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Federalist Society Transcript: John Roberts Was A Member

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By Judd on Jul 25th, 2005 at 5:38 pm

Federalist Society Transcript: John Roberts Was A Member»

The media seems to be having trouble figuring out whether John Roberts was a member of the Federalist Society. Maybe they should just read the transcripts from Federalist Society events. Here’s a quote by Elliot Mincberg of PFAW at a Federalist Society event on 9/9/03:

Anybody who honestly believes that people like Miguel Estrada and John Roberts were selected solely because of merit without any view whatsoever about their points of view, their membership in the Federalist Society, other things, I have a bridge I would love to sell them.

No one else on the panel objected to Mincberg’s description of Roberts, including Leonard Leo, the Federalist Society’s executive director.

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  2. The Janitors, American Federalist Urinal Says:

    Really, look at the depths you leftists are willing to sink to. Reading the toilet paper that poor man tracks out of the john on his shoe.

    July 25th, 2005 at 5:59 pm
  3. 3rdman Says:

    Well, is it any surprise that the only place the republicans tend to leave the truth is in the toilet?

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:12 pm
  4. Phil Throckmorton Says:

    Federalist Society isn’t exactly the Birch Society (or even the Burke Society, or the Cato Institute for that matter). What’s the big deal? Better to spend time battling for (and on) more substantive ground.

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:17 pm
  5. Mr Blifil Says:

    Awesome catch.

    This lie, this feigned memory lapse on the part of Roberts should be enough to scuttle the appointment, in my view. The lie is on it’s face, unacceptable, especially for consideration for the highest court in the land. But the contemptuous manner in which it is being handled, feigned memory lapse, is a real outrage. This is not a time to get cute, or to chuckle about how you are gaming your opponent. This is time for a very serious nomination process, and telling a whopper about one’s resume is usually all that is required for the job interview to be terminated with extreme prejudice.

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:22 pm
  6. Ugh Says:

    That is, quite frankly, the thinnest read I’ve seen in awhile.

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:23 pm
  7. EasyRider Says:

    Well I am posting this again.

    To: Senator Reid, July 21, 2005

    I think all the Democrats need to be asking all nominees what organizations or institutes they are or have ever been involved with. Require them to identify all such organizations, and provide information on the political slant thereof.

    Follow up with requests for membership lists and donors lists, and issues and policies advocated by these organizations.

    Of real interest is the Council for National Policy (CNP). Do they know members? Are they a member? What is their relationship to organizations that has had or has members to CNP?

    Have they been involved with organizations that have political slants that want to change the direction of America, or influence the moral direction of America?

    Thanks,

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:24 pm
  8. Lyle Says:

    He wasn’t a member of the Federalist Society. He never paid dues.

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:26 pm
  9. Mr Blifil Says:

    How did he get on the Steering Committee without paying dues?

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:28 pm
  10. Jay Says:

    You know these clowns are off their game if they can’t even pull off the small lies, they should probably just tick to the biggies…seems to have worked so far.

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:30 pm
  11. HUAC Says:

    Federalist Society isn’t exactly the Birch Society (or even the Burke Society, or the Cato Institute for that matter). What’s the big deal? Better to spend time battling for (and on) more substantive ground.

    All of these groups are the same thing in a less appalling, more appealing wrapper. It’s called marketing and stealth.

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:32 pm
  12. EasyRider Says:

    Let us get the secrets that the GOP wants to hide. Memberships and association with groups that are against Americans needs to be outed. Once outed their members need to be impeached, if in office, and barred for life from any and all involvement with politics or elections.

    Let’s kick the wasp’s nest: Who wants KKK members running their government? Oh, yes. I remember that is your GOP aand CNP. How could I forget that?

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:34 pm
  13. HUAC Says:

    He failed to pay his dues! Delinquent on his debts! Bad credit! That will keep you off the court. Thanks for pointing that out Lyle! Did you come over from the dark side to the light?

