Tonight on MSNBC’s Hardball, John Podesta, CEO and President of the Center for American Progress and former Clinton chief of staff, debated Ed Rollins, former Assistant to President Ronald Reagan and Deputy Chief of Staff for Political and Governmental Affairs (a position not all too different from that of Karl Rove’s). Podesta made an excellent point:
PODESTA: This morning, again, in the New York Times, we learned that Karl Rove in the summer of 2003 was editing George Tenet’s statement about the faulty intelligence and the faulty statement that the President made in his State of the Union address to kind of rush us into the war in Iraq. Now Ed served as the political director of the White House. I’m fairly confident that he never edited any statements by Bill Casey at the CIA.
ROLLINS: None whatsoever.
Recall that in 2003 Rove was not yet deputy chief of staff nor was he formally in charge of coordinating with the National Security Council as he is now. He was the senior political director at the White House. Why was he editing intelligence documents?
Rove was editing intelligence stuff for Bush because he is Bush's controller. See, back when Bush disappeared for a year, during the Vietnam War, Daddy and the Bin Ladens arranged for an implant in his head, with Rove being the intermediary between the Saudis and Bush. This became key for the 9/11 episode, and also explains why Bush allowed Bin Laden's family, and later Osama, and then Zarqawi, to remain free as an eternal target for eternal war. Bush is now doing Osama's work in the Middle East, generating more terrorists, and Rove is still his controller, which is why he will NEVER be cut loose. This is not John Sununu we're talking about here.
July 22nd, 2005 at 8:30 pmBush's Brain. We know Bush doesn't have one.
July 22nd, 2005 at 8:33 pmway to go John!
July 22nd, 2005 at 8:35 pmWow, John Podesta. A Clintonista extrodianare. Yea, he's credible. You lefties are a joke! Thats your problem, credibility. You lefties don't have any. You are all hated filled fools.
July 22nd, 2005 at 9:11 pmAfter the "meet the press" smackdown Podesta brought help this time? It takes to dhimmicrats to debate a republican? HA HA.
July 22nd, 2005 at 9:29 pmGood points Don. Bandur "Bush" decided to resign from being a diplomat to the U.S. He says its for personal reasons.
Yeah, its personal alright, he knows the truth about 9-11 is just around the corner and he wants out while the gettin is good.
As for Rove's editing, thats what the DSM refers to as "fixing the intelligence".
I love this country, the truth is always exposed even if it takes awhile.
Thank goodness for that.
July 22nd, 2005 at 9:35 pmPerrspectives has assembled a pretty complete Karl Rove Scandal Document Center. The key documents, articles, briefings, and timelines are all there.
And be sure to enter the Karl Rove Whack-a-Mole Contest!
Submissions end August 3rd, the 5th anniversary of candidate George W. Bush's pledge to "uphold the honor and dignity" of the office...
July 22nd, 2005 at 10:57 pmMoveon.org is doing a "letter to the editor" campaign to keep Plamegate on the front page of every newspaper around the country.
Join them by writing. Here's what I wrote. (I'm using every opportunity I can to demand impeachment).
Please keep the story about Valerie Plame a priority. Everyday there are new developements. This is a very serious issue and the American People deserve to know what is going on with Patrick Fitzgeralds investigation. The more I read about this scandal the more I believe this will reinforce the contents of the Downing Street Minutes which recieved very little press.
I didn't write to the Chicago Tribune because I know they endorsed Bush as President and will never give straight facts on this issue. I hope the Sun-Times can do a better job at reporting the facts.
Please note that over 500,000 people have signed Ramsey Clarks petition to impeach Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others at votetoimpeach.org. The peoples desire to impeach should be a priority and deems front page news.
Keep up the good work, I consider the Sun Times Chicago's best daily newspaper.
Thank you, Susan
July 22nd, 2005 at 11:23 pmI'm starting my own campaign.
When you recieve mail from a newspaper asking you to subscribe to their newspaper and you don't believe the paper reports factual news (or no news at all) this is what I recommend you do with the subscription order form.
