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President Bush Diverts Critical Resources For Photo-Op

Red Helicopter

Why are these helicopters being used as a backdrop for President Bush, instead of assisting the victims of Hurricane Katrina?

Why are members of the Coast Guard being used as a backdrop for Bush’s press conference? Don’t they have more important things to do?



486 Responses to “President Bush Diverts Critical Resources For Photo-Op”

  1. Anne says:

    I knew his trip to the disaster zone would be just another photo opt, almost a week late.


  2. Brian says:

    F*CKING PIECE OF SH*T PHOTO OP?!?!?!?!?!?
    Congratulating each other????????


  3. Brian says:

    I WANT TO SEE THE PICTURES OF:

    Bush playing guitar.
    Bush eating cake.
    Bush giving self promoting speeches.

    With the backdrop of dying people in the streets.
    I want to see the timeline!!!!!!!!


  4. progressive and proud says:

    May he burn in the hell that he creates. Historically, he will not be remembered kindly. He will have no memorials in his name and there will be no airport for this joker. People are wising up – he was a big mistake.


  5. Zookeeper says:

    Get on it you f*cking sh*theel! Give the Coast Guard members behind you the order to take off immediately. Do it!


  6. Spudge-Boy says:

    This guy is a f*king moron. If the chain of events happening right now don’t get his ass impeached, I don’t know what will.

    In the Diane Sawyer interview, when asked about the National Gaurd being in Iraq, Bush said “We have enough resources to do two things at once.” This moron can’t even count. We are fighting in Iraq, Afganastan and now Katrina. THAT IS THREE THINGS.


  7. Oliver Willis » The PR Offensive says:

    [...] UPDATE: Those photo-op helicopters could have been used to save lives in New Orleans. [...]


  8. BUSH LUVER says:

    LIBERAL LIES! WITH ALL YOUR HATREDS OF GODS AND KUNTRY AND OUR PRESIDENT HE NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED!


  9. Citizen80203 says:

    Wrong on so many levels. How many lives could have been saved by these helicopters? How many supplies delivered? How much hope to the people on the ground seeing them flying in?

    A real leader does not need backdrops. Hell, a real man doesn’t want backdrops or codpieces.


  10. Brian Smith says:

    Remember, Bush physically can’t appear in public without military personnel in the background!


  11. Darth Filibustrous says:

    But… didn’t Bush say the initial results were “not acceptable” ? So if he’s congratulating the Coast Guard, who is he blaming for the unacceptable results? FEMA? The National Guard for being in Iraq? Himself?

    Someone help, I’m confused.


  12. Nanashi says:

    NO MORE PRESS CONFERENCES. RAY NAGIN FOR PRESIDENT


  13. Electric-Escape.net says:

    Stuff You Should Read

    “Why are these helicopters being used as a backdrop for President Bush, instead of assisting the victims of Hurricane Katrina?”


  14. I Hate Bush Luver says:

    Go Eat a baby, Bush Luver. There are plenty of dead ones down in NOLA now that your asshat president played the guitar instead of coordinating relief efforts.


  15. Ron says:

    What do you want him to do? Start flipping burgers for everybody?

    Some displaced Louisiana citizens want beer and weed.


  16. Brian says:

    DO NOT RESPOND TO RON
    DO NOT RESPOND TO RON
    DO NOT RESPOND TO RON
    DO NOT RESPOND TO RON
    DO NOT RESPOND TO RON


  17. Neo-progressive says:

    Ron,

    You are a nasty, evil, creature. You don’t qualify as a member of the human race. A pox on you!


  18. Ian says:

    “Remember, Bush physically can’t appear in public without military personnel in the background!”

    Because he’d be lynched by everyone suffering in the streets. I’d like to see him go to the Convention Center in New Orleans where they haven’t received any significant aid in four days, and see what happens. I don’t think he would be greeted too kindly.


  19. Ron says:

    You bush bashers are in hell already. The pox has fallen upon you all.

    George Bush is a human being, too.

    You people are total nitwits. Meines Gott im Himmelstein.


  20. Andrew says:

    And still as always the smirk on his face. What was with all the patting each other on the back? COME ON! Get on with the life saving! “Culture of Life” and all…


  21. Ian says:

    If I’m going to hell for criticizing someone who obviously does not care for the poor, sick, and elderly in this country, so be it.


  22. Blue Demon says:

    If you actually saw this press conference, it was basically a big circle jerk for Bush with idiots like Haley Barbour telling Dear Leader what a geat job he was doing.


  23. Pere Ubu says:

    Bush is a human being?

    I think we’ve got more than enough evidence to the contrary this week.

    I’m not willing to admit I’m even the same species as that thing occupying the White House.


  24. Bill says:

    Can we call this God’s “Shock & Awe”? What happened to Homeland security people? God forbid if there is another terrorist attack, can we count on these clowns?


  25. Not Ron says:

    George Bush is a human being, too.

    PROVE IT.


  26. 3rdman says:

    #19 is a good example of why this site simply needs to delete trolling posts. Ron’s post contains nothing constructive and is simply an attempt to steer conversation away from the actual topic with personal attacks and irrelevant information.

    The one amusing thing to consider with all of this is how Clinton would have been treated had he handled a disaster like this…Congress would have begun impeachment hearings immediately.

    Also, I would say in the face of this disaster, its also important to remember the situation in Sudan where *millions* have been undergoing just as horrible a situation for months and months. President Bush was just as negligent with Sudan, its no surprise he doesn’t seem to care for the people in this disaster either.


  27. Mark says:

    ” KUNTRY ” – your freudian slip is showing dear.


  28. Mack MacKenzie says:

    DUH-bya gives new meaning to the phrase “BUSH LEAGUE”. This guy hasn’t got a clue.


  29. Dave Hoffer says:

    Ron needs to volunteer for duty in Iraq. Maybe he’ll get his head on straight there!


  30. Groove:30 » New Orleans: Day 5 says:

    [...] President Bush Diverts Critical Resources For Photo-Op Topic: Familia · by Injun Joe – 09.2.05 @ 10:34 – [...]


  31. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    Please, someone, remove Bush the Idiot and all his boys/girls. Get someone with real leadership in there to do the job right! Whoever posted (many posts back) that Bush is all “hat” and no “cattle” hit the nail on the head so very hard.

    Impeach Bush. NOW!


  32. Russ Ruszkowski says:

    Bush Doctrine: “It’s easier to LOOK like you’re doing something than to actually DO something.”


  33. Peter Van P says:

    Damn, no mission accomplished sign…


  34. Ron says:

    As long as I agree with everyone bashing Bush all of the time, it will be a backslapping good time. If I criticize someone for doing so, I’ve got shit for brains.

    uff da

    this place is thinkprogressive, unfortunately, the majority of the posters haven’t a clue about that.

    nitwits


  35. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    Damn, I wanted to see Condi in her new shoes.


  36. Steve says:

    Worst President Ever.

    What a fricken embarassment to every citizen, republican and democrat alike.


  37. AbuJ says:

    Wow… What a cocksucker.

    This is the result of having our National Guard in Iraq instead of… you know… guarding the nation.


  38. Karl Rove says:

    Actually, the Swamp Boat Vets for Truth have written a book outing all LA politicians as bribe-taking wimps who have shirked their duty for years. This disaster is all their fault. Stay tuned — the Swamp Boat Vets ads will be appearing on TV over the weekend and they will be guests on Hannity and Colmes, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly’s shows next week.


  39. steve duncan says:

    C’mon people, he’s got his sleeves rolled up!! Can’t you see the man is ready for some “hard work”?


  40. WaltTheMan says:

    Re: 19
    They just decoded the chimp genome. Should W offer a DNA sample and settle this once and for ever?


  41. Dave says:

    “this place is thinkprogressive, unfortunately, the majority of the posters haven’t a clue about that.”

    That’s progressive not regressive!

    As far as the “bushies” go – this country had it’s chance to rid itself of this embarassment, but was tricked into another four more years by the “lemmingesque” campaign of the right. We deserve what we got!


  42. WaltTheMan says:

    Where’s the turkey in that photo? Aha! It the one in the white shirt.


  43. Ron says:

    #25, are you blind? It’s the blind leading the dumb.

    New Orleans is in total breakdown. It’s as helpless as it can get.


  44. annefrank says:

    You gotta see this!! especially Brian.

    http://thanksalot.ytmnd.com/


  45. zonk says:

    Leo Amery’s farewell to Neville Chamberlain when he resigned in shame in 1940 are just too apt not to post:

    “You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go ! “


  46. beachboy says:

    Mission Accomplished !!!


  47. Tony says:

    Nanashi – Nagin for president. You’ve got to be kidding.

    New Orleans, before Katrina, was a cesspool of crime. High murder rate, tons of gangs, etc. Maybe he should have dealt with the crime problem during his term–then rescuers wouldn’t have had to STOP RELIEF EFFORTS because of looters, people shooting at hospitals and helicopters, roving gangs of criminals, etc.

    Nagin has blood on his hands.

    Maybe Nagin could have actually done more with the evacuation. He’s mad because no one is giving him buses. Why didn’t he attempt to procure buses before the storm to bus people out before the storm hit? Even half hour away and they’d be safe. But no.

    And P.S.–no shock that this is turning into another Bush hate fest.


  48. Citizen80203 says:

    Ron fishy fishy fishy, where has your fish gone. We smell your rot fishboy.


  49. Left in the West » Blog Archive » Ouch says:

    [...] See, the mere appearance of leadership can be enough when all you’re dealing with is the appearance of a problem. I think most Americans would feel much more assured these days if we weren’t seeing our President or other Administration members because they’re working non-stop. Instead, they’re smiling for the cameras. Worse, they may be holding back assets to do it.   [link] [...]


  50. Ron says:

    It would be more progressive if the bush bashing would stop. It would be most progressive if the bush bashers here would just leave this site. that would be a great improvement for this site.

    Bush bashers, leave now, please.


  51. Jamie says:

    I watched this news conference live and thought the exact same thing. The same question went through my mind last night when I heard Senator Thad Cochran of Mississippi talk about flying over the region in a Coast Gaurd helicopter so he could see the damage first hand.

    We are wasting valuable resources for these politicians. It is costing lives and is totally unacceptable.

    Jamie
    http://intoxination.blogspot.com


  52. Marie says:

    We should be comforted in knowing that the home of Trent Lott is going to be rebuilt and Bush is looking forward to sitting on the porch.
    What the hell is he doing in a hangar getting info he could have gotten on the phone? The man is a useless POS and if he doesn’t step down, he must be impeached. Don’t we all have reason engough haven’t we seen enough of his incompetence and the incompetence of the “friends and donors” he has put in charge of crucial operations? We thought his father was out of touch — this is beyond the pale.
    He’s useless.
    Cheney is still in Wyoming, planning a fund raiser.
    Rice is shopping at Farragamo
    Rove is having an anti-peace photo op with Sheehan objectors.
    What the hell is wrong with them? Anyone who voted for this moron because they thought he was a guy they could have a beer with ought not only to be having second thoughts, but should be looking at ways to oust him from office.


  53. Marie says:

    Brian’s right — DO NOT RESPOND TO RON


  54. J says:

    Don’t we all feel soooo much safer with this “cocky little creep” for a leader? Impeach this guy!


  55. Impishparrot says:

    It’s all about ME. ME ME ME! HE HE


  56. EasyRider says:

    Well in case you have not seen it on CNN and FOX the military convoy just went pass the groups of people at the convention center and the Superdome. They are staging a photo-op and not passing out the supplies.

    While lines of buses sit near-by and not loading the people for removal from the area.

    Why don’t they tell the peole to walk over to the buses and get out of New Orleans?

    Who came up with this photo-op for the president?

    Funny that this could not be done earlier in the week and just happens to arrive in the site when to president arrives in the area for his photo-op.


  57. R. Megeddon says:

    Troops are now in New Orleans. The shooting, looting,raping gangs can down be driven into the Gulf of Mexico and be rid of the bastards.


  58. J says:

    And why were his sleeves rolled up?
    Jesus help us all!


  59. wisedup says:

    Photo caption:….”are we done here, these sleeves are killing me”


  60. Jennifer Palmieri says:

    This Administration never ceases to amaze me.

    I worked in the Clinton White House for 8 years. We saw many disasters — Oklahoma City, earthquakes in Los Angeles, floods in North Dakota, tornadoes in Arksanas, hurricanes in Florida, hurricanes and floods in North Carolina and on and on.

    President Clinton excelled in his role as “consoler in chief.” But more importantly, he excelled at running a government that consistently provided expeditious relief to victims of disasters. James Lee Witt brought a level of excellence and professionalism to FEMA that should be a model for all government agencies.

    President Bush, by contrast, seems to think his responsibility in this disaster begins and ends with a photo op.

    With all due respect to the office of the President, the people of Louisiana don’t need to see President Bush — they need to see some food and shelter.

    The White House’s use of a helicopter and Coast Guard personnel for a photo op shows a stunning lack of judgement. Bush cannot “photo-op” his way out of this problem. He needs to govern.

    When disaster hit a part of America, President Clinton was always eager to visit the victims. But he would never, ever attempt a trip until James Lee Witt gave the White House the okay that a Presidential trip would not affect recovery efforts.

    Presidential trips are a huge resource drain on local and federal law enforcement. It is inconceivable to me that President Bush’s trip today is not impeding recovery and relief efforts. It is inconceivable.
    And unconscienable.

    President Bush and his officials should get themselves off the television and on the job.


  61. Marie says:

    Nagin is stating the truth – he’s there. He appears to be an honest, compassionate, frustrated man.


  62. $hrub says:

    “Did ya get my good side and the copters in the back?”
    “Now you good folks go help some folks”

    Bash hard and bash often.


  63. Blue and Clammy says:

    When will Bush declare that we need to bomb Iran to help protect our coasts from hurricanes?


  64. Jealous of Jeff says:

    Caption Contest: “You know, aa’ve learned a lot this last week from this here hurry-cane. Black people really can swim, I could see them from maa Air Force One jet the other day”


  65. Andrew says:

    I thought I saw Rove walk in front of the camera while CNN waited for the prez to walk onto the stage, i mean hangar. I saw that huge helicopter just sitting there and i thought “They should really get that chopper fixed so it can go out there and snatch somebody off a roof!” and then I realized it wasn’t broken and another little piece of me died inside.

    And what’s with W leaning to one side while he talks? It really makes me uncomfortable to watch him talk now. I just want to grab him by the shoulders and stand him up straight.


  66. Marie says:

    Zonk, let’s hope history repeats itself and we can say those words to the boy king as soon as possible.


  67. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    #60 – Amen! You said what I’ve been feeling for many years. Clinton rocked! Bush sucks (on Gannon, probably).


  68. Anne says:

    Where’s Dick Cheney? Anyone seen or heard from him through all of this?



  69. Andrew says:

    He’s still on vacation in WYOMING! I heard he’s having researchers finish his conversion into a cyborg…


  70. R. Megeddon says:

    The National Guard will open fire on the armed street gangs. The sooner the better.


  71. Concerned Conservative says:

    In this time of tragedy, I thought that the Bush-bashing on this site would lighten up in favor of efforts to rally donations for the NOLA victims.

    But apparently I’m wrong.


  72. shaggy says:

    Is that a banana I see in W’s hand that is cut from the photo? Walkin’ like a monkey.


  73. Marie says:

    Bush is on the way! A photo op in the making! Stand aside! Let those troops and buses make a nice advance parade before the boy king shows up.


  74. Kathryn Kuchenbrod says:

    Call the White House and tell them how you think the smirking chimp is doing. I did.

    202.456.1111


  75. Ron says:

    What a bunch of sick so-called ‘humans’ at this site. You’re a disgrace to humanity yourselves. dolts


  76. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    #60 – Clinton did a great job in Somalia. Bang up job in Waco and I especially liked when you guys put a gun in Elian’s face.

    And Ms. Palmiero – if President Clinton and other Democrats’ interest in the inner city community extended beyond election day, maybe we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place. You are hypocrite and should shut your mouth.


  77. Brian says:

    HOMELAND SECURITY IS A SHAM
    HOMELAND SECURITY IS A SHAM
    HOMELAND SECURITY IS A SHAM
    HOMELAND SECURITY IS A SHAM
    HOMELAND SECURITY IS A SHAM
    HOMELAND SECURITY IS A SHAM


  78. Marie says:

    #72
    We have all donated – not that we need to answer to you. When you cannot defend your boy king, you deride those of us who tried to alert the rest of you what a fool you were electing. When will you admit he is a natural disaster?


  79. Terrytheturtle says:

    CC,

    Dubya cut funds for the shoring up of the levees to fund Iraq, he installed a ‘Caligula’s Horse’ as FEMA director, he went on TV and lied about not expecting the levees to break. This unfolding disaster could have been anticipated and handled much better. The blame rests with Chimpy. So bash hard and bash often, Caligula needs to go…


  80. W is a Donkey says:

    This is just another exaple of compassionate conservatism at its very finest….


  81. EasyRider says:

    Where are the supplies?

    Are the all the buses being loaded?

    Why are they waiting?


  82. Andrew says:

    PHOTO-OP IN PROGRESS! Now he has an arm around a teen-age girl and the girl’s mom is crying about not having any clothes and Shrub says “We’ll get you some food at the salvation army.”

    Everytime he touches one of them the shutters start clicking away.


  83. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    #79 – Caligula is an excellent comparison. The only thing missing is the selling of the senator’s wives into the whore house so that we can balance the budget.


  84. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    Marie – SHUT UP! You are such an idiot and you don’t even realize it. You would be foaming at the mouth if the President DIDN’T go down there. We tried to warn you that your hatred would continue to cost you politically, but you didn’t listen to us either.


  85. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    #84 – Caligula was Clinton, asswipe.


  86. wisedup says:

    scrappppppppppp…that’s the sound of me dragging ron down to NO. to help out….


  87. doesn't matter says:

    >But apparently I’m wrong.

    Well, why does that surprise you? You were no doubt wrong about the tax cuts, wrong about Messopotamia, wrong about SS, wrong about energy policy, and a bunch of other things but mostly you were completely wrong about WHO SHOULD BE PRESIDENT.

    Aren’t you used to it, yet?

    Because, even if you are a small-c conservative, you got the guy who is going to Arbusto your whole movement, thowing out the baby with the bathwater.

    Serves you right.


  88. GDM says:

    I guess when Bush heard about the hurricane coming he said, “Bring it on”.


  89. Ron says:

    At least he is there consoling some of the victims. You (bush bashers) are here to rake him over the coals. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. You’re worse than chimpanzees.


  90. Concerned Conservative says:

    So when hurricane Andrew devastated southern Florida, that was the fault of Bush senior, right? I mean, he could have erected monstrous wind barriers with the money he spent on the Gulf War.


  91. deegahl says:

    I am sure another has already asked this…..WHERE IS THE ‘MISSION ACCOMPLISHED’ BANNER?

