O’Reilly.)
Attack liberals. (Listen to Sean Hannity.)
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guess Hannity forgot the part about the dems backing Bush on the invasion of Afghanistan to capture Osama Bin Laden
July 8th, 2005 at 10:21 amI see profound confusion among many after attacks such as these.
Those that lash out at others (that didn’t perpetrate the attacks) and blame them for the attacks are acting like children. Unfortunately, it’s all to common with extremists in all camps.
Take heed at who you would point the finger at. Security at the cost of liberty means the terrorists have won. We need to find that delicate balance that the right wing talking heads listed above don’t care about at all.
Appropriate responses coupled with restraint don’t drive higher ratings is my guess.
July 8th, 2005 at 10:26 amHope and compassion? These words can’t be meant for the Iraqi people. Have you seen tapes of the nightime patrolls that target a city block? They break in and arrest every man and boy over 12 without just cause, take them from their families in the middle of the night, don’t tell them where they are going ,interrogate them and put them in prison(toture?, probably). Not to mention flatening a whole city. Can you imagine such a thing here in this country with you and yours?
July 8th, 2005 at 10:54 amWe are spreading alright, but not hope and compassion just manure.
What little men. Unable to actually generate decent conversation on the problem. Just blaming people. How funny.
Thanks to you folks for helping me out yesterday with the “Editors”. I checked out their website yesterday and realized they were nobodies who just post other writers and cannot actually think thoughtfully to discuss the issues that are at hand. I don’t believe they have actually read any government reports issued by official agencies, they seem more apt to take in what their famous talking heads spout out. That’s too bad for them. I won’t call them stupid, but I will let them know that they are ignorant and should do a little more reading. It helps to expand your vocabulary. Just because you keep repeating something doesn’t make it true.
I will take the time to read the Federalist Papers. Before I spout off about the intent of our founders, I will first actually read them. Boys, have you read them all?
Here is their big post about who the are:
http://www.federalistjournal.com/about.php
Read their web page. How weak. I think their “discussion” proved that yesterday.
It would be so much fun to actually put these yahoos on a stage and actually debate them, that is if they actually understand what a debate is and how it is conducted.
I am quite confident that I would absolutley crush them on a stage in front of an audience.
The challange has been thrown out boys. Anywhere, anytime, anyplace.
July 8th, 2005 at 11:07 amSpreading democracy is a dirty business, but somebody has to do it. We should start here at home, however. We need to kick in the doors of Nile Gardiner, Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity late some night, drag them screaming from their beds and interrogate them before we execute them. Sorry, just daydreaming of a perfect world. But we all know utopia doesn’t exist. We have to share it with morons like them here, and morons elsewhere who sow hate and blow shit up. Same morons, different clothes, languages, beliefs and methods.
July 8th, 2005 at 11:08 amI’m not up on all this shizzle, but I know people who are. I could all the details of their private lives, including minutiae like their shoe sizes by the end of the day. The name Jeff Gannon ring a bell?
http://www.whois.net/whois.cgi2?d=www.federalistjournal.com/
July 8th, 2005 at 11:16 amBut there spreading hope and compassion overseas so that, you know, they don’t have to do it here.
July 8th, 2005 at 11:42 amMy, how things have changed. Throw a little competition on the airways with a voice that does agree with the MSM and liberals get all upset. We should be lashing out at the terrorists but since many on the left have joined forces with them in denouncing everything the Bush administration is doing, I guess we really are.
July 8th, 2005 at 11:43 amHow interesting… The Federalist Journal tards list the same P.O. Box address as one used by Ventura County Superior Court Collections Unit in Simi Valley when registering their domain name. Not a good idea.
July 8th, 2005 at 11:44 amSpreading? What we are creating and is the new IRAQI Super Wal-Mart of petroleum.
July 8th, 2005 at 11:45 amThe boy wonder wants a backrub, Batman, to the batcave, quick.
July 8th, 2005 at 11:46 amHi!
July 8th, 2005 at 11:47 amLiberals? I thought these were progressives. Did I get lost again?
July 8th, 2005 at 11:48 amYou’re right, Batman. We should start by going after Osama Bin Laden. Porter Goss says he knows where he is. Any idea why our government seems to be so gung ho about fighting the terrorists but no longer seem interested in capturing their boss? What ever happened to wanted dead or alive?
