O’Reilly: People Who Stayed “Paid a Price”
O’Reilly: People Who Stayed “Paid a Price”
More compassion from Bill O’Reilly for the hurricane victims…
Here is the on-screen talking points memo from tonight’s show on Fox:
Moral of the story: People were warned to get out. Those who stayed paid a price for that decision. If you rely on the government, you’re likely to be disappointed. No government can protect you or provide for you. You have to do it yourself. If a Category 5 story is headed your way, get out fast.
O’Reilly seems to have little understanding of the conditions which affected many of those individuals who did not evacuate. From the NYT:
The victims, they note, were largely black and poor, those who toiled in the background of the tourist havens, living in tumbledown neighborhoods that were long known to be vulnerable to disaster if the levees failed. Without so much as a car or bus fare to escape ahead of time, they found themselves left behind by a failure to plan for their rescue should the dreaded day ever arrive.
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What a horrible and selfish thing to say.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:28 pmGood God, that man has no soul. Does he really think most of those people had a choice to leave and let it pass? When you are living at or below the poverty level, you don’t have a working vehicle to get you out of there. You don’t have money to pay for $2.50/gallon gasoline. You don’t have money to pay for a hotel or motel 200 miles away. You don’t have money to hire transport.
O’Reilly had a choice to show some compassion and, ultimately, he will have to pay the price for his cold heart.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:33 pmMy F’n tax dollars go to this F’n government to assist in such situations . What a selfish GD mongoloid asshole.Everytime he opens that septic tank lid he calls a mouth total sh*t flows out. Yet I know he is just compensating for his deep subconscious feelings of guilt,greed and selfishness with venom. He is on the ground floor of intelligence and is doomed to be strapped to the wheel of life eternally for his ignorance in this one.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:50 pmFolks get weary
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:53 pmAnd sick o’ tryin’
They’re tired o’ livin’
And scared o’ dyin’
But ole man river
He jes keep rollin’
Along
I wonder what would have happened if the people left behind in New Orleans were rich and white? I bet W would’ve been down there in no time to help out his buddies.
Instead, the poor and disabled minorities are left to their own devices. I thought people with more power were morally obligated to help those in less power. I know that isn’t true, but what will finally stir up people to the point of doing something about this nightmare?
I haven’t paid enough attention to the talking heads on television (I prefer to read from various sources and formulate my own opinions), but when will someone start calling this ‘Administration’ racist?
New Orleans looks like a Third World area, and what are we doing, the fattest and richest country in the world? Not enough. Just sad.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:54 pmI’m sure O’Reilly would feel exactly the same way if his house was sitting along the Gulf Coast. Easy to be a pundint for him comfortable New York studio.
September 2nd, 2005 at 11:58 pmSorry, your tax dollars are going to more important things like presidential golf vacations, bringing an Islamic theocracy to Iraq, and giving massive tax cuts to the poor poor billionaires that make the world go around. Come on, he’s gotta spend the “political capital” of this country somehow, and it sure the hell won’t be spent on those less fortunate. What? You don’t have a million dollars in the bank? I guess your vote just doesn’t count anymore. Its not election year anymore, suckers. But thank you, all you Values Voters that took a stand to say that preventing gay marriage was the most important issue in our country. You sure showed us what good old Southern values are all about.
September 3rd, 2005 at 12:01 amI read in the papers about the Freedom Train
I heard on the radio about the Freedom Train
I seen folks talking about the Freedom Train
Lord, I’ve been a-waitin for the Freedom Train!
September 3rd, 2005 at 1:07 amThe miserable worm is just repeating talking points. It’s a shameful, futile attempt to distract from the administration’s ineptitude. And it’s not working.
September 3rd, 2005 at 1:22 amGoes to show you:
Life is like a turd sandwich….THE MORE BREAD YOU HAVE, THE LESS SHIT YOU HAVE TO EAT!
I suppose life is good for rich perverts…. (o lielly, shrub, crash cart cheeney, kinda sleezy rice)
September 3rd, 2005 at 1:35 amOver two years ago, I wrote a long piece titled, “The Opt Out Society: The GOP Threat to National Unity and the American Social Contract.”
Now, two years later, with New Orleans in ruins, hundreds dead and thousands more at risk, we see the willful neglect of the Bush administration and the morally bankrupt conservative public philosophy behind it in the clear light of day.
For the full story, see:
“Compassionate Conservatism, RIP.”
September 3rd, 2005 at 1:38 amWhy would anyone be surprised by the insulting filth coming from this man, for him this is just typical.
