Pombo Pushes Endangered Species Act Propaganda
Pombo Pushes Endangered Species Act Propaganda
Richard Pombo, chair of the House Resources Committee, who is now pushing for legislation to “modernize” the Environmental Species Act, had this to say in support of his position:
The Endangered Species Act’s less than 1 percent success rate for species recovery is a well-documented and readily-available statistic, but the status of the remaining species on its list has not been as clear until now. … The ESA has not achieved its original intent of recovering species. In fact, there is little evidence of progress in the law’s 30-year history.
The non-profit group Environmental Defense sets the record straight:
A peer-reviewed analysis, posted on the web site of the scientific journal Ecology Letters, concludes that more than 50% of U.S. species listed as endangered before 2000, and almost two-thirds of species listed for 13 or more years, have stabilized or are improving. Further, species whose recovery efforts received significant funding are more likely to be improving.
That isn’t to say that Endangered Species Act can’t be improved. But, by the looks of it, that isn’t what Pombo’s “reform” effort is about.
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Apparently these creatures weren’t intelligently designed, so they get the axe.
August 13th, 2005 at 5:04 pmWhat is Pombo afraid of? Is he finally grasping the fact that the Bushie administration is an endangered species.
August 13th, 2005 at 5:04 pmnot surprising for pombo, he’s about as bad as they get…
August 13th, 2005 at 5:04 pmSign the Endangered Species Act Legacy Pledge!
http://www.stopextinction.org/site/c.epIQKXOBJsG/b.887581/apps/nl/content.asp?content_id={6950E8AF-FF65-4083-884F-75E277DC75AF}¬oc=1
Hey, its something at least.
August 13th, 2005 at 5:11 pmWhat the hell is on his agenda? Haven’t we all heard of certain species having been rescued from the brink of extinction through valiant efforts on the part of environmentalists and scientiest?
August 13th, 2005 at 5:26 pmOh yeah, I keep forgetting — this group does’t believe in science – it’s mostly just theory.
typo – scientists.
August 13th, 2005 at 5:27 pmThe majority of those wanting to reform the Act are seeking, essentially, to make it legal to hunt these animals whenever you’d like. Oh, and to stop spending money on that silly “environment” or those wasteful “parks.”
Anything that doesn’t promote business profits gets the axe. Literally, in this case.
August 13th, 2005 at 6:32 pmThe Rapture is at hand(Ha), no need to conserve anything apparently.
August 13th, 2005 at 7:22 pmHow long before a wingnut gets on and tells us how tasty all those critters are?
Shouldn’t the conservatives want to conserve our wildlife? Shouldn’t they want to conserve our national parks. What exactly do they conserve other than bombs?
August 13th, 2005 at 7:27 pmWhat snappy new cover name for this act will they come up with? Hug the Animals Act? HAA HAA
August 13th, 2005 at 7:32 pmEvery bill/act/initiative they come up with has one of those stupid PC, feel good names. All it usually takes is to change one word to get the true meaning of each one.
Such as:
No Child Left Behind
This should be called:
No Soldier Left Behind
NCLB is nothing more than a front to collect student data for middle school and up. Makes me want to vomit.
August 13th, 2005 at 7:38 pmdon’t forget the clear sky initiatives, that have rolled back enviromental protections.
August 13th, 2005 at 7:47 pmThese guys are no friends to science is right. It’s only a matter of time till we plain folks go to the Medieval Barber for dentistry, surgery, psychology and a good haircut.
August 13th, 2005 at 7:48 pmSo then it would be this:
Clear Skies Initiative
Comes out to:
Dirty Skies Inititiative
August 13th, 2005 at 8:11 pmThis is the same line of reasoning by which we’d abolish fire and police departments because despite their best efforts we still have fires and crimes. The Endangered Species Act should be evaluated against the situation that would hold if it had never been enacted. In other words, even if Pombo’s statistics were true, they could be seen as arguing for strengthening the Endangered Species Act.
August 13th, 2005 at 8:51 pmWhen Pombo was younger he found himself stranded, near death, in the Mojave Desert. A California Condor came down to investigate and Pombo luckily became the eater vice the eatee and as a result he survived. When interviewed after his trial for violating the Endangered Species Act, in which he was exonerated because of the circumstances, he was asked about the taste and he explained that it was “between a Bald Eagle and a Spotted owl.” A true DUHbya man!
August 13th, 2005 at 8:52 pmHey- Please spell propaganda correctly. The other guys are the idiots, remember?
