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Breaking: Novak Explodes Live on CNN

By Mipe on Aug 4th, 2005 at 4:58 pm

Breaking: Novak Explodes Live on CNN»

Just now on CNN’s Inside Politics, in the midst of a ho-hum discussion about Katherine Harris’ Senate race:

Novak: Just let me finish what I’m going to say, James, please. I know you hate to hear me —

Carville: He’s got to show these right-wingers that he’s got a back bone, ya know? Wall Street Journal editorial page is watching. You show ‘em you’re tough…

Novak: You know I think that’s bullshit. And I hate that. Just let it go.

Novak removes his microphone and walks off the set.

Update I: Novak Was About to Be Asked About Leak The Inside Politics host ended the Carville/Novak segment saying, “Thanks, James Carville. And I’m sorry as well that Bob Novak left the set a little early. I had told him in advance that we were going to ask about the CIA leak case, he was not here for me to be able to ask him about that. Hopefully, we’ll be able to ask him about that in the future.”

Update II: Media Matters has the video.

Update III: Flashback to the first time Ed Henry challenged Novak to talk about the Plame leak, on June 29. Novak wasn’t very happy then, either:

HENRY: Do you understand why in general there’s frustration among fellow journalist after 41 years of distinguished work, where you’ve always pushed and been a fierce advocate of the public’s right to know, you’re not letting the public know about such a critical case, and two people may go to jail.

NOVAK: Well, they are not going to jail because of me. Whether I answer your questions or not, it has nothing to do with that. That’s very ridiculous to think that I am the cause of their going to jail. I don’t think they should be going to jail.

HENRY: Yes. But I didn’t say you were the cause. But there are some people…

NOVAK: Yes, you do did.

HENRY: No, but some people feel if you would come forward with the information that you have, that maybe they would not go to jail.

NOVAK: But you don’t know — Ed, you don’t know anything about the case. And those people who say that don’t know anything about the case. And unfortunately, as somebody who likes to write, I’d like to say a lot about the case, but because of my attorney’s advice I can’t. But I will. And there might be some surprising things.

HENRY: We’ll all be waiting to hear that story finally told, Bob.




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325 Responses to “Breaking: Novak Explodes Live on CNN”

  1. Krazny Says:

    who was carville talking about?


  2. Skid Says:

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Bob.

    Aww screw it, let it hit you hard.


  3. Hank Says:

    What a dipshit. Novak can dish it out easy enough when he has a liberal on the carpet.


  4. Flamethrower Says:

    it’s hard work being a traitor……….lots a stress.

    You guys just don’t understand.


  5. Jesus Christ God of WAR Says:

    Novak should be in jail for what he did. I’m glad he blew his cool on-air.


  6. Jennty Says:

    Just like all the NeoCons? Remember when O’Lielly walked off the set when Terri Gross was interviewing him? Same sort of thing… they can dish it out, but like most Chickenhawks, can’t take the heat of incoming rounds.


  7. little m Says:

    is that type of language allowed? poor Bob can’t take the heat…


  8. Ryan Neat Says:

    Like all CONservatives - they check out when confronted directly. Their brain is so pre-conditioned to live in their fantasy - that a direct confrontation which challenges these lies is met with either their full shutdown or them taking their ball and going home.

    The ‘truth’ so undermines their delusion - that they can’t integrate it, and the psychosis they seem to almost all universally suffer from REQUIRES they shut out that truth. I attribute this to child abuse. So many CONservatives I’ve met as ‘friends’, all seem to have very dysfunctional relationships with an overly dominant father that restricts their emotional and psychological development. They develop some wierd hatred of women - and turn into absolute freaks!


  9. EasyRider Says:

    It is about time.


  10. G.S. Says:

    BOOO HOO ……….Tee HEE HEE HEE


  11. Reality Says:

    Novak belongs in a cell at Guantanamo Bay.


  12. kindness Says:

    I haven’t looked but I have no doubts that the righty blogs are now saying what a he man he was in the face of a scurrilous liberal like Carville.

    Ya know, if a democrat had done any of this while Clinton was President, he’d have been burned at Ken Starr’s which-hunt stake by now (and proclaimed evil).

    See this? You don’t? It’s the worlds smallest violin playin’ for ya Bob….


  13. kindness Says:

    duh-oh! witch, not which.


  14. paddykraska Says:

    I really think we should all start calling CNN and demanding an on air apology for Novak’s language!! His demeanor & language were far uglier than whats-her-faces boob.
    I can honestly tell CNN that my children were alarmed by his language. (that my children are furry & were alarmed by my whooping at his language, they don’t need to know)
    He did it on purpose so not to have to talke about the leak.


  15. Chris S. Says:

    I sure hope all the conservative Christians watching flip out just as much as they did with the Superbowl Show. I doubt they will but it would be nice to see them hold their convictions when a fellow conservative behaves as poorly as Novak did. Will CNN have to pay for his foul language? Maybe a lifetime ban from CNN is in order. Stay Tuned


  16. Krazny Says:

    wonder if we can get the FCC to issue a fine?


  17. becca walton Says:

    Did you see the Arlen Specter op-ed on Novak 8/4 ?


  18. little m Says:

    wonder how CNN will reward Bob’s temper-tantrum.
    novak is suppose to be a professional journalist (and yes, I just choked on that comment). journalist go after every little bit of scandel - it appears that journalist are the ones that are the ones who are very thin skinned.


  19. Spudge-Boy Says:

    All it takes for a fine is 12 people to complain. I’ll be number one, anybody else wanna join in?


  20. DT Says:

    I was watching when he he flipped. It was the funniest thing I’ve seen in a while. I’m wondering if I should complain to the FCC. I would’nt in any other case.


  21. ytterbius Says:

    Damn, at first I though he had literally exploded.


  22. Krazny Says:

    If Novak was fined I would say we should complain.

    otherwise who cares. john stewart has said worse on his show, and they didn’t bleep it out.


  23. Flamethrower Says:

    is that type of language allowed? - if you’re a R, yes. Like when Britt Hume said “balls” to Juan Williams on FNews Sunday.

    IOKIYAR.


  24. Brian Says:

    It was “Sit”. His dentures were a jinglin’ and a janglin’.


