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		<title>By: mortgaje</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/11/breaking-white-house-stonewalls-on-rove/comment-page-2/#comment-1754756</link>
		<dc:creator>mortgaje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like your site</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Brown</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/11/breaking-white-house-stonewalls-on-rove/comment-page-2/#comment-61601</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I watched the hapless McClellan attempt to fend off the barrage of questions from a revived press corps, my first inclination was to pity the poor man; but, it has occurred to me that he, unlike Colin Powell, could simply resign in disgust if  crawling through the muck is too distasteful. Incidentally, has anyone ever counted how many times he uses the phrase, &quot;move forward&quot; (or a derivative thereof) in a single press conference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I watched the hapless McClellan attempt to fend off the barrage of questions from a revived press corps, my first inclination was to pity the poor man; but, it has occurred to me that he, unlike Colin Powell, could simply resign in disgust if  crawling through the muck is too distasteful. Incidentally, has anyone ever counted how many times he uses the phrase, &#8220;move forward&#8221; (or a derivative thereof) in a single press conference?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=61601', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Darth Filibustrous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Filibustrous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I guess Goyal has been promoted now to the Gannon seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I guess Goyal has been promoted now to the Gannon seat.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=60478', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Darth Filibustrous</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/11/breaking-white-house-stonewalls-on-rove/comment-page-2/#comment-60477</link>
		<dc:creator>Darth Filibustrous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raghubir Goyal is no Gannon, he is just an eccentric reporter from India Globe who ususally asks some arcane question about about how bad Pakistan is, but serves the purpose by changing the subject. He may not get RNC talking points, but the subject-changing is good enough for Scottie.

Lester Kinsolving is the other clown that still remains in the WHPC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raghubir Goyal is no Gannon, he is just an eccentric reporter from India Globe who ususally asks some arcane question about about how bad Pakistan is, but serves the purpose by changing the subject. He may not get RNC talking points, but the subject-changing is good enough for Scottie.</p>
<p>Lester Kinsolving is the other clown that still remains in the WHPC.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=60477', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem that Rove found out about Plame from one of 2 people: Miller, who has worked in and around WMD for many years and has even been suspected of moonlighting as an intelligence operative; or Bolton, he of the unusually curious nature.

FWIW, I recall that Berger took &quot;copies&quot; of documents and destroyed/lost them.  He did not have access to the originals, so I&#039;m not sure it should be called stealing.  He took notes (against the rules) and removed copies (against the rules); he was caught; he fessed up; he was punished.  And people want to say that Berger is worse than Rove?  Boggles the mind...