    They are even getting worse at their orwellian phot ops! Well, atleast Trent Lott’s new house will be grand and Bush can sit on his porch and talk about how he “starved the beast”.


  92. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    NED – SHUT UP! You are such an idiot and you don’t even realize it. You worship the President no matter what. We tried to warn you that your hatred, bumbling, mishandling, and misleading will continue to cost you politically, but you won’t listen to us either.

    Impeach Bush. NOW! And make sure there is a paper trail come next election.


  93. deegahl says:

    #90: Or Bush 41 could have done what Bush 43 did last year. Which was actually help the people. Atleast we have a few GOP’ers who can admit that nothing is good about this situation. Nothing!


  94. lower tiberius says:

    Clinton is and was a human being …he’d have prepared for this disaster and had the appropriate responses in place not to mention he’d have allocated the funding and then made sure it got to the Corp Of Engineers to do the major surgery New Orleans was in dire need of long before this hurricane hit. another example of a non-accountable jerk in reactive defense of an incompetent blunder ..the boy needs a bag of Pretzels and a time out.


  95. Andrew says:

    It’s not that he’s there comforting them. It’s that while these people he’s hugging were sifting through rubble and going without food, water and shelter he was playing golf and recieving guitars as gifts. Condi was buying shoes and going to Broadway, Cheney is on vacation and then going to Canada to look at tar pits and the world sees how much “compassion” the “compassionate” conservative leader is really capable of.


  96. $hrub says:

    We’re on the way Titanic passengers! Still no National Guard in the city of NO.


  97. Ron says:

    Clinton a human being? Tell that to Hillary.


  98. Diverting resources to look busy at Political Forecast says:

    [...] What an asshole. Instead of letting the Coast Guard and FEMA do what they need to do, President Bush commandeered a chopper and some folks to be the back-drop for a photo op. Think Progress has the photo.   #     [...]


  99. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    #95 – Clinton had eight years to do something to. Please shut up and try being human yourself. Wait at least 10 minutes to get your cheap politial shot in.


  100. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    It cracks me up. Repugs don’t know a decent human being when they see/hear one.

    Maybe they’ve developed some special reaction signalling system that causes them to foam at the mouth whenever they come across a decent human? :-)

    You should see what they behave like when they encounter the vilest scum on the planet. Wow. You’d think it was some worship ritual, complete with sacrifice! :-(


  101. deegahl says:

    95: That is just it, these Orwellian phrases that the GOP use are lapped up like pancakes by NED and RON and the other sheep who support the SMALL GOV. group However, the world is now seeing the ‘Compassionate Conservitive’s’ idea of a ‘Culture of Life’ and what happens when their ‘Clean Skys’ initiatives go bad!

    But they did get one thing right: (Repubican) “Government is not the solution. (Republican) Government is the problem.”


  102. Ron says:

    JCGOW, go turn some water into wine and quitcher whining.


  103. Concerned Conservative says:

    Yeah, this photo really looks staged — look how good Bush looks. You can just hear them getting ready for this… “That’s it Mr. President, now lean a little to your right — that’s right, now hang your arms down — right, like a chimp! OK, that’s a wrap. Let’s send this over to TP and Daily Kos pronto!”

    You want to see photo ops — check out Cindy Sheehan.


  104. WaltTheMan says:

    Bush’s lack of response before and immediately after Katrina hit got Iraq off of the front pages. Did Karl plan it that way?


  105. Joe Sixpack says:

    Good Post at #84 and #85, NED. I especially liked the way you called Maria an asswipe. That was a class act. That bitch has the gall to throw in her 2 cents worth against our bud, Concerned Conservative at #72, huh?

    But correct me if I’m wrong, but shouldn’t you have mentioned “Gore” or “Kerry” instead of Clinton being like Caligula? That would have been the way Spam Hannity would have done it. Keep up the good work for our side, guy!


  106. Leaving Only Footprints » Blog Archive » Hurricane Katrina Leadership: Where Are They Now? says:

    [...] President Bush is touring around the country giving speeches about how everything is under control while diverting critical resources for photo-ops, like helicopters and members of the Coast Guard. [...]


  107. Stephanie says:

    They do have better things to do but our Commander in Cheif needs to feel important and heroic, even though he is about 5 days too late.


  108. Brian says:

    George Bush was PLAYING GUITAR IN A PHOTO OP WHEN THE CITY WAS FILLING WITH WATER.


  109. progressive and proud says:

    I agree with Marie and the others who think we should just not respond to such idiocy. They were all fired up happy and trying to debate at first, but Bushco’s quick slip in polls and into insignificance has made them really scared. They hear chatter from moderate repubs and now they call them names. Soon no one will buy the bullshit and they will change their tune. But not until they feel that the masses agree. They need others to agree with them for their feelings of significance. It is tragically pathological textbook. As if they would not have bashed Clinton if this happened on his watch (which it didn’t). They know they would have done just that and it shows their character that they are lying now about it. Like toddlers, ignoring them hurts them worse than calling them out. They just want attention and the redcoats are freaking out because they bought into Bushco’s ridiculous non-plan for the country.

    They say stop bashing Bush – why? Can I not hate the president and still serve this country as a loyal and productive citizen? Of course I can, their argument is moot. Don’t reply, indeed. We should talk about them amongst each other and not reply directly to them. Besides, they never have anything new or productive to say. They are just Bush basher bashers; which makes them hypocrites.


  110. wisedup says:

    us taxpayers own the oil reserves,we’ve already paid for them, so they should be FREE….right?…watch and see.
    NED,ron and the others are just loving trying to get a rise out of us..DO NOT NOT RESPOND….silence is golden.


  111. cynical ex-hippie says:

    I wish the folks at redstate.org would explain how criticising the president hampers rescue efforts.


  112. Esques says:

    I am involved in horse industry matters, and remember Mike Brown well from his days as legal Commissioner for the International Arabian Horse Association in Colorado. He wasn’t a very good “horse lawyer” either. Got them into a lot of legal trouble — almost bankrupted them. What kind of imbecile would appoint this incompetent, with absolutely no emergency management background, to become head of FEMA especially in a post 9/11 world? We all know the answer. Its a disgrace.


  113. Dumb Fox says:

    Ned, baby, chill out. All right.

    I know you take all this Bush-bashing personally, but let’s think it through. When Katrina loomed, Bush vacationed. When Katrina struck, Bush was fundraising and playing air guitar. When NO sunk, Bush scooted back to the White House to find out no-one new what the hell was going on. When Bush got panned for his shocking speech, he dropped in for a photo op.

    When Bush does something constructive, we’ll back off. Otherwise, buddy, suck it up. Your hero in the White House is being found out. Again. But this time the public are giving it to him.


  114. Keith H. says:

    I have these recurring images of about 100,000 very large, very angry black guys decending on the White House just as soon as they get out of NO.


  115. Massachusetts Liberal says:

    Tony & Ron whine pathetically about Bush bashing. What did they call it when they & their fascist press slimed Kerry as a babykiller and a coward? Oh, I remember, they called it “truth”. Funny, isn’t it? (Do you really think all of his military records are false?)

    Here Ron, and I mean this sincerely: Bush is doing the best he can. AND YOU VOTED FOR HIM.


  116. Ron says:

    Why am I an idiot?


  117. Dartanyon says:

    Put the monkey back in its cage. It’s mean to dress up an ape in a man’s shirt and slacks.


  118. delen says:

    Ron and Ned are right Mr Bush scrambled Airforce ! and It ws just a mere 48 hours before he flew real, real low over NOLA and another 48 hours before he went in person to see his policy of Social Darwi—oops can’t use the D word, I mean Compassionate Conservatism in action.

    And besides Ron Ned haven’t had their meds yet. Come on boys got your Concerta and Thorazine right here.


  119. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    The hypocrites will never see it. But…

    Bush == Caligula (complete with the likes of Gannon)
    Cheney == “The Man Behind the Curtain” in Oz
    Dumsfled == Goebbels wannabe
    Rice == Wicked Witch of the West

    … and so it goes. This is the worse cast of characters this nation has seen in a very very long time.

    Yet those who support this group of idiots refuse to see how the public treasury has been robbed, how their own children are dying in places they should have never been sent, and how they idiots have failed to prepare aid for those in need. The government should be there to serve and aid, not to lie and steal.


  120. Terrytheturtle says:

    “Wait at least 10 minutes to get your cheap politial shot in.” says Ned. After he calls me an ‘asswipe’. OK Neddy I’ve waited for ten minutes:

    Are you still putting hate speech about Cindy Sheehan on your website, calling for her to be terminated like Terri Schiavo?


  121. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    #114 – yawn…. He’s already been found out and that’s why he was re-elected with 51% of the vote.


  122. Lisa says:

    NED,

    I was waiting for you to blame CLinton for this! Instead of wasting our time calling names and playing the blame game – really think hard about what this so-called “leader” has done for the devastated victims of Hurricane Katrina! Where are the National Guard? Why are people dying at the Convention Center and at the Superdome? This is the United States of America, not some third world country! Unfortunately, if this disaster had happened on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, relief efforts would have started right away! You are talking about people in New Orleans who have and have had no political clout, the poor, the black and the dispossessed. That is why Bush cut the funding to the Army Corps of Engineers – that is why the relief efforts have been so slow in coming! It is always political considerations for this administration – never considerations about how to make this country great for all its people!


  123. Massachusetts Liberal says:

    Concerned Conservative,

    Like all of your brethren, what you say is beside the point and meant to derail the discussion. No one is blaming Bush for the hurricane. We are blaming him for not DOING HIS JOB.

    That (#90) is just pitiful. Talk about an admission of defeat……


  124. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    Cindy Sheehan is a liar and a pig. Of course you adore her.


  125. Gary Kleppe says:

    [Bush]’s already been found out and that’s why he was re-elected with 51% of the vote.

    You are fooling nobody but yourself, Neddy. The election was stolen.


  126. Terrytheturtle says:

    #124 “Well there you go again” – thanks for stepping and showing your true colors Ned – brown, apparently.


  127. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    Lisa – it is always political considerations with people like yourself when assessing a situation. Get a muzzle – you’re bothering your neighbors.


  128. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    Gary the drunk shows up to cry we wuz robbed. Good, then at least Republicans will stay in power and continue to pack the Courts.


  129. Terrytheturtle says:

    Hey Ned, have you contacted your pinup girl Ann Coulter yet about her questioning you manhood last week?


  130. cmw says:

    It’s becoming more and more apparent that the delays are intentional…

    Arrest Bush, Chertoff, and Brown for criminally negligent homicide.


  131. Lisa says:

    NED,

    Answer my questions, instead of putting me down with inane insults!


  132. Terrytheturtle says:

    When Ned has no argument, he goes for the Goebbels playbook everytime.


  133. cmw says:

    Ned can’t answer questions – Ned is a fake – Ned knows the Republicans will go down taking the country with them


  134. cmw says:

    Arrest Bush now for homicide


  135. Concerned Conservative says:

    #125 — that’s it Gary, keep deluding yourself that the election was stolen. It can’t be that your guy ran an idiotic campaign and came off like some french aristocrat. No, the mean republicans stole it! Keep whining and you’ll keep losing.


  136. Hank says:

    Well, Bush is no the ground, now. I was just watching MSN and he and Trent Lott were both jockeying for the best photo op, both in blue shirts and sleeves rolled up like they were both hard at work. Bush won out on the photo op, using his experience from 9-11 and, while there was no fireman to wrap his arms around, he did find several victims to cry with. Trent Lott, who has been the doghouse lately, was just happy to be back in the picture again with Junior.

    IT was so touching, really, watching the “way he reacts with the common folks” as MSN mentioned. (Evidently they are giving Fox News a run for their money on who can suckup the hardest.) Bush made sure to walk around for ten minutes or so with his arms around the shoulders of several victims, making sure he showed his best profile for the cameras, and that they caught the concern that masks his smirk.

    What a phony, shallow, dipshit engaging in yet another staged event. I think I’ll watch the U.S. Open.


  137. Brian says:

    Forget NED and the likes. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The only reason this disaster is as CALM as it is is because there are no numbers on the dead.

    BUSH PLAYS GUITAR IN PHOTO OP WHILE THE CITY FILLS WITH WATER.


  138. cmw says:

  139. Terrytheturtle says:

    #135 that’s right cc, the same mean republicans who took the money to shore up the levees away from the ACOE and the state of LA. Whether you disenfranchise black voters by purging the voter rolls or drown them in their own sewage, its all the same to the party of ‘compassionate conservatism’


  140. cmw says:

    Arrest Bush for terrorism


  141. cmw says:

    Arrest Bush for
    Negligent homicide
    Malfeasance
    Terrorism
    Corruption
    Crimes against humanity


  142. Terrytheturtle says:

    #137, I’m back on track – Ned just comes here to swear and rant until the bars open in New York.


  143. Ron says:

    #116, I am an idiot for thinking that the bush bashers have a single cell of a brain in their heads. they don’t and never will.

    What a disgrace this site is becoming.

    I can bash bush all day long too. It just isn’t worth it anymore. it is counterproductive. it does absolutely no good whatsoever. the bush bashers are too stupid to realize that though. that’s just the way things are.

    keep on cursing the darkness. it’s the blind leading the dumb here. manolive


  144. EasyRider says:

    Where are the supplies?

    Are the all the buses being loaded?

    Why are they waiting?

    I see CNN airing old footage from an hour ago about the troops and supplies arriving in downtown N.O.


  145. Gary Kleppe says:

    #125 — that’s it Gary, keep deluding yourself that the election was stolen. It can’t be that your guy ran an idiotic campaign and came off like some french aristocrat.

    John “Bush Lite” Kerry was not my guy. I did not support him, I did not vote for him.


  146. cmw says:

    Ron
    As say, you ARE an idiot.

    Arrest Bush


  147. John Mycroft says:

    While we’re all yelling “What is this madman up to?” why is nobody in the Democratic Party working hard to get rid of the cretin? Not in 2008 – that’s a million years away – but now. Get some leadership going, guys. Get Kerry and Edwards and Dean and every senator and governor to impeach the moron before he drags us all down to his ignorant and inhuman level.


  148. Ron says:

    stupid old Adams. Jesus Christ Almighty himself would have you all drawn and quartered.


  149. WaltTheMan says:

    What’s a manolive – don’t you mean male olive? Olives grow on tres.


  150. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    BushCo has learned how to manipulate the MSM. It’s easy, really. Dangle billions of $$$’s worth of Congress-backed give-aways in front of the MSM and see how they dance to BushCo’s tune.

    Liberal media. Bah!


  151. Neo-progressive says:

    Ron and Ned have rabies: they foam at the mouth…

    Or is it that they are getting really desperate now thet the public is finally seeing that the Boy King has no clothes? It hurts to be wrong. But real people, with real guts, would have no trouble admitting that. It is only asswipes,chickenhawks, and suck-ups, who cannot tolerate the thruth. After all, Ron and Ned are directly responsible for the destruction of this great country: they voted for the Chimp! Twice!


  152. Ron says:

    I didn’t vote for Bush… ever. But, I don’t need to use constant invective and vitriole to criticize the man. You bush bashers make Stalin look like a saint.

    keep cursing the darkness, for krissakes.


  153. EasyRider says:

    I wonder if the victims Bush is leading with need tickets?


  154. cmw says:

    Pull the troops out of Iraq
    Send them to DC take into custody
    Cheney (he’s in his bunker)
    Rice (she’s shoe shopping)
    Hastert (don’t rebuild NO, oh wait i didn’t mean that)
    Chertoff (I didn’t know the convention center had people in it)
    Brown (I didn’t know the convention center had people in it)
    Move on to Crawford TX, or Jupiter Island Florida, or Kennebunkport Maine, wherever Bush is hiding and take him into custody
    Ship them all to Guantanamo
    Let them wait 2 years for a hearing


  155. Neo-progressive says:

    #144. They are waiting for a photo-op with the Chimp. The hungry, thirsty, and unwashed, hordes can wait. Hey, what’s a few more hours (or days)?

    I notice that the Chimp looks well-fed, watered, rested, and clean…


  156. cmw says:

    Ron
    GIve it up. You don’t have a leg to stand on. Bush and company are guilty of serious crimes and it’s time for them to be brought to the bar of justice. Bashing is too good for them.


  157. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    Attributing one’s own nature onto others is called a projection.

    So when the NeoCons tell the world about how [fillintheblandk] the “liberals” are… well, you get the picture.

    Impeach Bush. NOW! Have a paper trail come next election. Or allow the poor people of New Orleans to occupy the Bush WhiteHouse… after they’ve been saved.


  158. Marie says:

    The aid is arriving in advance of Bush’s appearance, so he will be greeted like Caesar — to cheering crowds, who are grateful for finally getting relief after 5 days of hell.
    Is the man an opportunist or what?


  159. The Tattered Coat » Blog Archive » Wake Up, You Clueless Fucks says:

    [...] One thing the definitely do not need are gratuitous photo-ops from the President. [...]


  160. cmw says:

    Neo-progressive
    Bush’s hands are dirty


  161. Ron says:

    It looks like the US government is responding to the situation the best they possibly can.


  162. Gary Kleppe says:

    It looks like the US government is responding to the situation the best they possibly can.

    More’s the pity.


  163. Keith H. says:

    I hate the way the other people look at him like he has something to say that is worth listening to. Then treat him with respect, as if he were the president.


  164. Joe Sixpack says:

    Atta boy, NED, lets give ‘em hell! We’re winning the board here: I like the post at #127 telling Liza to get a muzzle. That cracks me up! And where you called Cindy Sheehan a liar and a pig at #124! Great!

    But correct me if I’m wrong, but if we are going to call the mother of a dead soldier a pig, shouldn’t we also be calling the former first lady of our country, Hillary, a skank like Hannity and Rush would do?


  165. cmw says:

    Ron
    You ARE an idiot. If this is the best the govt can do then the entire govt should be arrested for criminal malfeasance.

    But that’s too generous.
    This isn’t incompetence. This is indifference.
    This is intentional indifference.
    This is racism.
    This is homicide by flood waters
    They are crafty these neocon Repugs
    Hasterts already rubbing his hands in glee – he’s probably taking payoffs from Bulldozer companies at this moment.


  166. sikmik says:

    For the first time in my life I am really embarrassed to be an American citizen. They can put a 500 lb smart bomb in a bunker in Iraq in 24 hrs but couldn’t drop any bottled water any where on the Gulf Coast for 4 days


  167. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    This just about sums the whole thing up:
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0902-04.htm

    The lead image is enough to tell me that BushCo’s response is COMPLETELY inadaquate. How can anyone defend Bush and his cronies???


  168. Gary Kleppe says:

    But correct me if I’m wrong, but if we are going to call the mother of a dead soldier a pig, shouldn’t we also be calling the former first lady of our country, Hillary, a skank like Hannity and Rush would do?

    Don’t forget to call Chelsea a dog, and then weasel away claiming it was a technical error.

