FLASHBACK: Rove on Getting Caught Lying
FLASHBACK: Rove on Getting Caught Lying
From the 8/18/98 Dallas Morning News:
The public can smell a phony, [Rove] said. For public officials caught lying, the apology must be honest and sincere. “It’s a question of authenticity and whether they seem to have a plausible reason” for lying, said Mr. Rove, who is Gov. George W. Bush’s chief political strategist. He said he was speaking only for himself on this matter.
Long term, lies by public officials erode public confidence in government and make it hard for all elected officials at all levels to govern, analysts noted.
“To the extent that there is already a high level of cynicism among the people, it does not make it any easier to lead,” Mr. Rove said.
Of course, that was before Rove repeatedly denied he had any involvement in the Valerie Plame leak. We are waiting for our “honest and sincere” apology.
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“..whether they seem to have a plausible reason for lying..”
I guess Rove might have a “plausible reason” for lying: the truth will embolden terrorists maybe. Or it depends on what the word “involvement” means.
August 18th, 2005 at 11:26 amRove & Libby are just the tip of the iceberg.
August 18th, 2005 at 11:32 amAn apology won’t cut it.
August 18th, 2005 at 11:34 amRove speaking about honesty and sincerity? What a laugh that is! I think the numerous and heinous lies of this Administration and Rove are not only leading to an erosion of public confidence, but a real loss in their ability to lead.
August 18th, 2005 at 11:35 amBecause of the attack an occupation of Iraq–our position in the world has not improved, and Bush has not done anything to improve it. Our economy, foreign and domestic, has not been made better by the invasion of Iraq. Why did we attack and occupy Iraq? Bush’s administration was using the invasion to take taxpayers’ money and give it to political supporters. Plain and simple.
“The public can smell a phony” – Perhaps not at first. With good marketing a phony (Rove + George Bush) can bamboozle the public for several years. But finally, after 6 years of George Bush (I’m counting campaign time in 1999/2000), the Public is finally catching to what an incredible fraud George W. Bush is – Faux Ranch, Faux Texan, Faux Business Career, Faux National Guard Service, Faux Regular Guy, Faux Leader.
August 18th, 2005 at 11:39 amThe comment of “It’s a question of authenticity and whether they seem to have a plausible reason†is typical Rovian logic. It’s ok to lie for plausal reasons? The problem is Rove lies as at any time for any reason. We only have to look at the administrations press releases for the last five years and dear leader’s campaigns to see the lies that are threaded in between the truth. However, treason is probably as god a reason as any.
August 18th, 2005 at 11:50 amNews flash! Public official lies to American people! Stop the presses!
Please, people, is Rove really any worse than most? I have heard politicians and their staffs lie so much over my lifetime that I have come to expect it. I guess he is right about people becoming cynical…
Now, if he lies under oath to Fitzgerald he should go to jail.
August 18th, 2005 at 11:59 amThe lies must stop! Enough is enough! One lie leads to another to cover for the first lie, and then another and another… Rove is a LIAR.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:06 pmMore Hypocrisy and Lies, plus Fun with Popes
Think Progress reaches back into history as well, for some good advice on lying for Karl Rove from, well, Karl Rove.
* I like this thought at Interesting Times on criticism that Democrats are recruiting tough guys as candidates to look like a toug…
August 18th, 2005 at 12:07 pmWow, Karl Rove lied, how about that. This utterly incompetent administration makes the Clinton White House look like a band of angels. Rove and Libby will go down, and when that happens, Bush will be made out to be the total jackass that he is.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:07 pmCon men always say that it’s ok to lie for plausible reasons. That’s how they operate. And then they convince you why they had to lie. And then they lie some more. And then they convince you that they had a plausilbe reason for lying and then they lie some more. And pretty soon the lies are part of the natural rhythm of the relationship and the person listening to it maybe believes it or maybe stops listening to it. If every thing is going good it’s ok.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:10 pmWhen things start falling apart the people like Rove start saying they didn’t lie. They reason this away by believing it themselves. The “plausible” part of the lie was ok because it was said for a cause but was not said by him because he is just a cog in the machine. He repeated what he heard. Another part of it is, the person who Rove is when he lies and smears is a person he is forced to be for the good of the party or the campaign or the agenda. It’s not really who he is. He seperates himself.
Is Rove really worse than most? Yes unless you are comparing him to the freaks that are in Congress right now. Is he worse than Tom DeLay. No. Is he worse than John Conyers? Please.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:14 pmRove lies SO MUCH he has to have someone else call his dog!
