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		<title>By: Ken Dryden&#62;&#62;Yoga for health</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Dryden&#62;&#62;Yoga for health</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iâ€™ve taken a quick look at your postings, which are very interesting. Lots of material and ideas! Congrats on being so focused!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™ve taken a quick look at your postings, which are very interesting. Lots of material and ideas! Congrats on being so focused!</p>
<p>The advice given in your blog is fantastic and very complimentary to my site, check it out <a href="http://rbfocus.com" rel="nofollow">http://rbfocus.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1244558', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BUSH WASNâ€™T SUPPOSE TO WN THE ELECTION EITHER. THE ELDERLY PEOPLE IN FLORIDA WAS DRUG UP AND THE PEOPLE TOLD THEM TO VOTE FOR BUSH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUSH WASNâ€™T SUPPOSE TO WN THE ELECTION EITHER. THE ELDERLY PEOPLE IN FLORIDA WAS DRUG UP AND THE PEOPLE TOLD THEM TO VOTE FOR BUSH<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1157880', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Nilitos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nilitos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œNonsense Nilitos, thatâ€™s pure unadulterated and unsupportable Marxist BS. But it does make the natives feel better about themselves.â€

Not to sound derisive, but does the phrase â€œJane, you ignorant slutâ€ ring a bell?

This grab bag of alliterative terms youâ€™ve used sounds as if youâ€™re reciting an ad campaign for any one of a number of products that simply canâ€™t hold itâ€™s own weight in water without a constant mind washing of mistruth set to a gratuitous jingle.  Your choice of words describes the arrogant contempt of a prejudicial mind indigenous to a class of &quot;native&quot; bashers.

You live in a world that still believes a Twinkie is a wholesome snack.  A world where you brand palatable labels to your existence that magically transmigrates a bloody piece of flesh into a juicy piece of meat.  You are quite smug in your cocoon having achieved the anonymity of being self knighted into the world of average notions.  And one day youâ€™ll come to the realization that average cholesterol levels hold absolutely no truth other than predisposing you to a greater than 50% chance of death by heart disease.  
Such is the useless lament of those laid bare by equal footing.

The shame is, you are blind to the suffering of others only until you suffer in-kind.  You condemn Marxism because your Capitalist bank account is flush.  The truth is, no one can take the personal element out of any system, be it Marxism or Capitalism.  The nature of average humanitarianism is that you will leverage any system to your advantage if given the opportunity, regardless of the cost to others.  Especially one that glorifies it.  You no sooner leave the church parking lot, having â€œgone in peaceâ€, before youâ€™re back to asserting your license by cutting people off with your SUV.  

Okay, thatâ€™s how I view you.

Now letâ€™s see how you view me.

A few years back I was part owner of a townhouse in Tempe, AZ, that was left to me and my siblings as an inheritance.  The property was not what you would call a money making rental, by any stretch of the imagination, but it held a sentimental value that exceeded any fiscal rationale.  One day, during the changeover from one lease to another (an eight day gap), my real estate agent called to inform me that Wells Fargo had seized the property.  They had pulled up the rental sign, plastered large red impound stickers on all the windows, forced entry into the townhouse by breaking down the front door, changed the locks, and posted warnings all over the property stating that by order of law, the property was impounded, and that any entry would result in prosecution.  This had the affect of pouring poison over an already marginal rental unit.  Yet, no foreclosure proceedings were in effect as the mortgage was in good standing.

I contacted the local police, the AZ Banking Commission, the AZ Real Estate Commission, the AZ Attorney General, and finally, by suggestion of the latter, the Federal Comptroller in Houston.  Each agency had two things to say, â€œitâ€™s not our jurisdiction, and have you tried contacting a lawyer.â€  Every lawyer then afforded me the truth about our system.  Apparently I was in a real â€œfixâ€ since this was Wells Fargo, you know, the big guns.  It would take at least a $10,000 retainer to initiate any legal remedy.

Somehow, I had stumbled into a gapping hole that defied all previous notions about the strength and beauty of our system.  I had broken no laws and yet the forces against me were systematically stacked in support of a lawless seizure of my property.