    Of course, in Neddy’s case, he could claim that he himself is a technical error. That much I’d believe.


  169. Justine says:

    If not for the shrub bashing, he would still not be there.


  170. Preston says:

    I’m no supporter of the President but you have to do more than show a photo of Bush standing with helicopter pilots to prove that he is ‘diverting resources’ from the rescue efforts.

    Are they being re-fueled?
    Are their sufficient numbers of pilots?
    How long have they been there?


  171. cmw says:

    5 days and counting and the same message is sent – “help is on the way” “help is on the way”
    Except it isn’t on the way

    That’s all the proof needed that Bush is diverting resources


  172. TonyC says:

    Re: #124: “Cindy Sheehan is a liar and a pig. Of course you adore her.”

    Comment by The Northeast Dilemma — September 2, 2005 @ 1:52 pm

    Wow, NED, it’s nice to see how the Republicans honor the mother of a slain soldier… This is how you’re going to maintain control in ‘06 and ‘08?


  173. Weed says:

    Why didn’t they respond better? I mean, they should have KNOWN that there were pieces of sh!t who would steal from their fellow man! They send 1500 Guardsman, but they were turned into riot police instead of being able to dispence aid. The Nat. Guard should have known better. You rescue the ones who want to be rescued, and drop a fre daisy cutters on the rest! I say we let the city fill with water, wall it off, and leave the inbred southerners to fend for themselves! It was THEM who got this idiot elected! KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!


  174. Terrytheturtle says:

    Ron, the head of FEMA has zero disaster management experience. He was ousted from his job as counsel to the International Arabian Horses Assoc. because he was a “An unmitigated, total f**king disaster.” Thanks to Darth F from yesterday: http://www.horsesass.org/

    So your comment that the US is responding the best it can is preposterous. And who appointed this ‘Caligula’s Horse’s a**? Chimpy himself. Meanwhile New Orleans drowns in the ’soft bigotry of low expectations’ ….


  175. Marie says:

    The conservatives posting here are obviously desperate. Their leader is failing – and doing so in front of the whole world – they are lashing out at those of us who, for years, have been trying to tell everyone the emperor has no clothes. Regardless of what they think of us, they would be inhuman if they continue their support of the moron-in-chief in light of this disaster which follows 5 years of thievery, lies, and chicanery.


  176. Cee says:

    I want to see Bush in the Convetion Center today walking though it from one end to the other.


  177. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    #172 – nice of you to exploit a mother of a slain soldier to suit your terrorist sympathizing causes.


  178. cmw says:

    Supporting Bush is supporting terrorism


  179. Neo-progressive says:

    #174. They ARE inhuman, just like the idol they worship. It is a cult, you see. They don’t have the ability to think for themselves.


  180. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    Marie – nothing has changed. You guys have been doing this for years now. The American people aren’t seeing anything different from Bush or hearing anything new from attack dogs like yourself. GOP still controls it all and will continue to as long as radical liberals like yourself have the mike!


  181. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    #178 – supporting Kerry is supporting war crimes.


  182. Hank says:

    Preston, lets face it. You know as well as I do why Bush is there: a photo op. A chance to show he gives a sh*t. That guy can see for himself what is happening watching CNN, MSNBC, FOX and all the other networks that are covering it non-stop. He’s in the way and using resources because if he’s on the ground down there, so are hundreds of guards and secret service watching out for his ass. And all those agents and his traveling press corps all use helicopters that should be out rescueing desperate survivors.

    Marine One should be hauling food and water instead of Junior and Trent Lott’s tired asses around “inspecting the damage.” You and Ron and Northeast Delilima need to get your heads out of your rectums or else get a plate glass window for your stomachs.


  183. EasyRider says:

    Why is the New Orleans International Airport empty of people?

    Do the people in charge think the people are better off in N.O. roofs and shelters than where the water and food is? Not to mention the means to get them out of town.


  184. cmw says:

    Ned

    GOP controls it all = GOP responsible for it all
    Arrest the RNC


  185. cmw says:

    Supporting BUsh = terrorism


  186. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    CMW – arrest those who commit treason like yourself. You accuse Bush of it anyway!!! lol!!

    you people should fight to have Sadam acquitted so he can take Iraq over again. One catch – you have to leave America and live with him since you like him so much. Take Cindy with you.


  187. OverSpun » Archive » Maddening says:

    [...] It appears rescue operations are on hold- the helicopters are needed as background for Bush’s press conference. [...]


  188. cmw says:

    Laura Bush on CNN lying right now


  189. Dan Cobb says:

    This IS a Bush HATE-FEST because Bush is contemptible and very deserving of hate. Do those Bush shills
    who try to stifle criticism of their political lord by accusing critics of being “angry” or “hateful” believe that unmitigated evil (George Bush) should not be hated? I believe it is my civic duty to hate an evil presence be it in the White House or in the mafia or
    on the city streets.
    Bush’s ignorant groupies mean to stifle criticism and let Bush’s evil run amok without any response. These people are so profoundly corrupt that they threaten the freedoms that made America great.
    I hate evil, so I hate George Bush. People like Ron and Bush apparently love evil and hate poor people –and Ron (no doubt) and Bush are the ones screaming out and wearing their born-again “Christianity” (ahem) on their sleeve.
    These should be tried as traitors and should they be found guilty, their punishments should be upon them… be it the gallows or otherwise, so be it.
    We need to start lists to identify these people so that
    we can punish them when people who love America take back power.
    Dan in Baltimore


  190. cmw says:

    NED
    Arrest Bush for terrorism


  191. CMoore.com » Mission Accomplished 2 says:

    [...] No, not electric bugaloo Why is the helicopter not out delivering supplies to refugees? Why are the coast guard troops forced to stand there at attention rather than help the victims of Hurricane Katrina? [...]


  192. cmw says:

    Ned
    Send BUsh to Guantanamo to wait 2 years for his trial for terrorism


  193. Ryan Neat says:

    NED,

    Bush DID commit treason, it’s already been shown by the Downing Street memo he committed a crime – but unlike liberals, conservatives like you care more about remaining in power than the truth or justice. You’re delusional fascist creeps – but you already knew that didn’t you?

    As for Cindy, she sacrificed her son in defending this country – what did you sacrifice? Get the hell out of this country you traiterous slug!


  194. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    Dan Cobb – YOU are evil and deserve to be hated.


  195. Spudge-Boy says:

    Can everybody stop responding to NED. He will go away if we don’t talk to him. I am guilty of responding to him, but not anymore.

    It is quite clear that he will never get it and is a worthless piece of crap.

    Last time I will mention his sorry ass.


  196. cmw says:

    Grand Jury convened for Impeachment hearings –
    Grand Jury watches 4 days of CNN live coverage
    Grand Jury stops hearings and says – we’ve seen enough
    The proof is incontrovertible
    Bush is guilty of
    - criminally negligent homicide (for doing nothing to save thousands from a slow horrible death
    - Terrorism (for using a hurricane as an urban renewal tactic)
    and
    -Treason for working to undermine the security of the US
    Arrest him


  197. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    CMW – no, Bush is President and will not be tried for anything. If the war turns out to be a LIE like you say, then I want not only Bush tried, but Kerry, Hillary, Biden and the rest of the slugs who voted for oil over blood too. Also, CMW should be tried for treason.

    Ryan – Sheehan is exploithing her son’s death that’s why 55% of America doesn’t agree with her actions. AND we haven’t even smeared or yet.


  198. senorpez » Blog Archive » I Spy, Katrina Style says:

    [...] What’s wrong with this picture, taken from President Bush’s trip to Mobile, Alabama, a city that was hit hard by Hurricane Katrina? Shall we play a little game of “I Spy,” courtesy of ThinkProgress? [...]


  199. Dr. NO says:

    Laura Bush just said that this situation does not look as bad as what you see on TV, as she visits a clean shelter in Lafayette La. Disconnect……..


  200. cmw says:

    Ned
    Be sure to read #194
    I hope apoplexy sets in


  201. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    CMW – impeach Bush – we’ll just take it to the Supremes and they’ll cover for him again.


  202. cmw says:

    Sorry Ned – I meant please be sure to read 196 – and then go apoplectic on me please, i love when fascists lose it


  203. cmw says:

    ned
    you must be confused as well as insane
    impeachment proceedings don’t go to the supremes


  204. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    74% of Americans have a fave o on Lady Laura. Ter-e-Zah – only 38%. Liberals are HATED.


  205. John says:

    I always thought Bush was an idiot, and I can proudly claim, I didn’t vote for him. Watching the speeches live on TV was great; he made himself look like an idiot live on TV. He kept saying he wasn’t happy, but right away trying to put a spin on it saying something like, I’m proud of what we have been doing to help the people, but not the results. Now what does that mean? He is proud of the meager federal response to the disaster? The one thing I am certain of is that someone is going to get fired and blamed for this mess.


  206. cmw says:

    Laura Bush just lied and said the response was adequate for those who managed to escapte –
    tell that to the people waitin gfor days in Biloxi for a drink of water


  207. Neo-progressive says:

    #193. Ned and his ilk are NOT conservative. They are right-wing radicals like the dictator they worship so slavishly.


  208. cmw says:

    Ned
    could you repeat your #204, i think you started going apoplectic and the words got all jumbled


  209. cmw says:

    Ned is a fascist ignoramous
    Like his fuehrer


  210. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    #204 – neither do elections, but somehow Bush pulled that off. You will NEVER get back into power again because and his corrupt party will continue to steal the elections. Next, I hear they are going to start executing those who dissent.


  211. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    CMW – you hate American like you fuehrer


  212. WaltTheMan says:

    Re: 209
    cmw -You should not be putting down ignoramuses like that.


  213. shaggy says:

    Everything is fiiiinne for the “Stepford Wife” Laura. Is she evened out with anti-depr. or what?


  214. Dan Cobb says:

  215. cmw says:

    Ned
    there’s still something called separation of powers – the supremes don’t rule on impeachment – but you wouldn’t know anything about that since it would require an education and in Bush Amerika education is unnecessary


  216. cmw says:

    Ned
    your #211 shows a breakdown in syntax – it seems more than just mispelling – could you clarify “you hate American like you fuehrer”


  217. cmw says:

    walttheMan
    I know it’s not nice to call ignoramuses fascists.


  218. Joe Sixpack says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I like old Ned and I enjoy taking his side. Calling refering to him as a “right-wing radical” and calling him a “fascist ignoramous like his fuehrer” is demeaning and I, for one will defend him: he is NOT either like his fuehrer.


  219. cmw says:

    Joe
    I like Ned too. He’s fun.


  220. Gary Kleppe says:

    I’d say that Neddy is losing it here, except I don’t think he ever had it.


  221. Brian says:

    HOMELAND SECURITY IS A SHAM
    PEOPLE DIED WHILE THE PRESIDENT DID NOTHING.

    HOMELAND SECURITY IS A SHAM
    PEOPLE DIED WHILE THE PRESIDENT DID NOTHING.

    HOMELAND SECURITY IS A SHAM
    PEOPLE DIED WHILE THE PRESIDENT DID NOTHING.


  222. cmw says:

    I think Ned is really a commie – he likes to get people going against Bush – could he just be a bush-hater in disguise – what fun


  223. Neo-progressive says:

    #205. Don’t get your hopes up. NOBODY in the Bush Administration ever gets fired for gross incompetence. The greater the incompetence, the greater the chances of getting a medal.

    Now, if somebody actually wants to do his/her job properly, and complains about incomptence and corruption, then, it is another story!

    Do not dare crticize the Fuhrer and his Gestapo. Dissent is no longer allowed in this Repub…, err, dictatorship.


  224. cmw says:

    Ned is a double agent


  225. Dr. NO says:

    Damage control is now hitting MSM TV. Prepare to be hammered with lies.


  226. Brian says:

    WE HAD NO REASON TO SUSPECT TERRORISTS WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS WOULD COME ACROSS THE BORDER

    WE HAD NO REASON TO SUSPECT TERRORISTS WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS WOULD COME ACROSS THE BORDER

    WE HAD NO REASON TO SUSPECT TERRORISTS WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS WOULD COME ACROSS THE BORDER


  227. Gary Kleppe says:

    Yo, Brian. Switch to decaf, dude.


  228. Mike’s Blog » Blog Archive » Helicopters wasted on press conference says:

    [...] Think Progress asks “Why are these helicopters being used as a backdrop for President Bush, instead of assisting the victims of Hurricane Katrina? Why are members of the Coast Guard being used as a backdrop for Bush’s press conference? Don’t they have more important things to do?” [...]


  229. Neo-progressive says:

    ned is not an ignoraMus. he is an ignoraNus, i.e both a moron AND an asshole.


  230. cmw says:

    #229
    good analysis


  231. Terrytheturtle says:

    Ned is Ann Coulter


  232. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    Laura being a stepford wife is better than Hillary and Ter-e-Zah’s disgusting left wing mouthpiece act. Everyone loves Laura Bush. Everyone hates Hillary.


  233. Sharon Cox says:

    Good lines Hank#136 and Cmw #154 &#164. Did any one notice all the polotical leaders including the 1st lady Laura spent lots of time glad handing and saying”help is on the way” but not one of them gave water, food or a lift to a shelter to the poor people providing them another photo opp. Gees, what a terrible tragedy. The Salvation Army has been kicking butt since the beginning, thousands of meals all over.Let’s send some of those guys to the white house and boot all the Bush bunch out. Please donate to the Salvation Army and red cross. Did any one see the out standing remarks from the black caucus.? Impeach, arrest and prosacute all the liers and thieves..Blessings to our country and her people, we need it.


  234. Hank says:

    I couldn’t help myself and turned on MSNBC again. Now in addition to replaying constant reruns of Bush’s photo op hugging devistated black survivors, they have that great humanitarian and compassionate senator, TOM DELAY doing the commentary.

    Good God Almighty! Who’s the next jerk MSNBC will trot that wants to use this tragedy to polish their sorry immage, Pat Robertson?


  235. Martini Republic says:

    Bush responds: Operation Photo-op

    Four days after Katrina strikes New Orleans with catastrophic results, and Bush responds forcefully — with operation Photo Opportunity. Rolling up his sleeves, and mustering all the prezzydenshul-…


  236. Dan Cobb says:

    Gary Kleppe,

    See Gary, the problem is that even though Bush is
    an unmitigated evil presence raining death and destruction down on the world, you seem to believe
    that there is nothing on earth worth getting angry about. If someone started killing your kids and Brian
    started getting angry with the killer, would your response be: “Yo, Brian, switch to decaf?” I wonder.
    The greatest crime in our nation today is to be angry–even though Bush’s evil should make any moral decent
    person boiling mad. Once our society is pacified and
    conditioned to believe that “anger” is soooo bad, then
    the President can act like the Hitler he is and if you
    express anger, well, take some decaf, dude! How pathetic. You’ve completely bought into the ethos of
    these enormous monsters –Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and
    the Bushes. These people need to be tried in The
    Hague, the sooner the better!
    Dan in Baltimore


  237. Bobby says:

    #229 That has me LOL!


  238. Gary Kleppe says:

    Dan, I was kidding. I think there’s plenty worth getting angry about.


  239. Brian says:

    If I throw out a small jab at you Gary, ala NED, will you discuss the issue?
    Okay, Gary. Here it is. In my calmest voice. Please stop the mindless chit chat about NED. Sometimes I want to check in and quickly see what’s on people’s minds and I have to sift through the schoolyard stuff.
    In the past I tried to dispatch of NED as quickly as I could. You guys are not very good at it.

    Now, having said that. GO F*CK YOURSELF, Gary.


  240. Matt says:

    You people are crazy. Quit blaming President Bush. Focus on what’s important, helping all of the victims that want help. The responsibility for first responders falls under city and then state control. If they need help, then they should then turn to the federal gov. and request it. Even if you had every helicopter, cruise ship, water bottle, etc… on hand to help these people that still wouldn’t be enough. Because then you would start blaming global warming on President Bush, or some other lame reason for the hurricane. Let’s not forget that the people down in New Orleans have to “want” to be saved, not all of them do by the looks of the looting (stealing of firearms, tv’s, shoes, etc….). Get over it, open your wallets, shut your mouths and start helping!


  241. Jesus Christ God of WAR says:

    Did anyone notice how well the Botox treatments have helped Laura hide her compassionate expression? I just saw her on the TV and nearly gagged.


  242. daniel says:

    Well… Considering that this photo is taken in Mobile, Alabama and not in New Orleans. It could be that there are no rescue operations in this area that require Coast Guard choppers.

    Oh wait thats right no matter what he does, Bush is wrong. I forgot that. Silly me.


  243. Dynagirl 5.0 says:

    [...] Canada offers aid, US refuses; Russia., too. Maybe if The Secretary of State weren’t doing an Imelda Marcos in New York, she could coordinate that a bit better? Bush photo-op diverts needed resources N.O. Mayor Hottie McGorgeousPants Ray Nagin furious with feds total fucking chaos Anderson Cooper rips Sen. Landrieu a well-deserved new one IDIOTS at FEMA didn’t know that some 15,000 people were being sheltered at the convention center, more, more, more FEMA to rescue workers: buy your own damned gas FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility and…. New Orleans’ defenses down, levee building funds cut to pay for Iraq, tax cuts: The corps has long wanted to strengthen some of the levees which have been sinking, and on its website yesterday said it planned to build a further 74 miles of hurricane defences. But according to local media, it was last year refused extra funding by the White House which wanted to save money to pay for homeland security against terrorism. “ [...]


  244. Gary Kleppe says:

    Have a nice day to you too, Brian.


  245. Ryan Neat says:

    Matt,

    You’re an idiot… I’m sure I’m not the first person to point out the obvious – you should have listened the first time you heard it…


  246. Mouth of the South says:

    CALL your SENATORS and CONGRESSMAN NOW

    I’ve posted on another blog … and I’m going to keep posting every chance I get on different threads/diaries so people will get the word and do this … until I get kicked off I guess.

    Go to Senate.gov and House.gov to get their telephone numbers and CALL AND BEG!

    I called both Senators and my Congressman. I asked PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get some help in there NOW for those people.

    I SUGGESTED: get James Lee Witt Associates in as a subcontractor, get Michael Brown to sit down and get outa the way. Witt has shown that he can do the job. THERE HAS TO BE LEADERSHIP DOWN THERE NOW.

    I begged again to PLEASE help these people. It’s going to get worse. Early this morning I got a recorder but I left a message. Another person listened and said “have a nice day” and I told him “I won’t.”

    I also wrote Wesley Clark, Scanlon and the general email address – all with James Lee Witt Associates (http://www.wittassociates.com) and asked they contact Mayor Nagin directly to see if they can get subcontracted to go in and organize …. I really feel sure Michael Brown will be happy to sit down and take orders. He obviously don’t know shit from shinola.