You lied, whatever the reason, you resign. And that goes for the rest of the bunch too.
Oh my gosh! I have heard for years from the rightwing wing nuts that PRESIDENT Clinton “lied”.
You lie, WE IMPEACH or more appropriately, CHIMPEACH. Nixon had the class to resign, but that is something we have NEVER seen in this circus, so I totally expect that it will take something like the warden scene in Shawshank redemption to get the bozo out of the house.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:16 pmAlso, the criticism has NOTHING to do with their ability to lead. Falling off of things, and onto things make it difficult to lead.
Cronie phony appointments and promotions make it difficult to lead.
GETTING CAUGHT in your illegal dealings make it difficult to lead.
What is it they say? LEAD, FOLLOW OR GET OUT OF THE WAY. We know they can’t lead, they won’t follow….so GET OUT OF THE WAY!
August 18th, 2005 at 12:19 pmCC
You are right about many public officials lying. It’s not that Rove lies so much as what he lies about that make him unique. Take Anne Richards-Lesbian. Take the 2000 primaries against McCain-unbalanced, father of a illegitimate black child, wife a lesbian. Take 2000 election-Al gore invented the internet, exaggerates about everything. 2004-Kerry did not deserve medals, Kerry lied about Vietnam, Kerry French, ect ect.
The guy is beyond a fucking liar, he is the proto liar.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:19 pmThis is why we hate the fat fuck.
Please, people, is Rove really any worse than most?
Damn right he is. Remember when he planted a bug in his own candidate’s office so that people would think his candidate’s opponent had done it? Then there was the time he printed up a letter on his candidate’s opponent’s letterhead offering “free beer, free food, girls and a good time for nothing” at the opponent’s headquarters. Oh, and who can forget the phony poll questions to smear McCain in the ‘00 primary. If I remember right, he’d done the same to Ann Richards in Texas.
And that’s just the stuff we know about. Rove is probably the biggest dirtbag in politics. And that’s saying a lot.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:21 pmNo one in this administration will EVER apologize for anything they have done. Rove was just saying what the people needed to hear from him — that’s all he does, he doesn’t know how to do anything else. Rove can always find a plausible reason for lying — saving his/W’s a**.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:28 pm#7
So it’s no big deal for Rove to lie because “I have heard politicians and their staffs lie so much over my lifetime that I have come to expect it”. News Flash! The everyone-else-did-it tack is an excuse you hear from little children. Forget the country kiddo, you should first be concerned about what’s spinning around between your ears if you truly subscribe to that rationale.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:34 pmNews flash! Public official lies to American people! Stop the presses!
Please, people, is Rove really any worse than most? I have heard politicians and their staffs lie so much over my lifetime that I have come to expect it. I guess he is right about people becoming cynical…
Now, if he lies under oath to Fitzgerald he should go to jail.
Comment by Concerned Conservative — August 18, 2005 @ 11:59 am
No true conservative would even ask questions about a President’s sex life, married or otherwise. Sure, they all lie, and it’s the one’s in office whose lies are at issue, but there’s a difference what they lie about. If you can’t see the difference, it’s because you are still more “conservative” (read right extremist) than concerned.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:36 pmYou bet Rove is worse than most!
August 18th, 2005 at 12:37 pmAll politicians Lie, in that they fudge the truth, and the public expects that. Rove, a protoge’ of Lee Atwater, the guy who was an unethical, take-no-prisoners, morally deficient individual, (who by the way, made a death-bed confession of his sins)has taken the methods of Atwater and honed them to an unprecedented degree.
Rove is so ruthless, so cunning, so amoral, that some people were unable to see the depth of his ability, to the detriment of the nation.
I think the tide is turning (it’s about time), people are wising up, lies are too prevalent, the administration has lost credibility and I hope for the day that they are all forced to leave office in disgrace.
Apology? It is not even in his vocabulary, as it applies to himself.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:38 pm#18, the Republican/conservtives are very interested in sexual habits of public and private citizens. Just look at what riles them.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:47 pmThere is something wrong with a political group that focuses so much energy on sexual behavior.
I think we can all agree that thanks to Grover, Lee, and Karl politics in America have changed for the worst. Have they changed for the worst permanently? Do we need our own scum bags to smear our way to power? What is the alternative?
August 18th, 2005 at 12:50 pmJudd,
Does anyone at Think Progress ever check the email at the address provided on the Contact page, or check the messages submitted on the contact form there?