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:34 pm
  14. Phil Throckmorton Says:

    My loose understanding is that you can wind up on the Federalist Society steering committee the same way you can wind up in the National Public Radio leadership circle. That is to say, if you do something nice for them (like speak at an event or three), and you look like a potential big donor, then you’re honored with an appointment that you may never even be aware of if you don’t read your junk mail.

    I’m not crazy about Roberts, but this is a non-issue.

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:37 pm
  15. Lyle Says:

    People. He was contact for the steering committee. He wasn’t on it.

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:50 pm
  16. Lyle Says:

    Going to an organizations events or helping out an organization doesn’t mean you are a member of that society. Lots of people just assume if you’re a conservative jurist that you’re in the Federalist Society. Just like conservatives mistake some liberals for being members of the ACLU.

    Both organizations are respectable groups.

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:53 pm
  17. Strathmore Says:

    Oh my goodness not the dreaded Federalist Society??!!! Those crazy people who want to maintin the foundation built by Hamilton, Jay and Madison…..only in America.

    July 25th, 2005 at 6:53 pm
  18. Jay Says:

    The Fedralist Society and ties to it only seem to a problem for the people that are trying to disassociate Roberts from it. If he was up front about it I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Why the need to lie?

    July 25th, 2005 at 7:05 pm
  19. Phil Says:

    Exactly. Decaf already.

    July 25th, 2005 at 7:09 pm
  20. David Says:

    There are already too many Federalist society members on the court, and we have seen what kind of damage they can and have done to the country.

    Apparently one person’s activist IS another’s constructionist.

    July 25th, 2005 at 7:17 pm
  21. EasyRider Says:

    His lies don’t count, just like Scotty’s lies don’t count. They were not under oath.

    It it funny how Bush and Cheney are never questioned under oath.

    9/11 commission
    Plame case
    What else have they been questioned on and not been under oath to tell the truth.

    God fearing people really don’t have a problem of being under oaths to tell the truth before God and everyone one else.

    Only fools let liars and criminals testify without swearing in under an oath. Or is this honesty among theives?

    How about passing out some Bibles at all the press conferences for Scotty, Condi, Bush, Cheney, and GOnzales. Let us see if they want to dodge the Bibles before the people’s eye.

    July 25th, 2005 at 7:22 pm
  23. Brian Says:

    Dianne Feinstein just had some hot sports opinions about Rove on “Hardball”. Let’s email these folks and let them know we agree with her that Rove should have security clearance revoked.

    Rep. King, Peter (R-NY-3rd)
    Sen. Hutchison, Kay Bailey (R-TX)
    Sen. Cornyn, John (R-TX)
    Sen. Coleman, Norm (R-MN
    Rep. Blunt, Roy (R-MO-7th
    Sen. Graham, Lindsey (R-SC)
    Sen. McCain, John (R-AZ)
    Sen Roberts, Pat (R-Ks)

    July 25th, 2005 at 8:03 pm
  24. HUAC Says:

    Oh my goodness not the dreaded Federalist Society??!!! Those crazy people who want to maintin the foundation built by Hamilton, Jay and Madison…..only in America.

    Comment by Strathmore — July 25, 2005 @ 6:53 pm

    Anyone who claims to know what “original intent or meaning” the framers had is a liar. The originalists are to the constitution as literalists are to the Bible. It’s obvious you have no knowledge whereof you speak. The constitution is often a vague and ambiguous legal document, by design.

    July 25th, 2005 at 8:04 pm
  25. Ryan Neat Says:

    HUAC,

    Very true. Not to mention the fact that Hamilton was against states rights (pro federal power), and didn’t believe in federal debts and deficits - which couldn’t be more opposite than the current government. Frankly most federalists are like most christians, they only believe what’s convenient for them to subjegate and oppress others, and rarely even read or understand the rest…

    July 25th, 2005 at 8:14 pm
  26. HUAC Says:

    Thank you, Ryan. The constitution was designed to be a foundation and a framework that would last by growing with the times and the nation. If there was any original intent, aside from those explicitly enumerated, that was it. It was intended to be a living document, open to interpretation and amendment. It was not intended to be a Bible. Jefferson’s Letter to Samuel Kercheval is instructive.

    Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the arc of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment. I knew that age well; I belonged to it, and labored with it. It deserved well of its country. It was very like the present, but without the experience of the present; and forty years of experience in government is worth a century of book—reading; and this they would say themselves, were they to rise from the dead. I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accommodate ourselves to them, and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy, as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors. It is this preposterous idea which has lately deluged Europe in blood. Their monarchs, instead of wisely yielding to the gradual change of circumstances, of favoring progressive accommodation to progressive improvement, have clung to old abuses, entrenched themselves behind steady habits, and obliged their subjects to seek through blood and violence rash and ruinous innovations, which, had they been referred to the peaceful deliberations and collected wisdom of the nation, would have been put into acceptable and salutary forms. Let us follow no such examples, nor weakly believe that one generation is not as capable as another of taking care of itself, and of ordering its own affairs. Let us, as our sister States have done, avail ourselves of our reason and experience, to correct the crude essays of our first and unexperienced, although wise, virtuous, and well—meaning councils. And lastly, let us provide in our constitution for its revision at stated periods. What these periods should be, nature herself indicates. By the European tables of mortality, of the adults living at any one moment of time, a majority will be dead in about nineteen years. At the end of that period, then, a new majority is come into place; or, in other words, a new generation. Each generation is as independent as the one preceding, as that was of all which had gone before. It has then, like them, a right to choose for itself the form of government it believes most promotive of its own happiness; consequently, to accommodate to the circumstances in which it finds itself, that received from its predecessors; and it is for the peace and good of mankind, that a solemn opportunity of doing this every nineteen or twenty years, should be provided by the constitution; so that it may be handed on, with periodical repairs, from generation to generation, to the end of time, if anything human can so long endure. It is now forty years since the constitution of Virginia was formed. The same tables inform us, that, within that period, two—thirds of the adults then living are now dead. Have then the remaining third, even if they had the wish, the right to hold in obedience to their will, and to laws heretofore made by them, the other two—thirds, who, with themselves, compose the present mass of adults? If they have not, who has? The dead? But the dead have no rights. They are nothing; and nothing cannot own something. Where there is no substance, there can be no accident. This corporeal globe, and everything upon it, belong to its present corporeal inhabitants, during their generation. They alone have a right to direct what is the concern of themselves alone, and to declare the law of that direction; and this declaration can only be made by their majority. That majority, then, has a right to depute representatives to a convention, and to make the constitution what they think will be the best for themselves.

    July 25th, 2005 at 8:47 pm
  27. mudkitty Says:

    Strathmore. That’s hardly true.

    July 25th, 2005 at 8:50 pm
  28. HUAC Says:

    It’s totally untrue.

    July 25th, 2005 at 8:52 pm
  29. HUAC Says:

    False, even.

    July 25th, 2005 at 8:53 pm
  30. HUAC Says:

    The irony is that the ACLU is the organization that actually does what Strathmore thinks the extremist wingnuts at the Federalist society claims, (falsely), to do. You have to realize that your average American would, if given the chance, repeal most of the important protections in the Bill of Rights. Back in the 70’s some university conducted an experiment. They sent kids out to collect signatures on a petition that was essentially the Bill of Rights, but disguised. Most Americans were opposed to it. Anyone who says the ACLU is a liberal organization is an idiot and an extremist moron.

    July 25th, 2005 at 9:02 pm
  31. EasyRider Says:

    HUAC–Can you provide a link to where Jefferson letters and the alike can be found?

    It would be nice to have a reference use for educating the braindead trolls.

    Great posting!