  25. paddykraska Says:

    I already called.
    It was fun!! I got to play outraged Conservative mom to 4… he he


  26. chris Says:

    CNN is on cable. It’s not regulated by the FCC.

    Still, I feel pretty certain that Novakula just violated CNN policy.


  27. bmatth Says:

    OMG. What a grand day. I love live TV. That said, it would seem it was more like Bob changed his mind about being questioned in the Plame/Wilson matter. Albeit a dramtic ploy but a ploy all the same.


  28. little m Says:

    the FCC should not have to wait for complaints - they go ahead and should investigate and issue a fine. but then, the FCC is run by bush’s boys so it’ll be another slap on the wrist and walk for novak.


  29. Christopher Says:

    Reality bites and this time it bit the treasonous Robert Novak in his fat, sagging ass.

    Run along bastard and medicate yourself at the Palms.

    . . .


  30. Billie Jo Says:

    The questioner, Ed Henry, had questioned Novak pretty hard a few weeks ago and Novak hadn’t been on this portion of the show since then. He just couldn’t take the heat apparently. Carville’s comment was no different than he usually is. Bob’s getting old and probably can’t sleep at night knowing Judith Miller sits in jail (where he should be instead).

    When was the last time a Dem cussed/walked off one of these hot sessions on the air?


  31. setosiris Says:

    Next breaking story: CNN finally gets a ratings showing that outdoes recent liberal election results (i.e. losers) thanks to Novak….


  32. Louis Says:

    I’m sure it was just a “language mishap.”


  33. Skid Says:

    Billie Jo,

    Both Novak AND Judy deserve to be in jail. Judy’s far from innocent.



  34. little m Says:

    I agree novak should apologize for his language - CNN should insist on this, but my guess is that if novak actually did apologize he would sned it in writing cause he wouldn’t have the guts to do it facing a camera.


  35. RSA Says:

    Carville: He’s got to show these right-wingers that he’s got a back bone, ya know?

    This is not quite right; I think it was actually, “You’ve got to show these right-wingers that you’ve got a back bone. . .” which makes a bit more sense out of the situation:

    1. Carville starts talking over Novak.
    2. Novak says, “Let me finish what I’m gonna say. . .”
    3. Carville keeps talking, saying that he (Carville) has to stand up to rightwingers (Novak).
    4. Novak says that’s bullshit and walks out.

    It’s as if Novak had never been on a political talk show before. It seemed to me that he was upset about the etiquette of the situation. Bizarre.


  36. Jerome Waldron Says:

    I am glad to see someone stand up to a person who can’t stop listening to himself…it is a wonder that more people don’t just walk off of some of these news programs. Good job Bob Novak


  37. John Says:

    It’s Novaks’ pre-interpretive play of the Iraq pullout!


  38. Jonny Fantastic Says:

    Please, Novak has dealt out and been on the recieving end of far worse than this. This was a bizarre, unprofessional scene on Novak’s part. I can’t wait to see what Jon Stewart does with this on the Daily Show.



  39. Skid Says:

    #37,

    Are you defending Novak?


  40. John Says:

    Novak has broken down the 4th wall of the political shill. Bravo.


  41. Ryan Neat Says:

    “It’s as if Novak had never been on a political talk show before. ”

    He hasn’t. Most media allows right wing hosts to shut off the camera and microphone of anyone who says something truly confrontational to their right wing buddies. OLeilly and HandJob do that all of the time. Novak is just not used to having his head handed to him, and showed what a bunch of wussies the right wingers all are. He just demonstrated another example of the bully principle. Dems need to take a lesson in this - they’re all really wimps trying to overcomponsate and they can’t handle truly direct confrontation!


  42. Plaid the Unveiler Says:

    Today’s Bob Novak-CNN detonation is just a symptom of the increasing pressure. The CIA-Valerie Plame Leak story is DIRECTLY TIED to the ongoing Pentagon spy story. The common factor is named “Michael Ledeen” - Google that using the news setting, you’ll see that Ledeen is behind a LOT of the pressure that Novak is feeling. It’s all coming to a head. The count-down to the end of the Bush White House has officially begun.

    I’m also betting that another HUGE story is about to break, probably a high government official being hospitalized. Maybe a terrorist attack in Israel.


  43. jim in st louie Says:

    You lib’s are such sore losers. Don’t look now but you party is a cult of dope addicts, ulgy people and fools… keep it up!


  44. Zookeeper Says:

    Novack didn’t crack up, he rigged the whole performance. He knew Carville would say something he could take offense at and he would use that to walk off the set. Look at his face, he was releived, not angry.


  45. Simon Mc Says:

    Maybe he is angling to be let out of his contract for the fortress-like protection of a FOX NEWS job.


  46. Zookeeper Says:

    #45 - ulgy people? Is that near Ukraine?


  47. Ryan Neat Says:

    jim,

    Bahahaha, how funny you are! Coming from someone who voted for a coke head alcoholic that looks like howdie doodie - bahaha…

    Considering that the majority of actors, models and other beautiful people are democrats - I’d say your little delusion must be really important to your mental stability for you to cling to it in the absolute onslaught of evidence that shows you are a stupid, fat ugly rube for a redneck state…


  48. John Says:

    Very Andy Kaufmanesque.


  49. Ryan Neat Says:

    Simon,

    If Novak is shown to have lied to his editors about the Plame incident - he might need a new job… I bet the pressure is heating up on him!


  50. Jeff Says:

    Language malfunctions seem rampant in this Administration. Oh, you mean Nofacts isn’t part of this Administration? Oh of course not! *nudge* *nudge* *wink* *wink*!


  51. zyx-LOL Says:

    #45

    Drug addicts? Like Rush Limbaush? Like Jeb Bush’s daughter? Sore losers? Who are we talking about who just walked off a tv set–Bob Novak, noted “liberal”?

    David Brock was right when he talked about how YOU guys are given to projection, 24/7!

    (For all I know, you are even an “ulgy” person)


  52. jim in st lou Says:

    Hey ryan,

    Oh yes, I forgot about that the “actors, and models” the big clique of dope head delusionals that you morons worship. Yes, I’d put my life an the future of my country in there hands any day….what a great base for a political party…actors, and models… Dope.