July 8th, 2005 at 11:49 amGood idea Steed. Get lost.
July 8th, 2005 at 11:55 amBatman, are you admitting that Fox is an arm of the GOP and that they are completely one-sided in their reporting?
I guess that is a start.
July 8th, 2005 at 11:57 amThe “truth” and “reality” are progressive ideas to your kind.
July 8th, 2005 at 12:01 pmMNSasquatch,
I’ll admit to that when you agree that the NY Times, CBS and every other form of liberal-biased media are beating the drum for the democratic party.
July 8th, 2005 at 12:10 pmConservatives? Thought this was a progressive site. Go get lost Stewed.
July 8th, 2005 at 12:11 pmBatman, you idiot! Progressives! Go to DU and yell at the democrats.
July 8th, 2005 at 12:16 pmBatman-
I’ll admit to that when you agree that you, conservative shills and every other form of right-wing echo chamber mouthpieces are continually beating the drum that the media has liberal bias.
July 8th, 2005 at 1:00 pmButman,
I think your leotards are on a little too tight, seems to be cutting off the circulation to the brain. NY Times? Liberal? Judith Miller?
Right. What other forms of liberal media? The radio signals of Rush being corrected as they pass thru your tinfoil hat? Better check the “Bat” decoder.
Quick! To the bat-keyboard!
July 8th, 2005 at 1:07 pmAnyone who doesn’t believe that there is a certain level of liberal media bias in this country had better take off their beer goggles. Everyday, all you read in the paper and see on tv are negative and slanted reports on how the Bush administration is handling the war on terror, economy, etc. I would like to enlighten some of you as to how wrong you are, but most of you just need to grow up and realize that what your professors taught you was wrong. Welcome to the real world!
July 8th, 2005 at 1:17 pmThink on your own for a change, man-who-wants-to-be-batman. You recite that crap verbatim. Its damn near plagerism!
July 8th, 2005 at 1:27 pmBatman…you wouldn’t know the truth if you fell over it. As for growing up, your growth especially between your bat ears has definitely been stunted…I am sure where you are concerned the only “truth tellers” are the slaves of to neocon thought that you find on Faux News…Hannity, Hume, O’Reilly, Gibson, etc. Not one of them has had a thought they own in years…not since they sold their souls to Rupert Murdoch…take your sick philosophy somewhere else troll.
July 8th, 2005 at 1:29 pmHere is some truth that none of you can deny – liberalism is on the decline because in the war of ideas, liberals haven’t produced anything worth buying in years. That is why you will continue to lose elections in the future. Good luck suckers!
July 8th, 2005 at 1:35 pmBatman-
Grow up and learn how to make an argument like an adult.
Everyday, all you read in the paper and see on tv are negative and slanted reports on how the Bush administration is handling the war on terror, economy, etc.
Unless you are prepared to cite evidence of:
- Slanted reports
- What type of slant is being used in said reports
- Negative reports that are untrue
- Biased statements about Bush and his administration
To prove your assertion of liberal bias, then you are simply talking out of your ass.
When you make bold claims, the burden of proof is on YOU.
July 8th, 2005 at 1:36 pmYou’ve got beer goggles covered with your own cape, Batman.
The role of the fourth estate is to be the exception to the rulers. Their allegiance should lie only with the people. In Britain, journalists are EXPECTED to ask the tough questions, but here there is an un-natural deference to power combined with a lack of journalistic curiosity. And yes it’s the same whether Republicans or Democrats are in power.
The Daily Show exposed our corporate media’s failing in this funny exchange last year:
“CORDDRY: I’m a reporter, Jon, and my job is to spend half the time repeating what one side says, and half the time repeating the other. Little thing called “objectivity”–might wanna look it up someday.
STEWART: Doesn’t objectivity mean objectively weighing the evidence and calling out what’s credible and what isn’t?
CORDDRY: Whoa-ho! Well, well, well–sounds like someone wants the media to act as a filter! [high-pitched, effeminate] “Ooh, this allegation is spurious! Upon investigation this claim lacks any basis in reality! Mmm, mmm, mmm.” Listen buddy: not my job to stand between the people talking to me and the people listening to me.”
