Comments on: BREAKING: Bush’s Latest Attack Against Cindy Sheehan

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By: Ed

Ed — Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:07:07 +0000

All this rhetoric about our troops fighting in Iraq to preserve our freedom is non-sense. They are in Iraq as retaliation for 9/11 and the acts of the Saudi misfit Usama Bin Laden. Bin Laden embarrassed the warped little mind of George Bush and voila â€“ thousands of American troops are marching around in a foreign desert saving face. Iraq had a madman at the helm and so do we, but our madman has more toys.

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By: Jacob

Jacob — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 02:16:59 +0000

i read the first couple of comments and this is what i have to say. Death happens all the time its not like a death in your family will ruin your life. Cindy’s son voulenteered for military service. He signed up once to go and die and he was released and he signed up again. He knew what he was getting into and what might happen. Cindy’s husband was reported as saying that she is doing this so that she can be in the spotlight. Have you heard the latest sheehan comment Paraphrase: ‘I’m insulted that the media is focusing on hurricane Rita so much. there are more important things to report’ The response that comes to mind is “like your recent misdemenor and arrest. So as a greiving mother why were you smiling when the police opressed your right to protest by carring you away from the sidewalk you were illegaly blocking. For God’s sake go home before you make us all so sick that no one will submit to be your neighbor.

By: Sharon Cox

Sharon Cox — Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:35:04 +0000

Mondo, I can’t dispute any of this cause I don’t know. Would love to have some of your info sources though, can you share where I can get this info. I’m old but still willing to listen and learn, then will make up my own conclusions. One thing I do know is the Saudi prince who held hands with Bush in the garden and the Saudis wife did contribute heavely to all of Ben Laudens bunch of killers. Can’t give the sources right now but read about those accounts several years ago. The Bushes are not what the right think they are, never have been. They are a rabid bunch..Blessings

By: mondo

mondo — Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:56:59 +0000

If Bin Laden is still alive, then why did the CIA release fake videos with a fake Bin Laden? And why is it that we fear a guy named Zarqawi who’s never been seen, never been photographed? The two photos we have of him are both over 7 years old! Zarqawi and Bin Laden are dead. Bin Laden used to work for the CIA. His CIA name was “Tom Osman.”

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

By: Sharon Cox

Sharon Cox — Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:46:34 +0000

Your Welcome Alexa and I respect and honor your views as well. I think we would be good neighbors and perhaps friends. I live on a tiny dead end road at a resort in my old motor home that no longer takes me any where but could if the need arrises. I live here for the peace and beauty and the biggie, low rent. Owning land is no longer practical or productive. Ten years of planting my little plot have created an english garden, over grown with morning glories and bird feeders. Funny considering I am 3/4 irish. Since learning to use a free gift of my iMac 2 years ago I have been on a quest of peace and tolerance. Something I was not able to do untill then. One other goal I have had a little sucess at is to sign up people to vote. I do not care how they vote, only that they do. It would be nice if they felt the way I do on many issues but the fact they havent ever voted at all and could bothers me more. Last year I managed to get to old neighbors to sign up for the first time, ever. One 63 year old and another 58. Both were old military men. Sad huh! I signed up and cast my first vote and haven’t missed an election since my 21 birthday. For year’s I have heard ” why vote, it won’t make a diffrence”. Our percentage of non voters is staggering and to me one is not allowed to complain about the way things are unless they are a voter or joiner in a given process. Well enough of my soap box. Thank you for your reply and kindness…Blessings

By: alexa

alexa — Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:51:24 +0000

Sharon, I wish you lived on my block – you seem to be a dear, sweet woman and while we might disagree on some fundamental issues, I treasure your perspective. Thank you!!

By: Sharon Cox

Sharon Cox — Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:45:01 +0000

Mondo, may I differ in oponion and maybe shed a little light on our troops. Most guard and military join to defend our country, further their education and give back something to the world in general.This will be an old womans simplistic version. Going way back our soldiers were protecting their own land and joining up with their neighbors to accomplish that, very soon it became a land grab situation, run out the present owners to take their land, in the case of our first fore fathers when they landed on these shores. Then we came to the civil rights issues of the north and south. I do hope that will never be repeated but given the devider now in the white house the possibility is there.I have left out the hundreds of little and some big wars started and ended by both sides for the land grabs, mineral and spices. Many on both sides can be called freedom fighters, dictators or just plane nut jobs.During Nam and now given our technolegy we should not loose any of our soldiers for war. My unqualified opinion. Given who is now in charge we may be at war with some one in the world forever or untill we run out of troops and resourses.War and relegion are big business. I do not agree that our troops are murders altho they do have to kill. First and formost they have to have total alegance to our country, comander and chief and any one above them in rank to go in and do what is asked for them to do.These qualaties are the core to sucess providing the ones giving the orders use this power wisley and only when absolutely necessary. Here in lies the main problem.Bush is a re hab drunk, arrogant and on a vendetta against Sadam when he came into office. He cares less about Benlauden’s where abouts and holds hands with the very arab family that financed the terrorests causing 9/11. I was a young adult during Nam, home, taking care of a family. I agreed with the peace movement but was never then or now ungrateful for our servicemen and women. Treating the troops badly is shameful, it’s just their job. Bush or any one in charge at the top are the one’s to be held accountable. Even the few bad apples in our service are a cause and effect of the higher up’s. Rummy, Bush, Chaney, Rice just to name a few. We have been sold a pack of lies and thousands have died, many more have been injured and unless we get some people in charge with good brain cells we are in for a long enduring mess.Please forgive the length and poor spelling. No one is required to agree with me or I them. We must all get informed and involved for the sake of our country and the world..Blessings