Wells Fargo finally admitted to me that the break-in was done by a contractor of theirs that was only trying to protect the bankâ€™s investment.  They seized the townhouse fearing that it had been abandoned and would be ransacked.  Yet this somehow applied only to my townhouse, one of more than 200, of which some 80% percent were also managed by absentee ownership, mine included.  This was a stable housing development in good repair with a solid management association.  Indeed, anyone familiar with Tempe, AZ knows there is no such thing as a bad real estate demographic within its borders.

Now for the ugly truth.  Wells Fargo had targeted my property knowing it was a rental property and that my name has a Latin ring to it.  They were well aware of the gapping hole that afforded them a likely upside with virtually no risk or exposure.  If they could put additional economic pressure on me then perhaps the property would collapse into foreclosure.  After all, what was to stop them from this kind of real estate speculation?  Certainly not the police, the Banking Commission, the Real Estate Commission, the AZ Attorney General, nor the Federal Comptroller.  Simply put, itâ€™s what now passes in this country for good business practices.  What separates us is I have had my taste of it and apparently you have not.  But this is just one example of the many that I have personally been subjected to, and the untold millions that are perpetrated every year against a broad class of, well you know, those pesky natives.

Ultimately I was lucky to recover the property, although the expense was borne entirely by me.  I was not reimbursed a single nickel for the damage to the unit or the loss of rental income.  Indeed, not even a half-hearted apology was received.  It was a classic gang bang attempt.  Without shame or conscience, it was every bit as nauseating as hunting buffalo in the old west.  Others are not so fortunate.  Once legal remedy is removed from the people they are merely machine milked animals slated for an eventual harvest.  Open and unmitigated access to the law is what truly defines the line separating the classes in this country.  Where are your eyes when the statistics are published each year showing a humiliating and indictable disparity between that which is given as sentence for the same crime to perpetrators on opposite sides of this line?