September 3rd, 2005 at 7:02 amHis lack of compassion or understanding that these people are victims not just of the storm and the aftermath, but victims of our government and their lack of response is just his usual spin, straight from his so called no spin zone, you know all spin…. to the right which as usual is all wrong!!!
[...] According to Think Progress, this was one of Bill O’Reilly’s talking point memo’s last night. I couldn’t verify this on the FOX site. Moral of the story: People were warned to get out. Those who stayed paid a price for that decision. If you rely on the government, you’re likely to be disappointed. No government can protect you or provide for you. You have to do it yourself. If a Category 5 story is headed your way, get out fast. [...]
September 3rd, 2005 at 7:54 amI try not to respond to OReilly threads. I think he’s a shock jock with falling ratings.
But I would like to say this. We need to be contacting the Senate and Congress to let them know that empathizing with Bush will be a liability.
I have already written my congressman and senators(ALL REPUBLICAN).
The 5 day delay insured the deaths of countless people.
September 3rd, 2005 at 8:18 amThe 5 day delay in recovery is a reflection of our Homeland Security.
This problem is bigger than Iraq.
September 3rd, 2005 at 8:20 amThe Day of Reckoning will soon be upon us. These “Elites” will wake up one day with the hands of righteousness around their necks. The policies of conservatives that have created the worsening conditions of Class Warfare in our country will come back to haunt these people when the uprising comes. A storm is on the horizon, O’Lielly, and when it comes, YOU better heed the warning to get out. These people don’t think it can happen to them…wait and watch.
September 3rd, 2005 at 8:35 amBill “Draftdodger” O’Reilly has once again opened his mouth and offered some well thought out criticism directed against the poor people in this country. Hey, PAL, they didn’t have any cars or money to leave with. And how about those old people in wheelchairs and the bedridden elderly, PAL? And, hey, PAL, that wasn’t an evacation of Beverly Hills but of a population of mostly those living far below the minimum poverty levels in this country.
You’re about as clueless to what’s going on in the real world as the imbecile who sometimes occupies the whitehouse, PAL, so just shut the hell up and go find some staff member you can sexually harrass.
September 3rd, 2005 at 9:48 amI for one agree with O’Reilly. What a profound news man with such insight. Those poor people had no business living down there below sea level anyway.
But correct me if I’m wrong, Bill, but they don’t look like they are just hanging around down there on purpose if they could have “gotten out fast” as you put it. Maybe all those wheelchairs and beds for the infirm wouldn’t fit inside their Hummers.
September 3rd, 2005 at 9:58 amIt’s all about TV ratings, o’wrongly will say anything to get a rating rise, for more sponser money. I never watch fox….rating “0″. He has to be walking on land mines by doing this as it will come back to bite him on the ass. I’m sure he has plenty of $ by now and doesn’t give a damn. So he just toys with us.
September 3rd, 2005 at 10:26 amdon’t even think about responding to joe 6 brain cells.
September 3rd, 2005 at 10:28 amAfter O’Scumbag settled his sexual harrassment suit (which means he’s admitted that he was guilty) he said he has folks around him 24/7 so he always has a witness to his behavior. Bullshit, those folks are bodyguards. I bet he’s doubled up on personal security since then.
September 3rd, 2005 at 10:54 amHey Billy Boy O’Lielly! You better read the Gospel of Matthew Chapter 25, verses 41-46…Jesus is talking about you and your ilk. Change your attitude fast Billy Boy, because “you know not the day nor the hour…” and based on your rants…you ain’t gonna pass the final exam…”There will be a hot time in the ole town tonight!
September 3rd, 2005 at 11:21 amwisedup
Joe Sixpack is being sarcastic. All of his posts have two paragraphs. One that “agrees” and one that points out just how wrong agreeing is. hence finishing his post with “Maybe all those wheelchairs and beds for the infirm wouldn’t fit inside their Hummers.”
September 3rd, 2005 at 11:40 amConsidering most of the people who stayed couldn’t even afford a bus ticket let alone a hotel room somewhere – I would say that ‘price’ seems pretty unavoidable to a rational person… But then again I have ‘real’ compassion, not the crap the right wing is so filled with that only seems to cover those of their own ‘type’.
September 3rd, 2005 at 11:58 amThanks for the blurb, SpudgeBoy, but I’m afraid that as a right winger and redneck Republican, I have to agree with wisedup on the amount of brain cells I probably have.
But correct me if I’m wrong, but does that mean I have more brain cells than that I go along with here?
September 3rd, 2005 at 12:08 pmO’Reilly should spend 5 days in a stinking shelter with no food, water or toilet, no change of clothing, no bed, full of crying babies, sick people, and corpses. After that, he should be exiled to a third world country.