    Since first writing this, it looks like a Lieut Gen Honore (sp) is on the ground, but this is Friday and it’s going to get worse yet folks. I really strongly feel that our congressmen need to hear from us personally.

    I’m not ashamed to BEG for help for people who are dying, who are without water, food, who are watching their loved ones die, let alone have no home. I’d crawl and beg if I thought it would get the Senators and Congressmen off their “don’t know what to do” butts and put their heads together for some leadership in that mess down there. If they’re waiting for Bush to lead, it ain’t going to happen

    AND if some additional catastrophic happens in that area (more levees break) (refineries blowing up everywhere, whatever, Bush CANNOT react quickly. It’s always days …. our people are dying and suffering.

    Where are the right-to-lifers now? Don’t these people have a RIGHT to life!


  247. Dartanyon says:

    “Everyone loves Laura Bush.” ~The Northeast Dilemma

    I wonder if NED has a pisture of Pickles taped over the face of his plastic blow-up doll?

    Poor blow-up doll.


  248. TRUTH says:

    George Bush is not really a human being
    He’s an obscenity to humanity and his very existence is a profanity as are the sheeple with no brain who put him into office


  249. Dan Cobb says:

    Matt, what a shill for the Bush administration!
    That’s right! Just shut up and don’t criticize our
    political lord! Get busy and forget his incompetence for appointing Mr. Michael Brown (a money-buddy of W’s) as FEMA director –a man who never worked in emergency management a day in his life (This puke of a man was a failed attorney for the International Arabian Horse Association –he was fired because he so f*cked up the organization in such a short time. He
    was a friend of George’s, and that’s all that mattered.) More people are dying in N.O. now because
    this clown doesn’t know his the difference between
    his asshole and emergency management. BUT WHATEVER
    YOU DO, DON’T CRITICIZE MATTIE’S BELOVED GEORGE!!!
    So Matt, as you would have… never criticize the
    powerful… Just shut up…and let them completely
    bungle everything they have power over… Never
    speak truth to power… just be a good obeisant pawn…
    That might make you happy, Matt (”Door matt” sounds
    more appropriate)… but my question to you is:
    Where are your balls, m’man??
    By the way, I’ve already donated more money to the RED CROSS than you likely make in a month…

    Dan in Baltimore


  250. Brian says:

    Hey Matt,
    (politely)

    YOUR PRESIDENT PLAYED GUITAR FOR A PHOTO OP WHILE PEOPLE DIED IN THE STREETS. EVERYONE KNEW THERE WOULD BE DEATH. EVERYONE KNEW THERE WOULD BE UNPRECEDENTED DESTRUCTION 48 HOURS BEFORE THE HURRICANE HIT.


  251. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    On a side note, Gov. Blanco is toast after this mess! LOL! So is Mary Landrieu – Bobby Jindal will take her down in 2008. Poor Democrats – no one trusts them because they don’t know how to lead.


  252. Joey B. says:

    Blame the LA governor.


  253. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    Dan – STFU. You’re a typical liberal – brag about how much $$ you while forcing redistribution of others.


  254. The Northeast Dilemma says:

    #251 – damn straight. We will choke her with this come 2008. She is a dim bulb if I’ve ever seen one.


  255. Dan Cobb says:

    Guys, I’m recording the names of
    The Northeast Dilemma, and other shills
    for the evil administration of George
    Bush and when the power returns, we’ll
    get the info from thinkprogress… and
    take the appropriate action against these
    people… I have a list of over 2,800
    names and I can’t wait to present evidence
    at their trials.
    Dan


  256. Matt says:

    Ryan Neat,

    Why is it that you couldn’t provide a rebuttal to my claims, but rather had to insult me. Good job Ryan, way to try and make things better. That’s how we got ahead in this country, by criticizing. Answer this question: What would President ______ (enter your candidate of choice, McCain, Kerry, Clinton, Gore, Edwards,etc…) be doing if they were in the same situation. I’ll tell you what they would do, they would try there best to motivate those in charge (governors, mayors, etc..) to do their best and would walk around the destruction with their shirts rolled up trying to provide some sort of comfort to the average citizen. To tell you the truth, I’m not particularly comfortable with the idea of our president walking around an area that is in such disarray (that would go for a Democratic president as well).


  257. Dan Cobb says:

    Hey NorthEast Dimbulb
    I’m happy to redistribute because
    I am not GREEDY! You presume greediness
    because you are greedy, i.e., Republican.
    My employees get full benefits and make
    more than any comparable workers in their
    field, numbnuts!
    Dan


  258. Joe Sixpack says:

    NED at #231. I agree about Laura Bush. We love her cause she is perfect, has no worldly opinions, and is good at smiling a lot. Plus she shares Barbara Bush’s view of W being a “little scamp” when he was young. I like it when she talks about how she told him, “its either me or Jim Beam,” when Bush turned 40. Remember that one?

    Now correct me if I’m wrong, but when we speak of Laura Bush and Barbara Bush we always say their full name out of respect but when we refer to Mrs. Clinton, we say “Hillary” to indescretely show our total disrespect. Actually I like the way Rush refers to her as “Billary” even better. How about you?


  259. Tony says:

    Hey, maybe Mayor Nagin and the Louisiana Governor could have used these before the storm struck:

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015

    Perhaps to ferry the poor out of the city into inland colesiums, gyms, and other shelters??? If we’re going to blame anyone, blame these 2.


  260. so sad says:

    #239 – request help from the federal government? so they can be refused again? e.g. when bushie specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers’ budget for New Orleans after specifically warning about the levees?

    the wallets are open, our hearts are open, but we also need to see that some of the amazing things that seem to be happening in this country will not be repeated. Blame global warming on bush? No. Think he’s helping deal with global warming? uh… no..


  261. duh says:

    Right wing fascist always resort to name calling and how they “won” the election. But silent about how the
    rethugs prevented paper trails on voting machines. Coincidently they “win” the elections in two states and in both cases the ones in charge of the elections are avowed Bush c**suckers. They control the media, both houses, the executive branch and soon the judiciary. One party rule – for the rich, corperations and the religious hyprocrites. wonderful. No matter how many times this adminstration f***k up – no one ever gets fired, just the whistle blowers and truth tellers get fired. No accountability. And the trolls on
    this site like their leader admit nothing. The huricane was predicted to be cat 5. The federal government should have been prepared and they have allready proven to be incompetent – so yeah they should be critized allready – maybe just maybe this
    critisim will save a life or 2. The trolls even now
    bash Clinton, yet whine like pigs when Bush is bashed.
    Just once I would like to see a post from the trolls that pollute this site – that they joined the arm forces in Iraq – or answer the question what the honerable cause Casey Sheehan died for? I am no fan
    of Kerry or anyone that voted for the Iraq debacle pretty much all of our eleceted officials are corperate whores – we should take care of that problem first and then maybe the people will get represented.


  262. Matt says:

    Dan Cobb,

    And what would the appropriate action be for us Republicans. You (Democrats) will have your day in the sun. There will some day be a Democratic president and then we’ll all get to see what happens next. Cast that stone buddy. You’re doing a great job. BTW, good job donating money to the Red Cross. Hopefully, it will motivate others to do the same.


  263. Gary Kleppe says:

    What would President ______ (enter your candidate of choice, McCain, Kerry, Clinton, Gore, Edwards,etc…) be doing if they were in the same situation.

    Well, any competent President:

    (1) Would not have taken more vacation days than any President in history;

    (2) If on vacation, would have cut it short when disaster was imminent;

    (3) Would not have slashed to the bone funding for disaster relief agencies in order to pay for tax cuts for the rich;

    (4) Would not have sent the National Guard to Iraq for an illegal and immoral clusterfuck;

    (5) Would not have put an incompetent clown in charge of disaster relief agencies;

    (6) Would not divert valuable rescue equipment and personnel for a photo op.


  264. Dan Cobb says:

    By the way Numbnuts dilemma,
    why aren’t you serving in Iraq in the “noble cause”!?
    Please answer this!?
    Dan


  265. Another EVIL SHILL says:

    Dan, I thought liberals were supposed to be tolerant of other ideas. You seem to harbor extreme hate of republicans. How ironic? Maybe you need a refresher on liberal ideals.

    evil shill (name given me by Dan the tolerant liberal)


  266. Jane E. Schneider says:

    So, Ron, obviously you save your constant invective and vitriol for progressive blogs.

    Ned, by the way, your sweetheart Ann Coulter insulted New Yorkers on Wednesday. She said we weren’t Americans, and that she didn’t believe New Yorkers were going to rush to the aid of hurricane victims the way people all over the country rushed to New York’s aid after 9/11. Are you going to take that from your bitch, or just move out of New York so her comments won’t apply to you? (Please move out, please move out, please move out…)


  267. Matt says:

  268. Ryan Neat says:

    Matt,

    You criticize liberals for criticizing the federal government, and yet you criticize the mayor and the governor when it is not within their authority to do many of the tasks you claim they should have done. You’re an idiot and a hypocrit…


  269. Nick Caine says:

    After Bush’s, Marie Antoinette moment. You would have though that he would of been more careful with his photo-ops, and that care would of been taken with his PR.

    Who is in charge of his PR? Or are Bush and his advisors too arrogant to think they can do no wrong, in the eyes of the American public?


  270. Another EVIL SHILL says:

    Ryan Neat,

    You had a valid argument against Matt until you started with the name calling. That is when you lost your credibilty.

    Evil Shill


  271. Matt says:

    When reading through all of the posts listed above I find it interesting to see that the majority of you believe the lack of response (from the gov.) is due to race. I’d like to mention that New Orleans was a city with a population that consisted of approx. 65% blacks, so yes there were more there, but Hurrican Katrina effected everyone, Asians, Hispanics and yes those evil Caucasians. To those who wonder why there is so much violence going on in the convention center and the Superdome maybe you should ask those New Orleaners who are committing the senseless beatings, rapes and murders.


  272. Joe Sixpack says:

    Good shot, NED at #249 and #252. Damned rights that democratic governor Blanco is to blame for this mess in New Orleans! She asked for help four days before Bush returned from vacation then probably sat on her ass as the hurricane hit.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, however, but I don’t think she looks like a “dim bulb” as you pointed out, but an exhausted one. But at least Bush looks all fresh and rested.


  273. Matt says:

    You criticize liberals for criticizing the federal government, and yet you criticize the mayor and the governor when it is not within their authority to do many of the tasks you claim they should have done. You’re an idiot and a hypocrit…

    Ryan….where did I criticize anyone???


  274. Gary Kleppe says:

    You had a valid argument against Matt until you started with the name calling. That is when you lost your credibilty.

    Because, as we all know, right-wingers would never stoop to name-calling.

    And of course, if he’d just made an argument without the name-calling, you’d have ignored him.


  275. Dan Cobb says:

    Matt, sorry to say, but the stone that you
    perceive as coming from me actually ricocheted
    off me… it was a stone thrown by a casual
    indifference to the poor… standard operating
    procedure in the Bush White House… it was
    a stone cast by Bush’s dreadful appointment
    Michael Brown (a $$ friend of “W”’s) thrown at the
    poor in New Orleans.

    Without any exaggeration, I think the following is an unbiased chronology of what happened in N.O.:

    1) A huge hurricane called Katrina was sure to
    cause severe damage to New Orleans

    2) FEMA called for a mandatory evacuation and
    told all citizens of N.O. to evacuate –poor, middle
    class and rich…

    3) People with cars or money or credit card (middle class and rich) left the city in their cars/boats/planes…

    4) The Poor, with no money, credit, cars, etc. were
    unable to leave.

    5) FEMA knew that there would likely be great damage
    and flooding AND knew that there were lots of poor people that would not be able to leave due to their
    poverty AND DID NOT provide transportation out for these people –these people who they told to evacuate but who they know did not have the means to do so.

    6) One can only conclude that FEMA’s evacuation
    order could only effectively be acted upon by citizens who are middle to upper middle class.

    The fact that FEMA knew that poor neighborhoods would
    likely flood combined with the fact that FEMA did nothing to physically evacuate these people, shows me that FEMA apparently does not feel that saving poor people from drowning is part of their “emergency management” mission.

    Matt, you ask me what Republicans can do… certainly
    donating money is helpful… BUT NOTHING WOULD BE
    MORE HELPFUL THAN TO DEMAND A GENUINELY CHRISTIAN (CHRIST-LIKE) [not faux-Christian... or photo-op
    Christian, like "W"] POSTURE AND DEMAND that your
    party concern itself with the poor as much as it concerns itself with the rich. How can a party
    that claims so much “CHRISTIANITY” be the party that
    loves a rich man and simply cannot (or will not)
    see a poor man? JESUS CHRIST was all about poor
    helping the sick, the poor, etc.
    Born again Christianity in this country has become
    much more of a political posture than anything
    reverential or sacred. It’s a sign of crumbling
    empire, I’m afraid.

    Dan in Baltimore


  276. cynical ex-hippie says:

    Bush needs to go on another bike ride because I want him to make fresh, crisp decisions.

    He’s got to get on with his life, after all.


  277. Matt says:

    Not necessarily Gary. Some of us backwoods Republicans are educated and can debate/discuss a topic without getting overly upset or emotional about it.


  278. Hank says:

    MSNBC and Chris Matthews are finally ripping Bush a new one for his sorry-assed response and finally getting around questioning his late involvement. What an incompetent, out-of-touch, stooge. George W. Bush, the Imperial President.


  279. ChristianLibrul says:

    The Republican Party is a plague on America, and King Goerge is the biggest infected rat.


  280. Joe Sixpack says:

    I like your superior style, Matt. I’m kind of a redneck kind of republican myself. Hain’t got a lot of polish, but know what I’m talking about.

    Correct me if I’m wrong here, but I’m starting to suspect Northeast Delemma is not like me and you, but really a liberal in conversative clothing.


  281. Citizen80203 says:

    Americans smell the rotting fish.

    “We will reduce the size of the Federal Government, so we can drown it in the bathtub.”, this has been the wetdream of the fish for two decades. Well, they got their wish and control all branchs, and there are babies floating in a “big easy” bathtub. Good job fishboys.


  282. Neo-progressive says:

    #263. Don’t tell me that Ned lives in New York. I thought we, New Yorkers, were pretty good at keeping the garbage out of our beloved city. Gee! Got to do something about it!

    As for Ann Coulter, well, she is a whore: she’ll say anything to get quoted. Dismiss the moron and her unhinged rantings. She’s just an attention-seeker.


  283. Brian Sims says:

    People seem surprised that the administration has killed again. It won’t stop until the american people stand up for themselves and storm the White House, ridding this nation of the true evil do’ers.


  284. Nick Caine says:

    Can any of the right-wing posters to this topic tell me why they feel that George W. Bush has done everything he can to save the people who have been affected by the floods?

    Then please can you tell me why he shouldn’t face any criticism over the way he has handled the whole situation.

    Then please explain to me, as Republicans. How serious a situation has to be, before the President of the United Stated. Breaks off fro his holidays, to deal with the situation.

    And what type of a situation needs to arise, (or how catastrophic does it need to get). Before any of George W. Bush supporter, would expect their President to personally oversee the situation that was unfolding before their President’s eyes.

    Then please explain to me how strumming a guitar, and filling his face with cake, (what a pity it wasn’t cheese-cake, then he could of smiled and said cheese as he had his photograph taken). Is of far more importance to Bush, than doing the job that is expected of him, and the position he hold.

    Mission definitely not accomplished.


  285. Matt says:

    Dan,

    I’ll agree with points #1 and #2 because those state facts. Where I disagree is that I believe it is the city, county and states responsibility to ensure folks evacuate. However, this was a “voluntary” evacuation and therefore it was not mandatory for everyone to leave. Should the local govt have set up some sort of hotline number for those without the means to call if they needed a ride to the Superdome, probably. But in my opinion the majority of those who stayed behind did so because they have heard some many reports (year in and year out) stating a hurricane was coming and they were never inflicted with that much grief. I’m also sure that some stayed behind to protect their property from looters after the storm.
    I am a Christian, I live in Texas and my church has opened it’s gym to about 75 people who were effected by the storms. We will support their every need until they can get back on their feet. So don’t think for a minute that we (Republicans) aren’t doing anything to help out.


  286. Ron says:

    I’ve been praying with all of my might for you bush bashers. May God help you all.

    I have been at this site all afternoon for solace and reprieve from the so-called ‘liberals’ at this God-forsaken place.

    May bush bashers burn in hell for eternity (if there is such a place).

    On second thought, hell is too good a place for the bush bashers. May you drown in the fecal morass in New Orleans.


  287. Citizen80203 says:

    Come on mattboy

    You talk on sunday, then f**k off the rest of week. It is your leadership that screws this country with tax cuts and budget cuts (and pork). Just like dear leader who poses on the ranch, but is a wet noddle once Rove takes out the codpiece.


  288. Dan Cobb says:

    Matt, obviously the response by the poor to an evacuation order would not receive a 100% response, and I do not know how many would have stayed behind had they been given transportation out and a place to stay (also very important). However, the fact that more than 20,000 of the poor fled as best they could and converged on the Superdome suggests that many of the poor were as spooked by the dire predictions as the middle and upper middle classes were (most all of whom fled the city). I think Katrina was different in kind –in the sense that the alarm level over Katrina prior to hitting land was extremely elevated compared to more recent storms.
    The simple fact is that the poor are not a constituency of the Republican party. In fact, I often get the sense that many Republicans (not all) are disgusted by the poor. Christ was a champion of the poor. I find the attitudes of the Republican party
    generally to be largely at odds with the message
    of Jesus Christ –forgiveness, loving they neighbor,
    aiding the poor and sick– these are not typically on the front-burner of Republicans. To my mind, being
    a Republican AND a Christian has an odd dissonance. Not that the Democratic party would fare too much better under this analysis. Christ is my hero, and I’m an agnostic! He was an awesome man. His message today is as radical as it was over 2000 years ago.
    Dan in Baltimore



  289. Hank says:

    Matt at 282. I think it is commendable of you and your church to help out those folks who have been hit the hardest. I also glad that as you pointed out, (republicans) are doing everything they can to help out. Pat Robertson’s group is helping out too, with some of the Katrina money given to them by FEMA.

    And now that you have a totally disconnected leader to grudgingly give up his vacation to start overseeing the government again between photo ops, the whole Republican Party, from Tom Delay to Trent Lott, are on the ground and doing what they can to make sure they are seen down there by the public.

    It just makes me feel all warm an fuzzy, seeing Bush act like he really gives a damn.


  290. Citizen80203 says:

    Ronfish

    That smell of rot is coming from you, you fishboy are the one doomed to be the sewer cleaner in hell. Quit picking the s**t out of your hole and offering us to smell it.


  291. WaltTheMan says:

    Half a century ago, the federal government would have provided a means of transport out of N.O. and put everyone up in vacant military bases in states as far flung as New Mexico. In addition stone-filled(but floatable) barges would be placed at sites near potentual levee breaks. They had a week to get ready befor the storm and four days after – they still aren’t.