By: mondo

mondo — Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:26:52 +0000

Why are we even supporting the troops? They volunteered for this crap. They WANT TO torture, murder, and maim Like Bill Maher said, “They done picked all the low lying fruit”. I wish the anti war crowd would stop allowing Republicons to stop pigeon holing us by setting the talking points.

By: Sharon Cox

Sharon Cox — Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:18:14 +0000

Alexa, I thank you for your response. Blessings to you and your family for their service and dedication. I don’t begrudge people of wealth and only criticise openly when someone shows total disregard for their fellow man and uses their power and wealth at the expense of less fortunate to further their vendettas or power control. Right wing big business at our militaries expense is not a just cause for the Iraq war and all who have died.Ben Lauden and all who follow him are still the target. Your family is intitled to grieve any way you see fit as Cindy and I are.Cindy’s other issues are not enough for me to be a critic. I still remember vivedly my own loss and things people said to me and my responses at the time. We do have many simaraties, altho I post here and am a Democrat most of the time, I to read a lot from the left, right and center, along with NPR and truthful news broadcasts. My thoughts are with you and your family ( all in service or not ) and all our people who have been sent on this dreadful mission. Perhaps the one thing we can gain most is empathy even if we disagree on major issues. Maybe one of our biggest problems as a people is we can’t communicate with a bush. This particular bush has been planted in a wealthy garden, accountable to none, arragent and unfeeling and demanded total alegance to the point of distroying his critics. Thank you again and Blessings.

By: Mary Popsin

Mary Popsin — Sat, 27 Aug 2005 23:55:57 +0000

I think old bushie should sent his twin daughters, nephews and nieces over to Iraq. There are 17 of them. None of the Bush children have serviced in the military. Let them come home in a body bag or one or two limbs missing. It’s different for the rich. Bush was AWOL at the time of the vietnam war, a coward he is. This also includes the congress, if they had to send their children over there, they wouldn’t have voted for this war.

By: alexa

alexa — Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:40:23 +0000

Thank you, Sharon, for your blessings – I for one, appreciate them! I do not “knock Cindy” for her understandable and heart wrenching grief or for exercising her freedom of speech and protesting the policies of our government. I am critical of Cindy referring to terrorists as “freedom fighters”, her lumping Afghanistan and Iraq together, her desired abandonment of Israel, and (finally – but by no means, least) using her son’s casket as a soap box. I will be happy to provide her with a new and durable soap box where she can hop on call President Bush a “lying bastard” to her heart’s content. Her disagreement with the Bush administration was long before brave Casey’s death. She herself remarked (when asked about the disagreement from the ‘other family members’) that those relatives had always been on the “other side of the fence” politically. Sadly for Cindy, Casey chose to re-enlist. We will never know why he courageously attempted to save others on a mission he volunteered for. My 41 year old “baby” brother just retrurned from his third deployment on August 1st. He served once in Afghanistan and twice in Iraq since 9/11. As for having lost family members in battle, sadly, I tell you, we have lost 5. (The youngest was 20 – the oldest was 26, married with two little girls.) We grieve for them and are immensely proud of them. Like you,I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth to pay for my travels – unlike you, I do not begrudge others who have more than me. I, too, try to be a critical thinker – I read and visit progressives books and sites as well as conservative. As for that murderer, bin Laden, I think he is somewhere on the Afghan/Pakistan border with the aid of other 7th century thinkers. Shalom!!

By: Sharon Cox

Sharon Cox — Sat, 27 Aug 2005 03:26:30 +0000

Excus me Alexa I forgot to ask a big favor. If you do know where Ben Lauden is would you be so kind and let Bush and company know or better yet send him a map pin pointing the area. I think Bush and company are lost and since I am not well traveled or well heeled I can’t help. Besides the white house never responds to my phone calls or emails, think it has to do with being an anti war, enviromental, free thinking, civil rights old woman. Ya Think? Blessings to all in this forum.

