Bolton Isn’t Permanent
Bolton Isn’t Permanent
President Bush just announced he was installing John Bolton as ambassador to the UN with a recess appointment.
Bush and Bolton repeatedly described his appointment as “permanent,” which has been the administration’s talking point for the last several days.
State Department spokesman Sean McCormack last Friday:
We need a Permanent Representative up in New York. Ambassador Patterson is doing a great job up there with her team on the issue of UN reform, but the United States, at this important moment in the debate about UN reform and what areas we move forward on, we need a Perm Rep up there.
White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan last Friday:
We need our permanent representative in place at the United States at this critical time. There is an effort underway to move forward on comprehensive reform The United Nations will be having their General Assembly meeting in September, and it’s important that we get our permanent representative in place.
Of course, installing Bolton does not give the United States a “permanent” representative to the UN in any real sense. His term will expire in January 2007, which is little more than a year and a half away. If the administration was really interested in a representative with some permanence, President Bush would nominate a candidate who could be confirmed by the Senate.
UPDATE: A number of commenters note that “permanent” is part of Bolton’s official title. That’s true. But the point of the post is that, just a few days ago, the administration decided to start emphasizing the word “permanent” as part of their talking points justifying Bolton’s recess appointment. Note that when Condoleezza Rice introduced Rice on March 7, she referred as “Ambassador to the United Nations” not “U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations.”
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Ed note: When this post was updated, the comments were deleted. But I’ve recovered them and they appear below. Please carry on the debate.
1. Bolton to UN, Hell Cools
Yet more proof that the Administration is completely blinded by its own desires, ragardless of reality, morality much less the will of the People. I just got the headline emailed to me from the Wall Street Journal, whose AP story
Trackback by Party of the Purple  August 1, 2005 @ 10:47 am | Edit This
2. That should be all the time Bolton will need to clean up the U.N. I think once people see the dirt that Bolton will uncover, they will agree that Bolton was the right choice. Watch out Kofi!
Comment by Sam  August 1, 2005 @ 10:52 am | Edit This
3. Notlob better get to work. He has a short time to demolish the top ten floors of the UN.
Let’s appoint a pyromaniac fire commissioner.
Comment by G.S.  August 1, 2005 @ 10:56 am | Edit This
4. Bolton v. Kofi, are you KIDDING me????
Comment by progressive and proud  August 1, 2005 @ 10:56 am | Edit This
5. More back door actions by an obviously lame duck.
Comment by If it quacks like a duck  August 1, 2005 @ 10:56 am | Edit This
6. Quack Quack
Comment by progressive and proud  August 1, 2005 @ 10:56 am | Edit This
7. I sure hope Sam was posting in sarcasm. You gotta know what a dick you are if you meant that.
Comment by kindness  August 1, 2005 @ 10:59 am | Edit This
8. Dumb question: Am I right in thinking “diplomatic immunity� applies only to diplomats in foreign (to them) lands accused of crimes there?
I ask ‘cuz I keep worrying that somebody in the WH is now breathing a sigh of relief since they think they’ve beat any charges Fitzgerald might bring against Bolton. (Perjury, for instance.)
Comment by just john  August 1, 2005 @ 11:01 am | Edit This
9. All I hear from Democrats lately is whining, whining, whining. When is anyone from your party ever going to say anything positive or come up with any ideas on how to do it better? Critism of the Bush administration has gotten you what?
Comment by Sam  August 1, 2005 @ 11:08 am | Edit This
10. January 2007 is plenty of time for the neocons to have Diebold steal them some more Senate seats so they can get this nutjob confirmed.
Comment by Gary Kleppe  August 1, 2005 @ 11:11 am | Edit This
11. guys, the “permanent� in “permanent representative� is not a qualifyer: it’s his full international title. It means that he is not an ad hoc ambassador, for a certain issue or department of the UN. The permanent representative is the person in charge of ALL U.S. interests for ALL of the UN.
God, liberal bloggers are just as bad as conservatives when it comes to distorting words …
Comment by yann  August 1, 2005 @ 11:12 am | Edit This
12. King George got his way after all:-(
Comment by Zoli  August 1, 2005 @ 11:23 am | Edit This
13. MSNBC is having a live vote on whether Bolton is the right man for the job. You may want to express yourselves with a vote.