I’ve sent you a number of messages with no response or acknowledgement.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:50 pm#18 SJS — why did you assume I was comparing Rove to Clinton lying about sex with Monica. I couldn’t care less about Bill Clinton lying about his sex life unless it interfered with his ability to perform his job — which it probably did a little bit. I was making a much broader condemnation on how lying, spinning and out right cutthroat politics have become the norm. On both sides.
#22 Citizen — I believe the politics of personal destruction really began with the confirmation hearings of Robert Bork. You know, fat Teddy calling him a racist and other dems digging up his X-rated video rentals. Oh wait, I thought it was the repugs who were opsessed with sexual habits.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:06 pmJudd doesn’t link to the DSN article (not surprising, given the number of times he has been caught in blatant mischaracterizations), but from the date I imagine Rove was commenting on Bill Clinton’s dishonest and insincere apology for lying in the Lewinsky case.
It’s too bad for the “Impeach Bush” left that Clinton set such a low standard of acceptable behavior. After Clinton got a pass on committing perjury while in office, anything a president says while not under oath is beyond the reach of the impeachment power.
Clinton was fined by a federal judge and disbarred for lying. President Bush will never suffer any similar disgrace, because he has told the truth to the best of his ability.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:08 pmRight on BSR.
Also, I should have added in my post prior to yours that I DO care about Clinton lying while under oath in court about having sex with Monica. THAT is a felony, I believe.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:12 pm“An experienced, industrious, ambitious, and often quite picturesque liar.”
—Samuel Clements (Mark Twain)
August 18th, 2005 at 1:14 pmin #24 CC sez
“#18 SJS — why did you assume I was comparing Rove to Clinton lying about sex with Monica. I couldn’t care less about Bill Clinton lying about his sex life unless it interfered with his ability to perform his job — which it probably did a little bit. I was making a much broader condemnation on how lying, spinning and out right cutthroat politics have become the norm. On both sides.
#22 Citizen — I believe the politics of personal destruction really began with the confirmation hearings of Robert Bork. You know, fat Teddy calling him a racist and other dems digging up his X-rated video rentals. Oh wait, I thought it was the repugs who were opsessed with sexual habits.”
Tis the same old bullshit kiddie excuse I called him on in #17. Why does he take this lame course? A) he literally has nothing better to offer, and B) he can’t agree with you because the pathology involved won’t permit it; he simply cannot acknowledge Conservative criminal behavior without appending a rationalization for it. What an embarassment this chimp-chump is.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:19 pm“In all lies there is wheat among the chaff”
August 18th, 2005 at 1:20 pm– Mark Twain
So, let me get this right….
Clinton lied about screwing the help, and that’s NOT OK.
Rove lies everytime he opens his mouth. Dumb-ya lied us into a war to make money for his family and cronies, but that’s OK?
Sex is bad……war is good…..
need more input…..
I believe Clinton was trying to not drag the reugnican paid whore through the mud. He lied. HE SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING LIKE THIS….
I believe that it is NONE of your business WHAT I DO WITH MY PRIVATE PARTS, TO WHOM, OR ON WHOM. GET OFF MY BACK AND go try YET ANOTHER WITCH HUNT.
I always believe you should use the words that people can understand, so
If you believe sex is bad – and treason is good….
…GO FU****k YOURSELF……a quote from cheeney!
August 18th, 2005 at 1:22 pmThe same goes double for sad-sack Blue State Red in #25. How pathetic this current crop of conservative cannots are. Your masters are going down, clowns; stick around and watch the show. Then, when the Dems get back in we can pull them away from the helm and get this drifting ship of state back on course.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:24 pmOr, Clinton should have been more diplomatic…..
and shred the dress and the whore and anything that would HELP THE “INVESTIGATION”
or maybe he should have just CLASSIFIED THE WHOLE DAMN TOWN…..until 50 years after his death….. like….
DUMB-YA
August 18th, 2005 at 1:24 pmLucy, actually I’m no great fan of “chimpy”, as you guys call him. My main point is I wish lying did not happen in politics but it does — on both sides. But it is not criminal behavior unless it is in court under oath. And as I said if Rove lies under oath to Fitzgerald — lock him up.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:24 pmAw! now we have it on authority….
If you lie under oath……..
Is that so much like…..
“IF SOMEONE LEAKED THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION”
UH, … I mean
if someone leaked and they got caught…..i mean if someone got caught… i mean if they go to prison….
uh, get executed……..then i will fire them….
(can I get the banana now?)
August 18th, 2005 at 1:28 pmKJ,
Can’t find the meds today? I said it wasn’t the sex or even that he lied — it was that he lied UNDER OATH.