July 8th, 2005 at 1:38 pmHere is some truth that none of us can deny – stupidity is on the rise because in the war of ideas, people like Batman haven’t produced anything worth acknowledging.
That is why he will continue to be led like cattle in the future. Good luck staying out of the meat grinder, sucker!
Moo.
July 8th, 2005 at 1:39 pmThirty million Americans rely on broadcast television for their news. They form opinions based on what they hear and see and to a lesser extent, read. Since citizens cannot cast informed votes or make knowledgeable decisions on matters of public policy if the information on which they depend is distorted, it is vital to American democracy that television news and other media be fair and unbiased.
Conservatives believe the mass media, predominantly television news programs, slant reports in favor of the liberal position on issues. Most Americans agree, as the data below indicate. Yet many members of the media continue to deny a liberal bias.
Evidence of how hard journalists lean to the left was provided by S. Robert Lichter, then with George Washington University, in his groundbreaking 1980 survey of the media elite. Lichter’s findings were authoritatively confirmed by the American Association of Newspaper Editors (ASNE) in 1988 and 1997 surveys. The most recent ASNE study surveyed 1,037 newspaper reporters found 61 percent identified themselves as/leaning “liberal/Democratic” compared to only 15 percent who identified themselves as/leaning “conservative/Republican.”
With the political preferences of the press no longer secret, members of the media argued while personally liberal, they are professionally neutral. They argued their opinions do not matter because as professional journalists, they report what they observe without letting their opinions affect their judgment. But being a journalist is not like being a surveillance camera at an ATM, faithfully recording every scene for future playback. Journalists make subjective decisions every minute of their professional lives. They choose what to cover and what not to cover, which sources are credible and which are not, which quotes to use in a story and which to toss out.
Liberal bias in the news media is a reality. It is not the result of a vast left-wing conspiracy; journalists do not meet secretly to plot how to slant their news reports. But everyday pack journalism often creates an unconscious “groupthink” mentality that taints news coverage and allows only one side of a debate to receive a fair hearing. When that happens, the truth suffers. That is why it is so important news media reports be politically balanced, not biased.
The Media Research Center regularly documents the national media’s ongoing liberal bias  and has since 1987. For a look at media bias in the last decade, the last year or even last night, check the MRC homepage.
The information that follows relays the political composition of the media  voting patterns, political affiliations and beliefs  as expressed to researchers by the reporters themselves. This is followed by a review of public opinion on liberal media bias, and what members of the media have said about liberal media bias, and a guide to how to identify liberal media bias.
July 8th, 2005 at 1:43 pmFollowing are some random examples of media bias – from Medicare, to abortion, to TV commentators. I don’t have the time to post all the information I find, and I don’t update this page very much anymore, so please make sure to check out The Media Research Center and The Media Bias Web Site for a detailed look at media bias
Book Deals
Newt Gingrich’s $400,000 book deal while he was in Congress caused Media outrage! Senator Hillary Rodham’s $8 million book deal elicited media praise! [See related article]
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The media and abortion….
On April 14, 1999, 60 Minutes presented a piece on Michael Bray, and anti-abortion activist who condones violence. Once again, the media did a good job of giving the impression that most pro-lifers condone such actions, when in fact, they do not. Read Jen Roth’s letter to 60 Minutes about this – and Jen’s a liberal!
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Hitting a New Low in Bias an article by Nancy Myers
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My local newspaper, the Courier Post, reported in 1992, the abortion related activities occurring on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade. On that day, 70,000 pro-lifers marched in Washington. 150 pro-lifers marched in Trenton. 25 pro-choicers, also in NJ, held a candlelight vigil. And the picture shown? Was it the 70,000 people in Washington? The 150 in Trenton? No. There was a huge picture of the 25 pro-choicers and a pretty extensive story – or an attempt to create a story about the small gathering. No pictures or extensive coverage was given to the 70,000 pro-lifers in Wash or the 150 in Trenton. Can anyone imagine the reverse situation ever occurring? I think not.
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February 11, 1999 – Tinky Winky – the Gay Teletubby?
