Conservatives’ Short-Term Memory Problem
Conservatives’ Short-Term Memory Problem
How did Bill Frist commemorate the one-week anniversary of the London terrorist attacks? By cutting transit security funds.
On the way to passing a $31.8-billion Homeland Security spending bill Thursday, Senate Republican leaders beat back a series of attempts — pressed by senators from states with large urban centers — to increase money for mass transit protection by as much as $1.4 billion. …
In the Senate’s spending bill, rail and transit safety measures were allotted $100 million, a drop of $50 million from last year.
One week.
And the Senate did the very same thing after last year’s metro attacks in Madrid, blocking two bills to beef up transit security. Keep in mind that a recent study by the American Public Transportation Association estimated that rail systems need some $6 billion for security improvements. This year’s amount, $100 million, is about eight hours of typical spending in Iraq. It’s just beyond belief.
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What? You thought they were serious about being opposed to terror? It keeps the sheeple in line.
July 15th, 2005 at 1:33 pmSenator Patty Murray in Washington state, (my home state) has been fighting since 9/11 for more funds to help defend and protect the ports in Puget Sound with almost no help from the republicans.
Makes you wonder who is soft on defense?
July 15th, 2005 at 1:56 pmWe all can see very plainly (based on the facts) who is soft on terror and who is not.
Unfortunately, Democrats have been unable to get this point across over the cacophony of Republican rhetoric.
That is - and always has been - their biggest problem.
July 15th, 2005 at 1:59 pmThe state of Illinois and the city of Chicago went ahead and spent state dollars on homeland security and continue to wait for the promised federal funds to replace them.
We the People of Illinois believe that BushCo is trying to bankrupt our state because we are Blue.
We had a balanced budget until we spent money on Homeland Security. Now we are in the hole, just like BushCo planned it.
This is one of the many reasons my Republican County is turning Blue.
July 15th, 2005 at 2:06 pmTalk about soft on defense. The London terrorists came from Pakistan. The same Pakistan where Bush refused to chase bin Laden. The same Pakistan we’ve been screaming about when the Yellowphants talk about how we’ve pacified Iraq.
July 15th, 2005 at 2:19 pmWonder where steed and fake are? There being awfully quite about this thread.
July 15th, 2005 at 2:29 pmActually, ce-h, the London bombers were born and bred Englishmen of Pakistani descent. Which makes what they did all the more bizarre.
July 15th, 2005 at 2:44 pmThe all went to Pakistan to receive training. The operation looks like it was orchestrated from Pakistan. Terrorist training camps are operating in Pakistan. Bush should have known this. He should know it now.
July 15th, 2005 at 2:46 pm“We all can see very plainly (based on the facts) who is soft on terror and who is not.”
I certainly hope you’re referring to individuals on a… well, individual basis… and not on political boundries.
You see, I am from New Jersey, where are ex-Democrat-Govenor, James McGreevey, hired his Gay lover from Israel as our top dog of NJ Homeland Security. So I would gather he would fit your idea of “soft”.
To sum it up…. Democrats and Republicans… same shit, different piles! Maybe Bama can bring some respect back to the political arena…. maybe.
July 15th, 2005 at 2:48 pm“Talk about soft on defense. The London terrorists came from Pakistan.”
“…Pakistani descent…”
I am a corn-fed white boy who grew up on a farm in Oregon. My wife is a rice-fed brown girl from Hyderabab, India (Southern). I was married in India and have been there since. Anyone who knows anything of India’s struggles will tell you flat out that Pakistan should be on the “Axis of Evil” list!
July 15th, 2005 at 2:51 pmThe guys that were detained in California (reported a few weeks ago) were also said to have trained in Pakistan. The US is well aware of terrorist training camps in Pakistan.
July 15th, 2005 at 2:52 pmSusan - why don’t you ask your loser governor to fund more for homeland security instead of being constantly mired in ethical problems. STOP hating America!
July 15th, 2005 at 3:15 pmDilemma -
Instead of attacking Susan’s governor, try defending Frist slashing money for rail and transit safety measures by 50%.
Go. You’re on.
July 15th, 2005 at 3:21 pmThere is such thing as state government - homeland security is not the end all be all Darth. AND it’s wonderful talking point to crow about, but welcome to Washington DC’s pork barrel. It’s bipartisan, you know.
July 15th, 2005 at 3:24 pmSTOP hating urban America, Northeast..
July 15th, 2005 at 3:25 pmI live in NYC - I know urban America. I pay city taxes. Trust me - there is money to be spent. We’re to busy spending them on liberal social engineering programs and unions. I love urban America, but they are not strapped for cash. AND if they are - who’s fault is that?