Lastly, after watching the CSpan Scotty-Fest, I&#039;m have 2 questions:  1) How odd that the press conference opens with a reminder of what happened in Srebrenica 10 years ago. If Bush thinks it was so horrible an event, I wonder why he forgot to discuss the reaction of the US to it?  Oh, I forgot, that was some other administration.
2) Who is the new Gannon replacement that Scotty reached out to in his time of need?  His name in the transcript is Goyal. His question includes the quote &quot;the President is doing a great job as far as fighting against terrorism is concerned&quot;. Gag me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem that Rove found out about Plame from one of 2 people: Miller, who has worked in and around WMD for many years and has even been suspected of moonlighting as an intelligence operative; or Bolton, he of the unusually curious nature.</p>
<p>FWIW, I recall that Berger took &#8220;copies&#8221; of documents and destroyed/lost them.  He did not have access to the originals, so I&#8217;m not sure it should be called stealing.  He took notes (against the rules) and removed copies (against the rules); he was caught; he fessed up; he was punished.  And people want to say that Berger is worse than Rove?  Boggles the mind&#8230;</p>
<p>Lastly, after watching the CSpan Scotty-Fest, I&#8217;m have 2 questions:  1) How odd that the press conference opens with a reminder of what happened in Srebrenica 10 years ago. If Bush thinks it was so horrible an event, I wonder why he forgot to discuss the reaction of the US to it?  Oh, I forgot, that was some other administration.<br />
2) Who is the new Gannon replacement that Scotty reached out to in his time of need?  His name in the transcript is Goyal. His question includes the quote &#8220;the President is doing a great job as far as fighting against terrorism is concerned&#8221;. Gag me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59928', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Federico Astiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Federico Astiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s aabout time we clean the white house of the cancer that afflicts it get them all impeached!.  Save America and the American way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s aabout time we clean the white house of the cancer that afflicts it get them all impeached!.  Save America and the American way.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59919', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: John S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But bootz, previously chewed ideas are easier to digest, &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; easier to swallow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But bootz, previously chewed ideas are easier to digest, <i>and</i> easier to swallow!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59915', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bootz</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/11/breaking-white-house-stonewalls-on-rove/comment-page-2/#comment-59846</link>
		<dc:creator>bootz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 02:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And one more thing, Cameron. Don&#039;t be so freakin&#039; lazy. You cut-and-pasted right off of RedState.org!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And one more thing, Cameron. Don&#8217;t be so freakin&#8217; lazy. You cut-and-pasted right off of RedState.org!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59846', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bootz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bootz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 02:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron dutifully parroted the White House talking points (I wonder if they&#039;re still coming from Rove on this one). He got his feed from RedState.org, and their whole &#039;Wilson is a liar&#039; theme is based on a shoddy piece of work by Susan Schmidt at the Washington Post from July 10, 2004. In it she wrote about the release of a report by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence regarding the question of how the Niger-Iraq reference made it into Bush&#039;s State of the Union speech.

Cameron, did you even read the Senate committee&#039;s report? Did you even read Schmidt&#039;s piece that originally reported on it? If you go to that link (It&#039;s on the RedState.org page ), http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html?referrer=emailarticle you&#039;ll find that the WaPo issued a correction. Schmidt confused references to an Iran-Niger connection (true) with one involving Iraq and Niger (false). For further clarification on Schmidt&#039;s story, and a sound debunking of today&#039;s right wing Wilson-as-liar meme, see how Talking Points Memo took the spin out of Schmidt&#039;s story when it first came out: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_07_04.php#003143</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron dutifully parroted the White House talking points (I wonder if they&#8217;re still coming from Rove on this one). He got his feed from RedState.org, and their whole &#8216;Wilson is a liar&#8217; theme is based on a shoddy piece of work by Susan Schmidt at the Washington Post from July 10, 2004. In it she wrote about the release of a report by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence regarding the question of how the Niger-Iraq reference made it into Bush&#8217;s State of the Union speech.</p>
<p>Cameron, did you even read the Senate committee&#8217;s report? Did you even read Schmidt&#8217;s piece that originally reported on it? If you go to that link (It&#8217;s on the RedState.org page ), <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html?referrer=emailarticle" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html?referrer=emailarticle</a> you&#8217;ll find that the WaPo issued a correction. Schmidt confused references to an Iran-Niger connection (true) with one involving Iraq and Niger (false). For further clarification on Schmidt&#8217;s story, and a sound debunking of today&#8217;s right wing Wilson-as-liar meme, see how Talking Points Memo took the spin out of Schmidt&#8217;s story when it first came out: <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_07_04.php#003143" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_07_04.php#003143</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59839', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: addie corn</title>
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		<dc:creator>addie corn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll love to watch them crash and burn!! It&#039;s about time!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll love to watch them crash and burn!! It&#8217;s about time!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59801', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Heywood J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heywood J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Rove waits futilely for Scotty to beam him up, let&#039;s hope our intrepid media drones are once and for all on the job now.

Even though Rove hasn&#039;t much scalp left, I think this could be fairly claimed as one, seeing as how the SCLM would have reported in perpetuity on Paris Hilton and Michael Jackson riding sharks in hurricanes, were it not for the stout warriors of the internets. They drove to the golf course, set the ball on the tee, got Happy Gilmore on the ball with the 3 wood. All the news-readers have to do is get off their asses long enough to sink a two-foot putt.