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Dan Quayle Vs. Al Gore
Remember the media blitz surrounding Dan Quayle’s misspelling of the word potato? Well, Al Gore visited Minneapolis Minnesota on October 12, 1998 and raised several hundred thousand dollars for DFL gubernatorial nominee Hubert Humphrey III and two Democratic congressmen. Too bad he forgot which state he was in. Gore misspoke when he tried to summarize their commitment to education. “They will be the education team that Missouri needs to move into the 21st century,” he said. The Minneapolis Star Tribune did mention this story – once. When Dan Quayle misspelled the word potato it was mentioned in this paper over a dozen times in the following 30 days.
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The Paula Jones Case…
In a nutshell, one can see the bias here if one looks at how the media treated Anita Hill and how Paula Jones is treated. One example:
Appearing on MSNBC’s The News with Brian Williams on April 1, 1998, Newsweek’s resident “conventional wisdom” creator Jonathan Alter delivered his spin on the fallout of the Jones dismissal. The MRC’s Tim Graham took down his comments and found they offered quite a contrast to how Alter assessed Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas in 1991.
On Jones, Alter declared: “She’s obviously a footnote to history now. But she also, when there’s summary judgment, that’s another way of saying ‘You’re a nuisance.’ That’s what summary judgment means, that it’s a nuisance lawsuit, a frivolous lawsuit. She’s been a professional litigant for the last five years, so now she’ll have to get on and get a life. She has shown an interest in acting. Doubtful that the Royal Shakespeare Company will be seeking her services, but she might get a guest spot or something like that on [the redneck sitcom of Jeff] Foxworthy. That’s about what her future holds.”
On Starr: “Thumbs down for him. It really makes his job a lot more difficult. What is he gonna do? Subpoena Judge Wright and charge her with obstruction of justice because she’s gotten in his way? I think he should be winding down investigation, putting his cards on the table. If he doesn’t come forward very soon with credible evidence of lawbreaking, he will go down in history as the Peeping Tom prosecutor.”
Compare those condemnations to what Alter penned in the October 21, 1991 Newsweek:
“C. Thomas (down arrow): He’s lying (Isn’t he?) Effective denials, but stop crying racism.”
“A. Hill (up arrow): She’s a brave truth teller (Isn’t she?) Her details, lack of motive tip the balance.”
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Hey! I’m not alone on my opinion on media bias. The following are the results of a poll (December, 1996) conducted by Louis Harris and Associates for the nonpartisan Center for Media and Public Affairs:
1) most Americans think that the media are biased. Almost half (49%) think that the media usually don’t “get the facts straight.”
2) some two-thirds believe the media don’t “deal fairly with all sides” in social and political reporting.
3) almost three-fourths of Americans see a “fair amount” or “great deal” of political bias in the news. And by more than a 2-to-1 ratio, poll resondents said that bias is liberal rather than conservative (43%-19%).
4) more than 60% of Americans surveyed prefer the media to “simply report the facts” and not “weigh the facts and offer suggestions about how to solve problems.” This is a sharp break from ABC News’ motto “News With Solutions.”
5) some 65% do not believe that “journalists should point out what they believe are inaccuracies and distortions in the statements of public figures.”
6) nearly 60% believe the news media have “too much influence.”
7) some 47% think journalists have values different from their own.
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Headlines don’t always tell the real story..
Two types of media bias are subtle, but effective; misleading headlines, and “no-news” anti- Republican front page articles.
Misleading headlines are an especially devious form of media bias. Anyone who scans newspaper headlines to get an idea of what the news is can get a totally skewed perception of the information contained within the article, even when an article is factually correct. Recent headlines in the Courier-Post, a member of the Gannett Group and located in Cherry Hill, NJ illustrate the point.