Current listing 26% yes, 74% no.
Comment by kindness  August 1, 2005 @ 11:44 am | Edit This
14. Sounds a little like the whining in the 90’s, though not nearly as bad.
A positive idea: Bolton for Chief Paper Shredder at the WH.
Comment by John  August 1, 2005 @ 11:47 am | Edit This
15. Sheesh. The name of the position is “the U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations�
Comment by Marblex  August 1, 2005 @ 11:57 am | Edit This
16. “Permanent Representative� is the TITLE of the job, you morons! UN ambos are accorded the rank of ambassador by their governments, but all of them are known as “Permanent Representative.� The fact that Bolton is a raging eff-wit doesn’t change that.
Comment by Traven  August 1, 2005 @ 11:59 am | Edit This
17. As expected, President Bush Monday morning made a recess appointment of John Bolton to the post of UN ambassador for the United States. This, despite Bolton’s inability to get Senate approval, his lie regarding his testimony in the Plame affair, and the possibility of his own involvement in a White House orchestrated smear campaign against the Wilsons. Bush’s move, though, may be less about his famed loyalty or legendary intransigence, and more a diversion designed to distract attention from his scandal-plagued White House.
Call it chaos theory or simply a smoke-screen. By whatever name, the President is banking we’ll be discussing John Bolton and not Karl Rove. And there’s nothing we can do about, not at least, til the mid-term elections of 2006.
For the full story, see:
“Chaos Theory: Bush & the Bolton Diversion�
Comment by Jon  August 1, 2005 @ 12:01 pm | Edit This
18. If anyone is going to “crash and burn� in the spotlight, it is Bolton. Finally, some real reality TV.
Comment by John  August 1, 2005 @ 12:16 pm | Edit This
19. John, that is exactly what I was thinking. Since we can’t stop this snowball of pay-backs and back scratching that IS the WH until 2006, we should sit back and watch this out-of-control weasel implode (or explode, I’m still debating). He is his own worst enemy and people like that can’t and won’t calm down, even for their own selfish sake.
Comment by progressive and proud  August 1, 2005 @ 12:23 pm | Edit This
20. Bolton is a lame duck ambassador and no one at the U.N. will take him seriously. He’ll be gone by 2007.
Comment by NutWrench  August 1, 2005 @ 12:29 pm | Edit This
21. –I hate to pile on, but in addition to the “permanent� problem, Judd, January 2007 is LESS than a year and a half away, not more.
–Hey, let’s get real. The UN Representative is a ’so what’ position. He’s just a mouthpiece for the State Department. The world’s work, a lot of it, can proceed without the United States. It just means that Bolton and the US will be marginalized on important world matters, which is not entirely a bad thing. Yeah, as PAP says, let him implode/explode on his own. So let’s drop it and focus on Roberts. Force HIM to be a recess appointment too (it’s been done before).
Comment by Don  August 1, 2005 @ 12:41 pm | Edit This
22. Another disaster for the Bush cabal.
. . .
Comment by Christopher  August 1, 2005 @ 12:50 pm | Edit This
23. Clearly Bush and Bolton understand something we don’t. Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.
You’ve got to be strong to go against the will of the people in times of crisis.
Comment by Brian  August 1, 2005 @ 1:11 pm | Edit This
24. I guess here is my point; you can agree or not.
There are so many conservatives in DC and in government that aren’t tainted and would have made GREAT ambassadors and carried bushco’s water every which way.
Bolton has made an complete ass of himself in State, Condi didn’t want him but Cheney wanted to protect him as he is one of Dick’s boys. So dumbya does what dumbya has done in the past, he promotes him!
This wasn’t about the right man for the job. This was a great big F___ YOU to the UN & the centrists/democrats/liberals here in the US.
Our current leader is a spoiled little child and will continue to run things that way ’cause that is where he’s coming from. Me, I can’t wait till he goes back to where he’s coming from, we’ll all be better off then.
Comment by kindness  August 1, 2005 @ 1:12 pm | Edit This
25. “Bush’s love is like bad medicine. Bad medicine is what we need�
Comment by Brian  August 1, 2005 @ 1:16 pm | Edit This
26. Can anyone of you tell me just how many recess appointments Bill Clinton made? Bolton should have been confirmed months ago. This just proves that Bush is not the lame duck president you all think he is.
