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	<title>Comments on: Was Ari the Other Leaker?</title>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-69255</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember Republicans of the Rove Co., Inc play chess.  They have now conveniently leaked the fact that Ari was seen reading the memo on Air Force One. He is the number on patsy for several reasons.  1) He is no longer a part of the administration.  2) Blaming Ari fits with Rove&#039;s story that he was just repeating what he had heard from the press. 3) If Ari is indicted they think that ends that and since poor old Ari is no longer working at the White House GWB doesn&#039;t have to fire anyone. 

But according to John Dean just because Rove isn&#039;t guilty of violating the Identities Protection Act doesn&#039;t mean he didn&#039;t commit a crime.  Check out this article http://writ.corporate.findlaw.com/dean/20050715.html
I think John Dean should know a thing or two about White House scandals and obstructing justice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember Republicans of the Rove Co., Inc play chess.  They have now conveniently leaked the fact that Ari was seen reading the memo on Air Force One. He is the number on patsy for several reasons.  1) He is no longer a part of the administration.  2) Blaming Ari fits with Rove&#8217;s story that he was just repeating what he had heard from the press. 3) If Ari is indicted they think that ends that and since poor old Ari is no longer working at the White House GWB doesn&#8217;t have to fire anyone. </p>
<p>But according to John Dean just because Rove isn&#8217;t guilty of violating the Identities Protection Act doesn&#8217;t mean he didn&#8217;t commit a crime.  Check out this article <a href="http://writ.corporate.findlaw.com/dean/20050715.html" rel="nofollow">http://writ.corporate.findlaw.com/dean/20050715.html</a><br />
I think John Dean should know a thing or two about White House scandals and obstructing justice <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dean" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dean</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=69255', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Terrytheturtle</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-63285</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrytheturtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, that&#039;s plausible to me at one level, but my problem with Cheney is that as someone said &quot;he only speaks to other CEOs&quot; and get&#039;s his Men (and Women) Friday&#039;s to do the leg work. But then we also have the &quot;reconstituted nuclear weapons&quot; and the &quot;f*** off Leahy&quot; incidents which prove he gets excited, dicky ticker notwithstanding, every now and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, that&#8217;s plausible to me at one level, but my problem with Cheney is that as someone said &#8220;he only speaks to other CEOs&#8221; and get&#8217;s his Men (and Women) Friday&#8217;s to do the leg work. But then we also have the &#8220;reconstituted nuclear weapons&#8221; and the &#8220;f*** off Leahy&#8221; incidents which prove he gets excited, dicky ticker notwithstanding, every now and again.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=63285', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hibiscusroto super blog 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ari Fleischer?!</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-63087</link>
		<dc:creator>hibiscusroto super blog 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ari Fleischer?!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Was Ari The Other Leaker? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Neat</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-63073</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Neat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rumor I heard was that Cheney is the person that is the other &#039;confidential&#039; source.  That when Rove dropped his accusations, that some of the reporters went directly to Cheney to see if he had authorized Wilson&#039;s trip, at which point he also dropped the Ms. Wilson did it rant.

If this is true, it would explain why they are holding to the confidentiality points on the reporters who haven&#039;t been released...  It would not only be devastating to the whitehouse, but it could take down BOTH of the real powers in the whitehouse - rove &amp; cheney, and leave his incompetence to lead by himself (maybe an even scarier situation for the world than the current one?).  Sad all of the way around if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rumor I heard was that Cheney is the person that is the other &#8216;confidential&#8217; source.  That when Rove dropped his accusations, that some of the reporters went directly to Cheney to see if he had authorized Wilson&#8217;s trip, at which point he also dropped the Ms. Wilson did it rant.</p>
<p>If this is true, it would explain why they are holding to the confidentiality points on the reporters who haven&#8217;t been released&#8230;  It would not only be devastating to the whitehouse, but it could take down BOTH of the real powers in the whitehouse &#8211; rove &amp; cheney, and leave his incompetence to lead by himself (maybe an even scarier situation for the world than the current one?).  Sad all of the way around if you ask me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=63073', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Terrytheturtle</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62851</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrytheturtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff, you might be missing one:

John &#039;I always wear a brownshirt&#039; Bolton. He was deeply involved in the yellowcake story http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050511/boltons_yellowcake.php and both he and Cheney had the most egg on their faces (besides Chimpy) when the &#039;nukular weapons&#039; caper collapsed in the wake of Wilson&#039;s op-ed.