Headline on 8/15/97: GOP memo: Kill insurance reform
The article under this large-type front page headline reports that a memo was sent by GOP leaders in New Jersey to all elected GOP State Assembly members suggesting they not sign a petition being circulated by the Democrats who are launching a drive for a special session on auto insurance. The memo also offers advice on what to say if contacted by the press. The article states that the petition has wording critical of Governor Christie Whitman. GOP leaders are quoted in the article as saying the memo was typical political advice offered by staff members, and refer to the petition as being “politically motivated. It smacks of campaign work on state time.” It’s not surprising that GOP leaders would not want GOP Assembly members signing a petition that criticizes the GOP governor up for reelection this fall. The article also quotes a number of GOP lawmakers who are willing to reconvene the Legislature and get to work on reform bills to lower rates. The article includes the full text of the memo, including the following paragraph – “We plan to continue working together with Gov. Whitman to address auto insurance reform and develop a plan that is best for all New Jersey drivers.” – and nothing in the memo refers in any way to killing insurance reform. So I ask you – based on the content of the memo and the facts stated in the article, who in the GOP wants to kill insurance reform? No one! But that’s not what the headline says.
Headline on 7/19/97: N.J. unemployment rate up 5.5%
This would be shocking if it were true, but the facts in the article show otherwise. In May 1997, the unemployment rate in New Jersey was 5.4% and in June it was 5.5% – a very small increase, certainly not an increase of 5.5% as the headline says. The good news in the article is that the rate is a decrease over the June 1996 rate of 6.3%, and the number of people employed in June actually increased 5,300 over May. The reason the rate was up even a small percent when the number of jobs increased, is that unemployment rates are unrelated to job growth, but are instead an indication of the number of people who are actively looking for work, such as people deciding to re-enter the work force. A rise in June is not surprising since June is a month many high school graduates “become unemployed” by making the decision to enter the work force. Was the headline a simple mistake in wording? Maybe, and maybe not.
Another headline example: A CNN/USA Today poll out 8/14/97 has headlines that say “More Americans Want Jones vs. Clinton Settled Out Of Court” based on a poll that is 48% to 42% in favor of an out of court settlement. The poll has a 3.5% margin of error which gives the poll a 2.5% edge in favor of settling out of court. Does this justify the CNN/USA Today headline? The answer is NO! It is basically a dead heat. Somehow I think that if the poll was the other way around, the headline would read something like “People Undecided on Whether Jones vs. Clinton should be Settled out of Court.”
Two examples of anti-Republican articles that contain no news (or minimal news), but still found their way to front page status at the Courier-Post are:
Headline on 8/8/97: Quayle’s ‘potatoe’ kid deals with fleeting fame
This article appeared on the front page. It contained information about the sixth grader who was involved in the Dan Quayle potatoe episode in June 1992. It referred to the fact that the boy became a father at age 16 and has a 14-month-old daughter who lives with her dad’s family. This is not current news, yet it is on the front page. Why? As a putdown to Republicans at a time when the Republican governor of the state is running for a second term?
Headline on 8/9/97: Legislator soliciting for club’ members
July 8th, 2005 at 1:44 pmThis article refers to a campaign fund-raising technique being used by a local Republican Assemblyman who mailed fliers for “Senate Club 97″, promising a “private reception” with Gov. Christie Whitman as well as a separate “cocktail party” with other officials in return for an $1800 donation. The assemblyman’s Democratic opponent compared the club to possible campaign finance abuses being examined in Washington by a Congressional committee. Abuses? This is simply a way of advertising to upcoming fundraising events much like all the other legal, typical, run-of-the-mill campaign fundraisers. Tickets for both events will be put on sale for the public. The reception will be held at a private home, and the cocktail party at a country club. No Buddhist Temple or government property misused here. But the unfounded scurrilous implication by the Democratic opponent makes it to the front page of the paper. Why?
Batman, thanks for all the 1990’s citings. Got anything more recent? No? Then why don’t you go to http://www.mediamatters.org and check out the TRUTH? Try to counter ANYTHING in that site. Bill O’Reilly is so scared of the truth in Media Matters that he doesn’t dare bring on David Brock as a guest.
July 8th, 2005 at 1:49 pmJust a tactic.If you keep claiming the MSM is liberal then you can shift the whole spectrum to the right and shut out the true left. That has already been done.
July 8th, 2005 at 1:52 pmFolks know what Liberal Media Bias is. Even those who deny it have to know what the rest of us are talking about. Anybody can read it between the lines, see it on CBS (also ABC and NBC), hear it on NPR, and almost feel it, it’s so thick at times. Like an oil slick over the news, L.M.B. permeates American journalism’s elite.