Comment by Always Right  August 1, 2005 @ 1:18 pm | Edit This
27. Didn’t Clinton make like 144 appointments?
Comment by sam  August 1, 2005 @ 1:18 pm | Edit This
28. Maybe one day we’ll understand the depths of Bush’s wizdom.
Comment by Brian  August 1, 2005 @ 1:18 pm | Edit This
29. Always Right,
You’re,well, right. A divided nation should not weigh in the recess appt. decision. It should be done with the assetiveness and aplomb of a master. It’s hard work.
Comment by Brian  August 1, 2005 @ 1:22 pm | Edit This
30. #9, boy you are a wing nut!
Better bolton down your trailer house, I hear there is “GUNNA BE A BIG DRAFT� in the very near future.
and … wouldn’t you enjoy your time better watching Bill (i’ll grab your butt) O’Reallybigmouth republithug lap dog?
This forum is for open minded people discussing the current administration (laugh) and their short comings. Not yours. If you don’t agree, we will take a page out of your Neo-Nazi shrubya’s book and squash you, leak you, out you and generally in your face flip you off…..
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 1:25 pm | Edit This
31. I have a suggestion, Sam. Stay out of the UN if it sucks so much. Stop trying to change things you don’t like.
But that does not fit the agenda, does it? No. The UN, like Christians, are a tool for the GOP. Sometimes you need it, sometimes you don’t.
Comment by Brian  August 1, 2005 @ 1:28 pm | Edit This
32. One of the many of Bush’s moronic quotes comes into play here. It’s the one in which he said it would be easier if he were a dictator. He also has the attitude that nothing matters but winning. You can destroy Democracy with Diebold, lie, cheat, doesn’t matter. Just so he gets what he wants and in the process attempts to veil his actions by focusing on his Religious Reich credentials that keeps his base in tow.
Comment by Cheryl  August 1, 2005 @ 1:29 pm | Edit This
33. How in the h#ll anyone can support EVERY decision junior makes is beyond me. It is so unbelievable that I know they can’t be serious, just looking for an argument.
Comment by Keith H.  August 1, 2005 @ 1:31 pm | Edit This
34. “he said it would be easier if he were a dictator�
People with souls don’t even toy with the idea of saying such a thing. That should be the ONLY Democratic campaign slogan.
Comment by Brian  August 1, 2005 @ 1:33 pm | Edit This
35. It is amazing that Clinton got anything done, what with all the witch hunts he had to battle.
Clinton lied about sex with a fat ugly republithug paid whore. Everyone knows that the far right wing nuts believe that is so much worse than….
lying about war, squashing the people that blow the whistle, flip off the media, and tell people to “go f*&&& yourself�.
and lest we not forget…. shrub (the smarter) was the one that recruited, trained and paid (CIA payroll) Osamma BEEN FORGOTTEN for the last 30 years.
Do a web search on Chris Floyd “Bush family whitewashing in Iraq and Nazi Germany�… it is the Reader’s Digest version of the shrub corruption.
so, to quote the man behind the curtian.. (cheeney)…
#9 “go fu*&&% yourself�
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 1:33 pm | Edit This
36. Bolton has said he will work to restore the U.N. to its original charter. See Charter below; how did this organization get so far off track and why are liberals so supportive of this corrupt organization? I think it is obvious that they have not been living up to their charter in the last decade or so.
WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED
to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and
to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and
to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,
AND FOR THESE ENDS
to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and
to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and
to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and
to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,
HAVE RESOLVED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS
Accordingly, our respective Governments, through representatives assembled in the city of San Francisco, who have exhibited their full powers found to be in good and due form, have agreed to the present Charter of the United Nations and do hereby establish an international organization to be known as the United Nations.
Comment by sam  August 1, 2005 @ 1:36 pm | Edit This
37. Sam, the good Lord gave you 2 (TWO) ears but ONLY 1 MOUTH….there is a very good reason for this, idiots should spend twice as much time listening and half as much time talking.
Minds like parachutes ONLY WORK properly when OPEN.