Back to you, pinko librul George H. W. Bush. http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_07_10.php#006091

Treason in a time of war and now the president refusing to root it out? Does that get over the blowjob bar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff, you might be missing one:</p>
<p>John &#8216;I always wear a brownshirt&#8217; Bolton. He was deeply involved in the yellowcake story <a href="http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050511/boltons_yellowcake.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050511/boltons_yellowcake.php</a> and both he and Cheney had the most egg on their faces (besides Chimpy) when the &#8216;nukular weapons&#8217; caper collapsed in the wake of Wilson&#8217;s op-ed.</p>
<p>Back to you, pinko librul George H. W. Bush. <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_07_10.php#006091" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_07_10.php#006091</a></p>
<p>Treason in a time of war and now the president refusing to root it out? Does that get over the blowjob bar?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62851', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: geoff</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62830</link>
		<dc:creator>geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everyone&#039;s ignoring the obvious here. rove is just bush&#039;s haldeman, mcclellan is ziegler and the stonewalling is identical and thoroughly revealing.  what they&#039;re hiding is BUSH&#039;S complicity in this.  rove was no free agent in leaking plame&#039;s identity to get back at wilson, a scheme that would bring big plaudits and vindictive laughs from bush.  the whole crime ring circled theie wagons when wilson&#039;s column emerged as a threat to their lying sales pitch, and they&#039;re all in on this one:  card, cheney, bush, rove, libby, fleischer, mcclellan and probably rice, tenet, hadley, wolfowitz and rumsfeld. they all know what each other is up to.  the question that must be asked of bush, to the exclusion of all other questions, is when did he first learn that rove had communicated information about wilson&#039;s wife to a member of the press?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone&#8217;s ignoring the obvious here. rove is just bush&#8217;s haldeman, mcclellan is ziegler and the stonewalling is identical and thoroughly revealing.  what they&#8217;re hiding is BUSH&#8217;S complicity in this.  rove was no free agent in leaking plame&#8217;s identity to get back at wilson, a scheme that would bring big plaudits and vindictive laughs from bush.  the whole crime ring circled theie wagons when wilson&#8217;s column emerged as a threat to their lying sales pitch, and they&#8217;re all in on this one:  card, cheney, bush, rove, libby, fleischer, mcclellan and probably rice, tenet, hadley, wolfowitz and rumsfeld. they all know what each other is up to.  the question that must be asked of bush, to the exclusion of all other questions, is when did he first learn that rove had communicated information about wilson&#8217;s wife to a member of the press?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62830', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cal Gal</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62666</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Shrub and the Dick: &quot;Will no one rid me of this meddlesome [ambassador]?&quot; King ? re Thomas Becket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Shrub and the Dick: &#8220;Will no one rid me of this meddlesome [ambassador]?&#8221; King ? re Thomas Becket.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62666', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Terrytheturtle</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62620</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrytheturtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The SCLM/MSM will only dog this as long as Rove is a target. I suspect they hate Rove and blame him for their collective emasculation over the last 5 years. This is not a long-awaited awakening from sleep we are seeing here on the part fo the WHPC, just revenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SCLM/MSM will only dog this as long as Rove is a target. I suspect they hate Rove and blame him for their collective emasculation over the last 5 years. This is not a long-awaited awakening from sleep we are seeing here on the part fo the WHPC, just revenge.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62620', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SM</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62605</link>
		<dc:creator>SM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re &quot;LetÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s emphasize at every turn that this thing is about just one man&quot;:

LetÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s emphasize at every turn that this thing is NOT about just one man.

GODDAMN IT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;LetÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s emphasize at every turn that this thing is about just one man&#8221;:</p>
<p>LetÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s emphasize at every turn that this thing is NOT about just one man.</p>
<p>GODDAMN IT!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62605', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SM</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62603</link>
		<dc:creator>SM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thing does not begin with Rove and it sure as hell doesn&#039;t end with Rove.

Because there was no &quot;leaker&quot;! There was no &quot;other leaker&quot;! 

GODDAMN IT! 

The outing of Plame is being framed incorrectly. There wasn&#039;t &quot;a leaker&quot; or &quot;two leakers&quot;, there was a whole damn group of leakers.

The outing of Plame was the result of groupleak. 

Every person in the Bush administration who had a hand in the events that lead from the time that Valerie Wilson was diligently working on protecting the US from the threat of WMD to the time when she was not should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law because they are all traitors to our nation. 

Now, I know that it sometimes takes time for the media to present things in the clearest manner in which they should be presented so I don&#039;t blame them too much yet for not emphasizing (or hell, even mentioning) the fact that this thing goes much deeper than Rove, but we here in the blogosphere should not be doing only what they are doing. 