  53. dicky Says:

    #45 - people that get cheated - might be just a tad “sore”. Sore losers are the repugs in the
    Washington state elections.

    Make certain elections are fair an honest - then if the taliban right wing wins - then I will stfu, until then - you jim can stfu.

    Novak should be in jail ALONG with Judith.


  54. RS Janes Says:

    Ah, when the going gets tough, the ‘tough’ get going –right out the door.

    I saw Bag-eyed Bob giving some speech on C-SPAN to young conservatives; he looked shaky and even more like a resurrected corpse than usual. I swear, he was rolling his eyes like an elephant getting a fire hose enema.

    It could be that his lawyer has informed him he’s being indicted by Pat Fitzgerald for perjury, obstruction of justice and — possibly — even treason under the Espionage Act of 1917. How would that look on Mr. Patriotic Conservative’s All-American resume?


  55. Plaid the Unveiler Says:

    Michael Ledeen is Karl Rove’s international affairs advisor, a close friend of John Bolton, Ledeen was formerly a member of Bush’s Defence Policy Advisory council, he was a “Project for a New American Century” advocate and close friend of some Italian fascist spies *recently arrested in Italy*. He’s also a friend and colleague of Lawrence Franklin, who was *indicted in the Federal courts* TODAY (again!) Ledeen is widely believed to be the man who ACTUALLY FORGED the “Niger Yellow-Cake” document that started the CIA-Valerie Plame investigation - He also wrote a book (back in the 70’s) about the glories and the righteousness of a new concept called “World Fascism”.

    The fascists and the Nazis aren’t a controversial, rhetorical IMAGINARY LINK, thy’re REALLY LINKED.

    We the People didn’t make that link, the Bush administration did - whenever they decided to HIRE Michael Ledeen.

    The countdown continues…

    …tic, tic, tic, tic, tic…


  56. Ryan Neat Says:

    “Oh yes, I forgot about that the “actors, and modelsâ€? the big clique of dope head delusionals that you morons worship.”

    Delusional morons? We don’t worship you! As for dope heads - I noticed you had no response to the fact that you continue to vote for one. Why do you hate american so much?

    ” Yes, I’d put my life an the future of my country in there hands any day….what a great base for a political party…actors, and models… Dope.”

    Hmmm…. Yet your future IS in the hand of coke head alcoholic - keep drinking the koolaid rube!


  57. Buzzbait Says:

    The transcript is available here


  58. Rogneid Says:

    I’m still laughing! I wonder if he’s got a padded green room?


  59. Skid Says:

    jim w/head in the lou,

    What does this story have to do with Hollywood celebrities? Go back to huffin’ paint. Its the only excuse for your idiocy.


  60. Terry Says:

    Bob is the terry schiavo of pundits, pull his plug, long overdue.



  61. jim in st lou Says:

    Well, god bless you. I wish the best for you. I really don’t belive that you think Old W is a alcho coker. that’s just retoric.
    Time for me to go to the zendo and have a little sit.
    good luck.


  62. jim in st lou Says:

    skid mark 61,
    see #45, 49, 54
    also, get a hair cut you bum.


  63. dicky Says:

    #64 actually W has acknowledged being an Alchoholic, and his adventures with Coke are legend. He may/may not be doing it anymore - though the pretzel incident makes one wonder. His apparent inability to speak the english language in a coherent manner maybe do to the partying he did in the past. Alcholol gives you a buzz by killing brain cells.


  64. Jackie Rawlings Says:

    Novak is not longer respected and his career is finished. But he’s right Rove, Libby and Bush will not get fired. Bush will give an exective order for himself and friends. We have the new US that has a dictator and until the Americans stand up he will rule.


  65. Plaid the Unveiler Says:

    The Unified Field Theory of Rampant GOP Corruption:

    No matter HOW good your juggling skills are, it’s just IMPOSSIBLE to keep THIS many scandals aloft all at once!

    CIA-Valerie Plame Leak Investigation
    The Pentagon Spy Scandal
    Robert Novak/Karl Rove’s Leaking History
    (got Rove FIRED from the Bush 41 campaign!)
    John Bolton’s Secret Intelligence Requests
    Scandals of the Bush administration’s Archivist
    The Lawrence Franklin Indictments
    The “Nigerian Yellow-Cake” Forgery
    The Downing Street Memo

    Several of the 9-11 Hi-Jackers Showing-Up ALIVE - doing TV interviews for BBC reporters

    …and sadly, what Greg Palast calls:
    “The Silence of the Media Lambs”

    It’s all linked together thru Ledeen.


  66. John the Elder Says:

    Regarding #8 above isn’t it the same reason that Bush’s public appearances are all scripted and the audience is hand picked Repuglicans…so he won’t have to think off the script…Birds of a feather, Bush and Nofacts, O’Lielly and Hannity and of course Limberger.


  67. Keith H. Says:

    9-11 hi-jackers alive ???
    Haven’t heard that one.


  68. caged Says:

    Jim in St. Lou:
    “Oh yes, I forgot about that the “actors, and models� the big clique of dope head delusionals that you morons worship.�

    uh-huh, Like Raygun? Like Arnold?




  69. Keith H. Says:

    Unveiler, thanks for the link.
    Unbelivable.
    Things just keep getting weirder by the day.


  70. BIGBUSH Says:

    Bob rocks, Carville is a fairy.


  71. Brian Says:

    #45 Ugliest people I ever seen in St.Louis


  72. gop mama Says:

    I think james C is a big old sexy man!!!


  73. Marie Says:

    #12 World’s smallest violin — I love it!! It’s perfect.


  74. Plaid the Unveiler Says:

    Has anyone here ever tried typing “www.cokedealer.com” into their address bar and then hitting the “Enter” key? …just wonderin’.

    =* )

    All things being equal, the simplest, most obvious answer is usually the right answer. Whatever is left, after you rule-out all the other possibilities thru the process of elimination, no matter how improbable, is also generally the truth.

    ..and “*The Might Wurlitzer*” continues to play.
    (Google it!)

    Bella, Ciao’;
    - Genoa Fascista -



  75. Plaid the Unveiler Says:

    …you’re welcome, Keith H.!

    Have a nice WELL-INFORMED day, Good People!