Sheesh.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:28 pmCC and Blue balls
Amazing that it all goes back to Clinton. Well, get over him and your homoerotic fantasies about him. He is out of office. As for your dear leader, telling the truth to the best of his ability, well he is chimp like in his simplicity, so I’ll give you that maybe he was told lies without complicity. But that still leaves him a chimp like simpleton, no way around that. Echoing the lies about WMD and throwing flowers is still lingering out here in America, and chimp boy seems to have a “credibility” problem.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:29 pmSorry, I automatically ignore crass insults and profanities. The debate’s the thing. See if you can keep up.
As for Clinton, maybe he should have said something else, but he didn’t. Given the choice, he chose to lie under oth – something of which President Bush never will be guilty.
George Bush’s alleged lies are a matter of opinion. Bill Clinton’s lies are a matter of record. Deal with it.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:30 pmWouldn’t the real question be…
Why would anyone give a crap what Clinton did with the REPUG-whore?
Why did we have that “open checkbook” for starr, and
Now we have Fitzgerald, who has a long uphill climb over the BS-WH, and even if TREASON happened,
if they “don’t lie under oath” it is
OK….
so by your logic, is it a greater sin to Kill or sleep with someone’s wife?
Where do I get the 10 commandments score card? My bible doesn’t seem to have one…..
it certianly does not say anything about if I lie to God and am not under oath, that is OK>
August 18th, 2005 at 1:32 pm#22 Citizen — I believe the politics of personal destruction really began with the confirmation hearings of Robert Bork.
Either you’ve a short memory, or a selective one. Does the name “Joseph McCarthy” ring any bells?
You know, fat Teddy calling him a racist
GOPer Arlen Specter said the same thing, as I recall. And actually I think the specific accusation was not racism, but of being pro-segregation. Accuracy is always nice, y’know.
and other dems digging up his X-rated video rentals.
Liar. That wasn’t Dems, it was a news outfit named City Paper, and the Democrats condemned the action.
Oh wait, I thought it was the repugs who were opsessed [SIC] with sexual habits.
No, but it is the Repugs who are such utter hypocrites that they’ll use any smear that they think can help them gain power.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:34 pmBlue balls
Go somewhere else to suckle up. We really don’t care for your pathetic diatribes. You add nothing, you are mostly incoherent, childish with your attacks, then girl like with your retorts. Go post at Little green balls or the like.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:36 pmWhich repug was it that had to say he was sorry for making racial slurs?
Oh, the one that raped the black maid and had a daughter.
Yep, it is ALL ABOUT SEX with them.
If you worry about other’s sex lives, YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM!
August 18th, 2005 at 1:36 pmStill waiting to know if I lie to God and am not under oath if that is
August 18th, 2005 at 1:37 pmOK also….. Just needing to know.
I said it wasn’t the sex or even that he lied — it was that he [Clinton] lied UNDER OATH.
Actually, he didn’t. His answer was truthful according to the precise definition of the terms as laid out in the question. In the legal profession this is known as a “perjury trap,” something that no reputable lawyer would stoop to doing. It’s why the GOP Inquisition’s charge wasn’t perjury, but rather contempt of Congress.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:38 pmYep, Clinton uses some repug-quotes back on them during that “investigation” and it pissed them off…
I LOVED IT…..
BUT HE DIDN’T LIE!
concerned commie’s logic today just pushes that point.
hey, come on! Where do I get my 10-commandments score card? You have one obviously… share please do.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:41 pmmommy…. there’s a reugnican under my bed
August 18th, 2005 at 1:44 pmSo to review…..
YOU CAN LIE AND COMMIT TREASON – that is OK.
IF YOU LIE “UNDER OATH” – not so OK.
What if you murder and lie about it, just not under oath….. – must be ok
August 18th, 2005 at 1:46 pmWas it ok to lie about Weapons of Mass Distruction?
August 18th, 2005 at 1:49 pmHistory lesson: The Republican who fathered a daughter by a black woman was Strom Thurmond. He committed this dastardly deed when he was a segregationist Democrat (you know, like Robert Byrd). He found the courage to apologize and take responsibility when he was a Republican. We report, you decide.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:50 pmyeah KJ, conservatives dont care if you lie and are not held accountable because you run congress. but lie about sex under oath? thats very bad.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:50 pmThanks #51 and #52. Imitation – even a poor one – is the sincerest form of flattery.
