FEMA Director Offers New Spin On Broken Levees
FEMA Director Offers New Spin On Broken Levees
Yesterday, Bush said “I don’t think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees.” Today, FEMA director Mike Brown was asked about that comment on ABC’s Good Morning America:
GIBSON: Mike, with all due respect to you and with all due respect to the president, I was amazed to hear him say to Diane yesterday, We didn’t know the levees were going to break. We didn’t know the dams wouldn’t hold.
We all were talking about that on Monday morning, that the levees were only built to withstand a category 3 hurricane. There’s batches of reports that say that. And you knew a 4 or 5 was coming all weekend long.
BROWN: I think we were all taken aback by the fact that the levees did break in so many places and caused such widespread devastation. And so we’re responding the best we can to help those people that are stuck in this ongoing disaster.
So the new story is: that administration knew the levees would break but didn’t think it was going to cause so much devastation. How could the administration not know that the flooding of a major city would cause massive devastation?
(The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette headline on 10/17/04: New Orleans In Danger of Drowning; Hurricane Ivan Passed It By, But a Direct Hit By Another Storm Would Swamp Its Levees and Leave Thousands Dead.)
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To be fair, how could they possibly have known or been prepared for this tragedy given the important privatization and gutting of FEMA in the name of “homeland security”.
Hey here’s an IDEA… Hire KBR to come in and setup tent cities and kitchens like we did in Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti, Kuwait…
September 2nd, 2005 at 10:47 amI don’t think these jokers know ANYTHING
September 2nd, 2005 at 10:51 amHere’s a short rebuttal to the spin that things were just too complex for engineers and civic authorities to address.
“”The Dutch and their ancestors have been working to hold back and reclaim land from the North Sea for over 2000 years. Over 2000 years ago, the Frisians who first settled the Netherlands began to build terpen, the first dykes to hold back the water.”
Today, approximately 27 percent of the Netherlands is actually below sea level. This area is home to over 60 percent of the country’s population of 15.8 million people. The Netherlands, which is approximately the size of the U.S. states Connecticut and Massachusetts combined, has an approximate average elevation of 11 meters (36 feet). The Netherlands ties Lemmefjord, Denmark for claim to the lowest point in Western Europe - Prince Alexander Polder lies at 23 feet (7 meters) below sea level.”
http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa033000a.htm
September 2nd, 2005 at 10:57 amThey sure as hell know how to raise gasoline prices!
September 2nd, 2005 at 10:57 amIncredible, utterly incredible.
As an outsider (Norwegian sitting in Australia) I find it hard to believe that the world’s richest country seem totaly - and I mean TOTALLY - unable to act upon this disaster that has struck the US.
Where’s the army?
Where’s the National Guard?
Where’s all the other measurements that should’ve been in place to handle such a situation.
Now I’m in no place to criticise US politics really…but this seems to me to be the greatest cock-up by a resourceful government I’ve ever seen.
Good luck to all the poor people in the NO area.
September 2nd, 2005 at 10:58 amOver two years ago, I wrote a long piece titled, “The Opt Out Society: The GOP Threat to National Unity and the American Social Contract.”
Now, two years later, with New Orleans in ruins, hundreds dead and thousands more at risk, we see the willful neglect of the Bush administration and the morally bankrupt conservative public philosophy behind it in the clear light of day.
Theirs is the Opt Out Society indeed. And in it, you are on your own…
For the full story, see:
“Compassionate Conservatism, RIP.”
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:00 amBush playing guitar.
Bush eating cake.
Bush playing golf.
All while people were dying in the streets.
This man must be stopped.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:02 amToday the Black Caucus did what should have been done last weekend. Desperately rallying for help.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:05 amThere is plenty of money for pork barrel projects in Alaska for a bridge to no ware but try and do something like get prepared for disaster or maintain the infrastructure etc and see what the answer is.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:06 amBLACK CARCAS JUST WANTS MORE HANDOUTS FROM THE NANNY STATE. THESE PEOPLE NEED TO GET OFF THE GUBMINT TIT AND LEAN TO SINK OR SWIM!