    July 25th, 2005 at 9:12 pm
  33. HUAC Says:

    Here’s the Kercheval letter

    http://teachingamericanhistory.org/ library/ index.asp?document=459

    And my favorite… for the religious wingnuts, The Jefferson Bible.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

    July 25th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
  34. EasyRider Says:

    Thanks HUAC

    July 25th, 2005 at 9:39 pm
  35. EasyRider Says:

    I have added all of your links to my favorites so I may view them later.

    Thanks HUAC

    July 25th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
  36. Ron Says:

    Is he qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice?

    Has he been smoking reefer like Douglas Ginsburg?

    Is his nose clean?

    Let’s list all of his faults.

    He’s a scoundrel.

    John Roberts

    July 25th, 2005 at 10:15 pm
  37. FedSoc Says:

    Sigh. And you people wonder why we rule the world. Good job quoting Jefferson about the Constitution. He’s really the source to go to, given that he was in France at the time of the Convention. And this quote, I love this one. “Not to mention the fact that Hamilton was against states rights (pro federal power), and didn’t believe in federal debts and deficits - which couldn’t be more opposite than the current government.” Yeah you should try learning some history before you hold forth. Hamilton argued for the assumption of the state debt by the Federal government. He wanted to use that debt to establish a strong national currency. He actively fought efforts to pay off the debt. This horrified Jefferson, who along with his Treasury Secretary Gallatin, worked to bring down the debt and almost paid it off before the Louisiana Purchase and War of 1812. Now personally, I’d rather have the debt than not have Louisiana and have lost the war. Of course, I have common sense and don’t do things like compare the Federalist Society to the Klu Klux Klan, which is not only ridiculous, but also offensive to every African American or immigrant who had to suffer at that evil groups hands.

    July 25th, 2005 at 10:16 pm
  38. Koolhandluke Says:

    I think the Press Secretaries comment about Roberts not remembering being a member of the Federalist is like a john saying he doesn’t remember if he ever visited a brothel. Of course Judge Roberts knows whether he is or was a member. McClellan’s creditability went right out of the window when he said Rove and Libby had nothing to do with leaking to the Press. If Roberts is a member of any club he should not be ashamed to admit it.

    If they’ve already started lying for him and he’s lying, god help this Country. The Right is always saying they don’t want Judges to legislate from the Bench, but isn’t that what Rhenquist, Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy and all of them are doing on a daily basis. It basically comes down to one man’s Junk being another man’s treasure. None of them have a leg to stand on. The Right wants things their way and the left wants things their way.

    Any Judge who goes to the bend with his mind already made up about any issue shouldn’t be on any court. Because when they do, left or right, they shred the Constitutional this Nation was founded on. The founding fathers must be turning over in their collective graves, when they see what this Country has come to. One side divided against the other, spitting vicious words at the other side as if they weren’t true Americans. This Country loses something when we divide along stupid lines. We will never be great because the shine and luster has gone away. It has been replaced by hateful people on both sides, who can get along and do what’s best for America.

    President Lincoln said, “A house divided cannot stand”, and even the great Ronald Reagan did not hate people who disagreed with him. I see only hate speech on both sides and the Statue of Liberty would cry real tears if she could. We should be focused on those who really are the enemy rather than each other. As a veteran, father, and American patriot, it hurts my heart everyday when I see my Country being torn apart.

    I have two little boys and I’m not so sure this is the America I want them to grow up in anymore. I wish Mr. Reagan was still alive to show us the way, he would know what to say, how to make them put their swords away. The day he passed away I cried, and a piece of America died.

    Although I’m a Democrat I don’t follow them blindly into the desert. I don’t hate Republican’s, I just disargee with most of what they stand for. Mr. Reagan was President while I was in the military and that’s why I believed in him so much. http://www.plainnews.blogspot.com

    July 25th, 2005 at 10:25 pm
  39. Christopher Says:

    I’m Daddie-licious!!!

