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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING: &#8220;Independent&#8221; Ethicist Defending Roberts Actually A Pentagon Consultant</title>
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		<title>By: Evan Baumann</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/26/pentagon-consultant/comment-page-2/#comment-274606</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Baumann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. Just letting you know that I enjoyed your site. Memorizing Game is always White Cards: http://www.walkthelinethemovie.com/ , Loose Chips is very good TV &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fahrenheit911.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Central is feature of International Cosmos&lt;/a&gt; , Lazy TV is always Central Soldier &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sawmovie.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;when Stake Loose Girl Destroy&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. Just letting you know that I enjoyed your site. Memorizing Game is always White Cards: <a href="http://www.walkthelinethemovie.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.walkthelinethemovie.com/</a> , Loose Chips is very good TV <a href="http://www.fahrenheit911.com/" rel="nofollow">Central is feature of International Cosmos</a> , Lazy TV is always Central Soldier <a href="http://www.sawmovie.com/" rel="nofollow">when Stake Loose Girl Destroy</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=274606', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Think Progress &#187; Washington Post Papers Over Ethics Controversy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Progress &#187; Washington Post Papers Over Ethics Controversy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 15:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rotunda&#8217;s role at the Department of Defense is a conflict-of-interest in its own right. Nevertheless, Rotunda has repeatedly offered his analysis to the media and members of Congress without disclosing his job with the Defense Department. Here is what Rotunda said when confronted by the Legal Times about it: I don&#8217;t know what I was supposed to do, Should I include a long list of disclosures on every piece of legal advice I give, like you get when you buy a bottle of Benadryl? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rotunda&#8217;s role at the Department of Defense is a conflict-of-interest in its own right. Nevertheless, Rotunda has repeatedly offered his analysis to the media and members of Congress without disclosing his job with the Defense Department. Here is what Rotunda said when confronted by the Legal Times about it: I don&#8217;t know what I was supposed to do, Should I include a long list of disclosures on every piece of legal advice I give, like you get when you buy a bottle of Benadryl? [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=124935', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: KJ Lovell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/26/pentagon-consultant/comment-page-2/#comment-114604</link>
		<dc:creator>KJ Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#76, Nor East DIMENTIA knows
NOTHING ABOUT INTELLIGENCE.

I have tried to talk some sanity into it, but

You can only beat the FARTS out of a dead horse for so long.  And 

You just can&#039;t FIX STUPID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#76, Nor East DIMENTIA knows<br />
NOTHING ABOUT INTELLIGENCE.</p>
<p>I have tried to talk some sanity into it, but</p>
<p>You can only beat the FARTS out of a dead horse for so long.  And </p>
<p>You just can&#8217;t FIX STUPID.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=114604', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/26/pentagon-consultant/comment-page-2/#comment-113792</link>
		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: #37 - NED,  explain one thing to me, how do you teach Intelligent Design?  It seems to me there is nothing to teach - there are no facts to support this so-called theory.  I have no problem seeing it (whatever &quot;it&quot; is) taught in a humanities class or a comparative religion class, but it has absolutely no place in a science class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #37 &#8211; NED,  explain one thing to me, how do you teach Intelligent Design?  It seems to me there is nothing to teach &#8211; there are no facts to support this so-called theory.  I have no problem seeing it (whatever &#8220;it&#8221; is) taught in a humanities class or a comparative religion class, but it has absolutely no place in a science class.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=113792', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/26/pentagon-consultant/comment-page-2/#comment-113490</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schools that are anti-Darwin are now having to go to court to get their mal-informed students admitted to real colleges, NED.
Of course, you wouldn&#039;t know anything about higher education, would you NED?
Coulter is a tabloid-grade pundit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schools that are anti-Darwin are now having to go to court to get their mal-informed students admitted to real colleges, NED.<br />
Of course, you wouldn&#8217;t know anything about higher education, would you NED?<br />
Coulter is a tabloid-grade pundit.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=113490', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SpudgeBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpudgeBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#72 