  76. Ryan Neat Says:

    CNN just suspended Novak! First they cancel crossfire, then they suspend Novak - is it possible CNN is waking up from the ether that is the CONservative insanity?


  77. Marie Says:

    Plaid,
    Thanks for connecting the dots for everyone. I heard last week about a connection between Rove/Bolton and the faking of the Niger-Uranium documents in the first place, but I hadn’t put it all together.
    I am crossing my fingers that this all explodes in their faces. ASAP.


  78. Marie Says:

    #54
    You guys ridicule any Hollywood type who is not of your ilk — except for the ones you prefer like Ron Silver, Bruce Willis, Robert Duvall, Tommy Lee Jones, and of course Ah-nold and the rest.
    You just don’t see your own hypocrisy. Frankly I would choose Paul Newman who donates all his food products profits to sick children over any one of your macho-chickenhawks-righties.


  79. Marie Says:

    Novak is toast! One common thread among all these giant egos is that they never quit until they make fools of themselves. I really think Novak is suffering under the stress of his lies, his federal trouble, and his disintegrating support among hs peers, and most importantly, he can see that the W.H. gang will leave him hanging out to dry in the sun.
    Sun — that destroys vampires doesn’t it?


  80. KJ Lovell Says:

    When I get into a debate with a repug, I use their own tactics on them..

    Don’t answer their questions. Spin them. Keep asking questions to make them blow up. Like:

    How do you feel about Hitler? How about gay marriage? Treason? Do you like supporting the most hated man in the universe? Do you like the fact that the shrubs were nazi supporters, both financially and physically? Since you love shrubya so much, I suppose you think treason is OK.

    They blow up and it is just sooooooo fun!


  81. CMoore.com » Pressure getting to Novak? Says:

    […] Note: I think it was all a ploy to get his undead visage on TV and yet scamper away before having to talk about Plamegate: Thanks, James Carville. And I’m sorry as well that Bob Novak left the set a little early. I had told him in advance that we were going to ask about the CIA leak case, he was not here for me to be able to ask him about that. Hopefully, we’ll be able to ask him about that in the future. […]


  82. Skid Says:

    Jim in the lou,

    You need to keep better tabs on me, my haircut was yesterday. Thanks for caring though.


  83. Bush-Fish Says:

    One Fish, Two Fish,
    Red Fish, Bush-Fish?

    http://www.bushfish.org/


  84. Marie Says:

    Novak is living proof that Rethuglicans can’t take it — they can only dish it out. No accountability. No responsibility.
    Note Katherine Harris — she can’t even take responsibility for her own eye shadow and mascara!


  85. Brian Says:

    Well I just saw it. It’s pretty surreal how they keep on talking without missing a beat.


  86. Rex Says:

    It was a thing of beauty, a wonderful thing to watch. A good Catholic boy like Bob swearing and losing his temper than acting like a spoiled child who can’t have his own way. Nothing against Catholics, I’ve been one all my life. What ever happened to “turning the other cheek” Bob?


  87. Bob Novak's Mom Says:

    My son has been a bad boy.


  88. Smell tester Says:

    Good advice #86 - they can’t take the heat fer shore/


  89. Ryan Neat Says:

    I think Novak has dementia - he forgets his own lies so easily anymore that he contradicts himself almost weekly… Sad little maggot..


  90. Duck Femocrats Says:

    You kids are so funny….Won any elections that matter lately? Feh.


  91. Marie Says:

    #96
    Hey, Rush — your drug store’s calling.


  92. Ryan Neat Says:

    Duck,

    Dems won both the last 2 presidential elections according to the same techniques that the Pentagon used to determine the election in the Ukraine was rigged…

    Guess you didn’t see the several links during the last few days - or the new harpers article which basically confirms that it’s a statistical impossiblity that CONservatives actually won the last election. It certainly explains why Bush has a 40 some percent approval rating. More americans voted against him than for him, but criminals like you prefer to steal elections than actually provide a reasonable argument and win them fairly. It’s typical of fascism - you guys are always more concerned about having your way, than you are having democracy… The fight or flight lizard brain has such a hold over you - too sad for you and the rest of us that have to expose your criminality.


  93. fraudulent Says:

    #96
    thank Diebold! brave sh*t head (!)


  94. Jerry Dupas Says:

    I have no doubt that this is a pre-emptive “break-up” between CNN and Novak….CNN is the same as Time…Neither wants thier name or employee’s mentioned in the same paragraph with Judith Miller and the NYT….I have to admit it was a little more creative than “to spend time with my family”


  95. Missy Says:

    Bye, bye Novak!!! (it’s about time your reptilian face went off the air and believe me, we won’t be missing it!!!!!!!!!)

    Carville did a great job and we love him. He’s one of the best the dems have along with Paul B and Bob B. You go boys!!!!!!!!! (and yes # 77 James is sexy and cute)


  96. dawgdayafternoon Says:

    Bob Novak is an American Icon. Good work Bob, tell Carville to kiss your ass.


  97. David Harding Says:

    If he is not going to jail, send Novak over to Fox News where he belongs.


  98. Ryan Neat Says:

    fraudulent,

    Actually Triad and Diebold machines were both involved. In the 10 states that use standard paper trail voting machines the exit polls never deviated more than 1% from the exit polls. There’s a simple table that shows exactly how much fraud there was in the 2004 election.

    Number of states
    that deviated by 2000 2004
    1% or less 39 9
    2% or less 3 20
    3% or less 2 8
    over 3% 6 16

    This is of course the number of states that deviate from exit polling numbers. This indicates that at least 6 states had already succumbed to tampering in 2000, as this 3% threshold is generally excepted as a guarantee of tampering - whereas 16 states demostrated this level of tampering in 2004. When we consider the increase in new tamper prone electronic machines in the more recent election - it’s clear this is an increasing trend.

    When you consider that the 10 states that have only older machines were all within ~1% (One state was almost exactly 1% but slightly over it) of deviation samplewise - then it’s clear that only those 10 states are now safe for democratic voting. All other states are to some degree infested with CONservative vote rigging. The gauntlet has been thrown, and CONservative fascists have shown they are capable and willing of thwarting the democracy. If efforts are not made to make all 50 states tamper proof for the next election - no amount of public opinion or voting will change the outcome!