September 3rd, 2005 at 12:08 pmO’Rielly should lose his job for the assine things he has been saying. It was one thing for him to be a right wing lacky. It is another thing all together for him to be spewing this racist garbage.
September 3rd, 2005 at 12:11 pmYeah Marie and take away his sex toys too.
September 3rd, 2005 at 12:12 pmI hope that all voters who put this incompetent, clueless, elitist, self-centered ignoramus in office because he is opposed to stem cell research or gay marriage, or because he talks about Jesus, or because he talks like the guy next door, will think again. Even the guy next door might have been able to do a better job than this moron — an average guy might have realized he is in over his head long ago and resigned. Bush is dangerous.
September 3rd, 2005 at 12:13 pmRemember that the group who is rebuilding Iraq is this same group.
Susan will defend Clinton’s sexcapades to the end but now has to bring up BO’s. The liberal double standard. Friggin’ hypocrite.
September 3rd, 2005 at 12:26 pmNow is the time for us all to work on UN-FIXING these elections. I had to call 4 times to make sure I was regrestred. Each time I was told “Oh..let me fix that for you”…3 didn’t fix it, one finally did.
*joe sixpack has the right to speak his mind as all of us do. To just play games at a time like this is bad.”
September 3rd, 2005 at 12:28 pmSpudgeboy is trying to help, and we thank you.
I agree wisedup. Election fraud is still rampant. Some dems have managed to get 4 states to include recipts with your vote. In Illinois we still (at least in my precinct) use paper ballots.
The only way the pugs will be re-elected is by cheating so they know they must cheat. No normal thinking person in this country would elect a pug at this time.
September 3rd, 2005 at 1:15 pmI certainly agree with you, wisedup, that “playing games at a time like is bad.” If I didn’t know better I would think that was an O’Rielly line.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but as for Katrina, we should remember this: “Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned.”
Lighten up.
September 3rd, 2005 at 1:29 pmO’Reilly and “company” have always had a bad case of myopia. There is no prejudice in the U.S., our foreign policy is always right as long as it includes wars they delight in, the poor have only themselves to blame, the rich are entitled to more at the expense of the rest of the country, the government should be reduced to a conduit for money to flow to the military-industrial complex, compassion is something the government should not be involved with, civil and personal rights must always yield to the authority of those who have “higher” priorities, and now we discover that people who are so poor they can’t own cars or buy bus tickets should have started walking out of New Orleans when Hurrican Katrina was near West Africa. Bill O’Reilly is merely being exposed now for the ignoramus he has always been.
September 3rd, 2005 at 1:42 pm#10 I have never heard that adage before — how appropriate it is!!
September 3rd, 2005 at 2:00 pmI saw David Brooks (conservative columnist) on public TV (Leher). I could hardly believe he was angry and outraged at Bush. He has always defended the imbecile to a sickening degree, but he isn’t defending him now.
September 3rd, 2005 at 2:07 pmBill Maher interviewed Anderson Cooper, along with his panel of three — he quipped “it may be that the only shining moment in the entire disaster is that maybe we will get our media back.”
Most of the media (except most on Faux) are appalled and cannot help but show their disgust with Bush and the rescue efforts — I hope they don’t let this one go the way every other shameful event that has occurred under Bush.
Can you imagine a Democrat in this place today?
#30
Susan will defend Clinton’s sexcapades to the end but now has to bring up BO’s. The liberal double standard. Friggin’ hypocrite.
Comment by Rico Suave — September 3, 2005 @ 12:26 pm
So let me see if I get this right… sorry, straight… pointing out the Right Wing double standard is the “Liberal double standard?” Thanks, Rico! I needed a good laugh after this week…
September 3rd, 2005 at 2:17 pmRico Suave #30, that was a good take. You can tell by the way that Susan writes she defended Clinton’s sexcapades. Don’t you just hate a friggin’ hypocrite?
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but wasn’t Bill O’Really trying to get into one of his staff members pants? I mean, I’m on your side and I like the slick way you threw in a reference to Clinton. Just between you and me, I bet you picked up that trick from Ham Hannity on his radio program.
September 3rd, 2005 at 2:53 pm“The lady doth protest too much.”
That’s the bush bashing posters at this site by and large.
George Bush hasn’t done the job.
He’s an asshole
He’s scum
He has shit spewing out of his mouth
and on and on
It’s sickening. I’ll power barf all day and all night.
the bush bashers make me sick.
