“Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city. From ‘Girls Gone Wild’ to ‘Southern Decadence’, New Orleans was a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. May it never be the same.”
It was only a matter of time. The F***ing Fundamental Fanatics are using a tragedy to interpret their twisted view of the works of their God.
August 31st, 2005 at 6:32 pmThese christo-facist pigs need to be run out of town. These are the same types of people that were run out of England and came to America as pilgrams.
They are the same people that commit hate crimes against gays. They are the same type that blow up abortion clinics.
And they are the same type that call for the assassination of elected government officials in sovriegn countries.
August 31st, 2005 at 6:34 pmCan’t wait to go back to NOLA, eat myself gluttonous, drink myself biblious and have a sinnin’ good time!
August 31st, 2005 at 6:40 pmIdiots like these are the reason why many people around the world will be happy to NOT help us out.
I know what it means to miss New Orleans… hope it gets back to its partying normal self soon.
You mean the hurricane wasn’t punishment against those three red states for voting for the Boy Emperor Clown ?
August 31st, 2005 at 6:48 pm.
After waiting for an hour, (for Pat Roberts to finish) I talked to God. He agreed…IMPEACH BUSH
August 31st, 2005 at 6:58 pmSpudge-boy, fyi the Puritans were considered liberal when they lived in England before they headed off to murka. The rejected the Papacy and the Church of England, they didn’t need no stinking pope or the king of England for any of their blessings. They suffered because of their ability to survive without some organized religion telling them how to do things.
In what city or farmyard any place on earth that is absent of sin? Name one.
It isn’t the sins of the US gov that this blowback from nature has hammered New Orleans. The US gov bombs Iraq into the stone age, but somehow the US goes unscathed? I don’t think so. Paybacks are a bitch, no matter how they are collected.
I doubt that God has anything to do with it. He ain’t blessing America today, that’s for sure.
August 31st, 2005 at 7:02 pmRight Wing Christians Blame Katrina On Gays
Repent America says New Orleans was a “wicked city”……
August 31st, 2005 at 7:04 pmWell gollll leeeee. From the helicopter shots and such, it sure looked like their god took out their churches too. Why did he do that? Were the parishoners who were also members of Repent America doing bad things on the side, so their god guy had to punish all of the innocents too????
August 31st, 2005 at 7:05 pmDamn, there goes Las Vegas!
The good news is that what happens there stays there so California and Arizona don;t have to worry.
August 31st, 2005 at 7:19 pmOh yeah, God tried to knock out three red states, bringing devestation upon them for their voting for the heathen Shrub.
I am convinced of that by the way. He He He, I love it.
August 31st, 2005 at 7:24 pm#6
“Spudge-boy, fyi the Puritans were considered liberal when they lived in England before they headed off to murka.”
That is a common misconception. The puritans were driven from England.
Also, I did not say that the puritans were liberal or conservative. Doesn’t matter. They were the people that hung women saying they were witches. Much like the what Repent America is doing.
“The sky is falling and the gays are to blame for it.”
August 31st, 2005 at 7:44 pmI believe God was angry that a warm water system in the ocean was living in sin with a low pressure area in the atmosphere.
August 31st, 2005 at 7:57 pmHey Spudge – all of our ancestors came from another country – and those that came from England, did so to get away from The Church and the Kingdom that was telling them how to live and would kill them just because – Hey – it was “their” day…
With your comment here, well, you kinda sound like the lovely (NOT) people that wrote the article!!!!
August 31st, 2005 at 8:16 pmIn these times of American hyper-partisanship, even the response to an act of God like hurricane Katrina is revealing.
The disaster, which devastated the extremely red states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, brought no snide claims of “divine retribution” from the voices of the left. No one declared that a just God wrought vengeance upon the South for its sins of slavery, succession, civil war, Jim Crow or more recently, its coronation of George W. Bush. Instead, the liberal blogosphere, led by sites like DailyKos, urged readers to come to the aid of their fellow Americans, providing news updates, offers of shelter for refugees and support for the Red Cross.