Write on it in a bold magic marker, "F&%k off" (or something similar) and mail it in. The paper hires people to open and process mail and this should waste their time and money. Most of the time a postage paid envelope is included so this campaign costs you nothing.
Do this to credit card companies (black out your name and info) and corporations such as Walmart, Coca Cola and whomever else you know endorsed Bush or gave him campaign funds.
If you have to use your own stamp, do it and know it was 37 cents well spent.
Picture it... thousands of pieces of mail that say how you feel stacked up in mailrooms with nowhere to go. Employees saying "what is going on?".
This is easy, gratifying and sends a clear message to those who have taken your business for granted.
Who knows, this campaign could find itself on the front page of every newspaper in the country.
DO THIS ONLY TO THOSE WHO SOLICIT YOU!
July 22nd, 2005 at 11:47 pmJust for the record, I never used 'Bush' and 'brain' in the same sentence.
Mike accuses us lefties of being hate filled fools, but then the neocons say we're aplogists for terror. I'm confused. But I'm sure that we have more credibility than the fascists that invaded a country for profits and oil, while giving reasons like WMD, no -- El Qaeda, no -- democracy, no -- freedom, no -- 9/11, -- Iraqi Muslim Fundamentalist Regime Allied With The Axis Of Evil -- YES!
Impeachment is a fine cause, but futile. It's a will-o'-the-wisp hope that the CEO-in-Chief will be accused and judged by his corporate board of directors. But let's keep the pressure on. As Edward Abbey said: A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.
July 23rd, 2005 at 12:11 amAt first I thought it was a science fiction nut, but after it sunk in I realized Don is not far off. I can never understand why Bush protects the Saudis if they are a source of funding for Al Quaeda (and for 15 of the 19 in all likelihood), and have nearly identical religious beliefs. The Bushes have them down to the ranch!!! I guess I give him too much credit, I thought he was human enough to be truly shaken by 9-11. Even W. has a heart? (No, he has Rove's heart.) That means the Bushes were IN ON IT, which explains why the Administration completely ignored Al Quaeda after taking office, after being told over and over and over again by Clinton and others about that specific threat. The USS Cole had not been forgotten (as it probably would have been under this bunch.) It was foreign policy for dummies: Just focus on Al Quaeda and worry about the rest later----easy peasy! No, they wanted no part of that. Iraq was the quarry.
July 23rd, 2005 at 12:13 amDon, impeachment is only futile if you believe it is futile.
You are giving Bushie a free pass. Does he really deserve another?
votetoimpeach.org
July 23rd, 2005 at 12:16 amSusan---- Here here. Well said.
Don, it's no different from Robert Emmett. Check out his valedictory address to the British Court.
Roberts is another link in the chain. Silly left----they thought it was all about abortion rights, but no, it was about what it's always about, profit and control for corporations.
I'm signing up for the impeachment brigade.
July 23rd, 2005 at 12:19 amResponding to the outpouring of support for the planned Impeach Bush
contingent at the September 24 rally at the White House, the impeachment
movement has started reserving buses to take thousands of people to
Washington D.C.
Buses are expensive to rent, but it's impossible to have a massive
demonstration in Washington D.C. without reserving the buses, making down
payments, and starting to sell at-cost tickets now. Keeping the price of
bus tickets low is essential so that everyone who wants to participate
can come to the September 24 rally.
Impeach Bush committees are organizing all over the country for
September 24.
Buses are coming to Washington from as far away as Albuquerque, New
Mexico. There will be hundreds of cities and towns that will be organizing
buses, car caravans, and other means of transportation to come to the
White House on September 24.
Since many people will be coming from New York City and other East
coast cities, it is urgent that we reserve another 100 buses. To make the
down payment we will need to raise $25,000 in the next ten days. This is
just one of the many expenses that must be met as we build a truly
mass, nationwide impeachment movement.