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:09 am[…] While President Bush has maintained that nobody could have “anticipated the breach of the levees,” more and more information is being revealed to demonstrate that the adminstration was fully aware of the catastrophic damage that could result if a hurricane were to strike the New Orleans region. […]
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:10 amBREAKING: FEMA Director Michael Brown FORCED to resign!!
Oops. My bad. Sorry, this is an old story, he’s not resigning from FEMA. But he was FORCED to resign from his position as “Judges and Stewards Commissioner†for the International Arabian Horses Association (IAHA) in the face of mounting litigation and financial disarray at IAHA.
http://www.horsesass.org
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:10 amThey are disconnected to reality…simple as that. They live in a world that defies my ability to describe…I hope that makes me “sane”. From the Rummie’s auto-signature machine for letters to the family’s of dead GIs to Dumbya’s tax cuts for rich and here is a minute trickle down to the rest policy to the use of a dieing woman in a vegetable state for political gain to Condi’s shopping spree to Bushie’s cake eating and bike riding….and on…and on…it simply is pathetic.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:12 am“Here’s a short rebuttal to the spin that things were just too complex for engineers and civic authorities to address.”
WHAT ARE U A ROKET SCIENTOLOGIST? THEY DON’T GOT NO DUCTH HURRACANES YOU IGNORANT DEMOCOMMIE. STOP TRYING TO BLAME BUSH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DIRTY HIPPYS.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:12 amYou have to understand that these are poor, Black Democrats who are dying. What does the GOP care about a few thousand less of THOSE people?
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:16 amBill, the jokers are only too aware. They just don’t give a shit. Their bubble is twirling beautifully as long as they and theirs remain high and dry, safe and sound. The same perspective applied to the Iraq war is now being waged against the victims of the Gulf Coast catastrophe because they are considered Society’s dregs and not “somebody”. All of the “somebodies” are high and dry today because, unlike the poor, they had to ways and means to survive,. George Bush bravely lands in Mobile, Alabama this morning for photo ops and lip service. All hail the Joker in Chief.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:18 amHow can he say that? Everyone knew those levees would break in the event of a hurricane of this magnitude. Is he saying no one thought that this hurricane (category 4-5) would hit? Even that’s not true. Argh, this is driving me crazy.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:19 amBush can create non-existent links between al-Qaeda and Saddam out of thin air; even when the Intelligence says that those links were unlikely: http://www.fas.org/ irp/ congress/ 2005_cr/ levin041505.html
Yet he can’t put 1 and 1 together, to get 2, regarding New Orleans. Unintelligent Design?
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:22 amMatt Taibbi wrote in Rolling Stone recently “there are times when American politics seems like little more than two groups in a fever to prevent each other from trespassing upon their respective, soothing versions of unreality.” Too bloody true, mate.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:24 amDay 5 and the hospitals still aren’t secure; both democrats and republicans should wake up and realize that their 2-party system is a corrupt joke…time to ‘invest in rope’…just what the heck is it gonna take for the average US citizen to wake up and smell the reality? The choice between two corrupt parties is no choice at all!
Yo, BUSH LOVER,
If you’re joking, your an idiot. If your not joking, you’re an idiot. Either way, you sure fit right in with the rest of the “BUSH LOVERS”.
If that is too difficult for you to understand, it is not a big surprise…
Leave it to an ignoramous to make idiotic comments while thousands of people are suffering enormously and dying due to the ineptitude of the BUSH you love and all his cohorts…
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:27 am“You have to understand that these are poor, Black Democrats who are dying.”
Maybe, maybe not. But if any of the survivors still have brain cells, they will hate the neocon traitors who have captured the White House with all their hearts and souls.
Let me be the first to mention this. Bush and his corporate handlers are happy and joyful over this horrible disaster for two reasons:
1) A chance to gouge at the gas pump, and
2) Just like with Iraq, the real prize will be the rebuilding contracts handed out to the corporations that sponsor the administration. Watch for Halliburton, Bechtel etc. being rushed in to “save” New Orleans.
Meanwhile, the anti-american neocon bastards laugh, and laugh, and laugh…
-dwvr
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:33 amOne of the biggie arguments for going after Saddam was that he “killed his own people.”