  99. Missy Says:

    Ryan,

    too bad we couldn’t all refuse to use the electronic voting machines and insist on using a paper ballot instead. Make our vote and drop it in a little box with our name and tel or address for verification reasons. If that was possible, it would really screw up their little scam.


  100. Swell Says:

    Unveiler & Keith H:
    Note that the BBC story is from 9/23/01.


  101. fish Says:

    Don’t believe everything you think.
    The only rigging that took place was the exit polling data.


  102. bartkid Says:

    This is goin’ make a great “Great Moments in Punditry as Read by Children” on The Daily Show!


  103. Marie Says:

    Bartkid - That would be hilarious. I can’t wait to see how Stewart handles this.


  104. Skid Says:

    Whatever fish.


  105. Ryan Neat Says:

    fish,

    That’s an interesting way for the right wing to spin their vote rigging. Too bad international monitors found the same results that their american counterparts did! Didn’t see that coming didn’t you? CONservatives always come so ILL PREPARED! This sure explains all of those failing grades for Bush that had to get converted to ‘gentlemen Cs’…


  106. Phil Says:

    Just saw the clip. Novak doesn’t have it in him to react spontaneously like a normal human being. That seeemed calculated, like everything else that bunch does. Who knows maybe his legal team advised him to walk off to any avoid any possible verbal mistakes.


  107. RPM Says:

    Anybody ever notice when CONservatives are confronted with something the only way they know how to respond is to insult, belittle, bully or just outright ignore the subject?
    Case in point with the few comments by rethuglicans in this blog.
    Perfect example: When Dickhead Cheney was asked about Dean’s comment about the Christian right being white, he just made some comment to the effect that nobody but Howard’s mother likes him.
    That’s the way they handle everything. When they can’t come up with an intelligent response - which is seldom - they resort to child like attacks - name calling, ridicule etc.
    I am a Christian but I fear the Christian right. They are the most unforgiving, intolerant and unreasonable people I have ever met.

    I will never forgive the right wing for killing Frank Zappa. Yes, they feared his activism and gave him prostate cancer.


  108. Josh Says:

    I just saw that video, and that strikes me as nothing surprising. Just your everyday, typical conservative who couldn’t take the cover up, so he just did what Bush has been doing throughout his presidency, not confronting it. They work under the ideology that if they ignore the facts and the issues they’ll just go away, and they won’t have to worry about them. To me (and this especially pertains to Bush) if you don’t have anything to hide, then why not talk about it? Why keep avoiding the facts? Why keep ignoring everything if you don’t have anything to be ashamed of? The answer should be self evident to anyone with a brain, so I’ll let the conservative nut jobs out there rack their brain to try to figure it out.


  109. Ryan Neat Says:

    RPM,

    I have no problems calling people names that matter, the problem is that CONservative are guilty of utter hypocrisy on this subject. They talk a good ‘values’ game, but they only apply those standards to other. It’s typical CONservativism - do as I say, and I’ll do whatever i want…


  110. Ryan Neat Says:

    Josh,

    But you’ve nailed the issue! ’shame’ is exactly what dictates CONservatism. Because they never develop a healthy relationship with their father, they’re ashamed that they don’t measure up as men. That’s why they try to ‘prove’ they’re manly by subjegating women (calling them feminazis, denying them abortion rights, attacking gay people, etc.). Out of their shame for their own inadequacy they act out and go to attack those they perceive as weaker than them. Because they perceive liberals as ‘permissive’, they are falsely deluded into believing liberal values are a weakness - when in fact the confidence it takes to be accepting of others, and willing to investigate and revisit ones values is a sign of strength and health. But in their twisted psychosis they delude themselves and what they’re doing… It’s really sad to watch! If they weren’t such a$$e$ about it, I’d have a lot more compassion for them.


  111. Missy Says:

    106

    The world trade center was bombed on 9/11/01. This information came out after that date.


  112. Bee Says:

    Aw, Novak just had a case of the runs.


  113. fish Says:

    Ryan,
    The vote rigging fantasy is sleepy. What happens when Billary Rotten Rodham
    gets elected Prez., I guess then it will all be on the up and up? The Repubs will have lost there mystical ability to steal elections? You just can’t admit to your selves that most of America thinks you are a bunch of kooks with bad ideas.
    As for the international monitors, you think they might have a little bias?
    me thinks it could be so. Undermine America at any cost. Don’t forget that there are plenty of governments that would love to see us broken and sadly you drink up most of their poison.

     


  114. Steed Lankershim Says:

    This doesn’t even come close to Al Franken’s freakouts!!!! That’s what liberals do, isn’t it? Get hysterical, do some name calling (Bush = Nazi), throw some chairs. Cut off debate with below the belt insults. That’s what Carvell did. That’s Lyin Ryan does. Spends a lot of time belittling people who “don’t think like him”. Well, a name calling biggot is what Lyin Ryan might call Limbaugh or some CONservative. Pot meet kettle.


  115. Josh Says:

    You know what strikes me as even more provacative? The very fact that Bush hired Rove in the first place. That shows his demeanor right there, surrounding himself with the worst people he can possible find. One would think he wouldn’t have hired a man that his father, in 1991, fired for none other than leaking information to who? ROBERT NOVAK! Once a crook always a crook. I just wish the media would do a little journalistic research, and they would find out about that.


  116. reclusive Says:

    Don’t you realize all Conservatives are in some stage of Alzheimers? LOL They all go the way of Ronnie Raygun and Charleton Heston - I will pay the day ann coulter wears diapers.


  117. reclusive Says:

    scuse emoi - i meant of course i will pay admission to see ann coulter the day she wears diapers - did i mention I am a conservative?


  118. Ryan Neat Says:

    Steed,

    Wow, poor thing. You defend Limbaugh and Coulter who name call, yet you accuse liberals of this act? Bahaha, how funny!

    As for insults, I called you a stupid idiot, and you continue to demonstrate this. So come on, how did I lie? I back up EVERYTHING I say with links, math, statistics and science. You simply say stupid things. Frankly how you rationalize your existence in the face of such an overhwelming challenge to your reality must be a profound task…


  119. fish Says:

    Ryan,
    Just one clarification for you.
    a woman’s right to abortion = a womans right to kill her child.
    there is big money made off of young urban girls aborting there children.
    Groups like planned parenthood make boo koo $ selling these destroyed children to companies to do “science tests”. Thats pretty bad.