And yet you use words like â€œunadulteratedâ€ and â€œunsupportable.â€  Such shallowness is inevitable from a monkey that sees no evil, hears no evil, and speaks no evil, especially one that is conveniently kept fat off the nuts stolen from others.  You have classic symptoms of heart disease, both physically and spiritually, and yet you donâ€™t know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œNonsense Nilitos, thatâ€™s pure unadulterated and unsupportable Marxist BS. But it does make the natives feel better about themselves.â€</p>
<p>Not to sound derisive, but does the phrase â€œJane, you ignorant slutâ€ ring a bell?</p>
<p>This grab bag of alliterative terms youâ€™ve used sounds as if youâ€™re reciting an ad campaign for any one of a number of products that simply canâ€™t hold itâ€™s own weight in water without a constant mind washing of mistruth set to a gratuitous jingle.  Your choice of words describes the arrogant contempt of a prejudicial mind indigenous to a class of &#8220;native&#8221; bashers.</p>
<p>You live in a world that still believes a Twinkie is a wholesome snack.  A world where you brand palatable labels to your existence that magically transmigrates a bloody piece of flesh into a juicy piece of meat.  You are quite smug in your cocoon having achieved the anonymity of being self knighted into the world of average notions.  And one day youâ€™ll come to the realization that average cholesterol levels hold absolutely no truth other than predisposing you to a greater than 50% chance of death by heart disease.<br />
Such is the useless lament of those laid bare by equal footing.</p>
<p>The shame is, you are blind to the suffering of others only until you suffer in-kind.  You condemn Marxism because your Capitalist bank account is flush.  The truth is, no one can take the personal element out of any system, be it Marxism or Capitalism.  The nature of average humanitarianism is that you will leverage any system to your advantage if given the opportunity, regardless of the cost to others.  Especially one that glorifies it.  You no sooner leave the church parking lot, having â€œgone in peaceâ€, before youâ€™re back to asserting your license by cutting people off with your SUV.  </p>
<p>Okay, thatâ€™s how I view you.</p>
<p>Now letâ€™s see how you view me.</p>
<p>A few years back I was part owner of a townhouse in Tempe, AZ, that was left to me and my siblings as an inheritance.  The property was not what you would call a money making rental, by any stretch of the imagination, but it held a sentimental value that exceeded any fiscal rationale.  One day, during the changeover from one lease to another (an eight day gap), my real estate agent called to inform me that Wells Fargo had seized the property.  They had pulled up the rental sign, plastered large red impound stickers on all the windows, forced entry into the townhouse by breaking down the front door, changed the locks, and posted warnings all over the property stating that by order of law, the property was impounded, and that any entry would result in prosecution.  This had the affect of pouring poison over an already marginal rental unit.  Yet, no foreclosure proceedings were in effect as the mortgage was in good standing.</p>
<p>I contacted the local police, the AZ Banking Commission, the AZ Real Estate Commission, the AZ Attorney General, and finally, by suggestion of the latter, the Federal Comptroller in Houston.  Each agency had two things to say, â€œitâ€™s not our jurisdiction, and have you tried contacting a lawyer.â€  Every lawyer then afforded me the truth about our system.  Apparently I was in a real â€œfixâ€ since this was Wells Fargo, you know, the big guns.  It would take at least a $10,000 retainer to initiate any legal remedy.</p>
<p>Somehow, I had stumbled into a gapping hole that defied all previous notions about the strength and beauty of our system.  I had broken no laws and yet the forces against me were systematically stacked in support of a lawless seizure of my property.</p>
<p>Wells Fargo finally admitted to me that the break-in was done by a contractor of theirs that was only trying to protect the bankâ€™s investment.  They seized the townhouse fearing that it had been abandoned and would be ransacked.  Yet this somehow applied only to my townhouse, one of more than 200, of which some 80% percent were also managed by absentee ownership, mine included.  This was a stable housing development in good repair with a solid management association.  Indeed, anyone familiar with Tempe, AZ knows there is no such thing as a bad real estate demographic within its borders.</p>
<p>Now for the ugly truth.  Wells Fargo had targeted my property knowing it was a rental property and that my name has a Latin ring to it.  They were well aware of the gapping hole that afforded them a likely upside with virtually no risk or exposure.  If they could put additional economic pressure on me then perhaps the property would collapse into foreclosure.  After all, what was to stop them from this kind of real estate speculation?  Certainly not the police, the Banking Commission, the Real Estate Commission, the AZ Attorney General, nor the Federal Comptroller.  Simply put, itâ€™s what now passes in this country for good business practices.  What separates us is I have had my taste of it and apparently you have not.  But this is just one example of the many that I have personally been subjected to, and the untold millions that are perpetrated every year against a broad class of, well you know, those pesky natives.</p>
<p>Ultimately I was lucky to recover the property, although the expense was borne entirely by me.  I was not reimbursed a single nickel for the damage to the unit or the loss of rental income.  Indeed, not even a half-hearted apology was received.  It was a classic gang bang attempt.  Without shame or conscience, it was every bit as nauseating as hunting buffalo in the old west.  Others are not so fortunate.  Once legal remedy is removed from the people they are merely machine milked animals slated for an eventual harvest.  Open and unmitigated access to the law is what truly defines the line separating the classes in this country.  Where are your eyes when the statistics are published each year showing a humiliating and indictable disparity between that which is given as sentence for the same crime to perpetrators on opposite sides of this line?</p>
<p>And yet you use words like â€œunadulteratedâ€ and â€œunsupportable.â€  Such shallowness is inevitable from a monkey that sees no evil, hears no evil, and speaks no evil, especially one that is conveniently kept fat off the nuts stolen from others.  You have classic symptoms of heart disease, both physically and spiritually, and yet you donâ€™t know it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=133231', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Nunes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Nunes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mean to sound ugly, but Michelle Malkin will do or say anything to please a Neo-Con.  She appears on Fox News often and I am willing to bet if she applies for an anchor job at FNC, the human resource staff will roll over laughing.  Of course, if she promise to die her hair blond and mimic Ann Coulter, it&#039;s prime time for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to sound ugly, but Michelle Malkin will do or say anything to please a Neo-Con.  She appears on Fox News often and I am willing to bet if she applies for an anchor job at FNC, the human resource staff will roll over laughing.  Of course, if she promise to die her hair blond and mimic Ann Coulter, it&#8217;s prime time for her.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=131080', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/31/looting-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-125203</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neighbor John signed up for the National Guard. What did he think when he joined? They&#039;d teach him to play tiddly winks so he could represent his county in the Silly Game Olympics?? There&#039;s a reason you go through weapons training when you join any branch of the military even if you plan on being just a mechanic. 

He knew that each summer he&#039;d be away from his family. He knew there was a chance he&#039;d be deployed here in the States in time of emergency. He knew there was a possibility he&#039;d be deployed overseas.