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 1:40 pm | Edit This
38. Cutting and pasting civics docs don’t count, Sam. Bush does not care about UN. Bush cares about nation building.
You’re a sheep.
Comment by Brian  August 1, 2005 @ 1:42 pm | Edit This
39. kjlovell,
Tell me again why you are opposed to reforms in the U.N.? Do you honestly believe that nothing is wrong? Or are you just being an obstructionist like those democrats in the Senate? I think it is time to put politics aside and do what is right.
Comment by sam  August 1, 2005 @ 1:43 pm | Edit This
40. shrubya does not care about nation building.
shrubya ONLY cares about building the family fortune and power.
pure and simple. a spoiled little rich CONneticut brat that calles himself a TEXAN. A real problem for REAL Texans.
If you people would research shrubya, even a little you would understand that these people are pure EVIL.
This is a ploy to take the media attention off of ROVER.
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 1:45 pm | Edit This
41. You’re right, kjlovell. I’m done with Bolton.
And Frist.
Comment by Brian  August 1, 2005 @ 1:47 pm | Edit This
42. Sam,
By the way, are you a real republithug? I mean does your bank account actually looke like a Real republithug, or are you just opposed to civil rights and equal treatment for all Americans?
How do you feel about Gay Marriage?
Your answer to that one question will explain why you are so so not parachute material.
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 1:47 pm | Edit This
43. Keep the heat on, kjlovell. These are the pro Rove talking heads.
Rep. King, Peter (R-NY-3rd)
Sen. Hutchison, Kay Bailey (R-TX)
Sen. Cornyn, John (R-TX)
Sen. Coleman, Norm (R-MN
Rep. Blunt, Roy (R-MO-7th
Sen. Graham, Lindsey (R-SC)
Sen. McCain, John (R-AZ)
Sen Roberts, Pat (R-Ks)
Comment by Brian  August 1, 2005 @ 1:49 pm | Edit This
44. Also, you don’t ask Hitler to protect the Jews.
Botlon is JUST WRONG!
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 1:50 pm | Edit This
45. Thanks Brian.
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 1:52 pm | Edit This
46. I lied. Bolton looks like an older, more refined Ned Flanders. NOW I’m done.
Comment by Brian  August 1, 2005 @ 1:54 pm | Edit This
47. Brian, you crack me up!!!
Ned Flanders, the perfect bible thumping, underpaid, under sexed, middle class, overly wrong REpuglican!!!
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 1:56 pm | Edit This
48. snappy sam seems to have had a house dropped on him after the question about his stance on Gay Marriage.
HMMMMM>
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 1:57 pm | Edit This
49. The UN is broken Sam. No argument about that – but why send an asshole to fix it? US has also contributed to the UNs impotence – by always siding with Israel – right or wrong. The problem with Bolton is that his approach is that since the US is “top dogâ€? then we will run the UN and the UN will bend our way and NEVER disagree with US policy. Some diplomat -then what do you expect from your whack jobs running our beloved country.
Comment by dicky  August 1, 2005 @ 1:59 pm | Edit This
50. #9 – “Critism of the Bush administration has gotten you what?â€?
See that’s the difference: we’re not in this to “GOTTEN� us something.
We merely agree with Pat Roberts (R_KS) when he said that a Bolton recess installation “would weaken not only Mr. Bolton but also the United States�.
Comment by Ohioan  August 1, 2005 @ 2:02 pm | Edit This
51. Have you noticed that EVERYONE associated with shrubya has a questionable past?
Rove – dirty tricks with dirty dick nixon, association with undesirable shrub(s). Election scandals spanning over 30 years and now TREASON.
Cheeney – dirty tricks cooking Halliburton books, the same stuff Enron is made of, but tricky dick cheeney is teflon. Selling the public on an unjust and illegal war. Obstruction of justice and Treason.
Shrubs of various ages – war mongering, obstruction of justice from Iran Contra to Rovergate, war profiting from WWII to present. Can’t even eat a pretzel unless sober. and so much more not the least of which is TREASON.