I agree 100%. Anybody that can&#039;t see there is a cofflict of interest in this situation is ethically challenge.</description>
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<p>I agree 100%. Anybody that can&#8217;t see there is a cofflict of interest in this situation is ethically challenge.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=113400', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: burnspbesq</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor Rotunda&#039;s letter accuses Professors Gillers et al of ignoring relevant case law in their analysis.  To which I would reply: but Professor Rotunda, what about In re Continental Airlines, 901 F.2d 1253 (5th Cir. 1990)? Doesn&#039;t that case make it clear beyond a shadow of a doubt that Judge Roberts should have recused himself?  Or did you simply ignore it in your letter to Senator Specter because it refutes the point you are trying to make?  Or do you deserve a grade of &quot;incomplete&quot; for this little research project?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Rotunda&#8217;s letter accuses Professors Gillers et al of ignoring relevant case law in their analysis.  To which I would reply: but Professor Rotunda, what about In re Continental Airlines, 901 F.2d 1253 (5th Cir. 1990)? Doesn&#8217;t that case make it clear beyond a shadow of a doubt that Judge Roberts should have recused himself?  Or did you simply ignore it in your letter to Senator Specter because it refutes the point you are trying to make?  Or do you deserve a grade of &#8220;incomplete&#8221; for this little research project?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=113204', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Australia</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/26/pentagon-consultant/comment-page-2/#comment-113089</link>
		<dc:creator>Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 23:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand and sympathize with your problems - we&#039;re in a similar bind here. Political parties are masters of presenting themselves in a way that they believe maximizes their coverage of public opinion though, so lining up behind one party or the other is circular reinforcement.

It would seem that discussion about the impact of decisions would be more productive if they were to be conducted independently, then the consensus opinion was weighed against the parties&#039; policies.

Of course, I would anticipate that more people would just arrive at your opinion, so perhaps you&#039;re already doing this. Our own PM (John Howard) is Bush&#039;s lap dog, so is less exposed than Bush. No less culpable though, and embarrasingly incapable of original thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand and sympathize with your problems &#8211; we&#8217;re in a similar bind here. Political parties are masters of presenting themselves in a way that they believe maximizes their coverage of public opinion though, so lining up behind one party or the other is circular reinforcement.</p>
<p>It would seem that discussion about the impact of decisions would be more productive if they were to be conducted independently, then the consensus opinion was weighed against the parties&#8217; policies.</p>
<p>Of course, I would anticipate that more people would just arrive at your opinion, so perhaps you&#8217;re already doing this. Our own PM (John Howard) is Bush&#8217;s lap dog, so is less exposed than Bush. No less culpable though, and embarrasingly incapable of original thought.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=113089', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SpudgeBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpudgeBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 23:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello down under,

Many of the progressive folks here fault the Dems for their problems, as well as the republicans. We wanted to get Bush out in &#039;04, but we were offered a Republican-lite candidate. Trying to get an Independant voted in is next to impossible. SO, we have a real problem with the Dems voting republican on a lot of things. We are in a real bind over here. People that are speaking out against Bush are comingout of the woodwork, which I say &quot;It&#039;s about time!&quot;

We can keep working at getting him out of office. I don&#039;t believe that impeachment is enough. Bush is guilty of war crimes. He needs to go to jail with the rest of his cronies. But alas, they can all pardon each other. Bastards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello down under,</p>
<p>Many of the progressive folks here fault the Dems for their problems, as well as the republicans. We wanted to get Bush out in &#8216;04, but we were offered a Republican-lite candidate. Trying to get an Independant voted in is next to impossible. SO, we have a real problem with the Dems voting republican on a lot of things. We are in a real bind over here. People that are speaking out against Bush are comingout of the woodwork, which I say &#8220;It&#8217;s about time!&#8221;</p>
<p>We can keep working at getting him out of office. I don&#8217;t believe that impeachment is enough. Bush is guilty of war crimes. He needs to go to jail with the rest of his cronies. But alas, they can all pardon each other. Bastards!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=113084', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Australia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 22:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basing discussions on which political side you support abstracts you away from any direct responsibility for the decision. Perhaps this is a coping mechanism? All of your very intelligent responses would be a lot more valid if you could drop your allegiance to a party and look at the impact of policy decisions as the rest of the world sees them - as an action and reaction rather than as a side-game between two factions on the same team.