John got his GI bill, college tuition, extra pay and whatever other incentives he was given to join up but how dare the govt. come knocking to use his expertise now that it&#039;s time to pay up. 

For anyone to blame his state of mind, actions or reluctance to repay his dues on the govt. is just idiotic and naive. #31 has got to be one of the most uneducated, non-thought out, dumbest things I have ever read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neighbor John signed up for the National Guard. What did he think when he joined? They&#8217;d teach him to play tiddly winks so he could represent his county in the Silly Game Olympics?? There&#8217;s a reason you go through weapons training when you join any branch of the military even if you plan on being just a mechanic. </p>
<p>He knew that each summer he&#8217;d be away from his family. He knew there was a chance he&#8217;d be deployed here in the States in time of emergency. He knew there was a possibility he&#8217;d be deployed overseas.</p>
<p>John got his GI bill, college tuition, extra pay and whatever other incentives he was given to join up but how dare the govt. come knocking to use his expertise now that it&#8217;s time to pay up. </p>
<p>For anyone to blame his state of mind, actions or reluctance to repay his dues on the govt. is just idiotic and naive. #31 has got to be one of the most uneducated, non-thought out, dumbest things I have ever read.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=125203', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/31/looting-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-124916</link>
		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Looting is an ugly thing. Itâ€™s something our social fabric is loath to condone. Yet, itâ€™s clearly symptomatic of a larger issue. The majority of citizens in this country have been â€œlegallyâ€ looted for decades by a privileged class that perpetuates its own wealth at the expense of all others.&quot;

Nonsense Nilitos, that&#039;s pure unadulterated and unsupportable Marxist BS. But it does make the natives feel better about themselves. But that&#039;s one of your tricks, shift blame and enable. It&#039;s one of the reasons the Filthy Left can&#039;t get anyone elected. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Looting is an ugly thing. Itâ€™s something our social fabric is loath to condone. Yet, itâ€™s clearly symptomatic of a larger issue. The majority of citizens in this country have been â€œlegallyâ€ looted for decades by a privileged class that perpetuates its own wealth at the expense of all others.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nonsense Nilitos, that&#8217;s pure unadulterated and unsupportable Marxist BS. But it does make the natives feel better about themselves. But that&#8217;s one of your tricks, shift blame and enable. It&#8217;s one of the reasons the Filthy Left can&#8217;t get anyone elected. Keep up the good work.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=124916', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
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		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am beginning to believe that black people, no matter where in the world they are, are cursed with a genetic predisposition to steal, murder, and create mayhem.&quot;


I didn&#039;t say that, this guy did.

http://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20050902/cleisure/cleisure1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am beginning to believe that black people, no matter where in the world they are, are cursed with a genetic predisposition to steal, murder, and create mayhem.&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say that, this guy did.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20050902/cleisure/cleisure1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20050902/cleisure/cleisure1.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=124912', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Nilitos</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/31/looting-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-118311</link>
		<dc:creator>Nilitos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looting is an ugly thing.  It&#039;s something our social fabric is loath to condone.  Yet, it&#039;s clearly symptomatic of a larger issue.  The majority of citizens in this country have been &quot;legally&quot; looted for decades by a privileged class that perpetuates its own wealth at the expense of all others.  This group bobbles itself off our backbone while slicing away our flesh for consumption.  They systematically culture an environment of non-recourse where they declare and we can&#039;t object.  They declare what our options should be with respect to what energy, what medicines, what laws, what food, what news, what morality, what jobs, etc., and restrict our access and remedy to all alternatives in every manner, not unlike the culturing of barnyard animals.  In summation, they declare war but we fight it.  Most of these folks have never achieved anything on their own.  They have been given everything for nothing.  Most of these folks have never done any real work as we know it.  Instead they use things like calculators to add up their booty and policemen to bash heads and maintain â€œcivility.â€  They are all talking heads.  They have absolutely no sweat equity in the foundation of America as we know it.  Our backyards have become their outhouses.  They are as lazy and demented as they are thoughtless and arrogant.  Looters, like children, are only displaying the same lack of human respect they have been shown by sham parenting.  Looting, is after all, a frenzied and opportunistic form of disobedience that imbues the offenders with a transient equality, thus capitalizing on any breach in the levee to do unto those that which has been done to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looting is an ugly thing.  It&#8217;s something our social fabric is loath to condone.  Yet, it&#8217;s clearly symptomatic of a larger issue.  The majority of citizens in this country have been &#8220;legally&#8221; looted for decades by a privileged class that perpetuates its own wealth at the expense of all others.  This group bobbles itself off our backbone while slicing away our flesh for consumption.  They systematically culture an environment of non-recourse where they declare and we can&#8217;t object.  They declare what our options should be with respect to what energy, what medicines, what laws, what food, what news, what morality, what jobs, etc., and restrict our access and remedy to all alternatives in every manner, not unlike the culturing of barnyard animals.  In summation, they declare war but we fight it.  Most of these folks have never achieved anything on their own.  They have been given everything for nothing.  Most of these folks have never done any real work as we know it.  Instead they use things like calculators to add up their booty and policemen to bash heads and maintain â€œcivility.â€  They are all talking heads.  They have absolutely no sweat equity in the foundation of America as we know it.  Our backyards have become their outhouses.  They are as lazy and demented as they are thoughtless and arrogant.  Looters, like children, are only displaying the same lack of human respect they have been shown by sham parenting.  Looting, is after all, a frenzied and opportunistic form of disobedience that imbues the offenders with a transient equality, thus capitalizing on any breach in the levee to do unto those that which has been done to them.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=118311', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/31/looting-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-117844</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I donâ€™t think I have heard anyone complaining about people breaking into places and taking food, clothing, water, diapers, formula, or necessities like that.  That is definitely going on and I can not imagine any Cop or National Guardsman or Press person not turning a blind Eye to it.  No reasonable person expects anyone to starve or go thirsty or unclothed in such a situation when there are supplies in the area that can be used.  