Roberts – dirty election tricks 2000 florida, covering the iran contra trail, biggotry. and the list goes on
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 2:18 pm | Edit This
52. also, the curator of the Florida Holocaust Museum detailed how they (shrubs and other undesirable greenry) spirited away Nazi War Criminals … to great places like….. are you ready?…..AMERICA, Argentina, South America… and yes boys and girls the Pope fed and entertained the war criminals at the vatican.
and the truth shall set you free……
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 2:19 pm | Edit This
53. Take heart everyone, just like Hitler’s last days in the bunker…when he knew defeat was near but kept on fighting a losing battle anyway:
bush, cheeney, rove, libbey and all the rats know the end is near. They think their bunker mentality will rub off on the dumb Americans…but it won’t.
Hell, even Hitler had the good sense to kill himself in spite of Prescott Bush and George (the smarter one) telling him they could get him out of Germany with the REST of the war criminals.
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 2:22 pm | Edit This
54. Bolton?
Think the UN better install carpet runners in the aisles before the world diplomats wear a path from walking out.
Comment by Slim  August 1, 2005 @ 2:27 pm | Edit This
55. I don’t think bolton will help much with this part of the UN charter.
AND FOR THESE ENDS
to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and
to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and
to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and
to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,
Comment by Krazny  August 1, 2005 @ 2:30 pm | Edit This
56. With the appointment of “Yosemite Samâ€? – with a reported temper to match – as the U.S. representative to the United Nations, we have another display of reckless behavior by GWB, who led the nation into an unjust, unwarranted war in Iraq for which we were unprepared. Repugs will say the president has a right to appoint whomever he chooses and, technically, they are correct. I believe, however, that representatives to the UN represent, not only their leaders, but their respective nations to the world. John Bolton does not have support of the country, nor does he have support in Congress; he represents only our very belligerent leader. Our “What, me worry?â€? president, Alfred E. Neuman is, indeed, our own King George.
Comment by Marie  August 1, 2005 @ 2:32 pm | Edit This
57. Thanks for the factual corrections to those who posted re: the name of the job. I like how we police our own on the left-wing blogs. When’s the last time you saw a freeper say to another freeper, “Gee, I don’t think that’s correct�… and not get banned?
Comment by The Witch  August 1, 2005 @ 2:33 pm | Edit This
58. Sam,
August 1st, 2005 at 3:10 pmWhat can YOU offer that demonstrates ANYTHING good done by the Bushies? Everything they touch is sh–. The Democrats have alternatives to everything, but the press would rather kiss Bush’s behind. People like you are just blind – you can’t see what’s happening all around you.
Comment by Marie  August 1, 2005 @ 2:34 pm | Edit This
And for this one point you delete all the comments that people’d had? :—( I rather liked the back and forth about the job title. I think it showed how well we “police our own.” I commented that we can clean our own house and don’t feel the need to whitewash it, but can the other side do the same. Now that’s been whitewashed :( :( Oh well, your blog, your rules. I still would give an arm and a leg to be your proofreader, so I suppose I shouldn’t complain.
August 1st, 2005 at 3:11 pmyou missed Sam’s last comment and my rebuttal It all may be lost anyway.
=(
August 1st, 2005 at 3:11 pmAnd I should spend less time writing comments!!! :blush:
August 1st, 2005 at 3:11 pmJust to clarify, all the comments, including the ones about the job title appear above. They were deleted accidently and recovered.
August 1st, 2005 at 3:14 pmI don’t get it. Does anyone really doubt the administration was using “permanent” as a talking point?
August 1st, 2005 at 3:20 pmBolton did such a good job with North Korea. The UN will have its own nuclear weapons by 2007.
August 1st, 2005 at 3:35 pmStrike while the iron is hot!
Fire Karl Rove!
Here’s today’s email that some of us are sending out. Feel free to copy it and paste it in your email program. Please send to as many Mainstream Media contacts as you can!
Thanks to Sands.of.time for the opening 2 paragraphs:
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I don’t know about you, but I smell a traitor to the life and liberty of the American people. In fact, the stench is so noxious, it must be many traitors. Even past tyrants could not have been called such reeking traitors, because they did not have America’s high ideals to serve.
