Roberts Knew He Was Acting Unethically
Roberts Knew He Was Acting Unethically
In April, Judge John Roberts “heard arguments about the Bush administration’s [Guantanamo Bay] policy as he was discussing a Supreme Court appointment in private conversations with the White House.” On July 15, “when Judge Roberts met with President Bush for the job-clinching interview, he joined a ruling in favor of the defendants, who included Mr. Bush.” The White House claims Roberts didn’t do anything wrong. Bush spokesman Steve Schmitt said “there was no conflict whatsoever.”
John Roberts knows better and we have proof.
In 1986, when John Roberts was working in the White House Counsel’s Office for President Reagan, he was asked to review a mundane request by an attorney named Lester Hyman. Roberts replied:
I must recuse myself from this matter, in light of pending discussions with Mr. Hyman’s firm about future employment.
So Roberts understands it’s unethical to make professional decisions that impact a prospective employer. When it came to the prospect of a nomination to the Supreme Court, Roberts simply set ethics aside.
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This shoudl disqualify roberts from the Supreme Court. It’s disgusting.
August 26th, 2005 at 9:07 amThis is hysterical. From the same people who were pushing “moderate” Gonzales and saying that there would be no conflicts of interest. LOL!!!
I hope and pray liberals get out woman killer Teddy and babykiller Babs Boxer for this fight. This is a sure loser for red state Dems like Bob “KKK” Byrd and Mary Landrieu. How does it feel knowing the Supreme Court is slipping from your bloody hands? LOL!!!
August 26th, 2005 at 9:15 amWhat do Democrats plan to do if the Court becomes more conservative? How will they force their agenda on the rest of the nation?
August 26th, 2005 at 9:24 amI’m not sure who was saying Gonzales wouldn’t have any conflicts if he was on the Supreme Court, but it wasn’t me.
August 26th, 2005 at 9:32 am#4 - liberal MSM pundits were.
Judd - you have to accept the fact that Bush is probably going to tilt the Court to the right. There is nothing you can do about it. You could always try legislation - oh wait, that’s democracy. No one here understands that concept.
August 26th, 2005 at 9:33 amWow NED, Pretty deranged for so early in the morning.
August 26th, 2005 at 9:47 amMaybe you should switch to decaf?
I accept the fact that Bush is going to appoint conservative judges. But that doesn’t mean I have to keep silent about unethical behavior.
August 26th, 2005 at 9:47 amThe day will come when they are, at last, held accountable.
August 26th, 2005 at 9:49 amafterthought,
August 26th, 2005 at 9:50 amI was thinking the same thing. I think NED had a tough nite.
Seriously NED,
August 26th, 2005 at 9:51 amForget your usual subject-changing rant and explain
why it is okay not to recuse in this case?
Don’t bother calling it nit-picking or suggesting that
some liberal did something worse.
Just explain why it is okay.
WHY IS IT OK?
Roberts took an oath and we have to take him at his word. It’s not really relevant and certainly not fair to say he schilling for the Admin to get a spot on the Court. Besides, Bob Shrum, Harry Reid and several other Democrats said a Gonza appointment would not have conflicts of interest. Nice try guys, but not really.
Should Justice Stevens recuse himself from death penalty cases because of his comments in Chicago?
August 26th, 2005 at 9:58 amJudd - what is unethical about what Roberts did? He was doing his job. He will deal with many cases involving the Bush Admin in the coming months. I think you are being a little disingenous. In all honesty, it’s not relevant.
August 26th, 2005 at 9:59 amWhy is there such outrage over Roberts? He is a conservative judge chosen by a conservative president. You didn’t hear the right scream when Clinton, a liberal president chose Ginsberg, a liberal judge in ‘93? He won the election last year and now Bush has made his choice. The Supreme Court is going to change. Get over it.
August 26th, 2005 at 9:59 amRoberts did not recuse himself because he knew that with the crooked and criminally bent Bush, everything was OK, no matter what he did.
Of course this was a conflict of interest but the idiot known as NED does not understand the concept as he knows nothing of law or government.
All he can do is gloat about how much the country will be hamstrung by a conservative SCOTUS, forgetting of course that he lives in this fucked up country too.
August 26th, 2005 at 9:59 amThe Holloway story is out of control. I couldn’t even watch Hannity for weeks because of it. It’s plain nonsense if you ask me.