What I have heard people complaining about is people breaking in and taking big screen TVâ€™s, and diamond bracelets, and shooting a Cop in the head.  None of those are actions required to satisfy needs.  Taking food to feed yourself or others is perfectly justified.  If you have time to go steel a big screen TV then you are hardly in a survival situation.  I suppose they could be steeling it to barter for food, but right now food and water are much more valuable than big screen TVâ€™s.

I think more likely they are buying into the entire obscene consumerism society that we have going here.  No one needs these things.  There are people all over the world for who the price of the big screen TV represents several years worth of wages.  

They are behaving entirely American though.  Thousands of us are spending more than we earn to purchase just the same kind of crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I donâ€™t think I have heard anyone complaining about people breaking into places and taking food, clothing, water, diapers, formula, or necessities like that.  That is definitely going on and I can not imagine any Cop or National Guardsman or Press person not turning a blind Eye to it.  No reasonable person expects anyone to starve or go thirsty or unclothed in such a situation when there are supplies in the area that can be used.  </p>
<p>What I have heard people complaining about is people breaking in and taking big screen TVâ€™s, and diamond bracelets, and shooting a Cop in the head.  None of those are actions required to satisfy needs.  Taking food to feed yourself or others is perfectly justified.  If you have time to go steel a big screen TV then you are hardly in a survival situation.  I suppose they could be steeling it to barter for food, but right now food and water are much more valuable than big screen TVâ€™s.</p>
<p>I think more likely they are buying into the entire obscene consumerism society that we have going here.  No one needs these things.  There are people all over the world for who the price of the big screen TV represents several years worth of wages.  </p>
<p>They are behaving entirely American though.  Thousands of us are spending more than we earn to purchase just the same kind of crap.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117844', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/31/looting-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-117728</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan, I am sorry for your neighbor - and appreciate the comments by Citizen.
I can only wonder how many more like him are going to appear.
Damn Bush!  I blame him for all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, I am sorry for your neighbor &#8211; and appreciate the comments by Citizen.<br />
I can only wonder how many more like him are going to appear.<br />
Damn Bush!  I blame him for all of this.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117728', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Neat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Neat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the right wing focuses on looting, they can ignore that these giant storms are a part of global warming that they&#039;ve ignored for 40 years.  They can also ignore that Bush has cut funds on Hurricane preparedness, and that even though we&#039;ve known for a good 30 years that this day would come, the federal government has done nothing significant to deal with this emminent event....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the right wing focuses on looting, they can ignore that these giant storms are a part of global warming that they&#8217;ve ignored for 40 years.  They can also ignore that Bush has cut funds on Hurricane preparedness, and that even though we&#8217;ve known for a good 30 years that this day would come, the federal government has done nothing significant to deal with this emminent event&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117519', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Commie bastard</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/31/looting-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-117328</link>
		<dc:creator>Commie bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put that witch in an internment camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put that witch in an internment camp.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117328', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sheezus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/31/looting-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-117280</link>
		<dc:creator>sheezus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have all kinds of jokes about the Superdome and the &quot;bowl&quot; that NO sits in, but this is just too sad. I&#039;ll just write a check to the RED CROSS today instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have all kinds of jokes about the Superdome and the &#8220;bowl&#8221; that NO sits in, but this is just too sad. I&#8217;ll just write a check to the RED CROSS today instead.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117280', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now is the time to point out the massive failure on this one.  I used to work in disaster management.  This one was completely forseeable, they just didn&#039;t focus.  This was one of the 3 biggest disaster scenarios in the US, along with the new Madrid and CA Earthquakes.  And the golden rule, was don&#039;t let the levees get breached, and second make sure order is kept.  They blew it on both counts. 