Americans will be true to themselves and their country in the voting booth if they are given the right information
Will any of you give them that information? Do you enjoy taking part in the disassembling of the American Democratic System? Why was Clinton’s sex scandal front page news, but Rove’s CIA leak is not? Why is there so much hate speak and fascism in your ranks? Are some of you of the belief that this country is better off now than it was before? How is that so? Who will you espouse your conservative rhetoric to when the middle class is sleeping in the gutter after losing their jobs thanks to CAFTA? What television will we watch if we can’t afford the gas to get to work? Who will your sponsors sell their products to when the majority of the consumers are waiting in the breadlines, or sitting in a soup kitchen? Perhaps your sponsors would be better at answering these questions?
—
-BeNt
August 1st, 2005 at 3:46 pmex-hippie
I think that someone else is responsible for the North Korean nuclear program. Time to recheck your facts.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17007
August 1st, 2005 at 3:53 pmWhat can YOU offer that demonstrates ANYTHING good done by the Bushies? Everything they touch is sh–. The Democrats have alternatives to everything, but the press would rather kiss Bush’s behind. People like you are just blind – you can’t see what’s happening all around you
I could say the exact same thing about democrats and you know it would be true. If it were not, they would be winning more elections now wouldn’t they. The democratic party is in the process of imploding under the direction of Dean. I would have to disagree with you on the press issue, it seems they bash him on every opportunity unless you are listening to Rush or watching FOX. I think you would be enlightened if you did, but I don’t think thats the case. As far as good things Bush has done, here is a short list:
1. Prevented another attack by terrorists on U.S. soil and created the department of homeland security to protect us.
2. Restarted the economy, it had started to slow in the summer of 2000, well before he was elected, with tax relief and we now have unemployment at 5% and GDP growth at 3.5%.
3. Liberated 50 million people from tyranny in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I could go on but I don’t want to be here all day.
August 1st, 2005 at 4:00 pmSam I could go on all day why you are wrong, but I won’t. Needless to say I think that were going to see a change in the 2006, and 2008 elections.
As for finding Fox news enlightining I doubt it. Watching Hannity fellate cheney is not my idea of entertainment.
All of points you brougt up in you prior post are bogus. Please get off the kool aid and read the news.
August 1st, 2005 at 4:06 pmSomehow, shreiking and twisting in the wind doesn’t conjure up the tolerance of “progressives” on the left – I expect a big sloppy “group huG” when we discuss the UN. Even Demrats should know better. I’m shocked that proud liberals can defend the UN – that bloated, corrupt organization – what about all of the sexual abuse by UN “peascekeepers”? What about Darfur today and Rwanda a decade ago? What about contributing to the starvation and deprivation of the poorest Iraqis – corrupt fleabag UN officials skimmed what they could before that pig Saddam and the evil ones surrounding him (including his own spawn). Save your moral superiority – it doesn’t wash.
August 1st, 2005 at 4:26 pmHow can you morally defend bush?
War, big budget, big government, Tax handouts to already rich companies and people at the expense of the working class.
Is that what you belive in Alexa?
August 1st, 2005 at 4:33 pmWe Made the Move from July to August
A new month and more linkage from The WB42 5:30 Report with Doug Krile. Bolton, DNA and Wal-Mart among the topics today.
August 1st, 2005 at 5:26 pmAlexa, there is a much longer laundry list of abuses by Republican administrations over the past 20 years. The corruption and unaccounted funds in the U.S.-led Iraqi reconstruction far exceeds the oil for food scam. And the first man arrested in the oil for food scam was a Texan. What about the rape and murder of nuns in Central America by Negroponte’s allies? What about Rumsfeld giving Saddam guns in the first place? Bush holding hands with a tyrant on his ranch? How do you feel about 9/11’s chief funder stepping foot in Crawford, Texas? Clinton apologized for Rwanda. Bush is ignoring Darfur today. So tell us again about this moral superiority?
August 1st, 2005 at 6:58 pmSam, if you believe that those points you noted are actually good for America, you are more far gone than I thought.
August 1st, 2005 at 7:52 pmEvery point you made is a Fox talking point — full of fact-free information, having nothing to do with the reality of truth.
#10 (the new one)
Well sam I am still waiting to see if your what I think you are.
What is your stance on Gay Marriage?
Again, minds, like parachutes only work properly when they are open.