Someone tell me how gassing Kurds is so damn different from leaving rescued Americans to die of dehydration after they’ve been carefully pulled off rooftops?
EVERY death after the hurricane itself is at BushCo’s feet. I wouldn’t plan a party the way they “planned” this mess.
Bush killed his own people. May he never sleep.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:39 amWHAT ARE U A ROKET SCIENTOLOGIST? THEY DON’T GOT NO DUCTH HURRACANES YOU IGNORANT DEMOCOMMIE.
And yet their flood control systems make ours look positively primitive. Go figure.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:46 amToday the Black Caucus did what should have been done last weekend. Desperately rallying for help.
Maybe last weekend they assumed the President would organize the necessary response?
A big assumption, I admit, but one that would be valid under a competent administration.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:48 amPathetic. Really. Your handle says it all.
You know Bush Luver, you truly hope this isn’t war. You and everyone like you would run the other way.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:53 amBush lover - take some spelling lessons.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:55 am“First, in order to prevent the extinction of the human race, the world’s population must be reduced by as many as four billion people. Second, especially since 9/11, this reality has been secretly accepted and is being acted upon by world leaders.”
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:02 pmMichael Ruppert, “Crossing the Rubicon”, page 23, published in 2004
http://www.amazon.com/ exec/ obidos/ tg/ detail/ -/ 0865715408/ 103-5154831-6553423?v=glance
Kinda puts a different light on everything, don’t it?
Bush and Condi (now on her shoe buying spree) both said ‘no one could imagine someone would fly a plane into the twin towers…’ also. Turns out that was a lie too.
BTW Condi, how was the Broadway show?
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:07 pmHave you ever noticed that Bush supporters always seem to write in ALL CAPS. I’m sure they must have a good reason, I just can’t figure out what it might be.
Each time I read comments from those like BUSH LUVER, I post somewhere to remind people that we simply must begin writing our elected representatives in Washington and urging them to do whatever necessary to ensure a transparent vote count in 2008 or we will continue having people like BUSH LUVER controlling our great country. Remember, it’s who COUNTS our votes that count.
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:11 pmWell Bush praied that the levee wouldn’t break and was suprised when they did.
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:15 pmHere’s the part that really frightens me. How many times have we been told about the work Bushco has done to make this country safer since 9/11? We’ve spent four years and billions preparing to face a major terrorist attack, and this is the best we can do? Heaven help us and our Katzenjammer Kids leadership if the terrorists ever do strike.
And aren’t you tired of the Republican talking point of how Clinton didn’t do anything either? As in, well, Clinton thought Iraq had WMD, or Clinton didn’t do anything about the levees. How does any previous administration’s malfeasance justify this adminstration’s malfeasance? That makes no sense to me at all. That’s the kind of argument seven-year olds make. Astonishing — just astonishing.
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:16 pmThe criminals in charge of our country always act so surprised at the most obvious truths. This is their sop to excuse their bnlatant lack of concern for the average Anmerican.
They did not know the levees would break - uh huh -right. Just like everyone thought saddam had wmd’s. And no one could have imagined the chaos our invasion of Iraq caused. And on and on and on.
What is pathetic is that so many of the sheeple in this country go right on believing this crap. In one respect we get the government we deserve.
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:16 pmThe Bush legacy: A needless war that profited Halliburton 12 Billion dollars and at home, degradation of the environment, money for fixing the levees diverted to Iraq and selling of the wetlands that cost us a beautiful city.
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:19 pmWhat did anyone expect. The president is a semi-retarded criminal surrounded by lying criminals who have looted the country and now we have no resources left.
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:20 pmI can’t think of one thing this team of monkeys hasn’t completely F@#$’d up due to incompetence, greed, hubris, partisan politics, or a combination of all the above. Now that we have yet another catastrophe due in large part to our “leader”’s failings, when will this last 40-some-odd-percent of his supporters going to WAKE UP??? And BUSH LUVER, give it a rest, or just keep making an ass of yourself, it IS a free KKKuntry, right? -wishing I was a dirty hippy
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:23 pmGeorge W Bush is simply one of the most evil men to ever walk the face of the earth.