Let&#039;s emphasize at every turn that this thing is about just one man, it&#039;s about a whole slew of traitorous men and women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thing does not begin with Rove and it sure as hell doesn&#8217;t end with Rove.</p>
<p>Because there was no &#8220;leaker&#8221;! There was no &#8220;other leaker&#8221;! </p>
<p>GODDAMN IT! </p>
<p>The outing of Plame is being framed incorrectly. There wasn&#8217;t &#8220;a leaker&#8221; or &#8220;two leakers&#8221;, there was a whole damn group of leakers.</p>
<p>The outing of Plame was the result of groupleak. </p>
<p>Every person in the Bush administration who had a hand in the events that lead from the time that Valerie Wilson was diligently working on protecting the US from the threat of WMD to the time when she was not should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law because they are all traitors to our nation. </p>
<p>Now, I know that it sometimes takes time for the media to present things in the clearest manner in which they should be presented so I don&#8217;t blame them too much yet for not emphasizing (or hell, even mentioning) the fact that this thing goes much deeper than Rove, but we here in the blogosphere should not be doing only what they are doing. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s emphasize at every turn that this thing is about just one man, it&#8217;s about a whole slew of traitorous men and women.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62603', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Darth Filibustrous</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62561</link>
		<dc:creator>Darth Filibustrous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Lisa, but the braindead MSM now have occasional reviews of &quot;blogosphere&quot;... (not spotting the irony that the success of the blogosphere is due to their own failure to approach subjects that people care about). 

So WE have to keep it up. The truth will out.

Regarding the DSM, what are you all doing on Saturday the 23rd? Find a &lt;a href=&#039;http://hq.demaction.org/dia/organizations/ADS/event/distributedEventSearch.jsp?distributed_event_KEY=56&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; DSM 3rd anniversary event &lt;/a&gt; near you and ATTEND!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Lisa, but the braindead MSM now have occasional reviews of &#8220;blogosphere&#8221;&#8230; (not spotting the irony that the success of the blogosphere is due to their own failure to approach subjects that people care about). </p>
<p>So WE have to keep it up. The truth will out.</p>
<p>Regarding the DSM, what are you all doing on Saturday the 23rd? Find a <a href='http://hq.demaction.org/dia/organizations/ADS/event/distributedEventSearch.jsp?distributed_event_KEY=56' rel="nofollow"> DSM 3rd anniversary event </a> near you and ATTEND!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62561', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pistaugh</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62560</link>
		<dc:creator>Pistaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if it is Cheney, some Ollie North type would step up and take the fall for him.  That&#039;s how the Republicans deal with major scandals when all else fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if it is Cheney, some Ollie North type would step up and take the fall for him.  That&#8217;s how the Republicans deal with major scandals when all else fails.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62560', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, while some of you smell blood in the water, I just watched CNN for 45 minutes and there was not one mention of Plamegate.  I think this story is going to fade and the MSM is going to let it die, just as they did the DSM and the WMD stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, while some of you smell blood in the water, I just watched CNN for 45 minutes and there was not one mention of Plamegate.  I think this story is going to fade and the MSM is going to let it die, just as they did the DSM and the WMD stories.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62556', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Suburban Guerrilla &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suburban Guerrilla &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Was Ari the other leaker? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Was Ari the other leaker? [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62548', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: narc</title>
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		<dc:creator>narc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you noticed that all of them are watching what they say? Life is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you noticed that all of them are watching what they say? Life is good.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62511', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: narc</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62508</link>
		<dc:creator>narc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Although many of you probably want more blood in this case, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s important to understand that a reporterÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s right to keep anonymous sources is more important that the latest political dogfight in D.C. Rove is guilty of what everyone knows heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s guilty of: being a scumbag. He is innocent until proven guilty on the treason allegations.&lt;/em&gt;

He&#039;s guilty. They all are. You better watch what you say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Although many of you probably want more blood in this case, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s important to understand that a reporterÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s right to keep anonymous sources is more important that the latest political dogfight in D.C. Rove is guilty of what everyone knows heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s guilty of: being a scumbag. He is innocent until proven guilty on the treason allegations.</em></p>
<p>He&#8217;s guilty. They all are. You better watch what you say.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62508', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62309</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dated 3-18-05 

The Bush administration made plans for war and for Iraq&#039;s oil before the 9/11 attacks, sparking a policy battle between neo-cons and Big Oil, BBC&#039;s Newsnight has revealed. 