Score another one for the pajamahadeen. Nice work, folks. See you at the 19th hole, and then we can go piss on Karl Rove&#039;s political grave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Rove waits futilely for Scotty to beam him up, let&#8217;s hope our intrepid media drones are once and for all on the job now.</p>
<p>Even though Rove hasn&#8217;t much scalp left, I think this could be fairly claimed as one, seeing as how the SCLM would have reported in perpetuity on Paris Hilton and Michael Jackson riding sharks in hurricanes, were it not for the stout warriors of the internets. They drove to the golf course, set the ball on the tee, got Happy Gilmore on the ball with the 3 wood. All the news-readers have to do is get off their asses long enough to sink a two-foot putt.</p>
<p>Score another one for the pajamahadeen. Nice work, folks. See you at the 19th hole, and then we can go piss on Karl Rove&#8217;s political grave.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59775', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Greybeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greybeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to give every one of the treasonous bastards a fair trial then Hang Em. Thats about what they have been doing to America. Be nice to see them all in Gitmo surviving under the rules they set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to give every one of the treasonous bastards a fair trial then Hang Em. Thats about what they have been doing to America. Be nice to see them all in Gitmo surviving under the rules they set.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59768', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clemsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clemsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the Scotty lines from Raw Story: http://rawstory.com/news/2005/TRANSCRIPT_WHITE_HOUSE_GRILLED_0711.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the Scotty lines from Raw Story: <a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2005/TRANSCRIPT_WHITE_HOUSE_GRILLED_0711.html" rel="nofollow">http://rawstory.com/news/2005/TRANSCRIPT_WHITE_HOUSE_GRILLED_0711.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59719', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clemsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clemsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kyleb!

Too late! The truth is no longer non-partisan. Sigh. It&#039;s liberal. Can&#039;t help it, dammit! You speak the truth, you&#039;re branded liberal. Waddya gonna do?</description>
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<p>Too late! The truth is no longer non-partisan. Sigh. It&#8217;s liberal. Can&#8217;t help it, dammit! You speak the truth, you&#8217;re branded liberal. Waddya gonna do?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59708', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kyleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is difficult to believe how many dumb, uninformed, biased people there are out there - and most seem to post to this site.  Do &quot;red-state&quot; or &quot;Cameron&quot; or any of the other nikulturny ever read anything?  Reading their posts gives the impression that they live in a vacuum, underground, and emerge only to rant to the ignorant.  Rove was outraged when Ambassador Joseph Wilson (a Republican) exposed the oft-repeated lies of the White House and then went public.  Out of pure spite and in retaliation, Rove outed a CIA operative who specialized in protecting our nation from WMD&#039;s.  There is no way he could not have known her status, with the sources at his disposal!  You don&#039;t have to be a &quot;liberal&quot; to understand this or to realize that such an action is a serious felony!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is difficult to believe how many dumb, uninformed, biased people there are out there &#8211; and most seem to post to this site.  Do &#8220;red-state&#8221; or &#8220;Cameron&#8221; or any of the other nikulturny ever read anything?  Reading their posts gives the impression that they live in a vacuum, underground, and emerge only to rant to the ignorant.  Rove was outraged when Ambassador Joseph Wilson (a Republican) exposed the oft-repeated lies of the White House and then went public.  Out of pure spite and in retaliation, Rove outed a CIA operative who specialized in protecting our nation from WMD&#8217;s.  There is no way he could not have known her status, with the sources at his disposal!  You don&#8217;t have to be a &#8220;liberal&#8221; to understand this or to realize that such an action is a serious felony!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59684', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: John Hanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not enough to catch the alligators.  We have to drain the swamp, starting with a Constitution that allow the endless accumulation of wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not enough to catch the alligators.  We have to drain the swamp, starting with a Constitution that allow the endless accumulation of wealth.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59621', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unkle adolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>unkle adolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john b

re: Security access.