Contrast that reaction to the compassionate conservative response of the radical right to acts of God – and man. Time and after time, the mouthpieces of the American Taliban that now have the ear of the President and the wallet of the Republican Party praised the wrath of an angry God that smited their enemies for a laundry list of sins and perversions…
For the full story, see:
“Hurricanes, Divine Retribution and the Right.”
August 31st, 2005 at 8:17 pmCorrect me if I’m wrong here, but I’m starting to think that Pat Robertson really is a religious fanatic.
August 31st, 2005 at 8:30 pmI mean, they must be doing this on purpose, from their banner: “foulest ingratitude to a Being of infinite benevolence.”
Infinite Benevolence?! LOL! Would that be “In a display of infinite benevolence, He slayed thousands of innocent children”?
Then this, LMFAO!!, from ‘Are you good enough to go to Heaven?’ it is explained thus:
“This means that we shouldn’t make a god to suit ourselves, either with our hands or our mind. I was guilty of this. I made a god to suit myself. My god didn’t mind a ‘white’ lie or a fib here and there — in fact, he didn’t have any moral dictates. But in truth my god didn’t exist. He was a figment of my imagination, an ‘image’ which I shaped to suit myself. ”
Oh, yeah! Bush – “We are doing Gods work” – ‘a figment of my imagination, an ‘image’ which I shaped to suit myself’ (BTW, taking it upon yourself to speak for God is what Taking His name in vain means)
I wonder what the world record is for quickest contradiction of yourself?
August 31st, 2005 at 8:34 pmIf Katrina hit Texas I might buy into the nonsense.
By the way, the majority of this disaster comes from the levy in New Orleans breaking. Katrina caused the wind and rain but it was ultimately the broken (underfunded) levy that caused the majority of the damage and deaths.
Mississippi can rebuild with wood, nails and hammers. New Orleans is lost forever.
August 31st, 2005 at 9:20 pmsusan – the 17th street canal was not underfunded, there are several other levee projects that are / were underfunded, but the 17th street canal project kept its funding, was currently being worked on, and was scheduled for complete at the end of the summer of 2005.
August 31st, 2005 at 9:33 pmoh yeah, back to the subject…what an idiot. that is what is wrong with religion, something goes on and both the fanatical christians, muslims, etc. etc. grab onto it.
August 31st, 2005 at 9:33 pmThe disaster, which devastated the extremely red states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, brought no snide claims of “divine retribution†from the voices of the left. No one declared that a just God wrought vengeance upon the South for its…its coronation of George W. Bush.
Actually Jon, if you look above…#4 and #10
August 31st, 2005 at 9:45 pmPersonally, I wish people could just dump politics entirely with tragedies like this, but that is definitely naive optimism.
Re #18, thats not a problem with religion, thats a problem with humanity. People become extremists in regards to nearly everything and end up causing nothing but problems for themselves and those around them.
August 31st, 2005 at 9:47 pm3rdman, the enormous cost and loss of life from this disaster could have been prevented. Like 9-11 Bushie knew. He knew the levy would break and he cut the funding to shore it up. This is more blood on Bushies hands and if that doesn’t bother you than you’ve got real mental problems.
August 31st, 2005 at 9:56 pmHungry people are getting upset. Wonderin’ where National Guard is…
August 31st, 2005 at 10:42 pmI hesitated to say this but I find it to be true after some thought.
August 31st, 2005 at 11:04 pmI don’t think that someone who believes God would punish gay people with death of the innocent can be saddened by anything. I think these people are dead souls. I rank them with pedaphiles and serial killers. It truly is pathological hatred posing as morality.
Bushie just called off the search and rescue mission in New Orleans so police can go after the looters. Yeah, thats it, forget the stranded and trapped and go after the purse snatcher who has no home to go to.
Of course, the looting is being used to deflect attention to the fact that Bushie killed the people of New Orleans.
August 31st, 2005 at 11:04 pmThey are just like Bushie Brian who called off the search and rescue mission to chase looters. Of course we know that this is to deflect attention from the fact that Bushie is responsible for the dead in New Orleans.
August 31st, 2005 at 11:06 pmHow does the Left respond to natural disasters impacting millions of their fellow citizens? With donations, support and prayers.