  120. Ryan Neat Says:

    fish,

    Glad I struck a cord with you. Anytime a CONservative like you disengages their reality, I know it’s their defense mechanism because they’ve found the truth and are just to chicken to admit it…

    See your theories are interesting, albeit STUPID as usual. First of all multiple sources came up with the same statistical anomolies, independent of each other. The fact that some of these sources are republican controlled media companies, and even GOVERNMENTAL shows your continuing self willed ignorance.

    If hillary wins, it will be because people are so pissed they can’t rig enough votes in the ‘diebold’ regions to overcome it. Considering that all but 10 states now show statistical anomolies that our own pentagon KNOW is fraud, that’s highly unlikely.

    As for american disapproval - ALL polling shows the exact opposite. Only 48 percent of americans even had a positive approval rating of bush during the 2004 election. Your delusion that the majority of americans share your ideals is just that - a delusion…


  121. fish Says:

    ryan# 119


  122. Ryan Neat Says:

    Fish,

    You’re dumber than a rope. A baby is defined as alpha waves, and abortion is on fetuses not baby. The fact that you reject science out of your utter and complete stupidity, just shows how profoundly mentally handicapped you are…


  123. reclusive Says:

    Dear Josh:
    I always thought Rove hired Bush - lets face it, Rove was just too ugly to run - so he found the most stupid yokel he could and hired him to play president.


  124. fish Says:

    Delusion indeed.


  125. reclusive Says:

    And, there is nothing more redundant than a bunch of men discussing abortion.


  126. Ryan Neat Says:

    fish,

    Wow, that’s so logical. Planned parenthood is in it for the vast profits of selling babies? That tin foil helmet is burning a hole in what’s left of your brain.


  127. fish Says:

    have you ever seen a 3 month old baby?


  128. fish Says:

    If you had mabe the angry little man would pipe down a bit and the human
    would stand up.


  129. Ryan Neat Says:

    fish,

    Terri Schiavo looked just like a woman - that’s emotion, not science. Retarded microbes like you always seem to have trouble distinguishing the difference between emotional irrationality and science.


  130. Ryan Neat Says:

    Fish,

    Stop talking to those voices that keep telling you to type stupid things… You’re receiving CBN and the Christian Taliban idiots channel..


  131. Josh Says:

    Reclusive,

    You’re right, I stand corrected, lol. And lets face it, the only way Rove is going to get fired is if Rove tells Bush to fire Rove.


  132. fish Says:

    reclusive,
    Men are not allowed to be concerned for the most defenseless among us?
    What didn’t your daddy love you?


  133. Ryan Neat Says:

    Fish,

    Obviously your parents didn’t show you love, or teach you the importance of not being a stupid bigot. Too bad they didn’t believe in abortion!


  134. reclusive Says:

    Josh - soo complicated in Bushland - oh, and fish, men don’t get a say until (and if) they are informed and invited to give their say - before that happens all sorts of things go on…


  135. Ryan Neat Says:

    Fish,

    I know EXACTLY what a 3 month old fetus looks like, but like ALL CONservatives, I’m sure you don’t. The typical image shown for a 3 month old fetus by anti-abortion christian talibanshees is actually a 6 month picture.

    Here’s a ~3 month old fetus.

    http://www.aboutabortions.com/Fetus11a.jpg


  136. fish Says:

    There were lots of good scientists that ran the death camps in germany Ryan.
    yes, they told every one that the retarded where better off dead.
    and , why.. those jews where a plague after all, the “scientists” said so, they must be right. there scientists know more than we common folk know about what’s right.


  137. reclusive Says:

    Fish: Sadly, I have decided to place you on my “Don’t Clone” List,
    reclusive


  138. Ryan Neat Says:

    Reclusive,

    I agree - I personally don’t think any men (myself included) has a right to make this choice for any woman - but I also will defend the right of women to make this choice for themselves! Only ignorance, bigotry and hatred attack women in this way. In the light of science, abortion is 100% of a non issue.


  139. fish Says:

    Yes ryan,
    That is a little human being.


  140. fish Says:

    fish has become the bad guy!


  141. Ryan Neat Says:

    “There were lots of good scientists that ran the death camps in germany Ryan.”

    Ironically they ran them for Fascists like you, just like the scientists at the EPA who are willing to lie for you and disregard science.

    The reason they ran the death camps was that they were willing to reject their principles of science, not because of them. Ironically they used ‘religion’ to justify these asks - just as you surely would and do when you justify torture and killing of islamic people.

    “yes, they told every one that the retarded where better off dead.”

    Retarded people like yourself are in fact conscious, albeit not normal. This is a common red herring among CONservatives, on their way to cutting medicaid for people of this sort…

    “and , why.. those jews where a plague after all, the “scientistsâ€? said so, they must be right. there scientists know more than we common folk know about what’s right.”

    Funny, I remember you saying something similar about liberals. A Fascist fruit like yourself didn’t fall far from the Hitler tree…


  142. reclusive Says:

    actually, i like all of you guys.


  143. fish Says:

    Ryan
    I am willing to bet that you are under 30.
    I can tell that your mind has not yet fully developed.


  144. Ryan Neat Says:

    Fish,

    And your Hero Hitler was also anti abortion… You’re definitely cut from the same cloth…


  145. reclusive Says:

    fish - you really must admit conservatives are fascist - i mean even you must see that.


  146. Ryan Neat Says:

    Fish,

    I have underwear that’s over 30, but based on your mental development, I’d guess you’re under 14…


  147. fish Says:

    The earth is getting warmer,
    must be suv’s
    did you know that the sun is also getting warmer
    as are the rest of the planets….
    hhhmmmm…


  148. fish Says:

    Thats nasty


  149. Ryan Neat Says:

    Fish,

    I see a fetus - but then I’m a scientist with a rational mind. You’re a retarded child, with a demented sense of righteousness. Get some therapy, your inability to live in reality shows you’re definitely a sick person…


  150. reclusive Says:

    hey fish did you hear that john robert (supreme court nominee) consulted on a case that helped (assisted, gave comfort to, defined the legal issue on behalf of, etc.) gays in 1996? frothing at mouth?