Open your eyes. This isn&#039;t about you - it&#039;s about the whole world. You have a global responsibility to impeach Bush. His lies have resulted in thousands dying, yet you impeached Clinton for a cum-stained dress? Is anyone awake over there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basing discussions on which political side you support abstracts you away from any direct responsibility for the decision. Perhaps this is a coping mechanism? All of your very intelligent responses would be a lot more valid if you could drop your allegiance to a party and look at the impact of policy decisions as the rest of the world sees them &#8211; as an action and reaction rather than as a side-game between two factions on the same team.</p>
<p>Open your eyes. This isn&#8217;t about you &#8211; it&#8217;s about the whole world. You have a global responsibility to impeach Bush. His lies have resulted in thousands dying, yet you impeached Clinton for a cum-stained dress? Is anyone awake over there?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=113083', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Think Progress &#187; Legal Ethicist Defending Roberts Has History of Questionable Conduct</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Progress &#187; Legal Ethicist Defending Roberts Has History of Questionable Conduct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yesterday we revealed that Rotunda &#8212; who is presenting himself as a neutral legal ethicist &#8212; was, until very recently, a paid military advisor to the Department of Defense on military commissions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yesterday we revealed that Rotunda &#8212; who is presenting himself as a neutral legal ethicist &#8212; was, until very recently, a paid military advisor to the Department of Defense on military commissions. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=113046', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: GoD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/25/politics/25memo.html


http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/08/desire-v-duty-on-supreme-court.html</description>
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<p><a href="http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/08/desire-v-duty-on-supreme-court.html" rel="nofollow">http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/08/desire-v-duty-on-supreme-court.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=113044', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: GoD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I do not understand what the Democrats problem is with John Roberts. A mainstream guy like Roberts will be able to bring more balance to the supreme court.
Now from what I remember part of the reason the Democrats lost last time was partly because they were becoming too extremist or at least being controlled by an extremist faction within their own party. It is not in the countries best interest or in their best interest to oppose this guy unless the Democrats want to be seen as extremists who wish to maintain an imbalance on the high court. 

Comment by Johanan Raatz â€” August 26, 2005 @ 5:15 pm &lt;/em&gt;

This needs to be de-propagandized. Even the most radical leftists today have more in common with the American political landscape of the late 40&#039;s and early 50s than any of these extremist radicals on the right. People like Roberts and the FedSoc were once investigated by the FBI, like the JBS, and formed terrorist groups like the Posse Comitatus and the Freemen. The left has drifted so far to the right, along with politics in general, to call it radical or extremist is the hieght of absurdity.

Rewrite:

I understand what the Democrats problem is with John Roberts. An extremist like Roberts will be able to undo 200 years of precedent, eliminate the independent judiciary, making the supreme court an appendage of the one party state, by overturning Marbury v. Madison, the true goal of the extremist activists at the FedSoc.

This part is so convoluted it needs no real rewrite. It&#039;s just absurd.

Now from what I remember part of the reason the Democrats lost in 2000 was the liberal, activist court (LMAO!) and partly because they were becoming too extremist or at least being controlled by an extremist faction within their own party. It is not in the countries best interest or in their best interest to oppose this guy unless the Democrats want to be seen as extremists who wish to maintain an imbalance on the high court. 

Comment by Johanan Raatz â€” August 26, 2005 @ 5:15 pm 

Whatever the right suggests you do, do the exact opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I do not understand what the Democrats problem is with John Roberts. A mainstream guy like Roberts will be able to bring more balance to the supreme court.<br />
Now from what I remember part of the reason the Democrats lost last time was partly because they were becoming too extremist or at least being controlled by an extremist faction within their own party. It is not in the countries best interest or in their best interest to oppose this guy unless the Democrats want to be seen as extremists who wish to maintain an imbalance on the high court. </p>
<p>Comment by Johanan Raatz â€” August 26, 2005 @ 5:15 pm </em></p>
<p>This needs to be de-propagandized. Even the most radical leftists today have more in common with the American political landscape of the late 40&#8217;s and early 50s than any of these extremist radicals on the right. People like Roberts and the FedSoc were once investigated by the FBI, like the JBS, and formed terrorist groups like the Posse Comitatus and the Freemen. The left has drifted so far to the right, along with politics in general, to call it radical or extremist is the hieght of absurdity.</p>
<p>Rewrite:</p>
<p>I understand what the Democrats problem is with John Roberts. An extremist like Roberts will be able to undo 200 years of precedent, eliminate the independent judiciary, making the supreme court an appendage of the one party state, by overturning Marbury v. Madison, the true goal of the extremist activists at the FedSoc.</p>
<p>This part is so convoluted it needs no real rewrite. It&#8217;s just absurd.</p>
<p>Now from what I remember part of the reason the Democrats lost in 2000 was the liberal, activist court (LMAO!) and partly because they were becoming too extremist or at least being controlled by an extremist faction within their own party. It is not in the countries best interest or in their best interest to oppose this guy unless the Democrats want to be seen as extremists who wish to maintain an imbalance on the high court. </p>
<p>Comment by Johanan Raatz â€” August 26, 2005 @ 5:15 pm </p>
<p>Whatever the right suggests you do, do the exact opposite.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=113043', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: GoD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Gang,