    Gay Upper class Republicans:
    Gay and over 55, calling all disco queens, come join us at http://artichokeblog.blogspot.com/

    Older is bolder and beauty is in the eye of the older beholder.

    Chat me up at christopher@isp.com or artichoke@isp.com.

    July 25th, 2005 at 10:46 pm
  40. cynical ex-hippie Says:

    Reagan lied about plenty. And he called the jihadists the moral equivalent of our founding fathers. Don’t wish for the man who armed our enemies in the first place.

    And you’re right that there is no reason to hate people who have a different world view, or disagree in to achieve it.

    After all, hating political opponents is what got Karl Rove in trouble.

    July 25th, 2005 at 10:55 pm
  41. Bill Says:

    I think the MSM has done a good job of dumbing down like a lot of the country. Seems doing research, fact finding, cross checking, being curious is not required. better to read euro news.

    July 25th, 2005 at 11:30 pm
  42. Brother Festus Says:

    #37 Comment by FedSoc — July 25, 2005 @ 10:16 pm

    A broad gauge gossip. And like a gossip, such drivel.

    July 26th, 2005 at 12:04 am
  43. HUAC Says:

    Of course, I have common sense and don’t do things like compare the Federalist Society to the Klu Klux Klan, which is not only ridiculous, but also offensive to every African American or immigrant who had to suffer at that evil groups hands.

    Do you mean the African Americans (or immigrants) who were owned by the men in question. The ones who are revered by the Federalist society? I do believe they were called slaves back then. But, if you had any common sense, you’d know that. If you had any sense at all, or eveb a shred of common decency, you’d shut before you continue to make an ass out of yourself.

    July 26th, 2005 at 2:16 am
  44. Brother Festus Says:

    Abortion in Early America (Book Notes: The Angel of Ashland)
    Abortion has probably existed for as long as self-conscious animals have existed - pregnancy may be part of a species natural life cycle, but not every individual who becomes pregnant wants to remain that way and some will go to great lengths in order to end a pregnancy.

    In The Angel of Ashland: Practicing Compassion and Tempting Fate, Vincent J. Genovese writes:

    Contrary to popularly held beliefs, abortion is not historically steeped in illegality. In colonial America there were actually no written laws banning abortion. It was rather loosely controlled by common law (unwritten laws handed down over generations). Abortion was permitted so long as it was done before quickening occurred. Quickening referred to that point in time when a woman could feel movement of the fetus (usually around the fifth month).

    http://atheism.about.com/b/a/181914.htm?nl=1

    July 26th, 2005 at 2:22 am
  45. BlahgDayAfternoon » Blog Archive » Quick Link … Says:

    […] To a new Think Progress article […]

    July 26th, 2005 at 4:02 am
  47. Daniel G. Says:

    October, this year

    July 26th, 2005 at 6:51 am
  48. FedSoc Says:

    Men like Alexander Hamilton who founded one of the first abolitionist societies in the United States? It s true that many of the Founders owned slaves. It is also true that many did not. Yes Jefferson was a hypocrit, but his words in the Declaration were an inspiration to slaves and abolitionists alike. Furthermore, while the Constitution was a thoroughly political document designed to bring unity to a disparate populace, it nevertheless laid the groundwork for the eventual liberation of the slaves. The Founders were not perfect, but now you are comparing them to the Klu Klux Klan? Lawless bands of murderers who hung, disembowled, and burned innocent men, women, and children? You think there is some correlation between the men of the 1910s-1960s and the men of 1776 who created the first true representative democracy in the world? I’m the ass? People like you are the conservatives greatest allies.

    July 26th, 2005 at 6:56 am
  49. EasyRider Says:

    FedSoc–
    Comparing the Founders of the U.S. Constitution to the KKK? Why only gutless GOP would do that. The Federal Soceity that is now ran, controlled, and held hostage by the GOP extermists, well that is another matter. Federal Soceity (their members) about the same as the KKK. Sounds about right.
    All they need is a chain, a pickup truck, and anyone non-GOP and hey they are ready take down the road. You breed so much hate speeches that you inspire those of you of low intelligence, and little ability to think for themselves, to commit crimes for the GOP, against the follow Americans, against doctors, nurses, and patients, and most especially anyone you and ilk target as enemies. You see you need enemies else there is no way the GOP can win.