July 15th, 2005 at 3:29 pmOne of the biggest problems that the Senate has, is that around 16% of the US Population controls around half the seats in the Senate. Does that make sense? Or should we do Proportional Representation? I agree with Northeast Dilemma though, that if they don’t have the money, it’s their fault. But we should be looking for every way possible to protect our people while we also guarantee their liberty.
July 15th, 2005 at 3:49 pmHey Jim, do you think Osama is in the Pakistan tribal area? I do.
TND- I grew up in NY. You are no New Yorker. New York republicans are reasonable folk. My whold family is republican & still there. They despise what bush43 & co have done to the republican party. They actually like Hillary. They think she’s geen good for the state. So, put it where the sun don’t shine. We don’t care what you think.
July 15th, 2005 at 3:59 pmDilema its nice that you obsess with me but aren’t you getting a bit out of control?
Ask and you shall recieve? Ha! Ha!
That only works when Bushie asks YOU for a blow job.
(A little advice) Get checked out when your done, that thing has been in Rove’s ass many times.
July 15th, 2005 at 4:29 pmHey retarded fake New Yorker, (Dilemma)
If you had a brain and could comprehend simple sentences and had even a slight vocabulary you would know what the word “promised” means.
But why would my state Government expect BushCo to fullfill any promise he makes?
My bad for expecting basic comprehension skills from a freak of nature or to expect BushCo to fullfill a promise of federal funds.
Get a clue retard. If you were a real New Yorker you’d know that Bushie has NOT fullfilled his promise to New York either.
Your mentality proves you are from the deep, sweaty south where inbreeding is still prevelant today.
July 15th, 2005 at 4:39 pmSo now NED argues that the federal government should not be doing everything it can to fight terror and protect citizens?
Interesting…
July 15th, 2005 at 5:10 pmI may be paranoid, but wouldn’t Georgie’s poll numbers rise, at least for some time, if there is another attack? By continuing to slash/underfund transit security we certainly are at risk in that area. Maybe the repugs are willing to take that risk…?
July 15th, 2005 at 5:11 pm“There is such thing as state government - homeland security is not the end all be all Darth.”
Um, you are right… BUT that is the topic of this thread isn’t it?!
July 15th, 2005 at 5:17 pmJim-
Our favorite conservative shills really don’t bother to readthe topic of these threads before they start posting in them. They usually just look to post trite and nasty comments about the posters and/or Democrats/liberals/non-conservatives.
There are relevant comments realted to the topic of the thread, and then there are comments the conservative shills make.
Never the twain shall meet.
July 15th, 2005 at 5:22 pmSusan - I am a real NYer. I live right near your favorite spot - the UN. I just happen to think for myself, not the NY Times.
John S - you have a nice weekend. This conservative shill is tired of fighting with you left wingers. I must admit, it’s been real.
July 15th, 2005 at 5:37 pmJohn S - you have a nice weekend. This conservative shill is tired of fighting with you left wingers. I must admit, it’s been real.
Given the nature of this site, any conservatives coming here would be indeed looking for a fight. The whole idea of the site is left wing based. If you were looking for a place where they would appreciate your ideas, may you look for a right activist blog (I have no idea if there are any) instead of posting arguments that are likely to develop in flame wars.
Maybe your opinions would be more welcome if this was a nonpartisan effort in debating politics rather than a left wing tool to spread their beliefs. Not that I’d think such effort is ever capable of becoming reality. From what I see so far, liberals and conservatives are both uncapable of respecting the ideals of the other.
July 15th, 2005 at 6:03 pmNED:
You have yourself a nice weekend too. I may think you’re a crackpot, but I’m not above extendin you a civil pleasantry.
:)
July 15th, 2005 at 6:13 pmDont expect me to believe anything you post Dilemma, you’re a liar.
And when you speak of ethics in Illinois, go ahead and google George Ryan and Jack Ryan. Check out Alan Keyes, now there’s a freak you can relate to.
All are Republicans who have tried their best to destroy the intergity of Illinois and failed.
I hope you have a rotten (like your crotch) weekend and melt in your dirty ol trailer.
And remember to wash that mouth out of yours.
July 15th, 2005 at 9:22 pmAnd lets not forget the honorable (lol) Henry Hyde.
You’ll love his cheatin ways.
He won’t be running for another term now that his extra-marital affairs are public knowledge.
July 15th, 2005 at 11:57 pm[…] July 14: Senate Cuts Transit Security Funding by $50 Million: Just eight days after terrorist attacks struck London’s bus and underground metro systems, conservative “leaders beat back a series of attempts – pressed by senators from states with large urban centers – to increase money for mass transit protection by as much as $1.4 billion.” [Link] […]
November 3rd, 2005 at 12:36 pm