August 14th, 2005 at 1:50 amWe have to mention the best quote out of an August 05 Hardball interview: When Mrs. Palmer, mother of fallen Lance Corporal Edward Schroeder, was asked about the overall conduct of the war by Bush and his administration she replied with an incredible insight, “Well…I personally believe that since it’s not working, then we have to make a change. It’s not worth the sacrifice if it’s just more bodies onto the heap. You know like president Bush said he wanted to `stay the course and honor the memory of the ones who died by continuing to fight.’ If it didn’t work before why does fighting more…you know… do the same thing over and over that’s the- expecting different results is… I think the explanation of insanity.”
Ten hut! Patriot-mom and dad, Mrs. Palmer and Mr. Schroeder on deck! Salute!
Tim, TJ, John, Shelly, Mike, Eduardo and the rest of us at ground zero….
August 14th, 2005 at 2:16 amin #7 Kesh said
“The majority of those wanting to reform the Act are seeking, essentially, to make it legal to hunt these animals whenever you’d like.”
I would wholeheartedly support this position, provided that it is limited to a single species of animal which, far from being endangered is so over-represented that it has created a worldwide menace: the Neocondor.
August 14th, 2005 at 9:38 amDon’t forget the older generation. Christopher of the former Artichokeblog is now at connectleft.blogspot.com.
Someday you will be over 50 too, so show some love to the daddie’s daddies and visit my blog.
The Gay Community needs to stand by your older men like me.
August 14th, 2005 at 5:22 pmI happen to live in the district next door to Pombo’s & am all to familar with his “stance”.
That his aim is to gut the Endangered Species Act isn’t even in question isn’t so striking.
What I find is is that his clans “rich history of valley ranching and agriculture”, which has in recent years made it’s fortune ( Pombo Real Estate)converting large tracts of agricultural/range lands into large sprawling suburban development, isn’t questioned as to the reasons for wanting to gut the ESA. Yea, his family would make bank if he were to be able to free up alot of that “undeveloped, unproductive” land so they could pave them over too.
I mean, if you want to rise to the level of Tom DeLay’s overtly gross self dealing, this is your baby. How come people aren’t questioning these actions by such an important and influential member of the republican house chairman is beyond me.
Pombo, you too are speaking with wickedly forked tongue.
August 14th, 2005 at 5:47 pmPombo represents the middle cental valley around Stockton. Lots of farmers here feel like they can’t work their properties without spending 10s or hendreds of thousands of dollars trying to deal with the Endangered Species Act. The litigation goes on for years making the economics restrictive. The central valley has also been the newest area for development and growth. That’s why he gets elected. He has always been strongly against the ESA. Get over it. His position may be pretty strong, but the ESA still needs a more common sense approach in some areas.
August 14th, 2005 at 8:05 pmHis position is more than pretty strong Steed, it’s pretty inaccurate as well. When you can cite an area that needs a more common sense approach by the ESA, let me know.
August 14th, 2005 at 8:25 pmjust when you thot the dodo was extinct, up pops steed to disprove the assumption. Never one to rest on his haunches tho, he also opens his mouth, thereby disproving the theory of intelligent design as well…
August 14th, 2005 at 11:22 pmYou are full of shit steed. I live around there. Where you comin’ from?
Who saw bushco’s release of the Environmental Impact report for Steelhead & Salmon spawning grounds on Friday @ 6:00 pm (convienently after the news). It surprisingly sets limits at one fourth their previously registered spawning habitat. Now that land adgacent to it can all be built on.
& Pombo represents Tracy, not Stockton dork. Because we have boundries drawn like fractal images Stockton is district 18, Pombo is 11.
He’s gutting it to pave over the range and farmland. He doesn’t care about the world he lives in, just the money he can grub off anyone & it. & before you get all high and mighty, I do support growth out here, but I support Planned & Measured growth. Pombo wants to turn the whole valley into the next Orange County overnight.
You don’t live out in the valley Steed. Your out of your turf & on mine. Don’t try to bullshit, it won’t work here on this one.
August 15th, 2005 at 12:26 amLeave it to Steed to open up his stupid piehole and say something, well, stupid. You are a brainwashed twerp that needs to get some education. Everytime you post your idiotic remarks, they are ripped apart by the truth within a matter of minutes. Go find a different hobby. Oh I don’t know, posting somewhere else.
August 15th, 2005 at 1:50 amTracy is less than 20 miles from Stockton. I said that Pombo was represented the central valley in the Stockton area. That and everything else I posted is accurate. BTW, I grew up in Vacaville and live in Sacratomato area. Veni, Vedi, Vici.