  292. Massachusetts Liberal says:

    Northeast Dilemma — Can you back up your accusation in #180? Have some proof that the records were falsified? What an a-hole.


  293. Nick Caine says:

    Ron, let he who is without sin throw the first stone.

    Crawl back under that rock, which you so obviously inhabit.

    Is it not KKK night tonight for you? Are you getting the bed linen ready. Maybe you could go down to the New Orleans Superdome in all of your Ku Klux Klan regalia. I’m sure the flood victims would love to meet you.

    You are a bigoted, racist, right-wing fascist piece of shit.


  294. mighty aphrodite says:

    #284 – The only pork Dems love is liberal pork – ask the esteemed pork grabber, Senator Robert “KKK” Byrd (D-WVa). To the topic – George Bush can’t do anything right according to the national whiners and bleaters. If he went to NOLA the day the storm HIT, you’d be upset he wasn’t killed in the storm. If he went the day AFTER, you’d be pissed that he was grabbing a “photo-op”. No wonder many of you are so MISERABLE.


  295. Ron says:

    For your edification, stupid old Adams that you all are.

    According to federal census reports, on June 1, 1860 there were nearly 4.5 million Negroes in the United States, with fewer than four million of them living in the southern slaveholding states. Of the blacks residing in the South, 261,988 were not slaves. Of this number, 10,689 lived in New Orleans. The country’s leading African American historian, Duke University professor John Hope Franklin, records that in New Orleans over 3,000 free Negroes owned slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in that city.

    To return to the census figures quoted above, this 28 percent is certainly impressive when compared to less than 1.4 percent of all American whites and less than 4.8 percent of southern whites. The statistics show that, when free, blacks disproportionately became slave masters.

    The majority of slaveholders, white and black, owned only one to five slaves. More often than not, and contrary to a century and a half of bullwhips-on-tortured-backs propaganda, black and white masters worked and ate alongside their charges; be it in house, field or workshop. The few individuals who owned 50 or more slaves were confined to the top one percent, and have been defined as slave magnates.

    In 1860 there were at least six Negroes in Louisiana who owned 65 or more slaves The largest number, 152 slaves, were owned by the widow C. Richards and her son P.C. Richards, who owned a large sugar cane plantation. Another Negro slave magnate in Louisiana, with over 100 slaves, was Antoine Dubuclet, a sugar planter whose estate was valued at (in 1860 dollars) $264,000 (3). That year, the mean wealth of southern white men was $3,978 (4).


  296. muddmike says:

    Comments to all of the Bush supporters:

    1) I constantly hear thet we are not supposed to criticize the pResident, but when Clinton was in office, every time he took a breath some Repugnant shill criticized him.

    2) Liberals do not destroy democracy, LIES KILL DEMOCRACY!

    3) Bush started the destruction of New Orleans in 2003 when the disaster in Iraq and MORE tax breaks for the wealthy took priority over protecting the poor in the city. Probably because they voted against him.
    See the following article:
    http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001051313

    4) A disaster as big as this can ONLY be handled by federal gov. The states never have the amount of resources to deal with something this large.

    5) Bush also slowed the response by sending 3,700 of the LA National Guard personnel to die in an illegal, immoral and unwinable war.

    6) While Bush is not responsible for Global Warming, he IS responsible for slowing any actions by the US to stop making it worse.

    7) Matt is correct in that the Dems will soon have their chance. (If we can stop Diebold etc.) The last time the Repubs had control of congess for 12 years ended in 1932. It took the Depression to wake up enough Americans. We are rapidly heading toward an even worse situation sped up by Bush’s actions and inactions.

    To the Bush critics:

    Yes, Bush is probably the worst pResident for a long time, and he is managed to make him look good on TV. However, those helicopters may have been in the hangar for a vvalid reason. Choppers need a huge amount of maintenance, typically every 50 hours of flight time.


  297. Joe Sixpack says:

    I’m with Ron #283 and tired of you Bush bashers. He says he hopes you all drown in the fecal morass of New Orleans.

    Correct me if I’m wrong here, but I’d bet you rotten liberals would prefer to be knee deep in it, especially if you were standing on a Bush supporters shoulders.


  298. Citizen80203 says:

    Actually fish, I’m disappointed you were not killed in the storm. Your party is a bloated fish that is stinking up America, and you will be thrown out beginning in 2006. So keep playing with your ass, but just let your friends on the right smell your fingers.


  299. muddmike says:

    toe Ron #283 post:

    The site is blasphmous! http://www.bushislord.com/

    Elevating Bush to the status of God?

    If you read and believe that, you have missed the whole point of Christ’s message.

    I will pray for you.


  300. Ron says:

    It is a sarcastic site, dude. It is not a serious place, it is a dig into bush supporters. ok?


  301. muddmike says:

    Ron #285

    This posting shows exactly what you are, a White Supremacist.

    WHy did you hide the fact that the link was to the British National Party, a bigotted bunch of losers, who respond to their own incompetence by blaming those of other races.

    Here is a quote from a site about the organization:

    “The modern BNP was founded in 1982 by (British physicist (born in Ireland) remembered for his experiments on the transparency of gases and the absorption of radiant heat by gases and the transmission of sound through the atmosphere; he was the first person to explain why the daylight sky is bl) John Tyndall, a former chairman of the (Click link for more info and facts about National Front) National Front and a public follower of (A German member of Adolf Hitler’s political party) Nazi ideals.”

    “http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/b/br/british_national_party.htm

    It is no wonder that you are such an avid Bush supporter.


  302. muddmike says:

    Ron

    If those posts were sarcastic then I’m all with you. The problem is there were probably some trolls who were all with you.


  303. Hank says:

    Ron, all rhetoric, religion, and horsesh*t aside, your post at #292 was thought provoking for all sides to ponder. Thanks.


  304. WaltTheMan says:

    These posts are ironic -who would be president today if Katrina and Cindy were active in 2004?


  305. Brian says:

    Bush eats cake while people die.

    Bush celebrates McCain’s birthday while people die.

    Bush plays guitar while people die.

    Bush gives speeches while people die.


  306. Terrytheturtle says:

    OK, Mr President, here’s something for those shiny helicopters and clean-cut boys to do: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9175553/


  307. Dan Cobb says:

    The comments have really dried up over the last
    several minutes… guess the work day is over and
    everyone is headed for home!
    Dan


  308. WaltTheMan says:

    Only on the east coast.


  309. John says:

    Anyone notice the small change on msnbc, this morning they had the timer on the screen set to 5 days and counting the hours and minutes, then they switched to 4 days and not counting the hours or minutes, now they are showing 4 days and 10 hours, and not showing the minutes.Was someone in the administration feeling pressured by the timer?
    It probably doesnt matter, you should see Tom Delay hes funny making up things, using uncommon words like Probably, and phrases like take down barriers, they are just spining themselves into oblivion. Will this effect the 2006 elections?
    I still believe that the Bush run Republicans are idiots that should be tried for Treason to the United States.
    Heres an interesting link about the FEMA timeline in the bush administration http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_09/007023.php


  310. progressive and proud says:

    We must stop addressing NeD and the other trolls. Look, I can’t figure out what the hell they think when they pop up our website and then tell us how they hate it. They make no sense and sound juvenile, at best. They will say “we want you all to wake up and stop bashing Bush for all of your problems” nearly every other thread. Little does he know that they are his problems too, but he is young and naive. We all know what their retort will be even before we post. It is useless addressing them directly.

    Again, we already know exactly what they will say even before they say it. They are predictable and volitile and they want someone to fight with. Hell, they probably go on the facist websites and bash them (just to shore up a little more attention). I picture them as extremely lonely pimply faced skinny white boys that chat with us naked and scared. They just want our attention and we oblige. I know, I know, it is gratifying to actually be able to speak directly to the actual idiots that voted for this scumbag with a low IQ. Mainly because no one on the street is owning up to their vote. But, then the “debate” always turns into a talking point for them and slide downhill.

    Let’s sing a redcoat tune:
    We win you lose
    You are losers
    We will always win
    You will always lose
    Everybody thinks like we do and not like you do (as if that means shit to us, thus proving their need for others to feel exactly like them)
    You hate America
    You bash Bush and get nothing done (they are here on this website also, but don’t seem to understand their duplicity)
    You are commies
    You love Stalin
    It’s Clinton’s fault
    Kerry kills babies and lies

    I am sure I have missed a few, but their songs never die. So, these are their list of diddies and they never deviate. I say talk about them but not to the. Of course I had to take exception when I read a post that some numbnuts wrote about the people not leaving N.O. because they wanted to stay and party. I got very upset with that – it was pretty much psycopathic. It is easy to drive them even battier. Remember, like a crying baby that can’t have the candy in the grocery store line, the only reason they are here is attention.


  311. BNL says:

    It is obvious, the outrage the American people have when you look at the amount of comments made after these stories of Bush’s incompetence. It as if everyone is screaming into their PC’s or at the t.v. screens their frustration with this president and his administration. I only wish those in New Orleans, Mississippi, and Alabama knew that the rest of America wants to help them but can’t because of the total ineptitude of FEMA. People and supplies are being turned away. Canada has planes on the ground with supplies and help but has not been allowed to come. The President said “Just send cash.” to all the countries who have offered to bring in help. It’s terrible and they will never know how helpless we feel and how we know that you feel left behind. Our only hope is to pray that America never forgets what this President has done and he and his administration will pay in the next election, if not sooner.


  312. Nick Caine says:

    I’m with Ron #283 and tired of you Bush bashers. He says he hopes you all drown in the fecal morass of New Orleans.

    Correct me if I’m wrong here, but I’d bet you rotten liberals would prefer to be knee deep in it, especially if you were standing on a Bush supporters shoulders.

    Comment by Joe Sixpack

    If you’re with Ron then, Sixpack. That must mean you’re a ‘RACIST’ scumbag. The link that he has put on one of his posts #285. Is a link to a BNP website. The BNP (British National Party) formerly known as the British National Front.

    The BNP are a racist, fascist organization, with their auspices in Nazism.

    So Sixpack, are you still with Ron?

    And as for you Ron, you make me sick. Are you actually British, or an American Republican? If you are British, then promoting racism in any way or form, is against the law.


  313. backspace says:

    I recall Clinto being accused of holding up air traffic in LAX for a haircut. Turned out to be a total myth, but what would you expect from the right?

    Now we see Bush in a White House approved photo-op grounding a helicopter and crew that could be used to save lives for some nice visual “context”. I also notice at least one Governor, and umpteen government officials who could be busy helping with the recovery effort being tied up listening to Bush, and reassuring him that it ain’t his bad.

    Imagine what good could be done by these people if they didn’t have to dedicate so much of their day covering the President’s ass. Imagine if all those folks who were so worried about a mythical Clinton haircut were to be just as concerned about the very real time and effort wasted on the President’s politization of the hurricane.


  314. Brian says:

    JACK on CNN in regard to PHOTO OPS

    “IT’S EMBARRASSING”


  315. mparker says:

    This is the first time in 37 years that work on the levee has stopped due to lack of federal funds. The men rebuilding the levee worked for a year without being paid and only stopped when they could not afford the needed materials. Bush cut funding for the levee by 44% which is the most it has ever been cut. Cheney is still on vacation. Rove just had a photo op with the jerks protesting Cindy Sheehan (after she left).Condi is buying shoes and saw a really funny Monte Python play in NY and Bush’s totally inexperienced head of FEMA has blamed the victims for not getting out and Bush has finally shown up 5 days after the fact. Bush is preaching compassion for victims and zero tolerance for looters who in this case may very well be desperate victims. I hope it’s not the kind of shooting compassion we have in Iraq. This is all George Bush. No respect for Science . No reality required. The experts know nothing. No compassion. Tax Break = Levee Break would be seriously considered by a good leader and having been considered the protection of our own Citizens must win out. Disaster = profits is more Bush’s mentality. Look at Iraq.


  316. wisedup says:

    don’t even think about responding to joe 6 brain cells


  317. WaltTheMan says:

    Re: 313,
    He has that many, I was thinking that a new life form had devolved.



  318. Rationalperson says:

    1.Before the storm struck the whole gulf coast was declared by the “idiot” Bush as a disaster area. This same blog would be blaming him for wasting money on the preparation for the storm that never came.

    2. The Army Corps of Engineer Levees on the Mississippi were not breached, but the New Orleans Levee commission levees did. The New Orleans Levee commission did not ask for help until well after the breach. Unfortunately a sign of Turfdom. Now the Breaches are being stemmed. Folks, this is a huge storm. All of Louisiana was affected as well as, as always, forgotten, Mississippi. The area is huge.

    3. Communication- No phones, no means to communicate and local officials who quite frankly did not step up as leaders.

    4. Poverty and Ignorance. If anyone has ever visited New Orleans there is a trememdous amount of Poverty. The corruption and lack of education and yes, crime has kept the city from joining in the economic boom of the rest of the South. We cannot accept poverty and poor leaders to be continued in place. This poverty and ignorance, plus the resistance to a Mandatory to evacuate prior to the storm are a significant reason for the suffering, people should have left, and the city and state failed to get people out.

    5. Something like this happened to Charleston, SC. Mayor Riley was able to turn that city around and make it much greater, hopefully a new leader will step up on the city and state level. The current leaders are not what are needed.

    6. The national guard are as highly trained as ever in their history. The huge amount of needs

    7. Finally, this is a huge area, we are talking massive. The economic implications are incredible. Since much of our shipping, refining eggs are all in teh Gulf Coast basket we will see this over and over. It is time to grow up and start sharing the burden of energy production, gas drilling and pipelins all throughout the country.

    8. Really finally, Hell Hath no Fury as the kindness and Compassion of the American People.


  319. Neo-progressive says:

    #283. Ron the moron has been praying for us all day! I don’t know what religion that drone is practicing, but it must be a religion that does not include charity, compassion, and humanity.


  320. Neo-progressive says:

    #255. Laura Bush had her own Marie-Antoinette momemt this afternoon. She said that “things would go back to normaal when the kids go back to school”.

    What schools? What is she smoking?

    By the way, Don, I am with you. You are a compassionate, honest, decent, human being. You have MORAL VALUES, unlike the Bush shills who clamor to be pro-life but have total disregard for human lives, if they are not supporting that obscene piece of garbage of a President!


  321. Matt says:

    My last post before the weekend. In response to #293:

    1. Clinton did some good things during his 8 years in office and I commend him for that; however, he did some bad things as well. He didn’t take out Bin Laden when he had the chance, he fooled around with Monica and made a mockery of the presidential position.

    2. True statement, no arguement there.

    3. Not true. Everyone receives a tax break, not just the wealthy. Iraq is a necessary war.

    4. NO ONE knew that this much damage would take place due to the storm. IF they did there would not be 1 person left in New Orleans when that storm made land.

    5. Your opinion, but I disagree. I believe that (as an ex-Army enlistee and officer) we are over there for a good and just reason. They need our help. Don’t believe everything you see on TV, interview some soldiers coming home and ask them what’s going on in Iraq. Then and only then will you be able to measure the true good that we are doing in Iraq.

    6. All leaders and past president’s have some sort of stake in the “Global Warming” pot. So do you and I. I’m sure you have no reservations in regards to driving your vehicles? Right?

    7. Not true. You need to do some better research about why the Depression took place. Don’t try to blame that solely on Republicans.

    You can question our leaders and the decisions they make. I implore you to do so, because that’s what makes our country better. But don’t ridicule OUR nation’s leader based on a decision that he (and the MAJORITY of our nation) believes it the right one to make. Can you honestly sit there and think that he is trying to hurt our country, or poor people, or a certain race? That would be preposterous. I suggest you and the rest of your friends on this board take some of the energy that you have in criticizing every move that President Bush makes and put it to good use by helping out these people.

    A quick point to ponder: Would you (Honestly) support President Bush and the Republican government had they had 10,000 troops at the ready, evacuated all people, etc….????


  322. rationalperson says:

    Excellent Post by tony. The Mayor and Governor, rather than state, the truth that the storm was huge and caught them as well as all unprepared and showed them for the incompetants that they are. They could have used their own school buses and transportation buses to get people out of town. But, that would have cost them money in their budgets and they want that to pad the payroll and pay consultants like all politicians in this venal country of ours.

    Hey, maybe Mayor Nagin and the Louisiana Governor could have used these before the storm struck:

    http://news.yahoo.com/ news?tmpl=story&u=/ 050901/ 480/ flpc21109012015

    Perhaps to ferry the poor out of the city into inland colesiums, gyms, and other shelters??? If we’re going to blame anyone, blame these 2.

    Comment by Tony — September 2, 2005 @ 3:46 pm


  323. owlbear1 says:

    4. NO ONE knew that this much damage would take place due to the storm. IF they did there would not be 1 person left in New Orleans when that storm made land.
    ==============
    Except for FEMA and The Corp of Engineers…

    Matt, you do realize you are worshipping the “I had NO IDEA and NEVER IMAGINED” President?


  324. gedette says:

    Why does he get away with it? Because Democratic leadership has no spine. Why are they so afraid of this monkey? I want to see them replaced with people who have the courage to OPPOSE the idiot.

    WE NEED AN OPPOSITION PARTY. Not an army of sycophants.

    Furthermore, the media, oh the media, what are they good for?


  325. Brian S. says:

    There good for….Scaring bus drivers and medical personell, so they wont drive into NO.


  326. wisedup says:

    how many bottles of good water will a $1,000 pair of shoes get you?….Mis Rice I’m talking to YOU.


  327. $hrub says:

    Good foaks will help other foaks and many foaks are working round the clock so things get back to normal for foaks. Let me tell you ,there are a lot of good, dedicated foaks.


  328. Alan H. says:

    This is………….the most unbelievable $h1t I have ever seen in my life.

    It is almost halucinogenic…we have a natural distaster…the president and the Federal government do essentially NOTHING….ARE YOU KIDDING ME!@!#!


  329. Easter Lemming Liberal News says:

    Haley Barbour, congratulating Bush in the press conference, was the one who convinced Bush to pull out of the Kyoto Treaty and reverse his 2000 campaign pledge to reduce greenhouse admissions. A GOP lobbyist for oil companies – which is how he got all his money to run for office and become governor.

    Easter Lemming News Digest
    Formerly #1 on Liberal News


  330. jason baker says:

    I think I finally figured it out… Idiot walking around like he has a clue, constantly covering up his mistakes, stupid smile on his face most of the time… He’s not a real President, he is just another creation of Ricky Gervais. Has to be… No one could really be like that. Could they????


  331. Neo-progressive says:

    #319. “Fooling around with Monica” was definitely a matter of national security, was it not? Idiot!