But defining Liberal Media Bias isn’t easy. Because its very purpose is to be slippery, hard to pin down, indefinable. At its most effective, L.M.B. isn’t even noticeable. It’s supposed to come naturally, even automatically. Indeed, that’s the object of the game: to present opinion as news, bias as fact, so smoothly that nobody is aware of the subtle switch.
As with George Orwell’s newspeak, the function of L.M.B. isn’t just to condition thought; it’s to make any other thoughts unthinkable. Or at least unfashionable.
L.M.B. may be hard to pinpoint but, as a justice of the United States Supreme Court once said about pornography, you know it when you see it. Or hear it. Or read it. At least you should if you’ve got the slightest ear for language. It can even be a kind of spectator sport. Sometimes you almost want to cheer, its sleights of mind are executed so smoothly at times.
At other times, you just groan. I take the precaution, on hearing the first groaner on an NPR newscast, of switching to the classical music station. I owe Linda Wertheimer alone a debt of immense gratitude for guiding me to some of the most beautiful symphonies in the Western canon.
But although evidence of Liberal Media Bias abounds, there’s never been any proof that it’s part of a conscious pattern, a deliberate decision, something ordered from above. Till now.
Because now, thanks to some public-spirited leaker at ABC, we have the full text of an internal memo from its political director, Mark Halperin, to his minions. It’s dated Friday, Oct. 8, 2004, and it makes perfectly clear whose side ABC “News” is going to be on in this presidential election:
It goes without saying that the stakes are getting very high for the country and the campaigns – and our responsibilities become quite grave.
I do not want to set off (an) endless colloquy that none of us have time for today – nor do I want to stifle one. Please respond if you feel you can advance the discussion.
The New York Times (Nagourney/Stevenson) and Howard Fineman on the web both make the same point today: the current Bush attacks on Kerry involve distortions and taking things out of context in a way that goes beyond what Kerry has done.
Kerry distorts, takes out of context, and mistakes all the time, but these are not central to his efforts to win.
We have a responsibility to hold both sides accountable to the public interest, but that doesn’t mean we reflexively and artificially hold both sides “equally” accountable when the facts don’t warrant that.
I’m sure many of you have this week felt the stepped up Bush efforts to complain about our coverage. This is all part of their efforts to get away with as much as possible with the stepped up, renewed efforts to win the election by destroying Senator Kerry at least partly through distortions.
It’s up to Kerry to defend himself, of course. But as one of the few news organizations with the skill and strength to help voters evaluate what the candidates are saying to serve the public interest. Now is the time for all of us to step up and do that right.
To summarize: Yes, our candidate may falsify now and then, but the other guy’s falsity is at the center of his campaign. This memo might as well be a declaration of political war on ABC’s part. It’s what every true believer thinks in the heat of an election season. But it’s unusual for a supposed unbiased newsman to think so. Or rather say so. In writing.
Liberal Media Bias isn’t just a feeling anymore; it’s a documented plan. Case closed. With a full confession.
And if you honestly can’t hear the prejudice in ABC’s memo, try switching the names of the candidates around and it’ll come through loud and clear. Unless, of course, you really do believe one presidential candidate is basically a good guy and the other is evil personified.
The bias behind much of the news Americans are fed isn’t exactly a surprise. But at least when you’re listening to right-wing talk radio, you know you’re listening to right-wing talk radio. And when you’re watching Fox News, you can be confident it’s fair and balanced in favor of the right.
It’s the pretense of objectivity at the old established networks that offends, or should. Now it lies shattered.
What’s surprising about this memo isn’t ABC’s Liberal Media Bias, but that someone at the top would be dumb enough to put it in writing.
How can anybody take ABC’s election coverage seriously after this? This memo makes even CBS’ fake-but-accurate coverage, phony documents and all, sound semi-honest. Once again, between leakers and bloggers, The Old Media has been unmasked. The proof is in the memo.
July 8th, 2005 at 1:54 pmBatman,
Please look up “plagiarism” at http://www.dictionary.com .