August 15th, 2005 at 11:49 amOne last thing kindness
August 15th, 2005 at 12:08 pmPombo’s district, 11, covers mostly rural lands that completely surround Stockton to the north, east and west. You’re the bullshitter here.
Steed you’ve shown yourself to be an untrustworthy liar. You have no integrity and no character to speak of. I gave you facts & you repeat lies. Who is the asshole here? YOU asshole.
All you need to do is google it but apparently you don’t know how to do that either.
Rather than discuss the merits of a thread you try to change the subject to something else & wholesale bullshit & lies. When called on it you go “WAAAAA”. ASSHOLE!
I guess you aren’t happy being represented by the widow of your old congressman. go suck eggs.
August 15th, 2005 at 12:36 pmWhoa, why so angry? Because I corrected you?
August 15th, 2005 at 12:43 pmstick to the topic of the thread steed. you aren’t important. plus you just repeated your earlier lie.
dick for brains, eh?
August 15th, 2005 at 12:55 pmWhere did I lie? You don’t understand the geography in your own area and why Pombo gets elected. Did I ever say I agree with Pombo? No. I was just correcting you. What’s your problem?
August 15th, 2005 at 1:06 pmYour a Bushie supporter Steed, that makes you a liar. You lost your credibility here and around the country. Can’t you comprehend anything? Bushie supporters are liars and nothing but liars. Deal with it!
August 15th, 2005 at 1:33 pmToo bad firefighters are not part of the ESA:
August 15th, 2005 at 2:40 pmhttp://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/respub/fowler1.html
There is nothing honorable or courageous about environmentalists using well intentioned laws to stomp on the rights of other Americans to use their land as they see fit. It would be honorable if they compensated those people for the taking!!!
September 27th, 2005 at 12:30 amAlan- We are not talking about ‘rights’ of other Americans here. We are talking about the ‘right’ of a species to exist. This bill is simply one more poison arrow from the neo-cons, and if we do not wake up soon, it will herald the extinction of the HUMAN species. We are here, quite simply, because all these
September 29th, 2005 at 9:59 pmother creatures are here with us. If you think we can survive by wasting the other animals, one speicies at a time, I hope you move to another planet to try this theory. Because I really dont think it would work here.
If you think thats exaggeration, look at the latest
numbers.
Press Contact Ellis Goldberg 925 831 8355 EllisG237@aol.com October 12 2005
Jerry McNerney http://www.jerrymcnerney.org announced his candidacy for the US Congress. He gave the following address:
Today I am very proud to announce that I am running for the U.S. House of Representatives in California’s 11th Congressional District.
In 2004 I challenged Richard Pombo when no other Democrat was willing to run because I was sick and tired of seeing Richard Pombo vote to further the interests of his campaign contributors rather than to promote the common good. I could not stay silent and stood up for what I knew was right. When I did, many of you stood up with me. Our grassroots campaign went on to accomplish what no one thought possible by receiving more than 104,000 votes. Since November of 2004, it has become even more obvious to the people in our district that instead of working for the needs of hardworking families, Richard Pombo is using his position of trust to enrich himself and his cronies. Our nation is now in desperate need of strong and honest leadership that has a positive plan for our future. I’m asking voters to join me so that together we can change the direction of our country.
Recent events illustrate just how corrupt and badly out of touch Richard Pombo is with the American people. His primary focus in the Congress has been to kill the Endangered Species Act, while ignoring the needs of the people in his district. But his recent threat to sell off National Parks unless he gets his way to allow drilling off the California coast shows how extreme he has become.
It appears that everything Richard Pombo does in the Congress is calculated to benefit himself and his cronies. For example, he has just authored a new Species Extinction Act that will force the government to pay landowners, like Richard Pombo, the speculative value of property inhabited by Endangered Species. Any landowner lucky enough to have an endangered plant on his or her land will be able to claim from our government any profits their land could produce now or in future years. Richard Pombo stands to benefit from this bill. This is just another attempt by the right wing to bankrupt our government and profit the wealthy.
In another case of recent corruption, Richard Pombo used federal tax dollars for partisan political campaign purposes by sending out 175,000 glossy, two-page leaflets to voters around the country promoting George W. Bush just weeks before the 2004 general election. This is a clear violation of ethics. But widespread corruption in the Republican controlled Congress has prevented any federal investigation Richard Pombo or Tom Delay.
Richard Pombo also paid his wife and brother $375,000 of campaign funds. Wouldn’t you like to be able to shake down donors who want your legislative favor, then turn around and “pay†you wife and brother? Where I come from this is called corruption.