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:30 pmam listening to AA- Rachel Maddow running thru a litany of the lies of the admin. I have to say that she is and has been brilliant!- As has Think Progress. Now- what is missing is the following: The whitehouse press corps has to be pushed and pushed and pushed until the create a incident with mcclellan or however it is spelled. If they start to challenge the bastard EVERY SINGLE TIME HE LIES then we can succeed in getting the coverage needed to make a change.
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:46 pmI realize that this might just appear to be miniscule but if prodded enough, he will err and the errors will be worth picking up and broadcast and then………
We need to force this entire administration to step down. Walk to the federal prison, pick a cell and pile in. In those cells is where they should sit with no food or water until they all pass away. The world will be a much better place.
September 2nd, 2005 at 12:57 pmI sure am glad Bush supporters post on these forums. Sometimes one can forget just how stupid they really are.
Thanks for the reminder, ‘BUSH LUVER’.
September 2nd, 2005 at 1:08 pmHey Ex-hippie, levee expert,
September 2nd, 2005 at 1:17 pmThe levees were built to withstand a Cat 3 hurricane. Idiot.
Michael Brown the FEMA Director should be fired for incompetence. He has no idea what he is doing and was put in that position only because he was one of Bush’s Rangers that gave over $200,000 to the Bush/Cheney campaign. His answers the last few days have been horrific.
Fire the S-O-B.
September 2nd, 2005 at 1:30 pmre No. 9 and all subsequent comments by same poster as well as replies thereto:
No way is this guy for real. He’s posting outrageous crap to draw a response from you and then you give it to him, so he comes back and posts more.
Don’t feed the trolls.
September 2nd, 2005 at 1:35 pmmaybe I’m a levee expert by redstate standards. If they were built to cat 3 standards, you don’t see that as a problem? or would you argue that cat 5 hurricanes do not exist in the gulf? well you got me there
now you can move on to explain how the rescue and relief efforts are right on schedule.
September 2nd, 2005 at 1:48 pmNow refer to this list of USCOE projects. Notice they were begun in the 90’s. Take note of how many are complete. Take note of expected completion dates, 2009, 2013, etc. How can any rational person place the blame squarely on the current administration? The risk to New Orleans has been known for decades.
September 2nd, 2005 at 2:01 pmhttp://www.mvn.usace.army.mil/ eng2/ edsd/ proj_maps/ pmap_fcp2.htm
This is also worth taking a look at.
September 2nd, 2005 at 2:15 pmhttp://www.nytimes.com/ packages/ html/ national/ 2005_HURRICANEKATRINA_GRAPHIC/ index_02.html
VACATION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!
September 2nd, 2005 at 2:19 pmGrover Norquist, one of the leading strategists for the Republican cabal now in power put his goal quite simply: “My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years,” he says, “to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.”
The chaos in New Orleans is an example of what you get when you do that!
Welcome to Grover Norquist and the Republican’s idea of the “rightsized” government and the appropriate level of federal involvement in disaster PREPAREDNESS and relief.
If anybody from Louisiana, Alabama, or Mississippi should ever meet Grover, you can tell (show) him how you feel, though personally, I doubt he likes to spend much time in the poorer parts of our nation.
Meanwhile, our noble president needs to take a few photo ops with some homeless (but unarmed) black people (who have been washed up a bit, I’m sure, and probably been given some food and water) so he can appear “compassionate.”
That line about “zero tolerance” for looting, without regard for whether it was looting a few bottles of water from an already opened up store or looting a few AK-47’s with the help of a bulldozer, definitely shows his compassion.
Hypocrites.
Hypocrites and liars and thieves.
Hypocrites, liars, and thieves and INCOMPETENT as well.
Charlie L
September 2nd, 2005 at 2:23 pmPortland, OR
CLL2001@gmail.com
Re: #43 (John) Point taken, John, so to BUSH LUVER and other supporters who’re posting here today, why not run over to http://www.frontpagemagazine.com and post over there. Believe me, they’ll LUV you over there!