I still suspect you ARE NOT PARACHUTE MATERIAL. Your response on my question will determine what kind of person you are.
You are pro bush, pro bolton, I suspect you don’t like anyone of color. I also suspect that you long for the good old days of Johnson and slavery.
August 1st, 2005 at 8:45 pmAgain, You don’t ask Hitler to protect the Jews.
BOLTON IS JUST WRONG. WRONG JOB, WRONG PERIOD.
August 1st, 2005 at 8:45 pmI suspect sam gets ALL of his information from Bill (i’ll pat your butt) O’Reallybigmouth.
I also suspect he is not TRUE REPUGLICAN material. I bet he has never seen more that $3000 at one time in his life.
He does however have the makings of a good storm trooper in the new SS.
August 1st, 2005 at 8:48 pmFor any who missed it earlier,
42. Sam,
August 1st, 2005 at 8:49 pmBy the way, are you a real republithug? I mean does your bank account actually looke like a Real republithug, or are you just opposed to civil rights and equal treatment for all Americans?
How do you feel about Gay Marriage?
Your answer to that one question will explain why you are so so not parachute material.
Comment by kjlovell  August 1, 2005 @ 1:47 pm | Edit This
U.S. Senator Russ Feingold, a Wisconsin Democrat who as a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee has been a leading advocate for bipartisan approaches to foreign policy, spoke well for America — and for this country’s shattered tradition of respect for the UN — when he said on the day of the recess appointment: “Mr. Bolton is fundamentally unsuited for the job, and his record reveals a truly disturbing intolerance of dissent. Mr. Bolton did not win the support of a majority of members of the Foreign Relations Committee, and the Senate refused to make a final decision on this nomination pending review of documents that the Administration declined to provide in blatant disregard for the Senate’s constitutional rights and responsibilities. But despite all of the warning signs and all of the red flags, the President has taken this extraordinary step to send a polarizing figure with tattered credibility to represent us at the United Nations. At a time when we need to be doing our very best to mend frayed relationships, encourage real burden-sharing, and nurture a rock-solid international coalition to fight terrorism and the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, the American people deserve better than John Bolton.”
August 1st, 2005 at 9:11 pm#12, are you REAL?
I readdress all my comments about sam the sham to him AND ALEXIS OF EVIL.
August 1st, 2005 at 11:04 pmI have always said there is no way in the world that the German people didn’t realize what was happening in thier country. I said people could not possibly be so blind to that kind of crazy leadership. There is no way that the people couldn’t realize that a crazy man had taken control and no one do something about it.
But the more no one objected, the more bold they became, until….
SS busting into homes and spiriting away people to their torture and deaths. People turning in their neighbors and family.
The politics: the more evil the person the more power they got.
The fellow crazies that joined the rank and file and supported him to the end. How could they have all been lead astray?
NOW I KNOW. GERMANY WAS FULL OF REPUGLITHUGS, CLOSED MINDED, OPEN MOUTHED REPUBLI-THUGS. ONLY THEN THEY CALLED THEM NAZIS.
August 1st, 2005 at 11:14 pm# 23 kjlovell
August 2nd, 2005 at 3:53 amtotally agree with you.
When people compare Hitler with Bush they are (understandibly) shocked and outraged because when you hear the name Hitler you automatically associate it with the unspeakable atrocities of killing millions of Jews.
But this is not what the comparison is actually about. (Bush won’t go gas millions of people) – but fact is: Hitler didn’t get up one morning and think “Gee, what am I gonna do until lunch? Oh I know, I’m gonna kill a few million people!”
The similarities of how he got to power, how he got (mindless) people following him without questioning any of his actions and motives and turning on every fellow citizen who DID disagree with their ‘oh so great leader’ is scary.
The propaganda, owning and controlling the media, holding so-called “town-meetings” with ONLY supporters of his administration and having people arrested for simply disagreeing with their point of view, lying every time he opens his mouth and getting away with …. that IS SCARY!
rgds
Sylvia
For you interested boys and girls that don’t know how the shrubs got their fortune, how this is not even the second time they have profited from war (yes boys and girls I am speaking about their overt support of Hitler in WWII) do a search for Chris Floyd – CounterPunch.
It is the reader’s digest version of the shrub perversion!
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