    If anyone is making a mockery of the Presidential office, it is that dumb, illiterate, unsophisticated, unworldly, arrogant, bratty, rich, and self-indulgent, kid, who has never done an honest day of work in his pathetic life; a sub-human who dodged the draft through family connections and could not even complete his work in the Texas National Guard after burdening the taxpayer with the millions of dollars needed for his training as a fighter pilot; who has had the Bush family covering up for his stupid mistakes all his life; who has been an utter failure at running companies; who was governor of Texas only because his family specializes in influence-peddling (and happily signed off on all these executions even though he is PRO-LIFE).

    The guy is an utter failure. And he is, quite clearly, a SOCIOPATH: he has no idea what empathy means because he has been sheltered from real life problems his entire useless life. he is also the son of a socioptah: Barbara Bush, who, in her infinite wisdom, declared at the onset of the Iraq war that she did not see the need for TV reporting of casualties because her “beautiful mind” could not be bothered by such pedestrian things…

    Get it now? This President is a psycho.

    At least, Clinton did not fool an entire nation into a war of choice, was not responsible for 1,800+ deaths in the Iraq hellhole, 15,000 U.S. soldiers maimed physically and psychologically. and of course, we are still counting.

    The dead and displaced in New Orleans strike close to home. The psycho will have to answer to his employers — We, The People — at some point.

    So, you Bushites can go on living in a different reality — one where one abnegates all thought process in favor of cultish following — but keep in mind (if you still have one) that the backlash and retribution are coming.


  332. Kiva Oraibi says:

    What could be done instead?

    We were walking with U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Russel Honore and his military team from the convention center and there are still hundreds of people on the street. They are just sitting there in terrible circumstances.

    We came across one young African American mother. She had twin young infants in her arms. She was trying to walk in this terrible heat and she apparently was so exhausted that the babies were half falling out of her arms.

    It was at that point that Gen. Honore just stopped cold in the middle of the street. He went up to this woman and said, “We’re going to get you help.” He took both of those babies and handed them to his soldiers. They also evacuated another mother and her baby.


  333. JZ says:

    are you f’ing kidding me?

    That was a press conference, were you there? Do you know that they parked that helicopter in the background for a photo op? How do you know whether or not it might just be getting refueled.

    Are you seriously going to dicount the 5000 rescues the coast guard has made because of a need to bag Bush.

    I am not saying Bush is in the right or anything. I just think that with all the effort you people are making to be negative you could be trying to DO something with your time.

    If you feel they are not doing a good job, how are you helping to make it run better? What are YOU doing to help, how are YOU saving anyone? How much of YOUR time have you giving to the poeple in NOLA?


  334. Evil Shill says:

    Mr. Gary Kleppe,

    I agree with you, Republicans as well as Democrats name call way too often. Ryan Neat had a good point but then resorted to name calling which took attention away from his stated point and focused it on childish behavior.

    Credibility is important when you want to make a point. Whether the audience chooses to listen is not for the writer/speaker to decide. Surely you would agree that calling your audience names will not convince them to even consider what you have to say.

    I was just trying to foster a lively debate among adults with different opinions. That is how you learn.

    Name calling will only foster cheap shots and cute quips in response and not well thought out ideas.

    Evil Shill


  335. Bill says:

    The most amazing thing about this site is the way these pathetic babies can’t take any criticism of the President without crying big wet tears of recrimination. Look, amid some of the most incompetent governance we’ve ever witnessed, amid the death and destruction caused by federal government policy, aren’t we obliged to complain in a free society. Does being a good American simply mean shutting up for these trolls? What pathetic excuses for Americans.


  336. Neo-progressive says:

    #331. Are you stupid? Most of us have made financial contributions to charities.

    I am taking a leave of absence from my job — unpaid — to go volunteer with the Red Cross. This is a humanitarian disaster, you moron, due to the imbecility and indifference of this incompetent Administration.

    I am a New Yorker: I escaped with my life from Tower I on 9/11. I UNDERSTAND the misery and the need for help.

    So, shut up. get off your fat, lazy, complacent, ass, and do something yourself, moron!


  337. Ryan Neat says:

    Matt,

    You’re an idiot, and here’s why.

    > 1. Clinton did some good things during his 8 years in
    > office and I commend him for that; however, he did
    > some bad things as well. He didn’t take out Bin Laden
    > when he had the chance, he fooled around with Monica
    > and made a mockery of the presidential position.

    First of all, Clinton gave the order to take out bin laden, but the military failed to execute his order successfully, or do you forget about the cruise missile that he sent to afghanistan?
    As for making a mockery, it wasn’t Clinton who made this private matter a best selling book – it was your fellow CONservatives who had no respect for him, and wanted to smear him. You blame the victim in this case – he had a private affair, which didn’t deserve to become a public one. The only slime is the crap you spew, not what clinton did.

    “3. Not true. Everyone receives a tax break, not just the wealthy. Iraq is a necessary war.”

    Liar/Idiot. The ‘Alternative Minimum Tax’ is applied to the middle class – and actually produces a tax INCREASE under bush.

    > 4. NO ONE knew that this much damage would take place
    > due to the storm. IF they did there would not be 1
    > person left in New Orleans when that storm made land.

    Actually they did. It was previously predicted that a category 5 hurricane hitting New Orleans would produce 100 billion in damage and 25,000 dead. This information was well published and well known by the army core of engineers. It was the cheap conservatives in congress that refused to spend the 2.5 billion dollars that would have been required to produce a reliably levy that would withstand this.

    > 5. Your opinion, but I disagree. I believe that (as
    > an ex-Army enlistee and officer) we are over there
    > for a good and just reason. They need our help. Don’t
    > believe everything you see on TV, interview some
    > soldiers coming home and ask them what’s going on in
    > Iraq. Then and only then will you be able to measure
    > the true good that we are doing in Iraq.

    Well that’s just crap. Even army commanders have stated that it’s a mess and only getting worse, and that we’ve screwed up the invasion and occupation. You’re a former soldier? That explains the brainwashing that has obviously cleansed you of your rational and logical brain centers… The weak of mind often lose their cognitive abilities when they become indoctrinated in the military…

    > 6. All leaders and past president’s have some sort of
    > stake in the “Global Warming” pot. So do you and I.
    > I’m sure you have no reservations in regards to
    > driving your vehicles? Right?

    You confuse a ’stake’ with ‘outright failure’. The reality is most democrats have pushed for conservation, environmental and even CO2 controls – it’s always CONservatives like you that block it with political and pseudo science nonsense….

    I take public transit when I can – so you’d be wrong again – but you must be used to that by now even if you have trouble admitting it.

    > 7. Not true. You need to do some better research
    > about why the Depression took place. Don’t try to
    > blame that solely on Republicans.

    Research says it’s definitely republicans. Every Republican president has had a recession during their presidency – even those that follow another republican president. Republicans have always been horrible stewards of the economy. The three largest economic booms of the 20th century were all under democratic presidents – and two were under democratic congresses, the 3rd was under a mix of democratic and republican congresses.

    > You can question our leaders and the decisions they
    > make. I implore you to do so, because that’s what
    >makes our country better.

    Thanks for your approval but that’s my right.

    > But don’t ridicule OUR nation’s leader based on a
    > decision that he (and the MAJORITY of our nation)
    > believes it the right one to make.

    And again you’re an idiot. The right to disent and criticize is the very definition of being american. What you ask is that we be fascists or british citizens who could not critize the crown – and in fact the REASON we have free speech. Get a clue you loser!

    > Can you honestly sit there and think that he is
    > trying to hurt our country, or poor people, or a
    > certain race? That would be preposterous.

    You’re right it would be, and that’s why it is so sad. He isn’t trying to hurt the country – he’s just so incompetent that he does so out of selfish, self absorbed and ill informed nonsense. I beleve he’s so deluded (as are you) that he believes that a tax break to the wealthy stimulates the economy, despite the fact that the OPPOSITE has consistently been proven to be true. I have a degree in economics – and I can tell you that the republican pseudo economics is as much nonsense as the pseudo science of creationism. The bar has become so low, and the noise is so great, most americans don’t even now what lying bags of crap both theories are.

    > I suggest you and the rest of your friends on this
    > board take some of the energy that you have in
    > criticizing every move that President Bush makes and
    > put it to good use by helping out these people.

    Unlike you, we can chew gum and walk at the same time. Your implication in this statement that we’re doing nothing (despite the links for charities on the main site pages) is insulting, self indulgent and frankly consistent with the insanity you call conservatism. You delude yourself into black and white answers, with us or against us, helping or not helping, and you’re just full of crap…

    > A quick point to ponder: Would you (Honestly) support
    > President Bush and the Republican government had
    > they had 10,000 troops at the ready, evacuated all
    > people, etc….????

    Yeah, I was out of the country when this happened, and in fact I assumed this is what had happened. But then again I had 8 years of clinton being effective – so I’m not used to the utter level of incompetence of this government and its idiot apologists (that would be you).


  338. Kath says:

    He smirks, makes chopping motions and spits out his words in an effort to be presidential and reassure the country. You know what proves he is a moron, that those folks in the gulf coast had no access to tv, radio cause they were trying to survive. So who the fk was he speaking to, his so-called Base. If the world ever doubted the leadership of GW Bush, they now have proof that is he is unfit, out of touch, and should be impeached.


  339. Ryan Neat says:

    Evil,

    I take Dewey’s comments to heart. He said “I told my republican friends I’d stop telling the truth about them, when they stop lying about me”. Calling someone an idiot isn’t name calling when it’s true…


  340. Ryan Neat says:

    Matt,

    In your stupidity you claim the liberals are doing nothing – I guess you missed the news that Moveon.org alone has secured 49,000 beds for the victims. What has the heritage foundation or swiftboat organizations done? You guys are slugs!


  341. Athiest says:

    From the NYTimes

    “One lasting lesson that has to be drawn from the Gulf Coast’s misery is that from now on, the National Guard must be treated as America’s most essential homeland security force, not as some kind of military piggy bank for the Pentagon to raid for long-term overseas missions. America clearly needs a larger active-duty Army. It just as clearly needs a homeland-based National Guard that’s fully prepared and ready for any domestic emergency”


  342. cmw says:

    Bob Shieffer on CBS evening news lied at the very end of his broadcast. TO protect his friend Bush he lied and said “President BUsh toured New Orleans today”

    President BUsh did not come within 30 miles of New Orleans, except to fly over it.

    Now this is not only an egregious lie it is criminally culpable – Bob Shieffer is now participating in a coverup of the criminally negligent homicide of thousands of people in New Orleans who died after Katrina had passed due to the negligence and indifference of the Bush government.


  343. Bill says:

    Bob Shieffer is a Bush family golfing buddy. You just can’t expect much from a shill like him.


  344. cmw says:

    Bill
    I know he’s a personal friend of the Bush’s and I’ve called CBS CBSNEWS, and i’ve emailed demanding that Bob SHieffer apologize to the dead and dying in New Orleans. THis lie will not go unnoticed and hopefully not unpunished.


  345. cmw says:

    I;m going to email congress people as well

    Bob Shieffer’s statement was so quick and so intentional a cover up, a pay back, a spin, a deceptive attempt to protect his buddies, if he weren’t covering up the deaths of thousands it might b e excusable, but it is a criminal act. to cover up criminal behavior is obstruction of justice.



  346. Devin Leonard says:

    This is the final proof of the utter stupidity and incometence of the Bush Administration and thier moronic leader. George Bush has had his head up his ass ever since he was 16 years old, and now it’s so far up their the “Jaws Of Life” couldn’t get it out.

    The failure of the Federal Govt. to help it’s own people, is a sickening example of just how callous and incompetent Republicans and George Bush really are.


  347. cmw says:

    Bush needs to be indicted for criminally negligent homicide of thousands who have died and are dying right this minute, not directly due to Katrina, but due to the malfeasance of the US govt. And any news anchor, like Bob Shieffer, who tries to cover up Bush’s criminal behavior with lies, should also be brought to justice. The time for accepting and tolerating the spin is over, especially when they start spinning to cover the deaths of infants, of mothers stumbling down rubble strewn streets near death struggling to hold their infant in their arms.
    This is equivalent to what the nazis did to the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto


  348. cmw says:

    In just five short days, the Bush regime has managed to kill 1000s in New Orleans, Hitler would be proud.


  349. Marie says:

    #281 Nick
    From across the pond, you have a better perspective than many in this country. Our president is a profane excuse for a leader, which has been demonstrated numerous times during the past 5 years, and this week has surpassed all his previous failures, lies and chicanery. I don’t know how we will bring him down, but we will certainly try. I fear the further damage that will occur under his incompetent reign – this boy-king.


  350. cmw says:

    #281
    Bush may be waiting for armaghedon and the rapture, but I think he’s going to be surprised at the nature of the conflagration that consumes him. He didn’t have the guts to get down on the ground in New Orleans. You can’t go around killing people for very long before they start fighting back and i don’t mean at the polls.


  351. Marie says:

    #329 Neo-progressive says it all.


  352. Justine says:

    I have watched the BBC news the last few nights and really, I’m embarrassed. We have fallen so far, so fast.


  353. Marie says:

    #335 Ryan Neat — I haven’t seen your posts for a while; I remember your saying you would be away — I am glad to see your thoughtful comments. Some of us do not even reply to the trolls here any more because they cannot accept the truth about their beloved leader, so they bash us and all who disagree with them, in an attempt to throw us off topic.
    This week, Bush has shown us and the world his vacant mind, his false compassion, his gross incompetence, and that we all suffer because he has appointed his equally incompetent friends to critical posts in the government. He is a living Potemkin village; a cardboard facade covering up the emptiness.


  354. angryenough? says:

    if we’re finally angry enough, we need to go to washington 9/24-26…if we can, we should show up.
    http://www.unitedforpeace.org


  355. Justine says:

    Does anyone know why in the world they are not using military bases to house the refugees? Many are designed and readied for just this purpose.


  356. Richard Musser says:

    Impeachment is the only word I want to read or hear from this moment on. George Bush is fired. A very bad job and a very bad person. Impeachment is the word our elected officials will only speak. No more, no more, no more. God save us.


  357. Michelle says:

    I always have to laugh when anyone says that W is a christian. In my opinion he lies everytime he opens his mouth. He is worthless as a person and a president. He makes me ashamed to be an American.
    If this death and destruction had happened in Palm Beach, FL or Kennebunkport, Maine he would of been there Monday night.
    It amazes me that there are still people defending this asshole.
    What a joke.


  358. Tom the Barbarian says:

    I’m not sure why the helicopters were in the background but I’d like to hazard a guess. I watched the “briefing” on TV and noticed that while a lot of the talking was going on there was someone up around the rotor area of one of them.

    So here’s my guess: They were in the hangar so the maintenance people could work on them.

    Now I know that some of you will be skeptical, after all, we all know the coast guard recently switched to the new improved magic helicopter that will run forever without the need for fuel, lubrication or routine maintenance and inspection. Oh, and also they never have any malfunctions at all. That just shows how smart that Rove guy is. He pulls in a few helicoptors for backdrops and then puts a maintenance guy on one to try to fool us into thinking he’s working on it. But he can’t fool the people here!!


  359. muddmike says:

    Response to Matt #319

    3) Yea, I got a $30 break in my taxes, while people making over $1 million got tax breaks of $100,000 or more. The repeal of the estate tax only affects the top 2% of the population.

    4) Yes, they have done computer simulations and knew exactly how much water would get in. They also made the decision to only protect for a Category 3 hurricane because the cost-benefit-analysis did not value human beings (particularly poor blacks) very much. Since they only knew that it was coming a few days, there is no way they could have evacuated everyone in time. It takes a long time to move half a million people. The only way to protect those people in that place was to build adequate levees.

    The lie that no one could possibly have guessed that the water would go over the levees is as bad as Condi’s lie, “no one could have guessed that terrorists would use airplanes as weapons.” During the summer of 2001 there were several memos mentioning this specific type of attack by terrorists. Either Condi was totally negligent in her job as Security Advisor, or she lied!!! Either one should have cost her her job, not gotten her promoted to Sec. Of State!

    5) I feel for those fighting in Iraq. However, they spend most of their time in the green zone or in vehicles. Also, they have to convince themselves that they are there for a good reason, since otherwise they will join the growing numbers of soldiers who have deserted or killed themselves. Also, remember that they get most of their info from the military chain of command. They only see a small portion of the country, how can they claim to know what is happening all over a country as large as CaliforniaThey never read the articles about the fact that most women have lost the good jobs they had under Saddam, or the fact that Christian churches were being bombed and many Christians have fled the country. Also, have they heard that Iraq’s new closest ally is IRAN!
    Under Sharia law many more people will be oppressed by the Shiites than by Saddam. Is this what you call “helping”? Under Saddam only those who opposed him got punished. They also had jobs, electricity water, sewage treatment food, etc., things that are now in short supply in Iraq, even more thann two years and $250 billon+.

    6) Yes, we are all responsible, but a GOOD leader would be able to get the people to change. Carter started changes, but Reagan did away with them.
    I drive a car that gets 50% better gas mileage than the average car on the road and only drive when necessary. Unfortunately there is no mass transit within reach of my home.
    Had we kept with Carter’s plan we would not be having most of the problems that we are now having. When peak oil hits in a few years, we are cooked, because even a crash program will take 20 years to solve the problem of no oil. More drilling won’t help because the oil is not there.

    7) The Republican congress let the bankers and robber barons go wild which was the main reason for the depression. The current derivative market is even worse than the bank problems back then.

    “But don’t ridicule OUR nation’s leader based on a decision that he (and the MAJORITY of our nation) believes it the right one to make.”

    If you have seen the recent polls, the MAJORITY of people now think Bush was wrong on Iraq. Also, just because they were able to delude most of the population does not mean it is right. Americans are among the worst educated people in the developed nation. Since the “liberal media” is owned by the corporations and many people only get news from FOX and Rush or other right wing liars, they are very easy to control. I know several fools who admit that those are their only “news” sources.

    “I suggest you and the rest of your friends on this board take some of the energy that you have in criticizing every move that President Bush makes and put it to good use by helping out these people.”

    I wish that I could go and help, but I have a job that I cannot leave anytime.

    Also, only about 22% of the eligible voters voted for Bush in 2004, and most of those were fooled by the lie, such as those spewed out by the Swift Boat liars.

    No, I don’t think he is intentionally trying to hurt poor people. He does give a DAMN about poor people. He is only trying to help his rich buddies to make even more money. The destruction of the country and the impoverished poor are just “collateral damage”. 100,000 dead Iraqis could attest to this, if they weren’t DEAD!

    “A quick point to ponder: Would you (Honestly) support President Bush and the Republican government had they had 10,000 troops at the ready, evacuated all people, etc….???? “
    If he had done that, I would support those actions. I would have supported him more if he had not set up New Orleans for the fall by cutting funds for the levees for the last three years. The additional cost would have only been a few dollars per American per year. Bush is the only pResident who has EVER cut taxes during a war. We are all going to pay for that! The interest on the money spent on Iraq will exceed $12 BILLION/year FOREVER! What else could we have done with that money?