It doesn’t belong here and I don’t know why it continues. It’s stupid. Old Adams quarrelling about what somebody supposedly has done wrong.
We’re humans. We make mistakes.
there are 36 thousand traffic deaths each and every year in America. The public outcry should be: “This is America. It shouldn’t happen here.”
However, it does.
There are 15 thousand murders each year in America. The hue and cry should be: “That shouldn’t happen here. This is America.”
We can blame George Bush, the Higway Traffic Safety Administration for that, too.
Blame George Bush for everything that has gone wrong in America since his birth.
I’m stupid. I’m the first to admit it. I make dumb mistakes all of the time. However, I must pay for them and move on.
The bush bashers don’t know when to quit.
O’Reilly has an ego as big as a hot air balloon.
It doesn’t matter what the subject, as long as attention is paid to him, he’s happy.
He can find a different way and so can the bush bashers. help out, don’t be a burden. It’s the least you can do.
Start by being human beings instead of infantilely regressed babies. good Lord
The empire is falling from within. It should be blatantly apparent by now. Crushed by its own weight.
Bush bashing is bread and circus. All bunkum and bosh.
The foreseeable American Oil Famine might end up like the Irish Potato Famine.
The chickens have come home to roost. Fifteen years of bombing Iraq and two wars has paybacks. This time, the blowback is for real.
September 3rd, 2005 at 3:09 pmSo what’s your point?
September 3rd, 2005 at 3:24 pmI think Ron is trying to say something – but I don’t know what it is – he seems muffled.
September 3rd, 2005 at 3:32 pmBill O ‘Reilly’s comments are right in line with conservative Monday-morning Quarterback-style morality. “you’re poor and black? well I guess you should have thought about that before decided to have poor black parents!” George Lakoff writes about the basis of this view of the universe in his book _Moral Politics_. I understand where this attitude comes from but it’s still total BS. But I guess his cynical Reagonite attitude about “you can’t trust the government” has been borne out. I’m not cynical enough to suggest that this is by design, but this type of rhetoric is chillingly self-fulfilling. I suppose it’s much easier to make it a reality that you can’t trust the goverment to help you out by, well, making it impossible for the government to help you out! This type of conservative philosophy assumes that people can and should be totally, 100% percent self-sufficient. I don’t think civilized society would ever have developed as it has if most people through the ages shared those attitudes. And from my admittedly limited reading of Adam Smith, I think it’s an extreme perversion of that philosophy. Anyway, I guess this is my “that’s why I’m a liberal” statement :) peace yawl.
September 3rd, 2005 at 3:45 pmbush bashers, keep shooting yourselves in the foot.
When the plug was pulled on Terry Schiavo, everybody here said it was ok. She was brain-dead and was living a life not worth living.
“The unexamined life is not worth living.” – Socrates
Take a look at yourselves and my words aren’t so muffled.
Get the point?
Or, are you all brain-dead? It looks like it from here. stupid old Adams.
September 3rd, 2005 at 4:28 pmDid someone get a message from a troll? Is he trying to communicate?
September 3rd, 2005 at 5:37 pmRon,
Socrates said a lot. He still owes me some hens.
A.
September 4th, 2005 at 4:49 pm“I wonder what would have happened if the people left behind in New Orleans were rich and white?”
That’s a good question Dave. As a rich (by Hillary’s standards) White guy I can tell you what would happen. The laws of physics would still apply. Water would rise and people would die. What wouldn’t happen is the looting, the murder, the rapes and the general “jungle” mentality that gripped New Orleans THE VERY DAY THE STORM HIT. Bill Whittle says it pretty well;
“Only a few minutes ago, I had the delightful opportunity to read the comment of a fellow who said he wished that white, middle-class, racist, conservative cocksuckers like myself could have been herded into the Superdome Concentration Camp to see how much we like it. Absent, of course, was the fundamental truth of what he plainly does not have the eyes or the imagination to see, namely, that if the Superdome had been filled with white, middle-class, racist, conservative cocksuckers like myself, it would not have been a refinery of horror, but rather a citadel of hope and order and restraint and compassion.”
Read the rest then continue your seething and whining. Loser.
http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000129.html
September 6th, 2005 at 11:04 am[...] • Bill O’Reilly makes a characteristic effort to understand the plight of the poor: Moral of the story: People were warned to get out. Those who stayed paid a price for that decision. If you rely on the government, you’re likely to be disappointed. No government can protect you or provide for you. You have to do it yourself. [...]