By: Sharon Cox

Sharon Cox — Sat, 27 Aug 2005 03:02:58 +0000

Well Alexa, I unlike you do not have the money or good health to travel and since I am one of the old working class and do not belong to the un affected right wing radical republicans I must work here at home to attempt better change for our country and around the world. It’s good to have a dialogue of all views and also empathy for grieving parents and loved one’s. I have never been a sheep and don’t believe what any one tells me with out good research. Much of what you mentioned I lived through here in the USA. Cindy and all grieving parents have the same right’s as you. Why are you knocking Cindy anyway.? Do those of us that want this war ended and all our military home and safe offend you some how.? I think we would be better served if all our troops were securing our own borders and air space. War is big business and the cost of one life on either side is to high. Have you lost any one to war.? Oh and by the way, do you know where Ben Lauden is?

By: alexa

alexa — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:40:18 +0000

#299 – Those fish tales can be real whoppers – remember when the knock on the door came in Iraq, -or -the “imperialistic” Soviet bloc – or – half of Africa – or – closer to home, that bastion of “progressive action”, Cuba or that “paradise” corrupted by Papa Doc and Baby Doc Duvalier – and Red China,, where capitalism is undermining the uni-thinking of the masses. Mercifully, some of these places have been “liberated” as much as some hate to admit it. I get out more than you think – you should travel a bit more widely. And get Cindy a real soap box, please!

By: Sharon Cox

Sharon Cox — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:46:15 +0000

Donna, I am happy for you and your family and thankful for their contribution and service, however I do not agree that Cindy is dishonoring her son’s service or likes publicity to much. First and formost, she and every parent or family who has lost any one in any war has the moral high ground. Just as you and I can speek our minds here in this forum, we can and should question everything our government does in our name. Our constitution does not say as far as I remember, don’t ask Bush or any of his administration about what they have or have not done, and if you do you will be smeared. Like Cindy I hold our service personell in very high regard and am furious that even 1 life would be lost for a family vendetta or profit for the Carlile and Hallaburton bunch in office. Taking lives in the 100.000 plus, men women and children and putting our own in harms way is not self defence. And Ben Lauden is where.? Our home land security is worse now than before and most assuredly when they finish closing all these bases, which will cost the tax payers more to close than keep open. One more startling point Bush and Company had cut to the bone vetrans benefits, what’s that about.? vetrans are begging for care when they get home, maybe Patty Murry and a few others are finelly opening senators eys to the vet’s needs. Yes Donna, you and I should be able to say what we want, but the most important things are to be able to ask the questions, peaceful demonstration when we don’t get the answers and impeach the wrong doers.

By: Elvis

Elvis — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:50:47 +0000

Donna,
Your value system makes you believe/say that “She dishonors her son and all who serve.” Her value system as well as others is different, and from my perspective, based on what I know, she believes and feels that there is nothing more honorable that she could do for her son, as well as for everyone else. So she is acting on it.

It is wrong to generally say that “She dishonors her son and all who serve…” without qualifying that statement as coming from your perspective, and that you may actually be wrong in saying it.

Self-delusion breedâ€™s pride, pride breeds the inability to learn.

I encourage you to be careful of what you are proud of, as pride can get in your way of vision and knowledge.

In fact, the recruitment figures are quite low. Here is some data from Oxford Research Group:

“In spite of all of these inducements, the Army has persistently failed to meet its monthly recruitment targets, even when those targets have, on occasions, been lowered. The Army’s May recruitment figures were actually some 35% down on the original target figure, and Army National Guard enlistment was down by 29%. Recruiting into the Marine Corps was less badly hit, as was recruitment for the Air Force and Navy, but the Marine Corps is relatively small compared with the Army, and regarded as more of an elite force, and the Air Force and Navy have suffered proportionally far fewer casualties in Iraq than the Army.”

http://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/publications/paulrogers/June05.htm

Recruitment figures have been getting better, only because the services have reduced their targets so that the figures don’t look so bad.

Chomsky writes: “States are not moral agents.”

By: Donna S.

Donna S. — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:53:51 +0000

It is an all volunteer Army, Navy Air Force, Marines and
Coast Guard. The recruitment numbers are quite high and the Bush girls, although party animals, are not required to serve in uniform (unless they volunteer to do so). My husband is a retired AF pilot and my daughter, a 2LT, is an Air Force nurse. Im so proud of them. I feel sorry for Cindy Sheehan’s loss, but I do not support her camp out nor her name calling. She dishonors her son and all who serve. She should go home and grieve, but alas I think she likes the publicity too much.