Comment by The Northeast Dilemma
August 26th, 2005 at 10:01 amcome on NED, whos your daddy????
i know you like Ann Coulter a lot NED, shes gonna be on my show later this week. i know you’ll be watching.being that shes your favorite author and all.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:02 amRed - you are talking sense here. How dare you?
Liberals are scared to death they might have to actually legislate something. God forbid they use the democratic process, rather than nine unelected judges.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:04 amNED actually admitted to watching my show, and reading the hate speech of Ann Coulter. he is a fellow sheep-like conservative like myself.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:05 amAnn Coulter is not hate speech. She is awesome and hysterical. You are just jealous because MoDo is a has been.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:07 amNED, You did not answer the question.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:08 amAre you capable of just answering a question?
Why was it okay NOT to recuse?
I know it is easier just to smear, but
why not use just a few neurons to think
of a real answer?
On this:
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we agree
August 26th, 2005 at 10:11 ami went to your blog NED, and i noticed your favorite book is by Ann Coulter. i thought you were a sheep for liking me, but Ann too? wow, you are a very good soldier NED. no wonder your sheep-like talking points are always so fresh. i noticed you like pop music too. sweet. .
August 26th, 2005 at 10:11 amwhat kind of pop music do you like NED?
August 26th, 2005 at 10:12 amyou guys want a big laugh? go to NEDs blog spot.its hilarious. http://northeastdilemma.blogspot.com/
August 26th, 2005 at 10:13 amWhy give him the page hits?
August 26th, 2005 at 10:15 amI think we know all we need to know about NED.
I suppose trolling here is supposed to be some
kind of PR campaign, but why help?
i get your point afterthought, but his blog is so goddamn funny, you cant miss it. hes such a sheep, and his favorite book is actually listed as Ann Coulter.im just jealous because he hasnt been watching my show lately.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:18 amThinking people have no need for anything (comments or blogs) related to Northeaster Dimentia.
Anywhoo… I scan to see who posts, then read if necessary…. so I do my own Faux News spin on neDimentia….
Back on target: Robers, Dumbya and the bunch are totally unethical. They spin, lie, force and ram. I expect this whole bunch to do as they please until executed.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:18 amConflicts of this type have never deterred the Republiscums.
Cheney and his Halliburton share-options? No problem. Scalia and his private duckhunting trip with the Veep? No problem. AG Gonzales making decisions on prisoner abuse prosecutions? No problem. Kenneth Blackman overseeing the election in Ohio? No problem.
Roberts was not recusing himself here was probably the loyalty test Bushco needed him to pass.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:18 am[…] (via thinkprogress.org) […]
August 26th, 2005 at 10:22 am#26 - Roberts has done nothing wrong. Republicans are crooks is the liberal way of saying “we lost.” AND you wonder why we sling mud back at you. I dare you people to go ape sh*t over Roberts. Please!! I would love to knock off some red state Dems in 2006.
Whoever smears Roberts, gets smeared. This is NOT 1987 people. We will destroy you and enjoy it.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:27 amNED is a self-hating homosexual like most conservatives. i actually met him at a bathhouse.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:28 amNED,i still cant believe you actually admit to watching my show and reading Ann Coulter, and you still expect to be taken seriously.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:29 amI wouldn’t care much if he were just anti-choice anti-separation of church and state. That’s a general conservative position.
The problem is that he’s anti-voting rights, anti-women’s rights, anti-older Americans, anti-disabilities, anti-access to justice, anti-privacy, pro-unlimited executive power and the list goes on.
Are these really conservative values? I would like to think they are more “uber-fascist” than “conservative”.
http://www.savethecourt.org
August 26th, 2005 at 10:30 amI think any further conservation regarding Roberts here is pointless since he will be confirmed by 70-80 votes. How about coming up with those ideas that will help a democratic candidate take back the White House in ‘08 or more seats next year. I have been watching Think Progress for about three months now and I still have not seen anything but Bush bashing. I guess I don’t have anything to worry about.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:30 amDF - save it. You’re anti-life, anti-business, anti-Christian and an uber-pig.
Roberts is a conservative. Deal with it. If you have a problem with voting rights, why don’t you teach the ignorant base of the Democratic Party how to pull a lever. They have to be breathing though.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:33 amRed - Roberts will be lucky to get 65 votes. Democrats will smear him, I am sure. Thankfully, we can choke them with it in 2006.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:34 amOkay. I know I am more guilty than most,
August 26th, 2005 at 10:38 ambut I think it is time to stop feeding
the trolls.