September 2nd, 2005 at 2:23 pmFEMA’s Michael Brown should only be fired after he is put in the Convention Center for four days without food or water. He had the gall to say part of the problem in New Orleans was that they couldn’t deal with the numbers of people who stayed through the storm…implying guilt for victims who had no cars and no resources. (I’m paraphrasing.)
September 2nd, 2005 at 2:28 pmNow this is a quote, they were “coming out of the woodwork”. MR. BROWN, THE VICTIMS IN THIS TRAGEDY ARE NOT BUGS OR VERMIN. THEY ARE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AND DESERVE MORE RESPECT AND MORE EFFECTIVE AID.
DO YOUR JOB AND QUIT BLAMING THE BLAMELESS!
This is what we get when an incompetent fool puts one of his equally incompetent friends in positions of critical importance. Chertoff and Brown have no experience - none - nada - zilch - in the fields for which they have control. Their credentials are that they are friends of shrub - the boy king.
September 2nd, 2005 at 2:36 pmAnd HIS credentials are what?
re Blaming the Blameless
I called my extremely conservative mom and dad last night about the situation. My dad said, “They stayed so they could loot.” (No, I’m not proud to be reporting this). Either it was a joke, in which case it wasn’t very funny, or he was serious, in which case he’s nuts, or something in between.
And before I could get a word in edgewise, my mom — the rabid Ann Coulter fan — goes off on Dad for thinking 20,000 poor people without cars could just pick up sticks and leave.
If rabid Ann Coulter fans realize that the people who stayed couldn’t afford to leave, maybe there is some hope here.
September 2nd, 2005 at 2:39 pmThe Bush admin can be blamed because they only funded the levi construction at 20% of what the corp of engineers needed. Clinton funded it at 100%. But Bush had to have those tax cuts for the rich and his war in Iraq.
September 2nd, 2005 at 2:47 pmlEVI? Idiot.
September 2nd, 2005 at 2:54 pmHey, these compassionate conservatives haven’t met a victim they couldn’t blame for the situation they found themselves in, whether it was a rape victim (she dressed sexy, she teased, etc.) to a woman needing an abortion (she was loose), to poverty in the inner city (where are the fathers?) to the people of NOLA (they should have gotten out when they could).
These people are devoid of compassion. Don’t forget, bush (with Alberto by his side) were the ones that pumping their fists and laughing as people were being executed in Texas. I have no doubt that each and every one of them abused animals as a child, like bush killing frogs with firecrackers.
These republicans that the media and the courts helped put into power are the sickest people I have ever seen. And they are pathological liars as well, who tell lies as easily as they open their mouths and don’t hesitate to change the lies up whenever they think they need to. T
he mass media (until this week) were almost complete enablers of this devastation, and just because they seemed to have grown spines in the last few days, doesn’t mean we should let them off the hook.
Charlie L
Portland, OR
CLL2001@gmail.com
Remember to visit hurricanehousing.org and do what you can.
September 2nd, 2005 at 2:55 pmIn 1993 I was flying from Colorado to New Jersey and we flew over the mississippi river during that years flood. The river was twenty miles wide where I flew over it and this due to the levee’s breaking. The earth is a very powerful force and it has been know for some time that water has a way of creating channels through the earths surface (Grand Canyon) and causing great and vast suffering for mankind. That GWB uses the paltry excuse that no one saw this comming is tatamount to crapping on those that are now suffering. But, alas blaming the incompetence of these jokers does not help those bretheren of our now suffering. I think the primary focus should be getting help to those in need. To this end I am willing to spend as much time as neccisary in the states and communities that most need any help that I can offer. After the citizens are taken care of and life in thier part of the nation returns to a semblence of normality than and only than do request that we all remember and call into justice the government and thier lack of responce and caring for those that have suffered so much and found no reprise from the officials that they elected and send so many of thier hard earned dollars too. People it is time to inact the promises laid down by Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and the rest of the founders of our nation who’s idea was that this nation be governed by the people of this nation, not some unholy corporation who’s only care is thier bottom line. The monies you have been paying in taxes is the monies that should now be used to secure American soil not to secure some depraved idea of an illegal war. Thomas Jefferson onced penned this statement….