    July 26th, 2005 at 7:17 am
  50. FedSoc Says:

    If you honestly believe what you have written, then you are the one who is truly blinded by hate.

    July 26th, 2005 at 7:23 am
  51. HUAC Says:

    Not hate, anger. Anger, and no tolerance for ignorant bigots.

    July 26th, 2005 at 8:20 am
  52. HUAC Says:

    Men like Alexander Hamilton who founded one of the first abolitionist societies in the United States?

    You should go back to the study of your “history”. And try a nice liberal arts college, none of this conservative revisionist bullshit you are spouting. You don’t know WTF you are talking about. However, if John Roberts can be on the steering committee of the Federalist Society without being an actual dues paying member, I suppose it’s possible that Hamilton actually founded the New York Manumission Society, but was just listed as an officer, to protect his reputation, ya know.

    As an adult, Hamilton consistently opposed slavery, served as an officer of the New York Manumission Society and tended to hold the southern planter class in low regard. It should be noted, however, that, as a true pragmatist, he was willing to compromise on issues of slavery in the interests of strengthening the union. The South’s slave-based economy, after all, provided the raw materials that drove the economic engines of the North, which Hamilton regarded as the essential foundation for the country.

    July 26th, 2005 at 9:24 am
  53. FedSoc Says:

    A couple things. The word liberal in liberal arts college isn’t actually a political designation. Just wanted to let you know that. And um, yeah Alexander Hamilton co-founded the New York Manumission Society, the first of its kind in New York, with John Jay and 28 other men in 1785.

    Furthermore, I find it interesting that people on this blog seem to actually believe that we brought down the WTC. We can’t keep Rove a secret. We can’t keep it a secret that Roberts was in the Federalist Society. But we can commit one of the greatest crimes in human history and no one has found us out?

    July 26th, 2005 at 9:55 am
  54. HUAC Says:

    Actually, it was Abigail Adams that convinced Hamilton to support the society in New York. She pointed out the obvious hypocrisy. John Adams Mass. state constitution was the first to actually propose abolishing slavery. Burr was actually more vociferous in his oppostion to slavery than Hamilton. Jefferson entertained ideas of the negroes inferiority until his death. No one here has proposed what you suggest. This indicates that your reading comprehension skills are as poor as the rest of your intellectual abilities. Stay over at the Federalist Society where you can pretend like you know something. They have short memories over there.

    July 26th, 2005 at 10:55 am
  55. FedSoc Says:

    Check out post number 46 bud.

    July 26th, 2005 at 11:04 am
  56. HUAC Says:

    Oh, please. Any moron can post comments here. You may have posted that comment for all we know. If Think Progress starts topic threads like that, you get back to us, OK?

    And while we are at it, if you want to cite history from New York History societies (no agenda or bias there) you should they are selected to put the state and state history ain a favorable light. Here is your history of emancipation in New York. Short and sweet because that’s how a big history buff like you wants it.

    http://www.slavenorth.com/nyemancip.htm

    July 26th, 2005 at 11:13 am
  57. HUAC Says:

    And don’t call me bud. I’m not your bud and I wouldn’t cross the street to piss on your head if your hair was on fire.

    July 26th, 2005 at 11:17 am
  58. Steve J. Says:

    HUAC - thanx for the great Jefferson quote & link.

    July 26th, 2005 at 12:09 pm
  60. HUAC Says:

    I take them all and flush them down the toilet, after I pee on them.