I know it is fun to tease them, but it
just uses up elctrons, clogs up the dialog
with trash and is generally immature to
stoop to their level.
There are valid disscusions to be had and some
of the conservatives around here add to the discussion,
but by now it is pretty clear who the trolls are so we
should let them look for food elsewhere.
AT - you’re a troll. I’ll leave you guys to sulk. I am busy today.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:41 amWhat do Democrats plan to do if the Court becomes more conservative? How will they force their agenda on the rest of the nation?
Comment by The Northeast Dilemma — August 26, 2005 @ 9:24 am
The same way we do it in Iraq.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:42 ami went to your blog NED, and i noticed your favorite book is by Ann Coulter. i thought you were a sheep for liking me, but Ann too? wow, you are a very good soldier NED. no wonder your sheep-like talking points are always so fresh. i noticed you like pop music too. sweet. . .
August 26th, 2005 at 10:44 amI thought was interesting about trolls.
Link to Wikipedia on internet troll
August 26th, 2005 at 10:51 amyou guys want a big laugh? go to NEDs blog spot.its hilarious. http://northeastdilemma.blogspot.com/
Comment by Sean Hannity — August 26, 2005 @ 10:13 am
It’s not that funny. He’s a sick little fack. I’d like to take a bat to him. Head or knees? Hmmm? Decisions, decisions…both, alternatively.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:51 amYou’re anti-life, anti-business, anti-Christian and an American Superman
Yes we are. You are just a neo-nazi.
August 26th, 2005 at 10:53 ambut Kevorkian, his favorite book(he actually admits this) is by Ann Coulter.if that aint funny, i dont know what is.
August 26th, 2005 at 11:03 am#18 - Ann Coulter not hate speech? “Let’s INVADE their countries, KILL their leaders and convert them to Christianity” Hmm, sounds like Ann would like to terminate peopple just like Terri Schiavo, ned, what do you say. Or maybe like Pat Robertson would do to Hugo Chavez.
August 26th, 2005 at 11:28 amAwww. Who’s sulking? And DeLay is next. They are all going to be on suicide watch and in protective custody soon. Roberts will never be confirmed.
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August 26th, 2005 at 12:05 pmTOLDJA Roberts got the nod because he agreed to rubber stamp the Imperial Presidency.
I’m warning all of you…der Shrubenfueherer will have the unfettered right to incarcerate ANYONE AT ALL without any review by ANYONE.
Good luck.
August 26th, 2005 at 12:25 pmExtra special quotes from NED on this topic:
“Roberts took an oath and we have to take him at his word.”
Explains the fact that you are a zombie.
“He will deal with many cases involving the Bush Admin in the coming months.”
You can say that again.
“Ann Coulter is not hate speech. She is awesome and hysterical.”
You can say that again too.
August 26th, 2005 at 1:11 pmNED,
Oath’s don’t mean a damn thing. In the system that we all live in, it is within the law of the land for the government (in this case Congress) to demand to see documents that help piece together who this person is.
It is RIGHT for both sides to do these things, even if the roles were reversed. The “democrats/liberals” (of which I don’t categorize myself as) represent a large portion of the people in this land. The “republicans/conservatives” (I’m certainly not one of them either) represent another large portion. If someone is being appointed that is on the other side of the coin, those that represent the others MUST stand up and make sure that this person will do a fair job for both sides, and in some cases do everything within the law to stop it. That is part of the checks and balances that were put into place when this country was founded.
Now, does that mean that “smearing,” as you put it is not wrong? Of course not, it is wrong. But what is lawful, yet negative from the point of view of one party, will be categorized as “smear” whether it is or not, just to try and take the wind out of the sails of those doing the investigating, as long as it is self-serving to do so.
Time to grow up NED.
Chomsky writes: “States are not moral agents”
August 26th, 2005 at 1:35 pmI think it is an visual ailment that afflicts people Bush likes to appoint — they are unable to see their ethical flaws.