August 18th, 2005 at 1:57 pmSo the comments in #51 and #52 are accurate representation of your thoughts/opinions then?
August 18th, 2005 at 2:02 pmMONKEY BOY ALERT: BLUE STATE
HE IS A COLLEGE REPUBLICAN TRYING OUT HIS ARGUMENTS HE LEARNED AT GROVER’S SUMMER “HOW TO BE A TRAITOR†SEMINAR.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:04 pmIs a smear a lie or an agenda?
August 18th, 2005 at 2:10 pmwrong, im a decoy for karl rove.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:11 pmwrong, im a decoy for hillary clinton.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:12 pmDid Lieutenant AWOL lie or forget?
August 18th, 2005 at 2:12 pmDid Lieutenant AWOL lie or was he misinformed about procedure?
Did Lieutenant AWOL lie or was he too drunk to find the barracks?
wrong, im monica lewinsky.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:12 pmwrong, im dick cheney.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:13 pmKJ, sorry not to respond to your earlier post — had to step out. I would probably give you my ranking of the 10 commandments if I could remember them all. My favorite is probably coveting thy neighbors wife — what? oh, you’re NOT supposed to covet thy neighbors wife? Never mind…
August 18th, 2005 at 2:13 pmwrong, im tom delay.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:13 pmwrong, im bill oreilly.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:14 pmwrong, im rupert murdoch.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:14 pmSo much for this thread.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:17 pmGary, yep those Dems really came to Bork’s defense after the x-rated video thing broke. See how many votes he was confirmed by?
August 18th, 2005 at 2:20 pmYou type fast though. Maybe they could use you at Fox.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:21 pm#74
you mean, so much for this neocon
August 18th, 2005 at 2:21 pmactually you’re right, BSR impersonator, you are bozo the clown
August 18th, 2005 at 2:24 pmInteresting how you feel the need to put words in my mouth, as in #81. What’s wrong, I’m not as out there as you want me to be? Can’t handle that I don’t fit your warped picture of a conservative. Not all of us are fascists, you know.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:27 pmI’ll come back when somebody wants a real discussion.
– The Real CC
August 18th, 2005 at 2:28 pmCC
Tell me you are not enabling the clown Blue State Red. I have always given you the benefit of the doubt, but the monkeys who post here should not be engaged. I just hope you are not one?
August 18th, 2005 at 2:29 pmGary, yep those Dems really came to Bork’s defense after the x-rated video thing broke. See how many votes he was confirmed by?
Ooooookay, you just pegged the stupidity meter. And after I went to all that trouble to cut in extra resistance to raise the scale.
Here are two statements.
1) “It was wrong to invade Bork’s privacy by publishing his video rental records.”
2) “Bork is fit to serve on the highest court in the land.”
Stare at these for a long time. See if you can discern any difference between their logical implications. See if any sensible person could believe that one must imply the other. Feel free to go rent a sensible person if you don’t happen to have one handy.
August 18th, 2005 at 2:29 pmGary,
You have to understand with Republicans your either “with em, or a’gain’ em”. There is no middle ground. There is no possiblity to be appalled at dirt digging on ANYONE, you either have to be for it when it’s against the Left, or against it when it’s against the right. So in their little narrow minds, those two statments ARE in fact the SAME statement.
August 18th, 2005 at 4:08 pmI’ll come back when somebody wants a real discussion.
– The Real CC
Comment by Concerned Conservative — August 18, 2005 @ 2:28 pm
Perhaps you shouldn’t. You may be too far gone. Even some of the wingnuts are concerned. But more concerned about losing power, as this BTC article points out.
http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1077
You don’t really care about America, or Iraqis. You care about being made to look foolish, and suffering from the rising tide that will sweep you back to the extremist fringe from whence you came. It will get ugly. It will be painful. You and your kind have caused much pain. It’s your turn to suffer, and suffer you will.
August 18th, 2005 at 4:16 pmI was making a much broader condemnation on how lying, spinning and out right cutthroat politics have become the norm. On both sides.
You must be joking. Become? Try always has been. You have extremists running the country. Clinton was a conservative Republican. A Democrat in name only. Once you get that, you might be normal again.
August 18th, 2005 at 4:19 pmAll modern Democrats = Eisenhowerian conservative Republican moderates.
All GOP = Extremist wingnuts. Not conservative. Not even true Republicans.
Once you get that, you will know where we, and you, are.
August 18th, 2005 at 4:21 pmNot all of us are fascists, you know.
If I ever find myself having to make that statement, I’ll switch parties.