Make a donation today to help fund this movement. The next few months
are a critical period and the movement can't grow without your help. To
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By the first week of August we will have a full transportation page on
the web site http://www.pephost.org/site/R?i=bpWoVneN_3YOaEnzawXYCg.. .
This page will allow everyone to see the local contact information in
their area for bus and car travel to the September 24 demonstration.
On September 24, the ImpeachBush.org contingent will rally in a huge
area called the Ellipse - the park at the south side of the White House -
for which the anti-war coalition A.N.S.W.E.R. has secured a permit. The
Ellipse is literally at the front door of the White House.
September 24 will be a historic day. Hundreds of thousands of people
July 23rd, 2005 at 12:20 amare coming together to engulf the White House in a sea of humanity - to
demand an end to the illegal war and occupation of Iraq, and to insist
that President Bush, along with Cheney, Rumsfeld and others be impeached
for their criminal conduct. Their lies have resulted in the deaths of
so many thousands of innocent people - and they must be held
accountable.
Regarding impeachment...I believe that the only way it has a chance is if the American people demonstrate that they have had enough of the crap that passes for this administration and the Republican party with its chairman Mr. Melman, and uses the court of public opinion to condemn and sentence GWB and company to impeachment and to prison for treason and murder...enough is enough. Wake up America...we deserve much better than what we've got...
July 23rd, 2005 at 1:59 pmI agree...keep the pressure on, and make it hotter than hadies for GW and all his sycophant cronies.
Bushco has an active campaign to link any suggestion that the president, via Rove & the neocons falsifications (going to war in Iraq, appointments, budgets & tax breaks, etc) are tantamount to treason "in times of war".
They are playing a very high stakes poker game in which we have seen they have a bluff hand. They think they can buffalo the people & press because it worked the first term. They're scared because they see here that many very important people within the administration are guilty of lying under oath. It's not going to be just Rove & they see that. So they're pulling out all the stops w/ blunder & rhetoric now.
Luckily for us, it isn't working this time. Dunbya's teflon was cheap like his administration and is starting to flake early in life. The press smells blood, and we all know how they love a good feeding frenzie. No, this one is gonna cost them, so they are going to try and drag this whole thing out 2 more years. It's their only remaining out.
If the nation went after President Clinton with impeachment for lying about a non national security adultery, this administration stands hugely more culpable in being brought to the same standards. Except this time, it WAS & IS about national security issues and the trust and faith we hold our elected leaders to.
It's time to Impeach President Bush for lying to the American people to take us to War in Iraq. Tell every elected official you have. Tell them 10 times a week. It was the republicans that got Nixon to resign when they finally turned their back on him. Nows the time to tell your officials it's their turn to represent your views in our nations interests.
I'm not going to hold my breath that it will happen soon. Watergate took almost 2 years to come to fruition. It's time to start laying the groundwork now. It'll sure help us in defending the policies we share against a corrupt and untrustworthy administration.
July 23rd, 2005 at 3:39 pmThere will be no impeachment as long as the GOP controll all the branches of goverment, including the press and the judiciary.
July 24th, 2005 at 3:16 pmSadly I believe mudkitty is correct.
These bastards control way too much of the government and media. The media being a big part.
Why is it that everybody I talk to about Bush has no idea what is going on. I explain what is really going on and they are shock ed to hear it. Every single person that I have told the truth to wants Bush impeached, but we don't see the mass media reporting on that. The mass media just repeats what the Bush gang tells them to.
You can visit many different mainstream media web sites or watch the TV stations and you will get literally the same exact story repeated by everyone. It makes me sick to my stomach that there aren't any real reporters anymore. Nobody is willing to step forward and say it like it is.
"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"
July 24th, 2005 at 7:01 pmJust one question, why would a mere "political advisor" need this kind of clearance? At the time of the leak, Rove was just that a political advisor, not dep. chief of staff, so what purpose would it serve to give this man security clearance?
July 24th, 2005 at 9:05 pmRove's last defense:
"I was only kidding. Come on guys, you know I'm just a kidder? Right?"
July 25th, 2005 at 6:58 am