August 26th, 2005 at 2:11 pm[…] When in doubt, it’s always a good idea to have another conference on blogger ethics. From Think Progress: […]
August 26th, 2005 at 2:16 pmEven if Roberts is not made ineligible because of this obvious conflict, the law states that the White House, through Gonzales, had to notify the plaintiff in Hamdan vs. Bush about the interviews with Roberts. The White House, specifically Gonzales, broke the law. This is indisputable.
August 26th, 2005 at 3:40 pmTerryturtle: Thanks again for the helpful information. Every link in the chain is vital to freeing the American sheeple.
August 26th, 2005 at 6:07 pmThanks for the laugh. Someone said Bush actually had “won” an election!
August 26th, 2005 at 6:21 pmAt least two issues are separable. Bush may be able to appoint Roberts and the court lean more toward the fascist state.
The general behavior of the BushCo has been toward a fascist state. I will not enumerate but such discussions are plentiful. A battle should be fought nevertheless to prevent his appointment.
Those who support BushCo are either misinformed, have a personality disorder, or are simply stupid. There is no intelligent support for fascism.
At least none that I would so regard.
But in the end…
Either the necons will maintain control in the short term and be blindswiped by peak oil and the mammoth social, economic and political consequences.
or….. The ‘Dems’ (also puppets of the Bilderbergers (or equivalents) will gain ‘control’ and be blindswiped by peak oil and the mammoth social, economic and political consequences.
or…. some virus that causes sudden increases in rationality and data-based thinking will occur and the nation will wake up as if from a nightmare and then find the courage to confront the crises looming (peak oil, conflict with other major oil slurpers such as China and India, continuing attrition of soldiers and power in the middle east, starvation at home (remember, fertilizers come from oil/nat. gas, complete and total disruption of the monetary system…, and the list goes on. Any one of which will screw us. And will screw either or both the repubs and dems if they are in the power structure determined responsible.
or yes, the arguments on this list are coherent (not the repub ones, particularly). But all of these pale in terms of what is about to confront us all.
The f-heads in goverment are not addressing the issues that are going to screw You. Don’t be myopic. Look at everything going on.
August 26th, 2005 at 6:44 pmJudd:
The Republican blogs are linking to your post and whining up a storm.
Methinks you should refer them to Profs. Gillers, Luban, and Lubet.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2124603/
They’re apparently a bit behind on their legal ethics. Good thing they’re not judges.
August 26th, 2005 at 6:45 pmOf course Roberts knew he was breaking an ethics rule by interviewing for a position without recusing himself from a case involving the party with whom he was seeking employment. All U.S. Government workers in potentially sensitive positions receive annual ethics training, and the topic about seeking employment is covered in the training each time it is presented. Even low-level civil servants are required to notify their supervisors when they are as much as approached about possible employment by parties their agency might do business with.
August 26th, 2005 at 11:23 pmConservative dishonesty rears its usual head.
It is judges like Scalia, Thomas, Rehnquist, Kennedy, and O’Connor who have sought to impose their RW agenda on Americans despite states and Congress passing laws to the contrary. (environmental protections, anti-trust laws, family and medical leave, Violence against women’s act, etc………… )
FAct: The two judges who have the highest % of votes to overturn an act of Congress are Scalia and Thomas. Rehnquist is third.
Judicial Activism????? Constitution haters? Conservatives???? All the same.
August 27th, 2005 at 12:36 amit is digusting that a crooked president who won 2 crooked elections gets to choose the 9 men who get to misinterpret the law for pure political agenda.and speaking of morality by your first nut job conservative writer how many innocent people have died in iraq so we can steal their oil,also 50,ooo people a year die from lack of health insurance,plus bush has let several dangerous drugs on the market that has killed hundreds.the road to hell is paved with conservatives
August 27th, 2005 at 12:02 pmTo the Northeast Dilemma. Repbublicans control all branches of government but you still whine. What’s the problem?
August 27th, 2005 at 12:23 pmNED is retarded.
August 27th, 2005 at 12:39 pmNED is a spambot operating from Jalalabad. Not even real, according to Rush Limbaugh. Just a Java subroutine operated by offshore programmers to repeat messages over, and over, and over, and over, again.
August 28th, 2005 at 1:09 am[…] More amazing than Roberts’ not recusing himself is the fact that the mainstream media, including the Washington Post, have downplayed this story. There was limited coverage of the story in the Blogosphere (It’s In There; Quiet Flows the Don; Think Progress; Thus Blogged Anderson) as well as on some news media sites (Slate). […]
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