  151. fish Says:

    Look into it Ryan, dead babes is big business.
    Anyway, doesn’t change the fact that it’s killing your child and I don’ t think that’s right.


  152. fish Says:

    well I don’t know anything about that case, but I’m all for supporting people’s rights, even if they happen to live in there mothers.


  153. Ryan Neat Says:

    “The earth is getting warmer,
    must be suv’s
    did you know that the sun is also getting warmer
    as are the rest of the planets….”

    Actually there are many contributing factors to global warming, and why CONservatives never get it. Ambiguity requires a functioning cerebral cortex that its owner is willing to use - you like most CONservatives don’t meet that qualification.

    The solar work you refer to by Dr. Bellamy is non-conclusive, and it does not include enough metrics to determine how much of an influence the solar radiation has. They used sun spots to speculate radiance, it’s nonconclusive - but definitely worth investigating. We KNOW global warming is being caused, and as a scientist I only want to know why. I hate SUVs because they’re unsafe on the road, but if they are helping to cause global warming, the responsible thing would be to find a way to make SUVs more efficient, or get rid of them. I know you have trouble with that kind of rational reasoning as you have model for this in your world of fascism - but that’s what one does as scientist - explain things with ration and reason… Maybe when you get out of high school you’ll understand.


  154. fish Says:

    just …”a fetus” your just playing with semantics.
    that clearly is a human, not a dog, or a frog,
    or anything else.
    “Scientist”
    I guess that explanes why you are so arrogant.
    Sciene of wrongie wrongness.


  155. Ladylove Says:

    I just enjoyed watching the host and james digest what just happened. lol


  156. fake but accurate Says:

    ryan you don’t know anything about anything. Telling women that killing their children is ok is the most anti-women thing you can do, not to mention half of those killed are female, what about their rights ryan? A three month old fetus is still a separate human life, it’s not just “part of the mother” or just “tissue.”
    Now about the topic, it’s funny that when Carville, who if you watched on HBO’s K-Street and did not have nightmares about you were not paying attention, pulls a Bill Orielly you people cream over it. I would love to see Rove, Carville and Dick Morris in a gladiator ring, that would be worth the ticket, LOL. Hell throw in Orielly and Franken as well. I bet you guys really think about Carville about like I think of Rove, he may be a SOB, but he’s our SOB. Bush won’t turn on Rove. It’s called loyalty, and clintoon never had it, not for his wife, his country, or the guy who put him in the White House, he is lower than all above mentioned, and that is saying something.


  157. Ryan Neat Says:

    As for your selling of fetuses, that must be something else you heard on CBN. You’re such a brainwashed idiot!

    Neither Planned Parenthood nor its abortion clients actually “sell” the dissected fetal parts to the collection firms. This was made illegal by the NIH Revitalization Act passed by Congress in 1993. That act makes it unlawful “to knowingly acquire, receive, or otherwise transfer any human fetal tissue for valuable consideration if the transfer affects interstate commerce.”


  158. fish Says:

    I do entirely agree with 159. (except the part about me being a fascist)
    well said.

    now about that Novac…


  159. Ryan Neat Says:

    “ryan you don’t know anything about anything. Telling women that killing their children is ok ”

    But that’s not what I said you lying freak! A human adult is only alive when it has alpha waves, fetuses don’t have that - they aren’t babies. Babies are what you get at 7 months, when the brain waves start and a premature can be born.

    You’re such a lying propagandist ahole…


  160. Ryan Neat Says:

    fish,

    Your politics are ENTIRELY fascist.

    Fascism is typified by attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life. Many scholars consider fascism to be part of, or in coalition with, extreme right politics.

    The term fascism has come to mean any system of government resembling Mussolini’s, that in various combinations:

    * exalts the nation, (and in some cases the race, culture, or religion) above the individual, with the state apparatus being supreme.
    * stresses loyalty to a single leader.
    * uses violence and modern techniques of propaganda and censorship to forcibly suppress political opposition.
    * engages in severe economic and social regimentation.
    * engages in syndicalist corporatism.
    * implements totalitarian systems.

    These characteristics all fit you to a tee! You’re so stupid you don’t even know you’re a fascist - how sad is that?


  161. Ryan Neat Says:

    FasicismBreedsAHoles,

    Actually Carville is an AHole, Rove is a lying propagandist traitor. I don’t see them as even playing for the same country…


  162. Ryan Neat Says:

    “just …â€?a fetusâ€? your just playing with semantics.”

    Actually I’m discussing science, you’re playing progandist semantics. A baby is something you cuddle, a fetus is something you dispose of. The first is capable of living and exhibits full human characteristics including a NeoCortex capable of human brain waves. The second is human tissue that ‘might’ turn into a baby and might not.

    The fact that you call the second a ‘baby’, is like you calling your sperm ‘your babies’. Just because you misuse the word in a deceitful way, doesn’t make it the truth. That’s indicative of the ‘children’ on the right though - just because they ’say it’s so’, they want people to just accept their ignorance as facts.

    “that clearly is a human, not a dog, or a frog,
    or anything else.”

    That clearly is a human? What would you say if I told you it was in fact a chimpanzee, and that I linked you to a known picture of a chimp just to show you how stupid you are?

    ““Scientistâ€?
    I guess that explanes why you are so arrogant.
    Sciene of wrongie wrongness.”

    I’m arrogant? Someone who clearly knows nothing about the subject he’s talking about (you) who argues with someone who clearly does, has the balls to call me arrogant? Look up the term ‘projection’, while you’re looking up ‘idiot’.


  163. Ryan Neat Says:

    “well I don’t know anything about that case, but I’m all for supporting people’s rights”

    YOU LIE!!!!!

    You support the right of a man to rape a woman and enslave her to carry his FETUS, even though that fetus is NOT A BABY UNTIL AGE 7 MONTHS! You’re such a lying propaganda scumbag!


  164. fish Says:

    “impose state control over all aspects of life.”
    Don’t you want to take the rights away from parents to know that their child is even considering an abortion (a murder) and give those right’s to the state.
    the whole dem social agenda is “ENTIRELY fascist.”
    the welfare, the social security, the health care.
    think Ryan.