You won’t get anywhere citing out-of-context MRC anecdotes as evidence, BTW. The statistics are clearly against you:
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-liberalmedia.htm
July 8th, 2005 at 1:54 pmI can copy’n'paste slanted articles also, but I don’t. Why? Because there is no objectivity in doing so. Give credit to who actually wrote all that Butman. It’s called a byline. Try highlighting too, it helps locate and make your point.
July 8th, 2005 at 1:56 pmBatman-
Wow…that’s one HELL of a cut and paste job!
Or would you seriously have you believe that you put together those quotes and the ideas in between them in the 7 minutes since you were asked for supporting claims and you posting them?
And as was already pointed out, your information is rather dated (I wonder why). Of course, none of your cut and paste job really explains where the actual bias is, or justifies it being a systemic problem, but I do understand that when you are regurgitating ideas off a right-wing website that it can be difficult digesting specific questions that have not already been pre-chewed for you.
July 8th, 2005 at 1:59 pmBatman must not have a job cause he’s spending his whole day here.
Hey batman…. get off of welfare and get a job.
July 8th, 2005 at 2:00 pmthanks bat…. ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
July 8th, 2005 at 2:09 pmSome evidence of ABC’s pinko commie liberal bias :
http://mediamatters.org/archives/search.html?topic=ABC
July 8th, 2005 at 2:12 pmFiction CAN be fun!
July 8th, 2005 at 2:16 pmWhy do you waste your time listening to these morons?
And why bother trying to discern anything other than hate and stupidity coming from their mouths.
Turn them off and don’t buy the products sold on their shows.
July 8th, 2005 at 2:27 pmTo them, any story that does not pin the needle to right on the meter, is liberal biased.
July 8th, 2005 at 2:31 pmRevolution starts in the economy.
July 8th, 2005 at 2:32 pmBatman,
I was curious. What do you do for a living Batman?
You seem like such an intelligent young republican with such deep thoughts.
Are you a strategist for the GOP? I mean pulling that 1990s data. The world has changed slightly in the past 10 years. Have you noticed?
July 8th, 2005 at 2:32 pmSounds like a CIA cut’n'paste Inteligence operative.
July 8th, 2005 at 2:34 pmJust a spoonful of delusion helps the propaganda go down..Sing along with me now…..yeah!
July 8th, 2005 at 2:38 pmignorance is bliss – and that’s true on both sides – the right is so stupid it only knows how to speak hate
the progressives are still clinging to the belief that the right is principled rather than fascist.
July 8th, 2005 at 2:46 pmfollowup on ignorance is bliss theme
July 8th, 2005 at 2:49 pmprogressives still cling to the belief that American msm journalists have professional integrity – they are well paid media whore propagandists
I am giving up any hope that liberals will ever come to their senses. You want to believe only what you want to believe. Have a nice life in denial! I have to go back to my batcave now, work is piling up. You know I actually am a Republican who is trying to make an honest living. Good Bye.
July 8th, 2005 at 3:53 pmZot …
“How interesting… The Federalist Journal tards list the same P.O. Box address as one used by Ventura County Superior Court Collections Unit in Simi Valley when registering their domain name. Not a good idea.”
Uh, no.
Registrant:
Not Applicable
Systems Admin (federalistjournal@yahoo.com)
PO Box 120
Simi Valley
CA,93062
US
Tel. +00.9476340
Fax. +00.0000000
Creation Date: 08-Feb-2002
July 8th, 2005 at 4:30 pmExpiration Date: 08-Feb-2006
Media Mutters? *L* A lying Soros propaganda mill.
July 8th, 2005 at 4:31 pmAnyone who doesn’t believe that there is a certain level of liberal media bias in this country had better take off their beer goggles.
I took off my beer goggles, but then I saw yoursister and your wife, Batman, and I puked my guts out. The scary thing is they were both the same person.
July 8th, 2005 at 5:08 pmWow, we’re even in threads we haven’t posted to yet, cool. We’re being compared to FOX News and Rush Limbaugh? Thank you all, that’s honorable company, for sure. :)
wallace – you can’t expect much in the way of reading and comprehension skills from liberals. No doubt poor Zot is a product of the dumbed-down public schools. *L*
July 8th, 2005 at 5:12 pmI wonder if they realize they generate much of the excitement that attracts people to this site and makes them respond to the message. Talk about “dumbed down”. I used to be a Republican. Now I am a Progressive.