August 18th, 2005 at 5:15 pmNot all of us are fascists, you know.
If I ever find myself having to make that statement, I’ll switch parties.
Comment by cynical ex-hippie — August 18, 2005 @ 5:15 pm
LOL!
August 18th, 2005 at 6:24 pm1.There are too many states that have republican secretaries of state…even if the governor is a Dem.
August 18th, 2005 at 8:11 pm2.Diebold (the voting machines) are owned by a republican.
3.Need I say more?…It doesn’t matter how right we are,
when you have control of the voting machines, it’s all over, except putting us all in prison to produce goods for the new(or was that old) ‘lord and master system’!
4.I believe that is what the ‘party’ wants that is running this country…and they’re doing it by using just two issues..abortion and religion.
The powers that be in our country are enabling the anti-christ Rove…AND IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN HEAVEN OR HELL, IT SURE MAKES YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IN THE HELL PART!
Rove is going down. At the very least Fitzgerald has him on purgery. A lie about a CIA agent is definately more damaging than a lie about a b.j.
It’s funny how it always goes back to Clinton. Are these cons serious when they believe that only dems cheat on their wives? Come on, you know Bushie has cheated on Laura. Who do you think your kidding? Wake up to reality already, all men in powerful positions fool around.
August 18th, 2005 at 8:42 pmBush was never put under oath–even for the 911 commission.
August 18th, 2005 at 9:02 pm#25 “Told the truth to the best of his abiiity?” You’ve got to be kidding. You put in 3 words, which are not part of this administration’s language….Truth, Best & Ability. Here are men (&women), who will stare you in the eyes, pick your pocket, ransack your home,let your daughter become pregnant, then force her to have it, steal your retirement money, your pension, do away with your job. Throw your parents out on the street and take away most of their medical benefits. Their kids are going to college, yours are stocking shelves at Walmart. They’re driving around in luxury cars, you’re hitchhiking. Their sons or daughters are out partying it up, yours was thrust into boot camp for a couple of weeks, then got their a**es kicked to Iraq.
August 18th, 2005 at 9:04 pmI think if Bush told the truth, he’d have a heart attach, based on whether he has a heart,,,,
Did you know that traitor Karl Rove received a $4,000 RAISE in July? I guess that’s the price one pays for treason in the Bush Administration.
http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2005/0726nj_wh_dollar.htm
P.S. Today Dick “The Ejaculating Coward” Cheney addressed the 73rd Convention of the Military Order of the Purple Heart. The Dick, who said he had “OTHER PRIORITIES” in the Vietnam era, helped himself to FIVE draft deferments. He immediately impregnated his wife once the Selective Service publicly revoked its policy of not drafting childless husbands, and daughter Elizabeth Cheney was born precisely NINE MONTHS AND TWO DAYS after the policy change was announced.
August 18th, 2005 at 9:21 pmTHe Fascist rethugs are imploding and they know it. They have been caught lying us into an illegal war red handed, resulting in the deaths of 100,000+ innocent iraqis. They have bankrupted our country to make their buddies rich. They have made the entire world hate us. ANYONE who still supports Bush should be tried for treason. EVERYONE in the Bush administration should be tried for war crimes and locked up for life. EVERY law chimpy signed should be stricken from the books. Period.
August 18th, 2005 at 10:01 pmRight on Truth!
August 18th, 2005 at 11:49 pm#80 is right — Bush will not be found to have lied under oaht because he won’t take an oath.
August 19th, 2005 at 12:16 amWELL DONE #78, 79, 80, 81,82,83!!!
August 19th, 2005 at 12:18 amEveryday I pray that people with good sense will get power, and people with power will get good sense!
so far 2000-2005 NO LUCK
August 19th, 2005 at 12:20 amNever mind an apology!
August 19th, 2005 at 11:17 amI want his Resignation!
History lesson: The Republican who fathered a daughter by a black woman was Strom Thurmond. He committed this dastardly deed when he was a segregationist Democrat (you know, like Robert Byrd). He found the courage to apologize and take responsibility when he was a Republican. We report, you decide.
Comment by Blue State Red — August 18, 2005
ACTUALLY YOU IDIOT, TRENT LOTT WAS A REPUGNICAN FROM MISSISSIPPI. NEVER EVER A DEM.
You bozos can’t tell the truth. You ALL LIE SO MUCH you have to have someone else call your dog.
August 19th, 2005 at 5:59 pmMy bad, doing 2 things at once…
STROM THURMAN – south carolina….. never a dem.
August 19th, 2005 at 6:02 pm