The Right, on the other hand…
August 31st, 2005 at 11:46 pmPut ‘em all on a bridge and yell “Bomb!”
September 1st, 2005 at 12:28 am#13
Emma,
Let’s see, I am specifically talking about religious whackos that think that God punishes whole cities of people because some people want to throw a parade/party. People that force their religious beliefs down other peoples throats. People that torture and kill people in the name of God, as in extremist christians and muslims.
I don’t go around telling people what they should and should not believe. I don’t tell people what to do or what to say.
I am nothing like these people. There is no comparison. Good try, but you are barking up the wrong tree here.
September 1st, 2005 at 12:47 amThink about who we are talking about.
Fundamentalist Christians who believe the Bible is the literal Word of God. Infallible and inflexible where they see fit.
The destruction of New Orleans is no less than the modern day reenactment of Sodom and Gomorrah, the Great Flood, the threatened destruction of Ninevah…the actions of a vengeful, angry God who did not hesitate to tell His chosen people to bleed out and kill his enemies. Biloxi? Den of iniquity, with all that gamblin’. New Orleans? Sin city, brothers and sisters.
There is not an ounce of Christ’s compassion, not a moment of “love your neighbor as yourself,” not a single thought of not proclaiming from the highest mountain “THIS IS GOD’S WRATH!”
The God I know doesn’t kill children because he’s angry. If they thought about it for a moment, could they reflect on this: the God they worship killed innocents and sinners alike in a indicriminate wave AFTER He told us all He would never do it again.
God has little to do with this. Self centered, self righteous name calling and cruelty…now that’s more like it.
Make your donations to the Red Cross, everyone.
September 1st, 2005 at 12:54 amWell, if any of these “Christians” believed in what they call themselves, they would see how wrong they really are.
You see, I was raised Christian (I have read the Holy bible from fron to back cover) and these people make me sick. The God rainy fire and flooding the Earth and stuff is the Old Testament. The stroy goes like this “When Jesus came to Earth, he died for our sins. He died for the sins of our fathers and our sons.” Meaning, we would never be flooded, have our rivers turned to blood, have it rain frog, etc. That is what the New Testament is about.
So, when these people say that god is “Punishing these people” they are going against the word of god, also known as Jesus, The Son of God. Those to plus the Holy Ghost make up the Holy Trinity. The Holy Trinity is equal on all sides. They all have the same power. AKA, Jesus is the embodiment of god. Meaning, if Jesus said there wouldn’t be anymore “Acts of God” if you will.
THEN JESUS/GOD/THE HOLY GHOST WOULDN”T DO THIS SHIT.
September 1st, 2005 at 1:03 amSicko Christianity at its best.
Jesus is highly overrated in my bedroom. ;-)
September 1st, 2005 at 8:05 amSpudge-boy, fyi the Puritans were considered liberal when they lived in England before they headed off to murka.
Puritans were never considered “liberal” by any standard. “Liberals” and “liberalism” are two words thrown around by people that have no idea of their meaning or origins. American liberalism is distinct from liberalism in other countries and the term as used in the current geo-political context.
Hey Spudge – all of our ancestors came from another country – and those that came from England, did so to get away from The Church and the Kingdom that was telling them how to live and would kill them just because – Hey – it was “their†day…
Typical history book fairy tale. Many of “our ancestors” were sent here as indentured servants. Some came for other reasons, and Protestants came to escape religious persecution. Before there were many black slaves here, the majority of slaves were white. By virtue of their skin color, they were not called slaves, but it was a distinction with not much of a difference. I am not a WN, btw. I don’t think black people had it good as slaves any more than I think they have it so great today. There are people who think that they were better off as slaves. Fundamentalist, natonalist and other protfascist movements are dangerous. That is the paradox of freedom in a non-totalitarian state. You can’t line the greatest threat to your freedom up against a wall and shoot them without becoming just like them. To paraphrase chimpy, it would be easier if you could, as long as we were the ones doing the shooting.
September 1st, 2005 at 8:07 amI’m starting to get the idea that the Katrina disaster really isn’t Clinton’s fault, no matter what Hannity says.