I agree. How did Rove get access to &#039;eyes-only&#039; (Restricted Access Top Secret) materials?

I worked with classified materials when I was in USAF 30 yrs ago, but was never cleared for that level of material. To get access you need more than a need to know. The information has to be &quot;vital and necessary&quot; to the performance of your duties. This is major serious. If Rove had access to the list of active covert agents, he may have been in violation of law if he had no reason or need to access the material.

CIA will not admit to ANY classification level over Top Secret, but the special access programs and data exist. Some is so cassified that it is supposedly stamped &quot;Burn Before Reading&quot;. Point is, Rove may be in very deep trouble. Can&#039;t say I&#039;m particularly surprised. Evil always trips over it&#039;s tongue (actually anatomically somewhat lower that trips Rove. Gee, Do you think Guckert/Gannon is involved?). This looks like so much fun if it goes the right way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john b</p>
<p>re: Security access.</p>
<p>I agree. How did Rove get access to &#8216;eyes-only&#8217; (Restricted Access Top Secret) materials?</p>
<p>I worked with classified materials when I was in USAF 30 yrs ago, but was never cleared for that level of material. To get access you need more than a need to know. The information has to be &#8220;vital and necessary&#8221; to the performance of your duties. This is major serious. If Rove had access to the list of active covert agents, he may have been in violation of law if he had no reason or need to access the material.</p>
<p>CIA will not admit to ANY classification level over Top Secret, but the special access programs and data exist. Some is so cassified that it is supposedly stamped &#8220;Burn Before Reading&#8221;. Point is, Rove may be in very deep trouble. Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m particularly surprised. Evil always trips over it&#8217;s tongue (actually anatomically somewhat lower that trips Rove. Gee, Do you think Guckert/Gannon is involved?). This looks like so much fun if it goes the right way!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59595', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clemsy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron, Cameron. Oh my goodness gracious me. Not only is Joe Wilson not a lefty liberal (for which he would otherwise be damned to the deepest pit of hell I&#039;m sure), but neither is pretty much most of the other fairly big named conservative repub types who have been giving it to us straight for, what, seems like an eternity.

Let&#039;s list them folks!

Richard Clarke
Gen. Shinseki
Karen Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. USAF (ret.)
General Anthony Zinni,U.S. Marine Corps (Retired)

That&#039;s just off the top of my head. C&#039;mon expand the list. Can&#039;t be damned ol lefty liberals like me! You know, folks with info that would have had Clinton char broiled in a moment.

Let the game begin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron, Cameron. Oh my goodness gracious me. Not only is Joe Wilson not a lefty liberal (for which he would otherwise be damned to the deepest pit of hell I&#8217;m sure), but neither is pretty much most of the other fairly big named conservative repub types who have been giving it to us straight for, what, seems like an eternity.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s list them folks!</p>
<p>Richard Clarke<br />
Gen. Shinseki<br />
Karen Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. USAF (ret.)<br />
General Anthony Zinni,U.S. Marine Corps (Retired)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just off the top of my head. C&#8217;mon expand the list. Can&#8217;t be damned ol lefty liberals like me! You know, folks with info that would have had Clinton char broiled in a moment.</p>
<p>Let the game begin!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59592', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wisedup</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you just know that the scrub is itching to issue a presidential pardon. 

Rove your a smart litle dick, but I&#039;m the preez by god and only I can save you. 

But Mr. President, I have not yet been convicted!

No mind, I&#039;m gonna do it anyway, its my perogatory (sic)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you just know that the scrub is itching to issue a presidential pardon. </p>
<p>Rove your a smart litle dick, but I&#8217;m the preez by god and only I can save you. </p>
<p>But Mr. President, I have not yet been convicted!</p>
<p>No mind, I&#8217;m gonna do it anyway, its my perogatory (sic)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59586', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: J.Y.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Video now on Whitehouse website as well: http://www.whitehouse.gov/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Video now on Whitehouse website as well: <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://www.whitehouse.gov/</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=59578', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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