September 7th, 2005 at 5:00 am[...] In a weekend interview, Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) said Hurricane Katrina victims who stayed behind may need to need to be subject to greater penalties than they are already experiencing. Santorum said, “There may be a need to look at tougher penalties on those who decide to ride it out and understand that there are consequences to not leaving.” Santorum failed to understand that many who stayed behind lacked "a car or bus fare to escape ahead of time." Yesterday, Santorum amended his proposal for tougher penalties, suggesting those who lacked cars or other resources would be exempt. Santorum’s lack of compassion for hurricane victims is the latest in a line that has come from right-wingers, including Bill O’Reilly, Dennis Hastert, Michael Chertoff, and Michael Brown. [...]
September 7th, 2005 at 12:31 pmI blame Mother Nature…
September 7th, 2005 at 7:51 pm“What wouldn’t happen is the looting, the murder, the rapes and the general “jungle†mentality that gripped New Orleans THE VERY DAY THE STORM HIT.”
Interesting. I find it endlessly fascinating to see people sitting in air conditioned comfort thousands of miles away from the situation congratulating themselves online for what they wouldn’t have done if they had been in New Orleans, what with their basic moral human superiority and all. And I have to agree-most probably wouldn’t have looted a thing. Why not? Because MOST PEOPLE DON’T LOOT, MURDER, RAPE OR HAVE A ‘JUNGLE MENTALITY’. But sadly, some do. That is why they have jails all over the world, because some human beings cannot live with the general population in peace. Not everyone in New Orleans looted, raped, murdered-but some did. It wasn’t all of the thousands sitting on rooftops-but it was some. It wasn’t all of the thousands in the Dome, or at the Convention Center-but it was some. It’s part of the human condition. It’s not right, it shouldn’t be-but it is. And to act outraged and surprised that out of thousands upon thousands of human beings, some are thugs, murderers, rapists, thieves, and worse, is self-delusion in the extreme. Consider that the history of this country, and the history of the South in particular, is filled with innumerable examples of mankind’s inhumanity to his fellow man. And we also know that not all Southeners lynched, murdered, burned, raped, and brutalized their fellow human beings. Some did-there are pictures of them posing with big smiles around the burned, tortured bodies. There are written confessions from some of the perpetrators. But in 2005, we know better than to judge an entire group of people by the reprehensible actions of a small percentage of the larger group. At least most of us do.
September 7th, 2005 at 9:14 pmThank you soolin.
September 7th, 2005 at 10:30 pmsoolin: Beautiful. Thank you for responding so very well to a repugnant, bigoted, ignorant, racist, filthy post. I couldn’t have been so erudite, choking as I was on rage.
September 8th, 2005 at 9:07 pmHe is completely right. None of this NYT BULLSH*T about people not being wealthy enough to afford a damn bus ticket. The funny thing about America is, that even the poorest of the poor are living pretty decently compared to the world standard. All of those families had 1 or 2 hundred dollars. They HAD IT. DONT PRETEND THEY HAD NO CASH WHATSOEVER. They feed themselves right? Buy clothing, rent. etc. They instead decided not to spend the money and wait it out in their homes. I may have made the same decision as them, poor or not poor. They wanted to be next to their belonging because they knew there would be looting. They made the decision to stay and are now paying the price. Not to say I dont feel horrible for them, but they COULD have left if they had wanted to.
September 15th, 2005 at 11:18 pmdo you whant to have sex with me
October 15th, 2005 at 5:38 amO’Rielly is a strange and dangerous man. He recently called for terrorist attacks on San Francisco. I am one who believes strongly in Free Speach (but for those lawyers out there) would not this sort of comment be out of bounds – meaning a federal offence. It is surely against the law in insite violence in one’s own neighborhood. It seems logical that the same applies for the world. Peace.
November 14th, 2005 at 1:33 amI just read all 55 of these comments and was confused that nobody seemed to get the point he was making about the government (Bush’s government) failure and inability to help these people, and that no matter who you, you better not be relying on the govt to help you. I could analyze everyone of the 55 comments and exploit one word into a different agenda, but there is no credible discussion or argument going here.
November 16th, 2005 at 4:42 amI just read all 55 of these comments and was confused that nobody seemed to get the point he was making about the government (Bush’s government) failure and inability to help these people, and that no matter who you, you better not be relying on the govt to help you. I could analyze everyone of the 55 comments and exploit one word in each one into a different agenda, but there is no credible discussion or argument going here about O’Reilly’s comments. This vitriol hateful exchange is a life of its own, and only seems to reflect the ideology of hate that is being critisized.
November 16th, 2005 at 4:47 amif life is so bad for the poor in america ,then leave!
December 4th, 2005 at 2:49 pm