  360. Ron says:

    I watched this photo op this morning live on MSNBC. I’ve done media training and crisis communications training for a living for 20 years, so I appreciate the challenges public officials face in these circumstances. Having said that, I have never seen a more cynical and exploitative photo op in my life. The mutual sychophancy bordered belongs on Comedy Central and the “on the fly briefing” by the governors of the president would have been laughable if they weren’t dealing with life and death issues.

    I wanted to shout out the famous line from the McCarthy hearings: “Have you no shame?”


  361. bubbleboy says:

    Why does Bush shake someones hand and then turn to look at someone else, you will see this time and time again. Also you can tell that he has trouble focusing on any object or sitting still during a conference.
    Bush’s brain is FRIED!!!!

    If our votes were actually counted then we would’nt be in this mess with a dry drunk, coke-head.


  362. Amazed says:

    I knew that Bush wouldn’t be anywhere NEAR the Dome. Too many angry people that his handlers wouldn’t be able to control. And we all know that Bush isn’t allowed near anyone who doesn’t agree with him and his policies.

    The only thing missing was a big sign in the background proclaiming “mission accomplished” or some other platitude.


  363. Cheech says:

    Yeah, everything always proceedes normally when the Prez is around like traffic patterns in a city when his limo is driving through, air traffic when he is on AF1,or closing down half of Catoctin Park when he goes to Camp David.
    Mechanics usually stand at attention and get cleaned up in the middle of work too.


  364. Nick Caine says:

    Marie, I just hope that like minded Americans like you good self. Can do something, to make George W. Bush pay for what he’s done, (or hasn’t done). It’s distressing to see the pictures from New Orleans, and other parts of America that have been affected, absolutely disgraceful.

    I’m lucky I get to watch the BBC, and get a true reflection of what is going on. Today I watched as a large group of African-Americans, were filmed breaking down in front of the cameras. They were begging for help, for some food and water, everyday things that we take for granted. If I didn’t know that this report was coming from America, I could of easily of believed these pictures were coming from war-torn zone in Africa, they were that bad.

    Ethiopia, Eritrea, Angola, Zambia, Mozambique. No, New Orleans and Mississippi.

    Now is the time for Americans who have been too silent for too long. To stand up to Bush, and say enough is enough Mr. President. He needs to be made accountable, by the electorate of America, for his failures, both at home and abroad. He needs to answer the questions that are being asked, but never answered, Bush needs to respond to the criticism of his handling of the war in Iraq, and his response to the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, have been a miserable failures.

    Good luck Marie, and the other contributors to this forum, who want to make George W. Bush accountable for his misdeeds. I just wish I had a vote, and could vote him out of office.

    P.S. Put ‘miserable failure’ in the google search engine, and see what you get. So very apt, and so very true.


  365. Craig Struthers says:

    Presidemt Clinton cut short his overseas diplomatic trip to New Zealand to return to the USA prior to Hurricane Floyd making landfall. Clinton actually was there to help the people afterward. This was an amazing thing because it gave the people a sense that the nation was with them.
    President bush mastubated, screwed his dog in Texas and then went to a party in San Diego while our country suffered the worst natural disaster in any of our lifetimes. Anyone who supports GWB is themselves un-American and should be tried as a traitor during times of war and national emergency.


  366. toasterhead says:

    Nick Caine – I think you’re being awfully cruel to Angola, Zambia, and Mozambique by comparing their leadership to the Bush administration. (Though I’ll grant you – Eritrea and Ethiopia are both pretty close in terms of pure incompetence and asshatery).


  367. Eddie says:

    Why were these people left in this city? Why was anyone left in the position to not have a way of getting out because they didn’t have the resources to leave? Here is a picture of the Public School Bus lot.

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015

    Why were 205 school busses left in the city to flood instead of being used to pull more people out?

    What do you want to bet that the City Busses are also still there?

    This was not a shocking unimagined occurrence. People in New Orleans have been talking about this for decades. Why aren’t the City, State, and Federal officials not being arrested for negligent Homicide for not having a plan about how to get people out?


  368. WaltTheMan says:

    The school buses were left behind because of the No-Child-Left-Behind mandates. Obviously, Eddie does not know the difference between a kiss and a vehicle; he must have been left behind as a child.


  369. helen says:

    I looked up the word republican in my dictionary the other day. It was between reptike and repugnant. I could mot have put it in a more fitting place.


  370. helen says:

  371. ladyfrancesca says:

    My family booked flights from California to DC today to attend the massive Anti-War March in DC on September 24-26. For all of you who can possibly attend, please do so. There are buses taking groups of people from each state ( http://impeachbush.org/ – click on the war poster at the bottom right of your screen). It is imperative that we hold this administration accountable. We need to become as politically visible and active as possible. Blogging is great, but we need to take this to the next step.


  372. WaltTheMan says:

    Helen – do you mean reptile? I’m getting my Dict. out right now>


  373. helen says:

    Yes I mean reptile. My typing stinks.


  374. Eddie says:

    Walt the Man wrote

    “The school buses were left behind because of the No-Child-Left-Behind mandates.”

    What are you talking about?


  375. WaltTheMan says:

    Helen – s least the keys are next to each other – I’ll allow you one ‘misteak’ in this lifetime.


  376. WaltTheMan says:

    Re: 272
    The act contains a clause to the effect that education can not be interrupted unless there is a disaster. The word left out was ‘immanent’.


  377. Eddie says:

    WaltTheMan wrote

    “Re: 272
    The act contains a clause to the effect that education can not be interrupted unless there is a disaster. The word left out was ‘immanent’. ”

    That is the worst excuse I have heard since “No one imagined that people would use loaded planes as WMD”

    The mayor has the authority to commandeer any vehicles to aid in evacuation. He said that himself in his evacuation order Sunday morning.

    That may be the worst attempt at spin I have heard in at least a couple of days.


  378. Tom the Barbarian says:

    Re #365.

    I’ve been wondering the same thing. When the mayor of NO called for a “mandatory” evacuation I figured that, maybe, the next thing would be a plan to actually evacuate. I wonder how many people could have been evacuated to Baton Rouge in the course of a day with a fleet of 200 school buses. Of course, that would have required an actual plan. I blame Bush for this. He probably had Karl Rove beaming thought blocking mind rays at the mayor and his staff for weeks before the hurricane.


  379. Ron says:

    Ennui of the bush bashing must be near entelechy at this point, don’tcha think?

    Now, let’s have another solid round of 370 plus posts of more of the same.

    Did anybody learn something today? I doubt it berry much.

    Here is another history lesson for youse (since the suppressed real history of the United States has yet to be learned):

    Columbus and all of his fellow sailors were captured by the natives after he landed. After a period of time, the terrible actions committed against the native population enraged the leaders of the natives. Columbus and his fellow Spaniards were all to be executed. Columbus was a sly dog, though. He knew the stars. He knew that a lunar eclipse was going to take place in three days and communicated that information to the chief. After the lunar eclipse took place, the chief considered him a god and spared the lives of him and his men. Otherwise, you would have never heard of Columbus. Ain’t that sumthun?

    Return Manhattan to the Manhattan tribe. Anyone that is not of native American descent must leave. Anyone living in Ohio, Illinois, Arkansas, Kansas, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Ontario, Massachusetts, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Omaha, Nebraska, Iowa, Kentucky, Alabama, Oklahoma, Mississippi, etc. who is not of native American lineage must be extirpated from their dwellings. All of those states bear a native American language etymology or a name of an American Indian tribe. That leaves just about everybody in the United States, doesn’t it?

    The Trail of Tears from the eastern seaboard over to Oklahoma can be reversed. The Indian Removal Act of 1830 was the means used to chase native Americans away from the eastern seaboard so the immigrants from around the world could steal Indian land. Pretty good deal for the immigrants. Everybody can go back to where they came from. How does that sound?

    Anybody care to return to Europe or Africa or Asia. Well?

    We can thank the Native American Indians for being so generous to the entire world. Is that good enough or do you want more?

    Learn something.

    There is an excuse for ignorance, but not for stupidity.

    Now, get back to your bush bashing, idiots.


  380. WaltTheMan says:

    So, we’re back to 9/11 – get your Koolade at the DC mall. What goes around comes around.


  381. No To Criminals says:

    Personally, I’m particularly disgusted by this (excerpt):

    “And for the entire time Bush was in the state, the congressman said, a ban on helicopter flights further stalled the delivery of food and supplies.”

    FILTHY REPUBLICAN MAFIA (and to hell with all those useless, spineless turd-burglar Republican Lite Democrats as well)…

    P.S. Apparently, the Frist wank-stain wants to see his fellow Republican Mafia henchmen permanently repeal the estate tax (which will act as a very significant depressive force against charitable donation) within the next two weeks. Man, these political whores are the gift that just keeps on giving [your, and your childrens', nation away].

    ——————————————–
    Congressman Can’t Get Bush on the Line

    By DAVID PACE
    Associated Press Writer

    September 2, 2005, 10:38 PM EDT

    WASHINGTON — Thousands of people stranded in two swamped parishes south of New Orleans are just as desperate for supplies as those trapped in the city but can’t get the attention of federal disaster relief officials, their congressman said Friday.

    And to make matters worse, says Rep. Charlie Melancon, D-La., he was unable to deliver that message to President Bush during his visit to New Orleans because the president’s security detail couldn’t clear him to board Air Force One.

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    After waiting 90 minutes Friday while a U.S. marshal using a satellite phone repeatedly tried, and failed, to contact Bush’s plane — located just 300 yards away at New Orleans’ Armstrong airport — a disgusted Melancon left.

    “After an hour and a half of that, and two hours to get down there, I am now back on my way, without seeing the president, not accomplishing anything in my mind today. I’ve wasted time while people are dying in South Louisiana,” he said in a telephone interview. “It’s not personal to the president. It’s just that this whole thing has been handled terribly.”

    Melancon said the communications problems that kept him from meeting with Bush are symptomatic of the problems that have plagued the slow-moving federal response to the devastation left by Hurricane Katrina.

    In St. Bernard and Plaquemines parishes, just south of New Orleans, victims of the hurricane are still waiting for food and water and for buses to escape the floodwaters, Melancon said. And for the entire time Bush was in the state, the congressman said, a ban on helicopter flights further stalled the delivery of food and supplies.

    “I thank the president for his visit today, but it was more show than substance,” Melancon said. “Frankly, we needed action days ago.”


  382. Your Mom says:

    Ronny girl hung out here all day cause we are such idiotic simpletons. Did we hurt your feelings with our Bush bashing? Have you attached your self-worth to Bushco? Have you transfered your need for love onto GW and when we critisize him it’s like we criticized your real daddy who didn’t love you?
    Sorry Ronny girl but you can’t take the high road when you are with the dark side and you can’t go over us with a superior attitude when you guys do NOTHING right. Troll.
    Bash away people.


  383. Ron says:

    Since the anschluss of Canada is now complete, I included some new states of Canada, former provinces.

    Oh yeah, the Mormons must leave Utah and let the Utes have their land back.

    Get packing.


  384. Ron says:

    yeah, yeah, yeah… I’ve heard it all in my day. You and others of your ilk can sling insults all day long for all I care. It just doesn’t matter anymore. You’re all stupid old Adams. Your lust for blood is worse than the neocons. Idiots.


  385. Your Mom says:

    Hangin’ out where you’re not wanted or appreciated, now that’s intelligent. Trying to steal energy from others thinking you are in the know. Pathetic,fake middle of the road troll.


  386. Scott says:

    We will not rest until we track down the tearists that did this and make them pay.


  387. WaltTheMan says:

    OK, I found a link to Geraldo in tears:
    http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Hannity-Colmes-Smith-Rivera-freak-in-NO.wmv. It is not only G. but also Shep. I could puke after this – what is this nation decaying to?


  388. KJ Lovell says:

    #19, hell began for Americans when the first DUMBASS BUSH WAS PRESIDENT (WHILE RONNIE WAS ASLEEP)….

    We got to heaven when BILL CLINTON – BY THE WAY THE LAST LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT was in office.

    I suspect your bank account would NOT qualify you for dumbya’s haves and HAVE MORES.


  389. KJ Lovell says:

    #36 Worst President Ever.

    What a fricken embarassment to every citizen, republican and democrat alike.

    Comment by Steve

    NOPE, WHAT A FRICKEN EMBARASSMENT TO EVERY

    H U M A N!!!!!!


  390. KJ Lovell says:

    #47, YOU FORGOT TO BLAME THE GAYS….


  391. KJ Lovell says:

    Hey RON, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT BLACKS? AND THEIR VOTING? HOW ABOUT ABORTIION? HOW ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE?

    I THOUGHT SO…..

    LEAVE TROLL!


  392. KJ Lovell says:

    #60 THAT IS WHY CLINTON p r e s i d e n t CLINTON WAS SO LOVED! He was the REAL DEAL! STILL IS….

    CLINTON ACTED, CLINTON GOT RESULTS.


  393. KJ Lovell says:

    #81, WERE STAYING THE COURSE and being vigilant. (sarcasm)


  394. KJ Lovell says:

    Why am I an idiot?

    Comment by Ron

    because those that can DO!


  395. KJ Lovell says:

    #124 “Well there you go again” – thanks for stepping and showing your true colors Ned – brown, apparently.

    Comment by Terrytheturtle

    only his NOSE IS BROWN.


  396. KJ Lovell says:

    Lisa – it is always political considerations with people like yourself when assessing a situation. Get a muzzle – you’re bothering your neighbors.

    Comment by The Northeast Dilemma

    POT TALKING TO KETTLE…


  397. KJ Lovell says:

    #135, #125 — that’s it Gary, keep deluding yourself that the election was stolen. It can’t be that your guy ran an idiotic campaign and came off like some french aristocrat. No, the mean republicans stole it! Keep whining and you’ll keep losing.

    Comment by Concerned Conservative

    GET REAL, WHEN THE INDEPENDANT MEDIA COUNTED THE VOTES IN 2000 AND 2004 IT SHOWED DUMBYA LOST.

    It took the supreme court to APPOINT HIM in 2000, and in 2004 the BLACK BOXES showed he received 250% of the votes……… come on!

    YOU KNOW THE SCORE, OR AT LEAST YOU HAVE A CLUE,

    DO THE BUSH DANCE……DENY DENY DENY


  398. KJ Lovell says:

    I didn’t vote for Bush… ever. But, I don’t need to use constant invective and vitriole to criticize the man. You bush bashers make Stalin look like a saint.

    keep cursing the darkness, for krissakes.

    Comment by Ron

    yeah right who the hell did you vote for?


  399. Concerned Canadian says:

    To those stuck in this disaster, I’m sorry. I cannot fathom what it is like to be hit by a hurricane, especially of this caliber.
    As well, I’m sorry that your leader is incompetent. I’m sorry to all those who are suffering because of him. I’m sorry the person who should care the most has abandoned you. He took his job, and much of the world does beleive that he should be on his hands and knees to do anything in his power to help you. Standing there and joking around will do nothing to better this situation, or waiting almost a week to acknowledge the dire need of his people, the state of devastation that has changed the very face of our continent in less than a day.
    We pity you, as we frown upon your leader (as does much of this world). He does not deserve to govern you. I’m sorry.


  400. KJ Lovell says:

    I want to see Bush in the Convetion Center today walking though it from one end to the other.

    Comment by Cee

    THAT YOU WILL NEVER SEE, AS HE IS A CHICKENHAWK COWARD.


  401. Concerned Canadian says:

    I’d like to correct myself, in the context

    “I’m sorry to all those who are suffering because of him.”

    Edit: “I’m sorry to all those who are suffering because of his failior to aid you”

    thanks


  402. Bob from Montana says:

    Didnt Bush refuse aid from canada, What a fool….

    And all this talk of Dem bashing repub and repub bashing dem is making my head hurt….

    Both partys suck and bush is obviously the spawn of satan.


  403. Yil says:

    HELICOPTERS GROUNDED!

    I can’t remember where I read it, but for security reasons all helicopters in the area of the president were grounded as is normally the case because he’s a travelling no-fly zone… That means that for duration of his photo op at the N.O. Airport all helicopter relief and recovery efforts in the city were suspended.

    Way to go George!


  404. Brian S. says:

    The government was offered and turned down…
    1. Water, Food, medicine, other supplies and personell form 20+ countries.
    2.Busses from Greyhound.
    3.Cheaper barrels of oil from various countires.
    4.Some states offered to send troops even before the hurricane hit. They weren’t given the ok to send them until thursday.

    Did I miss anything??

    If you support this president….you have got to be the dumbest mother f…. EVER.


  405. Brian says:

    5 days insured the deaths of thousands.



  406. muddmike says:

    #397 Ron

    >I didn’t vote for Bush… ever. But, I don’t need to >use constant invective and vitriole to criticize the >man. You bush bashers make Stalin look like a saint.

    I have been basing Bush’s ACTIONS! We need to wake up the people who only watch Fox and listen to Rush.

    At least we are bashing his TRUE actions, unlike the Repugnant attack teams that MAKE UP lies about anyone who opposes them!

    Remember all the Slime Boat lies about Kerry? Every claim they made was proven FALSE, but by then the damage had been done. Also, how about all of the lies they made up about McCain and Cleland, two men who sacrifice for their country while the neoCON chickenhawks stayed safe at home.

    The Democrats tried to use logic and resaon in their campaigns, and you see how far it got them. Unfortunatly too many people only respond to emotional appeals. That is why the claims that gays were trying to destroy the country worked so well.

    So, if bashing Bush is so bad, what should we be doing?


  407. Ron says:

    Mom, why did you feed me with your teats? You should have starved me to death when I was an infant. That is how much you really appreciate your own young and want them. You’re a bitch from hell, get back there, and quick.

    You betraying pig. You call yourself a liberal? Hah!

    Now, crawl back into the hole where you came from.

    the bush bashing slugfest continues, I see. what ingrates. May you all end up in concentration camps and let the Bolesheviks attack the camp. stupid asses

    especially you Mom, now leave this place pronto. get back to hell


  408. P. Campbell says:

    Good grief. You’d bitch because he didn’t go, you bitch because he did. There are plenty of intelligent things to bitch about,


  409. P. Campbell says:

    BTW, from Gov. Blanco’s own lips, Bush had to call and plead with the state government to evacuate.

    The feds (including the president) have screwed up. To say that the local government screwed up would be flattery.


  410. SpudgeBoy says:

    People please stop feeding this troll.

    This topic is about a taged photo op that DID happen, no matter what the trolls say. This photo op is no different than the guitar and cake photo ops. Just more evidence against Bush during his impeachment hearings.

    Stop feeding the trolls. They are intentionally trying to stear the topic ooff target.

    The topic is Bush is a weasel for continuing to use the poor people as camera fodder.


  411. Brian S. says:

    “BTW, from Gov. Blanco’s own lips, Bush had to call and plead with the state government to evacuate.”

    Were did you hear that? No one has mentioned that. Do you have a link?


  412. pressy says:

    hey, that picture doesn’t look like near new orleans at all. that was probably taken somewhere near d.c.