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, having its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Such has been the patient suffrance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
You may recognize these words as the first two paragraphs of our Declaration of Independence and you would be correct in doing so. Let us, for now tend to our fallen bretheren in the southeast and after they recieve our comfort and return to a state that is more normal in thier live call into the accountability of the government that has so disgracfully abandoned them to the ravages of nature.
September 2nd, 2005 at 3:01 pmThank You
Craig Struthers
I know; My spelling and grammar is atrocious but I am so angered by this governments attitude that I cannot think to care about my penmanship.
September 2nd, 2005 at 3:07 pmThe government’s claim that it didn’t anticipate the levees would break reminds me of the testimony of the Army general and Navy admiral who were theoretically in charge of defending Pearl Harbor.
They said they didn’t anticipate the Japanese would attack our battle fleet in the harbor. I.e., it was the worst-case scenario so they didn’t anticipate it.
Seems to me that disaster planning is all about anticipating disaster.
September 2nd, 2005 at 3:13 pmHow to drastically reduce the world’s population?
Ans. If everybody had just one or two children (and some had none) he population would be reduced to half in 20 years, and half of that — in other words down to 1/4 of what it orignianlly was in forty years, and down to an 1/8 of what it was in 60 years. No wars, famines, natural disasters required. The answer to overpopulation is female education, sex education, and availabilty of safe easy to use contraception.
This is exactly what is spontaneously happening in most of the developed world. Although it must be admitted that a shrinking population brings problems of its own.
September 2nd, 2005 at 3:22 pmRepublicans will feel the repercussions of this disaster for years to come. While the Iraq war and the bizarre behavior over the past 24 months of many Republicans has opened a lot of previously dulled eyes, I suspect we’re not only watching the biggest disaster in American history unfold, we are also seeing the implosion of the Republican party as well.
September 2nd, 2005 at 3:49 pmAdding to this are the type of comments we see from people like “bush luver” above—sometimes, just letting them speak provides us with more credibility than any one hundred great deeds done by progressives.
May the people in the south get all the help they deserve because unlike most conservatives, we actually CARE for Americans—ALL of em!
Hooray, Craig Struthers! Written like a true patriot! Kudos!
September 2nd, 2005 at 4:10 pmNice post Struthers. First things first. Get aid to all who need it and then punish the bastards who caused this to happen:
September 2nd, 2005 at 4:15 pmBush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Rove, Card, Chertoff, Brown, — that’s enough for starters.
Re #43:
I’m kind of sorry that the LUVER seems to have vanished; I was enjoying the posts. Admittedly, it wasn’t the best satire I’ve ever seen - Jonathan Swift is in no danger - but it was a nice effort.
And for those of you who took them seriously: “cultimulcheralists?” C’mon.
September 2nd, 2005 at 4:51 pmWhy aren’t the Democrats jumping on Bush’s utter load of crap? Where are Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton today? They should have voiced their support to the Black Caucus immediately. What a sad day for our country, while the oil baron are laughing their way to the bank with gasoline reaching as high as $6/gallon. SHAME!!!
September 2nd, 2005 at 5:52 pmShrub’s lying comment “I don’t think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees” sure sounds a lot like Rice’s lying 9/11 comment “I don’t think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center.”
Since 9/11 gave Shrub/Halliburton a reason to profit from the War on Terror, maybe now they have another reason to appropriate our tax dollars, a War on Weather.
I can visualize it now. The neo-con controlled media and the Konservative Khristian Koalition’s leadership could sell it. Of course, they would use fear to get the weak-minded fired up for the cause. Earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis…Oh My.
I know this sounds ridiculous, but they used the War on Terror to invade an oil rich country that had nothing to do with 9/11. And if I remember correctly, at the start of the invasion, over 70% of America thought it was ok. Shrub’s Architect is a master of psychology. He has conditioned the people who believe in the Prince of Peace to hate, hasn’t he?
September 2nd, 2005 at 5:58 pmMaybe LUVER went out to kick someone in a wheelchair, and will be back to spew more venom toward the victims of this criminal government.
September 2nd, 2005 at 6:01 pm“Republicans will feel the repercussions of this disaster for years to come.”