September 1st, 2005 at 9:18 amdoes this really surprise anybody? religion ALWAYS leads to death.remember when JFK had to assure everyone he was going to leave his religion at the door when being president?the government was so much more effective when politicians didnt cater to the relgious right.
September 1st, 2005 at 9:19 amThe American taliban twist and pervert the word of their God ( ignoring that their very religion “Christian” is based upon the teachings of Christ). The self-righteous are so “perfect” in their love of God — they are indeed, the Pharisees of today. Full of false piety, sanctimonious and smug, they are a disgusting, repulsive, hateful lot.
September 1st, 2005 at 9:45 amBUSH on the looters: “I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this.”
Those looters should be thrown in jail, for trying to steal bread and water from the well-insured grocery stores! Forget the rescue operation, let’s kill the looters! Thou shalt not steal, he hath spoketh.
September 1st, 2005 at 9:51 amThis disaster is Bush and this admins fault. No one can prevent a hurricane but tax breaks for the rich during wartime and corporate welfare lead to weaseling by weasels:
http://echidneofthesnakes.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_echidneofthesnakes_archive.html#112557635057638481
This morning, about 7:05 am Eastern time, George Bush was interviewed by Diane Sawyers on ABC’s Good Morning America. This is what he said:
“I don’t think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees.”
Mm. Here is a quote from an article originally published on June 8, 2004 in the Times-Picayune:
For the first time in 37 years, federal budget cuts have all but stopped major work on the New Orleans area’s east bank hurricane levees, a complex network of concrete walls, metal gates and giant earthen berms that won’t be finished for at least another decade.
“I guess people look around and think there’s a complete system in place, that we’re just out here trying to put icing on the cake,” said Mervin Morehiser, who manages the “Lake Pontchartrain and vicinity” levee project for the Army Corps of Engineers. “And we aren’t saying that the sky is falling, but people should know that this is a work in progress, and there’s more important work yet to do before there is a complete system in place.”
…
“I can’t tell you exactly what that could mean this hurricane season if we get a major storm,” Naomi said. “It would depend on the path and speed of the storm, the angle that it hits us.
“But I can tell you that we would be better off if the levees were raised, . . . and I think it’s important and only fair that those people who live behind the levee know the status of these projects.”
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The Bush administration’s proposed fiscal 2005 budget includes only $3.9 million for the east bank hurricane project. Congress likely will increase that amount, although last year it bumped up the administration’s $3 million proposal only to $5.5 million.
“I needed $11 million this year, and I got $5.5 million,” Naomi said. “I need $22.5 million next year to do everything that needs doing, and the first $4.5 million of that will go to pay four contractors who couldn’t get paid this year.”
And here is an excerpt from May of this year:
In the event of a slow-moving Category 4 or Category 5 hurricane (with winds up to or exceeding 155 miles per hour), it’s possible that only those crow’s nests would remain above the water level. Such a storm, plowing over the lake, could generate a 20-foot surge that would easily overwhelm the levees of New Orleans, which only protect against a hybrid Category 2 or Category 3 storm (with winds up to about 110 miles per hour and a storm surge up to 12 feet). Soon the geographical “bowl” of the Crescent City would fill up with the waters of the lake, leaving those unable to evacuate with little option but to cluster on rooftops — terrain they would have to share with hungry rats, fire ants, nutria, snakes, and perhaps alligators. The water itself would become a festering stew of sewage, gasoline, refinery chemicals, and debris.
I guess it all depends on what one means by “nobody” and “breach” and so on.
September 1st, 2005 at 9:53 amNY Times editorial… well written.
“George W Bush gave one of the worst speeches of his life yesterday. He advised the public that anybody who wanted to help should send cash, grinned, and promised that everything would work out in the end. And nothing about the president’s demeanour yesterday – which seemed casual to the point of carelessness – suggested that he understood the depth of the current crisis.”
September 1st, 2005 at 9:53 amPapers across the Nation blast Bush :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4204292.stm
September 1st, 2005 at 9:55 amSame kind of foresight and planning that went into the Op in Iraq. It’s time to fire that incompetent little trwirp and his whole crew of incompetent hogs at the trough.