Two years ago today - when President George Bush announced US, British and Allied forces would begin to bomb Baghdad - protesters claimed the US had a secret plan for Iraq&#039;s oil once Saddam had been conquered.  In fact there were two conflicting plans, setting off a hidden policy war between neo-conservatives at the Pentagon, on one side, versus a combination of &quot;Big Oil&quot; executives and US State Department &quot;pragmatists&quot;. 

&quot;Big Oil&quot; appears to have won. The latest plan, obtained by Newsnight from the US State Department was, we learned, drafted with the help of American oil industry consultants. Insiders told Newsnight that planning began &quot;within weeks&quot; of Bush&#039;s first taking office in 2001, long before the September 11th attack on the US.

 An Iraqi-born oil industry consultant, Falah Aljibury, says he took part in the secret meetings in California, Washington and the Middle East. He described a State Department plan for a forced coup d&#039;etat. Mr Aljibury himself told Newsnight that he interviewed potential successors to Saddam Hussein on behalf of the Bush administration.

Add the letter to Clinton in 99.

Add the DSM

Add the outing of Plame

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dated 3-18-05 </p>
<p>The Bush administration made plans for war and for Iraq&#8217;s oil before the 9/11 attacks, sparking a policy battle between neo-cons and Big Oil, BBC&#8217;s Newsnight has revealed. </p>
<p>Two years ago today &#8211; when President George Bush announced US, British and Allied forces would begin to bomb Baghdad &#8211; protesters claimed the US had a secret plan for Iraq&#8217;s oil once Saddam had been conquered.  In fact there were two conflicting plans, setting off a hidden policy war between neo-conservatives at the Pentagon, on one side, versus a combination of &#8220;Big Oil&#8221; executives and US State Department &#8220;pragmatists&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8220;Big Oil&#8221; appears to have won. The latest plan, obtained by Newsnight from the US State Department was, we learned, drafted with the help of American oil industry consultants. Insiders told Newsnight that planning began &#8220;within weeks&#8221; of Bush&#8217;s first taking office in 2001, long before the September 11th attack on the US.</p>
<p> An Iraqi-born oil industry consultant, Falah Aljibury, says he took part in the secret meetings in California, Washington and the Middle East. He described a State Department plan for a forced coup d&#8217;etat. Mr Aljibury himself told Newsnight that he interviewed potential successors to Saddam Hussein on behalf of the Bush administration.</p>
<p>Add the letter to Clinton in 99.</p>
<p>Add the DSM</p>
<p>Add the outing of Plame</p>
<p>votetoimpeach.org<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62309', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ottnott</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62305</link>
		<dc:creator>Ottnott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 05:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheney? I don&#039;t think he was the caller.

Cheney has CEO mentality. CEOs only dial other CEOs. They have staff to do the rest.

The question is, did he pick a staff person that would be willing to give up Cheney for a lesser sentence?

Truth is, I doubt Cheney called or asked somebody to call. What I could believe is a situation where his desires are understood and all he knows is that a staffer was &quot;working on the Niger situation&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheney? I don&#8217;t think he was the caller.</p>
<p>Cheney has CEO mentality. CEOs only dial other CEOs. They have staff to do the rest.</p>
<p>The question is, did he pick a staff person that would be willing to give up Cheney for a lesser sentence?</p>
<p>Truth is, I doubt Cheney called or asked somebody to call. What I could believe is a situation where his desires are understood and all he knows is that a staffer was &#8220;working on the Niger situation&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62305', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SpudgeBoy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62293</link>
		<dc:creator>SpudgeBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheney just got out of the hospital.

Other than that, invisible as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheney just got out of the hospital.</p>
<p>Other than that, invisible as usual.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62293', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/13/ari-leaker/comment-page-1/#comment-62288</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems kinda strange that Cheney has not been in the spotlight.

Is he in the hospital again?  Or is he one of the culprits in question?

I have no doubt that the outing was part of the intelligence fixing and the entire Bushie Administration was in on it.

But, it is peculiar that Cheney is nowhere to be found at this time.

We are in a very wonderful place right now.
Patrick Fitzgerald will take down Rove and Ramsey Clark will take down the rest.

Life is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems kinda strange that Cheney has not been in the spotlight.</p>
<p>Is he in the hospital again?  Or is he one of the culprits in question?</p>
<p>I have no doubt that the outing was part of the intelligence fixing and the entire Bushie Administration was in on it.</p>
<p>But, it is peculiar that Cheney is nowhere to be found at this time.</p>
<p>We are in a very wonderful place right now.<br />
Patrick Fitzgerald will take down Rove and Ramsey Clark will take down the rest.</p>
<p>Life is good.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=62288', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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