July 8th, 2005 at 5:35 pmThere’s nothing progressive about “progressives.” Leftists/statists tried to hide behind the word “liberal” until they made that word a pejorative. So they switched to “progressive.” Authoritarian statism and racial obsession by any other name…
July 8th, 2005 at 5:46 pmWhatever ED.
July 8th, 2005 at 6:16 pmEditor-
Always available for a good laugh! Now you are talking to yourself? It’s pretty damn obvious that you and wallace are the same guy, since no other trolls use that stupid *L* except for you.
Nice try, though.
Authoritarian statism and racial obsession by any other name would still be Republican.
July 8th, 2005 at 6:22 pmMark,to answer your question,
July 8th, 2005 at 6:26 pm“Batman” is a gay porn star.
He usually co-stars with Rump Robbin’
His last movie was “Dugout Tunnel”
I think what is funny is that the “opposing” party operatives will not answer any questions. One again, Batman and the “Editors” avoided my confrontational tactics and questions.
I will verbally bitch slap these folks in an actual debate.
Anytime and anywhere. The challenge has put out there. The gauntlet has been thrown down. I will, in of course the metaphorical sense, scalp you. You are afraid and should be. I will crush you on a stage in front of people.
You folks are so weak.
July 8th, 2005 at 6:41 pmpejorative
How do you pronounce that? Is that a Bobby Brown song? R. Kelley! My Pee-jorative?
July 8th, 2005 at 6:54 pmHillbilly-
I know Editors lies like a rug, but pejorative is in fact a real word:
pe·jor·a·tive adj.
Tending to make or become worse.
Disparaging; belittling.
n.
A disparaging or belittling word or expression.
July 8th, 2005 at 7:23 pmED can thank the friendly liberals on Sesame Street at PBS for his word of the day, brought to you by the letter *P*. Yesterday it was the letter *L*. He should have paid more attention to the segment about liberals and progressives though.
July 8th, 2005 at 7:28 pmHillbilly-
I know Editors lies like a rug, but pejorative is in fact a real word:
pe·jor·a·tive adj.
Tending to make or become worse.
Disparaging; belittling.
n.
A disparaging or belittling word or expression.
Comment by John S.
Perjorative? Isn’t that like a purgative? Or is that an expectorant? I expect it is? It’s not my perogi to know these things.
July 8th, 2005 at 8:03 pmC, N, or L?
July 8th, 2005 at 8:06 pmA little PBS/CPB info that adds up to good reading!
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050718&s=blumenthal
“. We need to kick in the doors of Nile Gardiner, Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity late some night, drag them screaming from their beds and interrogate them”
Hey Dreamer
Why not go get Janet Reno and the gang togeather and make a night of it. Kick in some doors in Miami and then burn some kids in Waco.
July 8th, 2005 at 9:17 pmWhat year is it, big kahuna? Be like Bush and invade!
I’d have kicked in those obstructionists door in Miami faster that Reno! Waco’s a different story, one I didn’t/don’t like. What’s your point?
July 8th, 2005 at 9:40 pmThere aren’t that many people left stupid enough to believe the garbage these guys are spewing; they’re on the downside of a really slippery slope. They started with some ugly but not overtly fascist rhetoric. Ratings began to slide a little, surveys showed that their remaining core audience liked the message, so to bring the ratings back up, they ratcheted up the ugliness. They lost the more moderate members of their audience, ratings slid, surveys showed the remaining core members liked the ugliness of the message, so they ratcheted up the ugliness again, and again lost the another group of (relatively) moderate viewers. There is an end in sight. The cycle has a natural end — ugliness too high, ratings too low, too few viewers. Faux News is on its last legs; the end is near. It’s inevitable.
July 9th, 2005 at 12:55 amCan we really expect political pundits on either side not to do name calling? Both sides will always say they are right and the other side is wrong. The rhetoric reminds me of something like this, “My Daddy and beat up Your Daddy!” Both sides need to grow up and work together to provide real solutions to real problems instead of using “culture war” to blind us and lead our nation to destruction. We are all Americans, let us work together as a great Nation of Americans. A House divided against itself can not stand!
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