Just heard from a friend in Washington. Apparently Bruce Reed (DLC guy) is penning an op-ed to be published in Sundayâ€™s Wash Post which will blast Cindy Sheehan and the anti-war movement. Brace yourselves! &lt;/em&gt;

Spare us! The DLC? What a Joke! Worse than the GOP and RNC. No one listens to them, anyway. BTW, is your last name Breckinridge?

http://members.tripod.com/~myrasite/contents.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Gang,</p>
<p>Just heard from a friend in Washington. Apparently Bruce Reed (DLC guy) is penning an op-ed to be published in Sundayâ€™s Wash Post which will blast Cindy Sheehan and the anti-war movement. Brace yourselves! </em></p>
<p>Spare us! The DLC? What a Joke! Worse than the GOP and RNC. No one listens to them, anyway. BTW, is your last name Breckinridge?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Sacto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Sacto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Bush cabal is so incestuous...it&#039;s a house of smoke and mirrors.  Nothing&#039;s real, it&#039;s all staged.  The case Roberts had before him was the most important legal case in the United States right now.  In effect, his decision allows Bush to jail a civilian American citizen in a military brig for years without charges.  According to the Constitution, the President needs to declare martial law to get away with that kind of crap.  Padilla was held incommunicado for two years.  He still hasn&#039;t been charged with anything after more than three years.  Is this America??  If Roberts is confirmed, expect more of the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Bush cabal is so incestuous&#8230;it&#8217;s a house of smoke and mirrors.  Nothing&#8217;s real, it&#8217;s all staged.  The case Roberts had before him was the most important legal case in the United States right now.  In effect, his decision allows Bush to jail a civilian American citizen in a military brig for years without charges.  According to the Constitution, the President needs to declare martial law to get away with that kind of crap.  Padilla was held incommunicado for two years.  He still hasn&#8217;t been charged with anything after more than three years.  Is this America??  If Roberts is confirmed, expect more of the same.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=113035', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: scalene</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/26/pentagon-consultant/comment-page-2/#comment-112964</link>
		<dc:creator>scalene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 09:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rich said: ``Iâ€™ve been a fan of Ronald Rotunda for sometime and think he is a standup guy. Your post hasnâ€™t convinced me otherwise. Itâ€™s possible to wear two hats.&#039;&#039;

the problem here is that although it is certainly possible to wear two hats, it is also certainly a conflict of interest.  &lt;b&gt;no matter how honorable the head may be.&lt;/b&gt;  in Rotunda&#039;s case, he not only was wearing two hats, but he failed to disclose that he was wearing one of them.  a truly &quot;standup guy&quot; would have been upfront about it.  that omission on his part is more than enough to discredit his views in the area of ethics, and especially on the subject of Roberts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rich said: &#8220;Iâ€™ve been a fan of Ronald Rotunda for sometime and think he is a standup guy. Your post hasnâ€™t convinced me otherwise. Itâ€™s possible to wear two hats.&#8221;</p>
<p>the problem here is that although it is certainly possible to wear two hats, it is also certainly a conflict of interest.  <b>no matter how honorable the head may be.</b>  in Rotunda&#8217;s case, he not only was wearing two hats, but he failed to disclose that he was wearing one of them.  a truly &#8220;standup guy&#8221; would have been upfront about it.  that omission on his part is more than enough to discredit his views in the area of ethics, and especially on the subject of Roberts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=112964', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Elvis</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/26/pentagon-consultant/comment-page-2/#comment-112390</link>
		<dc:creator>Elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as &quot;cultural values.&quot; We, the people of this country (The U.S.) are not brothers and sisters, not friends our even acquaintances. 

A country of free people would be a country full of people with their own individual values, and those values would be treated with respect and dignity by everyone. That doesnâ€™t mean that we canâ€™t disagree, it means that we have to respect each others rights to be who they are, no matter whom that is. 

As soon as people begin to think that we all must have the same values as everyone else, and then use the words like â€œpatriotismâ€ to define them, then it is those very people who box in freedom. 

Being a patriotic American has nothing to do with saluting the flag, or singing the national anthem. It has nothing to do with supporting our troops, or believing in our elected officials. 