Highway 205 connecting 580 to I5 is the most congested highway in the district and has been for a long time. But instead of securing monies to widen this highway, Richard Pombo has proposed that the government build a new highway right over the top of rugged Mount Hamilton and has earmarked millions of federal transportation dollars to study the proposal. Just commissioning this study has significantly increased the value of the Pombo family property. If the highway is built, Pombo will earn millions while the rest of us continue to be stuck in traffic.
This district has congested and decaying highways, a levee that recently failed and more about to fail, air pollution that is among the worst in the nation, unemployment that is twice the state average, and an education system that needs serious attention. Richard Pombo is one of the most powerful men in Congress, and yet his district has been badly neglected. He is ineffective and part of a pervasive culture of corruption within the Republican Party, and this corruption is hurting us and the nation by financing a massive giveaway to oil companies, pharmaceutical companies, and other corporations on the backs of our children and our grandchildren. This is no way to run a government. How dare they call themselves conservative!
I am running to correct this. I am running on a platform of Responsible Investing in America. I believe we need to step up to the plate and invest in America just like our parents and grandparents did so that we can pass on to our children and grandchildren a nation that is strong and prosperous.
We can strengthen America by investing our energy infrastructure and in developing new energy systems so that we no longer forced to pay outrageous prices for gas and oil to foreign countries, some of which are dictators and tyrants, and some of which pass our money on to terrorists. By making such investments in our energy infrastructure, we will create jobs right here that can not be exported, we will improve our national security, and we will protect God’s beautiful creation and our pristine areas in national parks and offshore waters.
I am running on a platform of investing in Americans by investing in our educational system so that everyone in our district can have the opportunity to use their God given talents to succeed in this wonderful land of ours and help make this a better world. By investing in our educational system, as our parents did for us, we will enable our children to be the most productive workers in the world and will once again help America to inspire the world, as it did when John F. Kennedy began the investments that send Americans to the moon.
Many people in our district live without any health coverage whatsoever, and the rest of us face an increasing burden of health care costs. We can change this. I will work with anyone in the Congress, and I will not rest until our country provides affordable health care to all Americans, starting with our youngest children.
I am proud to stand tall for what the Democratic Party has always stood for – the average hard working families of our country. This campaign is not about Jerry McNerney, it’s about the common needs we all share. We will be speaking about the things that matter to the people of our country, things such as protecting Social Security, creating good jobs with living wages, cleaning the dirty air that is causing so many health problems, and easing the traffic congestion that frustrates so many of us. We ask all of you to join in the conversation.
My message to you is that I am still here. I ran in 2004, and I will work tirelessly to win your support in 2006. I am committed to the people of this district and don’t give up easily. I’ve spent the last two years visiting all parts of the district. I’ve walked precincts in every town and I’ve met thousands of people. I’ve listened to their concerns and know what people want and what they dream. I ask you to join me and together we will get our country back on the right track.
Jerry McNerney
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December 1st, 2005 at 10:17 amI did not realize species had a “right” to exist. Where does that “right” come from? Who granted it?
In point of fact, no species, humans included, have a “right” to exist. It is earned.
The Endangered Species Act is scientifically flawed, as it promotes the myth that humans can stop the effects of evolution over any prolonged period of time.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:07 pm[...] Pombo Pushes Endangered Species Act Propaganda Richard Pombo, chair of the House Resources Committee, who is now pushing for legislation to “modernize” the Environmental Species Act, had this to say in support of his position: The Endangered Species Act’s less than 1 percent success rate for species recovery is a well-documented and readily-available statistic, but the status of the remaining species on its list has not been as clear until now. … The ESA has not achieved its original intent of recovering species. In fact, there is little evidence of progress in the law’s 30-year history. The non-profit group Environmental Defense sets the record straight: A peer-reviewed analysis, posted on the web site of the scientific journal Ecology Letters, concludes that more than 50% of U.S. species listed as endangered before 2000, and almost two-thirds of species listed for 13 or more years, have stabilized or are improving. Further, species whose recovery efforts received significant funding are more likely to be improving. [...]
June 23rd, 2006 at 4:59 amRichard Pombo used federal tax dollars for partisan political campaign purposes by sending out 175,000 glossy, two-page leaflets to voters around the country promoting George W. Bush just weeks before the 2004 general election. This is a clear violation of ethics. But widespread corruption in the Republican controlled Congress has prevented any federal investigation Richard Pombo or Tom Delay.
November 20th, 2006 at 4:53 amRichard Pombo has proposed that the government build a new highway right over the top of rugged Mount Hamilton and has earmarked millions of federal transportation dollars to study the proposal. Just commissioning this study has significantly increased the value of the Pombo family property.
December 8th, 2006 at 4:58 am