If you want to get rid of incompetents you need to point out when the fail.  Being polite and rallying around the flag might work if they people in charge know what they&#039;re doing.  They don&#039;t.  This is the third big thing they blew (along with 9-11 and Iraq).  

The choice is being rude or enabling incompetence at the highest levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now is the time to point out the massive failure on this one.  I used to work in disaster management.  This one was completely forseeable, they just didn&#8217;t focus.  This was one of the 3 biggest disaster scenarios in the US, along with the new Madrid and CA Earthquakes.  And the golden rule, was don&#8217;t let the levees get breached, and second make sure order is kept.  They blew it on both counts. </p>
<p>If you want to get rid of incompetents you need to point out when the fail.  Being polite and rallying around the flag might work if they people in charge know what they&#8217;re doing.  They don&#8217;t.  This is the third big thing they blew (along with 9-11 and Iraq).  </p>
<p>The choice is being rude or enabling incompetence at the highest levels.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117181', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I don't like the Koo-Aid</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/31/looting-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-117169</link>
		<dc:creator>I don't like the Koo-Aid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question is; How will the Bush Regime use the hurricane devastation to scare the American people,  into submission again? 

Since his poll numbers have dropped the Neo-Cons have to turn this American tragedy against the American people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is; How will the Bush Regime use the hurricane devastation to scare the American people,  into submission again? </p>
<p>Since his poll numbers have dropped the Neo-Cons have to turn this American tragedy against the American people.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117169', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now should not be the time, as Kevin Drum of the Washington Monthly has noted, for the politics of blame. In the wake of Katrina&#039;s devastation along the Gulf Coast, Americans should be united in providing relief, resources and support to all in need.

But sadly, that massive relief effort will take place during a time of divisive and fundamental debate about the very meaning of national unity in the United States. As New Orleans struggles for survival, the President and his amen corner are waging a full scale assault on the Estate Tax, what they derisively (and effectively) term the &quot;Death Tax.&quot; They will continue to pursue this massive transfer of the U.S. treasury to America&#039;s wealthiest, even as a mountain of evidence shows that successive Bush budget cuts devastated New Orleans&#039; disaster preparedness and levee maintenance...

For the full story, see:

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000241.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;New Orleans Pays the Death Tax.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now should not be the time, as Kevin Drum of the Washington Monthly has noted, for the politics of blame. In the wake of Katrina&#8217;s devastation along the Gulf Coast, Americans should be united in providing relief, resources and support to all in need.</p>
<p>But sadly, that massive relief effort will take place during a time of divisive and fundamental debate about the very meaning of national unity in the United States. As New Orleans struggles for survival, the President and his amen corner are waging a full scale assault on the Estate Tax, what they derisively (and effectively) term the &#8220;Death Tax.&#8221; They will continue to pursue this massive transfer of the U.S. treasury to America&#8217;s wealthiest, even as a mountain of evidence shows that successive Bush budget cuts devastated New Orleans&#8217; disaster preparedness and levee maintenance&#8230;</p>
<p>For the full story, see:</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000241.htm" rel="nofollow">&#8220;New Orleans Pays the Death Tax.&#8221;</a></b><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117165', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Citizen80203</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/31/looting-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-117159</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen80203</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan

Without knowing John it is impossible to elaborate. However, guessing would be financial, loss of control over his life, or maybe just too close to the furnace of Iraq as a reserve. We all know that under stress we are capable of acting irrationally, as such I sure if events spiral John would want you to call the police if violence occurs. I really don&#039;t that will be the case. It has to be his wife who seeks help, I&#039;m sure he trusts her and respects her fears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan</p>
<p>Without knowing John it is impossible to elaborate. However, guessing would be financial, loss of control over his life, or maybe just too close to the furnace of Iraq as a reserve. We all know that under stress we are capable of acting irrationally, as such I sure if events spiral John would want you to call the police if violence occurs. I really don&#8217;t that will be the case. It has to be his wife who seeks help, I&#8217;m sure he trusts her and respects her fears.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117159', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dc</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/31/looting-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-117154</link>
		<dc:creator>dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When someone in New Orleans takes a TV, they might watch it for years to come.  Imagine the carnage.

When Bush and Cheney allowed the looting of the ammunition dumps and explosive sites, well... let&#039;s cut this liberal media stuff anyway.

(When is the last time that catastrophic success freed up some time and resources, anyway?  Uhh... I guess the greatest satellite reconnaissance system was uh.. er... turned off er... something... 300 tons of HMX?  Didn&#039;t see a thing.)

---  Kitchen Tip of the Week :

Keep all that powdered HMX explosive a fresh as the day you looted it, by storing in Tupperware.  It&#039;s easy to  smuggle, too!  Not like a TV, or armor-piercing soviet shells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When someone in New Orleans takes a TV, they might watch it for years to come.  Imagine the carnage.</p>
<p>When Bush and Cheney allowed the looting of the ammunition dumps and explosive sites, well&#8230; let&#8217;s cut this liberal media stuff anyway.</p>
<p>(When is the last time that catastrophic success freed up some time and resources, anyway?  Uhh&#8230; I guess the greatest satellite reconnaissance system was uh.. er&#8230; turned off er&#8230; something&#8230; 300 tons of HMX?  Didn&#8217;t see a thing.)</p>
<p>&#8212;  Kitchen Tip of the Week :</p>
<p>Keep all that powdered HMX explosive a fresh as the day you looted it, by storing in Tupperware.  It&#8217;s easy to  smuggle, too!  Not like a TV, or armor-piercing soviet shells.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117154', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/31/looting-hypocrisy/comment-page-1/#comment-117148</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks citizen.  &quot;Johns&quot; wife wants to talk to me in private but her husband is home today.  She seems extremely nervous.  This guy is normally very quiet and I suspect he will say he can handle it on his own.  I&#039;m very worried about this family and if things sound too rough I don&#039;t think I can call the cops on him or anything like that.  What do you mean by underlying problem?  Can you elaborate please.  I know for a fact that he doesn&#039;t want to go to Iraq and kill people, at least he didn&#039;t at the beginning of the month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks citizen.  &#8220;Johns&#8221; wife wants to talk to me in private but her husband is home today.  She seems extremely nervous.  This guy is normally very quiet and I suspect he will say he can handle it on his own.  I&#8217;m very worried about this family and if things sound too rough I don&#8217;t think I can call the cops on him or anything like that.  What do you mean by underlying problem?  Can you elaborate please.  I know for a fact that he doesn&#8217;t want to go to Iraq and kill people, at least he didn&#8217;t at the beginning of the month.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117148', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Citizen80203</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen80203</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Malkin, Michelle, Michelle, Michelle.

The right is starting to convulse. The thrashing is going to get much much worse. Dear Leader has spent all his capital on ice cream and is left with nothing. I believe we are witnessing a historical event. We are watching a political party self-destructing in a way never before seen (of course, our own is not stepping up either). Malkin and her ilk on the fringe are responding with the desperation of addiction, deny and attack. I don&#039;t know if I should laugh and stand back, or just watch with cold detachment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Malkin, Michelle, Michelle, Michelle.</p>
<p>The right is starting to convulse. The thrashing is going to get much much worse. Dear Leader has spent all his capital on ice cream and is left with nothing. I believe we are witnessing a historical event. We are watching a political party self-destructing in a way never before seen (of course, our own is not stepping up either). Malkin and her ilk on the fringe are responding with the desperation of addiction, deny and attack. I don&#8217;t know if I should laugh and stand back, or just watch with cold detachment.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=117147', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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