Misery, I wish I were as optimistic as you are, but unfortunately I can’t put too much faith in a system where one party robs the American people blind and the other watches without doing anything, hoping to get some of the spoils. No, the poor black people of NOLA will not rush to vote for the Dems next year, I’m afraid the Katrina disaster will result in an even more cynical attitude toward ANY politician of either party. It’s time to create a REAL party of the left in America and give some REAL power to the people.
September 2nd, 2005 at 6:11 pmDisillusioned,
This government is and has always been a sham. They stole the last 2 elections through electronic voting machine rigging. They lost the last election by 3 million votes - and they’re becoming increasingly unpopular because of their utter incompetence and mismanagement. This crew make the enron and worldcom leadership look like gurus. Without Diebold and Triad, george wouldn’t have been either the governor of texas or the president - instead he’d be just another texas good old boy scam artist like his brother.
September 2nd, 2005 at 7:33 pmAh Lyin Ryan is back spreading more lies.
September 2nd, 2005 at 8:48 pmGeorge W. Bush would have won a hand recount of all disputed ballots in Florida’s presidential election if the most widely accepted standard for judging votes had been applied, the first comprehensive examination of the ballots shows. However, the review of 171,908 ballots also reveals that voting mistakes by thousands of Democratic voters — errors that legally disqualified their ballots — probably cost former vice president Al Gore 15,000 to 25,000 votes. That’s enough to have decisively won Florida and the White House. Gore’s best chance to win was lost before the ballots were counted, the study shows. Voters’ confusion with ballot instruction and design and voting machines appears to have changed the course of U.S. history.
http://www.usatoday.com/ news/ washington/ 2001-05-10-recountmain.htm
Thanks Steed. I guess you will be just as happy when a guilty murderer gets off on a technicality. But thanks for reminding us who actually won, Al Gore.
“The newspaper said the study of 171,908 ballots also found that errors by Democratic voters probably cost former Vice President Al Gore as many as 25,000 votes, enough to have decisively won Florida and the 2000 election.”
September 2nd, 2005 at 9:15 pmSteed,
Why do so many neo-con drones echo FoxNews spin?
Here’s a confession from the White House lawn. (it’s a video so it takes a moment to load) http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/peterking.mov
If there were an unbias investigation, Jeb and Harris of Florida and Blackwell of Ohio would be behind bars.
September 2nd, 2005 at 9:34 pmgta, you “conveniently excluded” this from the sentence:
errors that legally disqualified their ballots
Afraid of the truth? Lame attempt to defend Lyin Ryan.
And Ricky, try using and unbiased source please. That was weak.
September 2nd, 2005 at 9:58 pmIf ever there was a great expression of need for tight gun control in the USA it is the stories of rescuers and helicopters being shot at/shot.
September 2nd, 2005 at 10:36 pmBUSH WORSHIPPER wrote: “GOD HAS NO PLACE IN HELL FOR THE DEVIL AND DEMOCOMMIES.”
Is that because he’s already filled it with republicans?
September 3rd, 2005 at 1:41 amno one could anticipate airplanes used as bombs flown into buildings. no one could have anticipated the levees would break. no one could have anticipated the chimpster would emulate his fellow primates, the see no, hear no, speak no evil monkeys.
September 3rd, 2005 at 4:09 am“What did anyone expect. The president is a semi-retarded criminal surrounded by lying criminals who have looted the country and now we have no resources left.”
(Comment by stan byer — September 2, 2005 @ 12:20 pm)
Stan, I have to disagree. There’s no “semi-” about it.
September 3rd, 2005 at 7:18 amBUSH&CO. NEEDS TObe IMPEACHED! they have ruined this country,looks like a third-world country.wake up america!
September 3rd, 2005 at 8:51 amRemember, Bush is barely functional. Blame the Katrina response on Rove, a guy in deep doodoo, who benefits from these continuing diversions.
September 3rd, 2005 at 10:20 amBush and company not only knew that the levees would break, just as they knew about using planes as bombs before 9/11. They are using the same excuse that they “didn’t know” that these things would happen.