    July 26th, 2005 at 12:45 pm
  61. Big Al Says:

    For what it is worth, a recent article in the Washington Post states that you can be a member of the Steering Committee without actually being a member of the Federalist Society. It really is a distinction without a difference, since the important point is that John Roberts is a conservative and agrees with the principles of the Federalist Society. Like it or not, he is the best nominee for the Supreme Court we are going to get out of this President.

    July 26th, 2005 at 12:52 pm
  62. David Says:

    Let’s see, someone is linking to the Moonie Times, and expects to be taken seriously. Wow.

    No offense, but that is just silly.

    July 26th, 2005 at 4:02 pm
  63. HUAC Says:

    Like it or not, he is the best nominee for the Supreme Court we are going to get out of this President.

    Comment by Big Al — July 26, 2005 @ 12:52 pm

    So we just dig in our heels and stonewall until 2006 when we may be able to put them all in prison. Or does being called an “obstructionist” scare you? It’s what the majority of Americans want right now. If only enough Democrats had the balls, or weren’t GOP lite.

    July 26th, 2005 at 4:20 pm
  64. HUAC Says:

    The Times and UPI is a joke, not that I take issue with that particular piece, but the Manhattan Institute…

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/ index.php?title=Manhattan_Institute_for_Policy_Research

    The Hamilton Society, eh, it has Steve Clemons on the advisory board, and a few other people that I would hi-five, but again, it’s the Hamilton Society, and we aren’t discussing Hamilton’s economic policies here.

    HNN? There are plenty of things I find unappealing about some people and programs at George Mason U.

    July 26th, 2005 at 4:29 pm
  65. HUAC Says:

    HUAC - thanx for the great Jefferson quote & link.

    Comment by Steve J. — July 26, 2005 @ 12:09 pm

    My pleasure, Steve J. I could even dig up a few that Jefferson would agree that, in hindsight, proved he was the very “barbaric ancestors” he was afraid we might labor under the tyranny under, if we did what the morons at the Federalist Society, and other psuedo-conservatives advocated. Turn back the clock on over 200 years of hard fought and won progress and enlightenment.

    July 26th, 2005 at 4:57 pm
  66. Charlie L Says:

    It’s not the membership that matters…

    It’s the lying about it.

    For Roberts to allow Scotty to claim he didn’t REMEMBER is disingenuous at best and outright deceitful at worst.

    It’s like Clarence Thomas claiming that he had never thought about the issue of Roe v. Wade in HIS hearings. Some Senator should have simply said: “Well, sir, if you had told me that you had considered it, but since it might come before you some day, you wish not to answer, that I might accept, and if you had told me it was ‘none of my business’ that I might accept, but if as a lawyer and a scholar and a jurist you are going to tell me that you have never even considered one of the most important cases of our time, then I am going to have to call you either a liar or an idiot, but either way, unfit for the Supreme Court.” That’s what a Senator SHOULD have said.

    Same with Roberts. He can stand up and say “Yes, I’m a member of this organization, and I’ve been on its steering committee and SO WHAT?” But when he LIES, he shows he’s just like all the other Republicans — lying trash who will say and do anything to get what they want.

    It’s not the treason — it’s the lies.

    Charlie L
    Portland, OR
    CLL2001@Gmail.com

    July 26th, 2005 at 7:02 pm
  67. Hans Bader Says:

    Why on earth would Leonard Leo of the Federalist Society even know whether Roberts was a member?

    The Federalist Society is said to have 35,000 members. Perfectly ordinary lawyers join it to network, just the way they join other bar associations. Do you really expect an officer of a bar association that large to remember all of the association’s members?

    If not, then his silence about Mincberg’s claim that Roberts is a member says nothing about whether Roberts is or was a member.

    August 10th, 2005 at 5:07 pm
  68. Think Progress » Justice Department Tracked Federalist Society Influence On U.S. Attorneys Says:

    […] Court nomination hearing, Chief Justice John Roberts repeatedly sought to distance himself from a connection to the conservative legal group, unwilling to be tarred by its […]

    April 13th, 2007 at 1:12 pm

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