A patriotic American is one that believes in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, AND that that means that every single individual has the right to define what makes them happy, and how they want to pursue it. If that means that they want to own a huge organization that dominates the global market, then fine. If that means that they want to climb trees and keep people from cutting them down, because they believe in preserving natural resources, great. If that means that they are gay and want to marry someone of the same sex, so be it. They have the right to do what they wish, be who they are, and believe what they believe, without interference, within the limits of the laws that are written around these very same principles. 

One, who believes in this, is a patriotic American. Communists have a place in America; Jews have a place in America; Black Panthers have a place in America; people who could care less about any issue have a place in America; Nazi&#039;s have a place in America. These are all people with ideals, and beliefs, and as long as they stay within the law, which means that they don&#039;t impede on my rights or yours to be who we wish, think what we want, then they are patriotic Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as &#8220;cultural values.&#8221; We, the people of this country (The U.S.) are not brothers and sisters, not friends our even acquaintances. </p>
<p>A country of free people would be a country full of people with their own individual values, and those values would be treated with respect and dignity by everyone. That doesnâ€™t mean that we canâ€™t disagree, it means that we have to respect each others rights to be who they are, no matter whom that is. </p>
<p>As soon as people begin to think that we all must have the same values as everyone else, and then use the words like â€œpatriotismâ€ to define them, then it is those very people who box in freedom. </p>
<p>Being a patriotic American has nothing to do with saluting the flag, or singing the national anthem. It has nothing to do with supporting our troops, or believing in our elected officials. </p>
<p>A patriotic American is one that believes in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, AND that that means that every single individual has the right to define what makes them happy, and how they want to pursue it. If that means that they want to own a huge organization that dominates the global market, then fine. If that means that they want to climb trees and keep people from cutting them down, because they believe in preserving natural resources, great. If that means that they are gay and want to marry someone of the same sex, so be it. They have the right to do what they wish, be who they are, and believe what they believe, without interference, within the limits of the laws that are written around these very same principles. </p>
<p>One, who believes in this, is a patriotic American. Communists have a place in America; Jews have a place in America; Black Panthers have a place in America; people who could care less about any issue have a place in America; Nazi&#8217;s have a place in America. These are all people with ideals, and beliefs, and as long as they stay within the law, which means that they don&#8217;t impede on my rights or yours to be who we wish, think what we want, then they are patriotic Americans.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=112390', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Nobs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/26/pentagon-consultant/comment-page-2/#comment-112382</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 03:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing what you can find out when you look beyond the &#039;unbiased&#039; (and seriously braindead!)media...  I am not at all surprised at this article.  Nor am I surprised that, even on little ol&#039; obscure websites, the zealots of the right are working so hard to make sure that no pesky &#039;facts&#039; get past without adding their &#039;spin&#039; to them.  Why don&#039;t you boys go and play in your own deluded little circles, and quit patronizing the American public?  We aren&#039;t nearly as stupid as you think and we are growing VERY tired of being fed your lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing what you can find out when you look beyond the &#8216;unbiased&#8217; (and seriously braindead!)media&#8230;  I am not at all surprised at this article.  Nor am I surprised that, even on little ol&#8217; obscure websites, the zealots of the right are working so hard to make sure that no pesky &#8216;facts&#8217; get past without adding their &#8217;spin&#8217; to them.  Why don&#8217;t you boys go and play in your own deluded little circles, and quit patronizing the American public?  We aren&#8217;t nearly as stupid as you think and we are growing VERY tired of being fed your lies.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=112382', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/26/pentagon-consultant/comment-page-2/#comment-112344</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 01:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NED, don&#039;t you think those &quot;cultural values&quot; Bush continually crows about are wearing a little thin?  I mean, Jeeeze, only a few simpleton&#039;s in that 40% bracket you are talking about are still buying into that tired old crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NED, don&#8217;t you think those &#8220;cultural values&#8221; Bush continually crows about are wearing a little thin?  I mean, Jeeeze, only a few simpleton&#8217;s in that 40% bracket you are talking about are still buying into that tired old crap.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=112344', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean Hannity</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/26/pentagon-consultant/comment-page-2/#comment-112343</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Hannity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 00:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NED actually admitted to watching my show, and reading the hate speech of Ann Coulter. he is a fellow sheep-like conservative like myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NED actually admitted to watching my show, and reading the hate speech of Ann Coulter. he is a fellow sheep-like conservative like myself.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=112343', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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