September 1st, 2005 at 9:57 amThe Puritans survived anyway they knew how back in the late fourteen hundreds. They shunned polite English society and lived in the hinterlands. They knew back then that the ‘wealth’ that the gentrified English enjoyed was from the backs of slaves in the British West Indies.
An Englishman could migrate there, work slaves for a few years chopping sugarcane and return rich. Puritans wanted no part of it and left England over to The Netherlands, America etc.
The latter-day beast that descended from the original population were to blame for persecuting and torturing Quakers, hanging witches and punishing ’sinners’ with dunking poles and stockades.
lib·er·al Pronunciation Key (lbr-l, lbrl)
adj.
1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
Don’t get bogged down by dogma. Berating and belittling George Bush with reckless abandon accomplishes nothing. It is a hideous display of liberal bigotry.
New Orleans is a grim place today. So is Baghdad. That’s what you get when a ego-inflated government wants to become an empire. Everybody suffers. It must stop.
Shots have been fired at a Chinook helicopter in New Orleans, too. Some folks in New Orleans aren’t happy with the US government either. No need to wonder ‘why.’
September 1st, 2005 at 9:57 am“I’m hope this tragedy will show evryone why it is so important to stay the course in Iraq.”
September 1st, 2005 at 9:58 amYeah Darth, and then he quicky switched gears and said he now “wanted to talk about immigration.” I would call him a complete dip-shit here but I’m afraid I would end up on the IRS list to be audited.
September 1st, 2005 at 9:59 amI’m going to need your Social Security or Tax Identification Number, Mr. Sixpack.
September 1st, 2005 at 10:02 amBible dummies strike again!!! I just have no regard for people who can’t crap unless the bible tells them it’s time. Nothing more aggravating then a person whose only “education” in life is derived from their warped interpretation of a book they can’t even understand.
September 1st, 2005 at 10:08 amNew Orleans is America’s Baghdad.
September 1st, 2005 at 10:14 amRFK jr also tried to exploit the tragedy and blame it on Haley Barbour. He must be shooting up again.
The whole global warming caused Katrina is such a pack of LIES. For a bunch of “scientists”, liberals have no problem propogating lies about the environment to suit their radical left wing agenda.
September 1st, 2005 at 10:49 amNED: We can atleast agree that the “blamers? are out of control.. RFK Jr. and the Ray Phelps, Michele Malkins (Hollywood isn’t doing enough) of the world will be given a special place in hell. The Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43 Administrations probably could have done more to protect NO from the flooding but all of that is secondary at this point.
People are tired, hungry and without medical help, period!
September 1st, 2005 at 11:06 amWell, I have to agree that we the human race are doomed. 9/11, the war in Iraq, the tsunami in Asia last year, the London bombings, and now Hurricane Katrina. And no, it’s not because of the gays, or because New Orleans was a “sinful city”. If that were the case, Vegas would have been levelled years ago.
God is pissed. But not at those who want to live & party & enjoy life. He’s pissed off at all the HATE-MONGERS who start wars and use His name as an excuse to KILL. And now we must pay.
THE END IS NEAR. It’s been nice knowing you all.
September 1st, 2005 at 11:52 amRick – take that prozac and it will make it all better. The only end that is near is the end of liberalism as we know it.
September 1st, 2005 at 11:54 amGood old Fred Phelps and his gang have jumped on this bandwagon over at godhatesfags.com — it was only a matter of time. Whack jobs.
September 1st, 2005 at 11:55 amNortheasternDumbwad,
You’re correct, the ‘liberalism as we know it’ is over. Liberals no longer are willing to stand idly by and allow fascist propagandists like yourself lie and call it truth, and hate and call it love.
Global warming not only is real, so much so that even Bush last month acknowledged it (I guess you didn’t catch that listening to the mentally retarded right wing propagandists).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2023835.stm
Try reading some real news for a change, and get out of the house. Although I presume you’re too morbidly obese from eating your own crap to actually do this. At least go to a real news site occassionally – your obviously resulting clinical insanity from having to so fiercely defend your delusions is looking worse daily…
September 1st, 2005 at 12:53 pmNED, I suggest you take some of that Prozac you so liberally recommend.