What DO they know? What do they care about regular people? None of these people served in combat, the darn chicken hawks. They are tools of corporations.
They did nothing because the Governor of Louisana is a Democrat, as is the Mayor of New Orleans.
They simply don’t care about regular people, and this just proves it.
Supplies didn’t start arrive until Shrub showed up in New Orleans. No coincidence. Like John Wayne coming in with the cavalry. Piece of you know what!
Now they are going to give no bid contracts to Haliburton and its subsidiaries, as they did in their war of choice in Iraq.
They are getting richer and richer off of corporate welfare, while they are destroying the middle class, and killing those in poverty by removing essential programs for the poor, and the downsizing of everything. Today, a CEO’s salary is much larger in proportion to a regular worker’s salary than it ever has been. When the corporations gain more profits, they don’t use it to reinvest, or give regular employees raises. They give the CEOs multi-million dollar bonuses and platinum parachutes, should they decide to leave.
This is the beginning of a class war. Anyone who denies this, can stand with the rich and see how they make out. The rich will brainwash them, and use them for what they need to, and then dispose of them when they are no longer needed.
Just my dollar three eighty and eleventy-two cents.
September 3rd, 2005 at 10:29 am>
There’s no arguing with facts Ricky
Yes indeedy, 70% of Americans did believe the “Worst Presdent Ever” about the necessity of invading Iraq. But that was because they had been fed a steady diet of bullshit about WMDs, and links between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden (links in addition to the one thatboth of them were created and financed by the CIA)
But the decline of support for the Iraqi fiasco must mean that Americans are figuring out that Bush LIED and People DIED.
Just as Bush is lying now
some things never change
September 3rd, 2005 at 10:34 amApparently the President’s intimate relationship with “The Almighty” is on the outs.
September 3rd, 2005 at 10:59 amsuch great comments. i think the best one-well, there are so many to really choose, was the correction of the semi retarded chimp. he stated that the best thing is to drop the semi. an illiterate president. i think the military still put it’s members in the stockade for being awol. this sheltered illiterate should have been put away and saved us this nightmare.
September 3rd, 2005 at 11:02 amMonica blew Bill … Impeachment !
George II blew Katrina … exile in Tikrit ?
September 3rd, 2005 at 7:15 pmAnd He rode forth from a White House and His name was Death
On the first day the skies opened up and a great flood poured forth, and He rested.
On the second day the flood waters rose and people died in great numbers, and He rested.
On the third day bodies floated by like cord wood and the survivors watched in horror as they realized the end was near for them, and He rested
On the forth day the survivors went forth in search of drinking water and food amidst the death and destruction. This angered Him and he called forth his minions to stop them.
On the fifth day He rode forth from a White House to survey His work and proclaimed the destruction to be complete.
On the sixth day those strong enough began a mass exodious for their world was no more. The Great Deceiver left them knowing pestilence would finish His work.
The Anti-Christ is among us…and his name is Dubya.
September 4th, 2005 at 11:36 amEven Mr. Bill (not Clinton) knew that the levees would break.
http://petty-larseny.blogspot.com/ 2005/ 09/ mr-bill-for-president.html
September 4th, 2005 at 3:14 pmI find it interesting that someone who was diagnosed with a “condition” that makes him think he is superior to everyone else is running this country. I am a lesbian, and its hard to watch this man convince people that I just dont exist.. because it’s “against his beliefs” to allow people to marry the ones they love. now he is using his lies as an excuse for his predjudice. I can’t stand it.. poor black people are people too, when will it stop?
September 24th, 2005 at 8:23 amhello
October 5th, 2005 at 9:09 amI am a republican and I am sad to say that I am embarassed that people like “Bush luver” are republicans… pity
October 16th, 2005 at 7:50 pmAll gay people should leave our country and go move to canada where they belong, its sad that men like other men, when there are foxes like jessica simpson running around, thats why god made adam and eve not adam and steve
October 16th, 2005 at 7:53 pmAll gay people should leave our country and go move to canada where they belong, its sad that men like other men, when there are foxes like jessica simpson running around, thats why god made adam and eve not adam and steve.
October 16th, 2005 at 7:54 pm