  165. Ryan Neat Says:

    “I bet you guys really think about Carville about like I think of Rove, he may be a SOB, but he’s our SOB. Bush won’t turn on Rove. It’s called loyalty, and clintoon never had it, not for his wife, his country, or the guy who put him in the White House, he is lower than all above mentioned, and that is saying something.”

    CONservatives always have loyalty to their personal wallets over loyalty to the country. That’s why Halliburton has stolen millions that could have gone to armor protection and medical treatment for troops. You guys are all greedy, sleazy unpatriotic traitors! But then again Fascists didn’t really care about German or Italian citizens either, they were just stupid greedy right wing idiots just like you are!


  166. fake but accurate Says:

    If it’s legal ryan it’s approved of is it not? ryan once again you prove you don’t know what you are talking about, children survive births at 23 weeks gestation now, what are they when they are born if not babies? Good lord you are wacked.


  167. Ryan Neat Says:

    “”impose state control over all aspects of life.â€?
    Don’t you want to take the rights away from parents to know that their child is even considering an abortion (a murder) and give those right’s to the state.
    the whole dem social agenda is “ENTIRELY fascist.�
    the welfare, the social security, the health care.
    think Ryan.”

    How funny you would say that. Interestingly enough the Fascists used your arguments to also outlaw abortion - you’re definitely a fascist.

    As for welfare, and social security, the fascist believed in providing these through privatization (sound familiar) - they actually considered state run social ’services’ something that shouldn’t be done - sound familiar? And besides, you confuse ‘control’ with ’support’. SS and similar programs aren’t state control, they are state support. State control are restrictions such as limiting gay rights, anti-abortion, and similar fascist programs… You’re definitely a fascist - but in clear and obvious denial. It must be difficult to suddenly realize that you share the same political beliefs as hitler!

    And you probably didn’t know this, but Rummie, Rove and the other NeoCons are disciples of Leo Strauss - an open nazi who taught that the only thing wrong with nazi-ism was that it shouldn’t have been anti jewish. He was jewish and a Nazi you see, and had to find some way to reconcile the two - just like I’m sure you will..


  168. fish Says:

    Here you go with the “I’m a scientist” bullony again.
    Scientists use to sell everyone heron too, and they were scientists just like you.
    They destroyed many a life.
    You are the modern day quack selling murder.


  169. fake but accurate Says:

    a fetus is something you dispose of.-ryan

    But we are nazis? Do you have kids? if you have “undies over 30″ or whatever you said you must have kids right? You have seen sonagrams of children? You have felt them move and kick? Talked to them in utero? What do you really know about pregnacy or mothers or babies but what you read on a pro-abortion website?


  170. Ryan Neat Says:

    “If it’s legal ryan it’s approved of is it not? ryan once again you prove you don’t know what you are talking about, children survive births at 23 weeks gestation now, what are they when they are born if not babies? Good lord you are wacked.”

    Actually a fetus that’s 23 weeks will not survive without life support (think Terri Schiavo), and it must be fed on an IV and kept alive on life support because it’s brain isn’t developed enough to actually feed or even breathe on its own. Someday they’ll probably have fetal chambers that won’t require a real womb at all - but this is just another example of how stupid rubes shouldn’t talk about science.

    A 23 week old baby in fact WILL NOT SURVIVE BIRTH ON ITS OWN - it isn’t a baby yet! It requires an artificial system, and in fact premature babies this age often have longterm health problems because of the artificial means necessary to keep them alive.

    But thanks for continuing to bring out all of the lame and ill informed arguments to show everyone on this thread exactly HOW STUPID this entire argument is!


  171. fake but accurate Says:

    Patient 15 arrived 16 weeks early. She struggled to breathe through underdeveloped lungs. The gentlest touch could rub her paper-thin skin right off. Her mother’s rings could fit over her delicate legs. Her family heard estimates that she had only about a tablespoon of blood coursing through her veins.

    Even with her tiny, pastel-striped knit cap on and a maze of tubes assisting her bodily functions, she weighed only 13 ounces.

    Two months after her arrival at University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics, with the equipment assisting her breathing removed, her parents finally heard her first triumphant cry.

    Five years later Anna Marie Michelsen is a tall and slender prekindergartener, playing T-ball and flipping around in gymnastics. You’d never know her survival was one for the records.

    http://www.uiowa.edu/ ~fyi/ issues2003_v41/ 12052003/ small.html

    Or you could have just sucked her brains out and disposed of her tiny corpse, she wasn’t a baby, she wasn’t a human, ryan the scientist said so, and hes not a facist, his free dictionary said so. Sicko.


  172. Missy Says:

    Hey Ryan,
    Sure am glad you are on our side. You go boy!!!


  173. Ryan Neat Says:

    “Here you go with the “I’m a scientistâ€? bullony again.
    Scientists use to sell everyone heron too, and they were scientists just like you.
    They destroyed many a life.
    You are the modern day quack selling murder.”

    I assume you mean heroin? Actually you’re confusing pharmacists with scientists - but to someone with the education of a junior high brat I’m not surprised.

    This is the best you can do, reject science? Without scientist you’d be picking your teeth with a straw, and not typing on that computer you so obviously are undereducated to use! Science is truth, people do unethical things - but it’s because of their own bigotry and religious or personal flaws - it’s not because of the science! Science is about facts, and the pursuit of science is finding, proving and having people peer review and proof that science. It’s about TRUTH - something it’s clear you don’t understand, and probably have little or no experience with.

    You confuse ‘the scientist’ with what science is. Since it’s clear that the biggest issue with the right is that you have NO CLUE what the meaning of the words you use are:

    Science - definition:
    Science is knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through the scientific method.
    Scientific knowledge relies heavily upon forms of logic.

    It’s clear you don’t know what logic is either, please go look that up while you figure out that you’re the stupidest redneck on this site!


  174. fake but accurate Says:

    Tell Anna’s mom she wasn’t a baby. So if you need help you are not human? So now you must survive on your own, so if a child is born needing a ventilator or IV, it’s not a bay, it’s to be disposed of. My childs 4 months old and still needs her parents to survive, is it to late to legally abort her in your twisted mind? What if she was brain damaged? Youre brain damaged and I don&