September 1st, 2005 at 1:07 pmSeeing this news today, I went to the Repent America site, clicked on “Christians Enter Here” and sent them an email. I said I was concerned. “When the tsunami hit Indonesia, we saw video of decimated landscapes where only the mosque survived. Over and over, the mosques survived. Then I saw footage of Mississippi and New Orleans, and in every video I noticed that all the churches were totally destroyed. Right down to the ground. You don’t think it’s possible that Jesus hates Christians, do you? Please contact me. I’m so disturbed about this.”
September 1st, 2005 at 4:50 pmtheir god must be either a sloppy shot or unjustly indifferent to “friendly fire” losses…
September 2nd, 2005 at 5:14 pmIt seems that the redder and more anti-gay marriage amending, fundamentalist, and taliban-like states get devastated far more by hurricanes, tornados, flooding while we up here in Boston are enjoying a beautiful summer; Why does Jesus hate you so-called “christians”? Answer: because you don’t follow the teachings of Jesus but prefer the rigid, evil, and arcaic teachings of your old-testament, the book Jesus came to overturn.
September 3rd, 2005 at 8:57 amIn response to everyone who is Anti-Christian and Anti-God. I must speak truth to you all. The bible which is the very words of God himself says that He is the same yesterday today and forever. I believe that the bible is the only full truth that exists in this world. So seeing as I believe this then let me tell you what God did before to a city that was full of public sin. Some of you know it as Sodom and Gomorrah. Now what do we know the word sodom to mean. This city was named for the very sins that it was destroyed for. Gomorrah was a sister city close in proxcimity and equally as sinful. God destroyed that city with fire and brimstone as well. Burning them all male and female children and all animals. He purged the land through fire. This is not the first or last account of God purgeing the land of sin. Remember the flood. All were wiped out.This is just one of many times sin filled up its cup in a city or nation and God destroyed it either himself or sent other nations against it.Just like he is sending us against Iraq. Stop blameing Bush he is doing right. Now I read a post that said that God did not do it or he would not have destroyed his own churches and preachers. Oh but think again. He many times sent other nations against his beloved Israel and destroyed them for their sins and he had many who served and kept his commandments. Jeremiah was a prophet who spoke of comming judgment none listend. He was carried away into captivity along with the others. You see God cared for him but he went through the judgement along with all the others. But God kept him.The bible has promises for those that truely belong to the Lord one of them is When the fire comes you will not be burned, when the floods come you will not drown. You see God takes care of His own. I read in the news of a 105 year old woman who was trapped in an attic for 2 days then was stranded on a road island where water surrounded her and she was trapped then she was stuck in the super dome where many died. She lived and gives glory to God for keeping her safe. She went through the judgment but the judgement did not destroy her. God will care for his own. And He did. But he purged the land.Wake up and see that what happened is the act of God.
September 4th, 2005 at 12:39 amTo the “Thumpers”–My Irish Catholic grand-mother replied to her Methodist neighbor who said that, “The Catholics don’t know the Bible”
September 4th, 2005 at 3:17 pmMa’s reply, “Charity, even the devil can quote the Bible.”
Looks like the devil has lots of help among the Religous Right
…and BTW the same Puritains (they were pilgrims) went on quite a witch hunt themselves in Salem, MA
An argument is being made that the global warming based prediction that storms would increase in intensity is false because the National Hurricane Center’s records show a reduction in storms.
I checked the National Hurricane Center’s web site (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/, in particular, http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/deadly/index.html) and found that there has indeed been a decrease… in the number of Atlantic cyclones THAT HAVE ACTUALLY ACHIEVED LANDFALL.
That key phrase is omitted from the popular argument. The upshot is that while there have been fewer storms that have struck the US, nothing can be concluded regarding any changes (relative to the time period pre-1960 when there were no weather satellites) in total numbers or even ferocity. Maybe there were fewer storms, maybe there were more. Maybe they were weaker, maybe they were nastier. Frankly, nobody knows.
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