  413. Joe Sixpack says:

    Hey, I’m with Campbell #407 and #408. That tired-looking, worn out and exhausted democrat, Governor Blanco is to blame for all this. For instance, if she hadn’t let so many of her Louisiana National Guard troops go off to Iraq, they could be on the streets restoring order.

    But correct me if I’m wrong, Campbell, but I must have missed the source you have on that. Was that a quote from Bill O’Really or Ham Hannity?


  414. drumz says:

    Anybody that can stand and support Bush during this time is a raving lunatic!
    You people sicken me and your support of him is bordering on criminal. So please, keep those W bumper stickers on your cars, they make you an easy target.
    And also, realize that if you are able to incense a bush supporter you are doing democracy a great and desperately needed favor!

    IMPEACH BUSH NOW


  415. Aussie says:

    I have no interest in either democrat or republican. Im watching scenes that I have never seen before on my TV in Australia. Im thinking of many disasters closer to my region, including the MASSIVE tsunami in countries that have a GDP a tiny fraction of the USA and not nearly the resources to cope.

    I think of the humanitarian efforts and the co-ordination of assistance offered to ppl who make less than $1 US a day if they are lucky to earn a penny.

    I gaze at the images filling my screen hour after hour and I shake my head in wonder at a country in total failure. A country seemingly bereft of humanity and compassion lead by politicians on all sides who would prefer to feed billions of dollars into Lobby group interests and make the rich richer.

    I see a congress and whitehouse that bombs innocent ppl to feed paranoia into constituents who are dumbed with fear and ignorance. I see massive corruption on unprecedented scales.

    I see a government who wages war based on lies and cares nothing about life unless a person has 10s of millions in the bank or owns an oil well or controls.

    I see two parties that are largely incompetent fools leading ignorant masses who are scared and helpless, bereft of hope,

    I see the United States as a pitiful quivering mass of insecurity in a sea of paranoia and I watch their Commander In Chief strum a guitar, strut on a golf course and smirk at a camera while a city under his control drowns.

    I dont see one thing that could back claims of this being scenes from a ‘great’ country. I just see sorrow and incompetence.

    i dont see how any objective thinker could see anything else.


  416. Marie says:

    Has the count begun yet?
    How many times do you think we will hear the trite phrases. “We’re makin’ progress.” This is”hard work.”
    Chertoff is now telling everyone at a press conf. that he has confidence in the workers — how wonderful — who the hell has confidence in him?
    Recall that before Bush left for the area, he said the situation was unacceptable. Then Rove sets up this phony meeting with him and the rescue teams, and Bush proceeds to congratulate Michael Brown (FEMA) “Brownie, you’re doing a great job.”
    The man was cluelesss!!


  417. Marie says:

    People, if you can do so, get yourselves a survival kit and emergency plans set up for your family. In the event of another disaster, or enemy attack, the government will NOT be there for you. If you are sick, poor, or black you may be SOL entirely. So we may all have to depend on each other. As Blanche DuBois said in Streetcar Named Desire we may all have to “depend on the kindness of strangers.”


  418. Arby says:

    The arrival of General Russel Honore is the best news
    for NOLA since last Sunday. He takes charge…he takes responsibility…he works 20 hours every day…he knows what the hell he’s supposed to do and does it…he has command of the troops and tells it like it is. The General is three stars, let’s make him a four or five star. Check him out, great credentials: http://www.nationalveteransday.org/speakers/honore.htm

    Better yet, he is someone I’d like to see in the White House. Yessir, someone with real leadership, and he wears a baret.

    Say, just where are the Democrats in Washington on the distruction of NOLA and the survival of the Gulf Coast? Will we hear from them before the politics begin for re-election? What name-of-a-donkey comes to mind who will contest the dumbo elephants in the next national election? Come on, just ONE name of a Democrat stong enough to lead the country – Hillary?
    Naw,I vote for General Honore.


  419. YetAnotherRick says:

    http://tinyurl.com/crkal

    “Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding.”

    Instapundit has links to NOLA emergency plans. Remember, some things are true even if Instapundit says they are.


  420. Marie says:

    There is a lot of blame to go around here, people. But in a national emergency, the Prez is ultimately responsible. After all, he appointed FEMA dir. and put that under Chertoff’s Homeland Sec.
    FEMA (Michael Brown) is a former attorney for a horse association and his former group is under an investigation. Chertoff was a staffer in the backroom for Clinton’s impeachment. This was payback to him, and reward for “Brownie” being a good golfing buddy to Bush.


  421. Wow says:

    Wow I’m no bush supporter but to have a hatred so deep for the man that you’re sitting around talking about the politics of this nightmare is really scary. Lets all put our energy into helping those poor people rather then fighting about it what one group of idoits is doing.

    Help out all you can. http://www.networkforgood.org


  422. Scott Lofthus says:

    How dare you(Ron) utter any Norwegian on any of your Fascist,bush lovin spew on here..Must be something you picked up from someone as you could not possibly be Norskie….


  423. Gilberto says:

    Check out their shirts, with their sleeves all rolled up, no necktie, acting like they’re actually doing something. LOL!


  424. David says:

    >

    Hey BUSH LUVER;
    Your attempts at humor/satirereally aren’t working. You have the invective and illiteracy of the Bush supporting walking brain dead down pat,, that much i grant you… but somehow whatever bigger message you want to convey isn’t coming through.
    Here’s an idea, try posting in the future using a faux German accent. Change your handle from Bush Luver to something with “fuhrer” in it. Refer to Bush as “Glorious Leader” “Fearless Leader”
    If you need any help just check out the movie “The Producers” and model yourself on the Nazi symp playwright character

    That should work for you.


  425. buddy says:

    I do not vote so I am Partisan – but we all have to wake up and smell the coffee. This so called commander in chief sat for the best part of 10 minutes while our country was attacked during 9/11 (from where I am from we would say he s… his pants) and now he orders an evacuation but does nothing about it (eg providing ANY government recources) for 4 days during an national emergency. The guy is clueless or he is getting manipulated by his oil buddies. He has the travestity to lie about the possibility of the dikes breaking and then pretend that he is doing something by rolling up his sleeves. This idiot has never had to work a day in his life, we folks suffer fools so readily from Reagan on down. I am angry for all those poor people that have suffered and died from the ineptitude of these people – what a debacle just like Iraq. Everything they touch they screw up. I would be embarressed to be a Republican and the Democrats are gutless, when is somone going to stand up for truth – arent we all sick of these lies and putting these people in power that are inept, eg Brown, Chertoff, Bolton etc etc etc and a commander in chief that is a phoney


  426. Concerned Canadian says:

    RE: to number 400

    He did refuse our help. Many of us could’ve been to New Orleans in 24 hours, not 6 days.
    Bush also refused to allow Cuban doctors to help, as well…

    why?


  427. Resonant Information says:

    Help, or get out of the way

    It’s funny… only a few hours ago I posted elsewhere, agreeing that the most energetic finger pointers could probably do better things with their time, because the focus right now should really be on getting people to safety, and only afterwards work…


  428. Piotr says:

    Great Leader can’t even play guitar right. Make that chord and it sounds like ass. Kind of like his thought process. One giant farting noise…


  429. Inpeach Bush says:

    If u want to help the incompetent go to http://impeachbush.org/ and vote for it!!!


  430. Concerned Canadian says:

    RE: # 426 ; # 427

    We want to help. I’m becoming restless because I don’t know where to start.

    As well, your leader needs to worry about more important matters, and should except help of those who are willing. The world is getting angry. Very angry. But it’s true. I think as a nation you should do everything in your power to 1) help these people, and 2)get this man the hell out of Washington. He’s proved to you that he cannot handle such an event as this. For the better of your nation, I feel that he should be impeached. I do not stand alone on this.
    And I’m not a “Bush Basher”. I’m not an “extreme liberal”. As human, we should watch out for our kind – not our race, not our class – our kind.


  431. Thoin says:

    If “George Bush is a human being” and if Intelligent Design really IS the explanation for human evolution…than I think this particular model needs to be recalled by it’s Maker. It’s seriously defective.


  432. GrammaJ says:

    WAKE UP PEOPLE! THE TIME IS DRAWING VERY CLOSE TO THE END OF LIFE AS WE ALL KNOW IT! THE ANTI CHRIST HAS ARRIVED IN THE FORM OF A LYING, EVIL, UNCARING, MONEY HUNGRY, THINKS HE KNOWS IT ALL LITTLE WEASEL WHO CANT THINK FOR HIMSELF, HE HAS TO HAVE A TRANSMITTOR IN HIS EAR TO RECEIVE MESSAGES FROM HIS MASTER TO SPEW FILTH OUT OF HIS CROOKED MOUTH. HE SUFFERS FROM SELF INDULGENTS! HE IS SO SMALL MINDED! THE WORST PRESIDENT THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER HAD. HE MAKES ME SICK ALONG WITH MILLIONS OF OTHER FOLKS IN AND OUT OF THE COUNTRY. WE ARE NOT SAFE IN AMERICA! WHEN THE NATIONAL GUARD IS IN IRAG FIGHTING A WAR FOR THE BUSH (CHIT) FAMILY. THATS EXACTLY WHAT ITS FOR ! OIL MONEY! PICK UP YOUR ARMS PEOPLE CUZ WERE GOING TO NEED TO FEND FOR OURSELFS WHEN THE TIME COMES. AINT NO GOVERNMENT FOLKS GONNA HELP US! ITS DO OR DIE! THANKS TO THE LITTLE CROOKED MOUTHED BUSH! LOOK AT THOSE FOLKS WHO LOST THERE LIFES IN KATRINA HURRICANE. THEY WANTED TO FIX THE LEVEES DOWN THERE BUT BUSH SENT THE MONEY TO IRAG! BOY HE’S GOT LOTS TO ANSWER TO GOD FOR WHEN ITS HIS TURN TO GO. THOUSANDS OF DEATHS ON HIS HANDS………………………………..ALL YOU BUSHCHIT SUPPORTERS ARE THE MOST IGNORANT PEOPLE EVER………………………..GIVE ME MICHAEL MOORE ANYDAY TO RUN THIS COUNTRY


  433. KJ Lovell says:

    LITTLE GEORGIE TOOK AN AXE AND GAVE THE WORLD FORTY WHACKS… WHEN HE SAW WHAT HE HAD DONE… HE GAVE NEW ORLEANS FORTY-ONE….(OR IS THAT 43??)


  434. Joseph Hill says:

    >>>>>
    Wow… What a cocksucker.
    This is the result of having our National Guard in Iraq instead of… you know… guarding the nation.
    Comment by AbuJ — September 2, 2005 @ 12:43 pm

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    What an unfortunate choice of words! I wonder if you could think of another term than ‘cocksucker’ to describe our common enemy Mr. Bush…without insulting women and gay folks…..


  435. Joseph Hill says:

    To those upset by Dubya’s apparent callousness, please consider that he’s in pretty good company. Look at these ‘birds of a feather’ he ‘flocks’ with:

    Dubya’s ‘Conscience’ –

    “Frankly, I’m also fed up — not fed up. I retract that. I’m weary, ladies and gentlemen, of even having to express sympathy. ‘Oh, she lost her son!’ Yes, yes, yes, but (sigh) we all lose things.” — Rush Limbaugh (referring to Cindy Sheehan)

    ——————————————————-

    The ‘apple’ didn’t fall far from THIS tree –

    “Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it’s gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Oh, I mean, it’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?” — Barbara Bush, (on Good Morning America in March 2003:)


  436. P. Campbell says:

    Since you don’t know how to use Google, here is just one link for Blanco’s statement:http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisiana/index.ssf?/base/news-18/1125239940201382.xml&storylist=louisiana

    Not to let facts get in the way, but disaster preparedness is the responsibility of State and Local authorities. The Governor is SUPPOSED to be directing relief for the state. For the local areas, the Mayor is SUPPOSED to direct. FEMA assists the State and Local authorities. If the State and Local authorities can’t or don’t respond, THEN FEMA takes over.

    The state had a plan, which included using those now-swamped buses. They didn’t implement their own plan. And since I’m sure you’ll be needing the link for that also, here it is:http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26


  437. Reverend X says:

    This uis a response to #414
    Yes, you are correct. I for one would like to apologize to the world for what you are seeing. You see, they realized the Americans love the fight so much we miss the reason most of the time. Form one party, split it for effect. Claim differences and point fingers for failure and viola, An all weather self promoting behemoth for corruption and simultaneous righteous indignation. Self stabiliozing in theory but reality adds it’s own variables. I think they overdid it a bit… you might wanna back up a bit. This is going to get messy.

    -X


  438. Joseph Hill says:

    >>>>
    …Not to let facts get in the way, but disaster preparedness is the responsibility of State and Local authorities….
    >>>>>>>>>

    While you’re doing all your research, you might want to check out the website for the Department of Homeland Security. You’ll find that their mission is to assume PRIMARY responsibility for disasters of this magnitude.


  439. P. Campbell says:

    “…States, Territories, Tribal Nations, and local governments bear the primary responsibility for responding to and recovering from disasters. FEMA—at the direction of the President—takes action when State, Territorial, Tribal and local resources are overwhelmed and the Governor requests assistance.”


  440. muddmike says:

    Drumz #414

    >And also, realize that if you are able to incense a >bush supporter you are doing democracy a great and >desperately needed favor!

    Unfortunately, all that is going to do is make tem MORE sure that they are right. Citing facts does not work. I have a colleague who is supposedly “educated” and “rational”. (A PhD. in chemistry.) Yet he gets all of his “news” from Rush and Fox. If you show him documented facts which do not fit his world view, he simply says that they are irrelevant. There are people of all political stipes who have this type of attitude, but it is most common on the fringes, both left and right.

    The only thing that we can hope to do is work with the people in the middle, and try to educate them. Changing your world view takes a while. I know this, since I was brought up in an area and time when the USA was “perfect”. In the past 30 years, I have learned otherwise. It still has the potential of being a great nation, but each day, that potential is slipping away and it will take longer to recover.

    By the way, to all who think that someone with a PhD. is necessarily brilliant, that is absolutely untrue. Some PhDs have a large knowledge in a very small area of a small field, but little or no common sense. I have known many PhDs, and would probably only trust my life to about 1/4 of them. I have known supposedly “intelligent” PhDs who could not figure out how to work a VCR. Reading and understanding the labels on six buttons was too difficult for them.

    Work to educate and expose lies. LIES KILL DEMOCRACY!


  441. Arby says:

    One more interesting resource online.
    http://truthout.org/ TRUTH OUT (dot) ORG
    Free email subscription available.

    So, now the Supreme Court is the focus of attention for the administration? We have already forgtten about Carl Rove a couple of weeks ago and the outing of a CIA operative, yes? Perhaps NOLA will be on the back burner while Washington decided our high court composition of conservatives – ‘way to the right, way to go!!

    OK, Congresspeople and esteemed Washington leaders. Summer vacation is over, time to ring the school bell!
    When do the Democrats get on TV to say something we can hear that gives us a sense of their leadership?

    So many questions – so many difficult answers and so little time.


  442. NO EXCUSE FOR INCOMPETENCE AND GREED says:

    WE’D BE BETTER OFF CONGREGATING OUR OWN RELIEF EFFORTS AND OUSTING THE SON OF A BITCH!


  443. mighty aphrodite says:

    #414 – My dear Aussie – Thank God you don’t live here!!!. We have enough whiners, moaners and hand wringers so stay where you are and cry in your Foster’s. To address a couple of your moronic points – the pitiful effects of the Tsunami were over a completely different range of topography. Missing from the Tsunami were the hurricane force winds (for hours on end) which contributed a BIT to the destruction and devastation. I dare say your sweeping and emotional pronouncement of the US being a “total failure … & bereft of humanity & compassion” is one of the most thoroughly ignorant statements I have ever read – If it makes you feel any better, we have several idiots here to make you feel right at home. Unlike so many “nanny” states, we have had a TREMENDOUS outpouring of charity and volunteerism!!!! We have suffered a terrible tragedy – we have been a rampunctious, loud and FIERCELY INDEPENDENT people since the founding of our country. We’ve done some things right – other times we were wrong! But through thick and thin we generally manage to stick together (except for the 15 or 16 people who spend their workday whining here). We can fuss and fight among ourselves but YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH GENEROSITY SHOWN to our own and others! Thank God Prime Minister Howard doesn’t have your jelly spine!


  444. k.rove@att.net says:

    You are right about PhD’s. I’ve worked in and with the US Air Force for 37 years, and Thursday I heard an Air Force PhD say “Leave them all in New Orleans to drown, it will save ’social problems’ later”.

    He was backed up by an Air Force Lt. Col who claimed “Its all their own fault. They didn’t leave when told.”


  445. Nick Caine says:

    There is a lot of blame to go around here, people. But in a national emergency, the Prez is ultimately responsible. After all, he appointed FEMA dir. and put that under Chertoff’s Homeland Sec.

    Comment by Marie

    You’re absolutely correct Marie, in your comments. The buck stops at the president’s door. Of course there are other people in the frame, who must take some of the responsibility, in this catastrophe. But the American public must realise who is in charge of this whole mess. And who is supposed to be running the country. And expect Bush to do the job that he was elected for. And not stay on his holiday, and go on photo-ops. When so many innocent people were dying, from a ‘Hell-On-Earth’ situation.

    George W. Bush must of known how bad things were getting. Didn’t anybody tell him, and advise him on the situation? Or did he just not care enough, to give up a round of golf?

    But when the shit hits the fan, he’s nowhere to be seen. The same can be said of his cabinet members, ‘come out, come out, wherever you are’. Last week he was too busy at photo-ops, and probably raising money for the GOP, (how sickening, was that to have to watch?) Bush’s PR over this whole sorry episode, has been one big balls-up, from start to finish. His public relations team must be rank amateurs, at their jobs. Or Bush and his team are so arrogant in their beliefs, that they can do no wrong, in the eye of their core supporters. That it doesn’t matter how bad a job they’re doing, in running America. In the eyes of the American right-wingers and the white Christian Republican electorate of America. They can do no wrong?

    If Bush keeps mentioning God in his speeches. Then his sycophantic supporters will turn out in their droves. To wave their little American flags, sing ‘God bless America’, and let everybody know, that they’re the true American patriots. And the left are nothing but liberal, left-leaning pinko commies, which can never be trusted, to run America.

    Bush only has a handful of speeches, which he trots out, time and time again. You would of thought that Bush’s speechwriters, could of come up with some new thoughts by now. But no they keep recycling the same rubbish, hoping that nobody will ever notice. “Were fighting over there, so we don’t have to fight them over here. “9/11 blah, blah, blah 9/11. “God bless America, God bless those poor folks, I’m praying for those folks, who have lost loved ones, for this noble cause.”

    God, prayer, Christian idealism and a self-proclaiming religious government. And implementing laws based on your own personally held religious beliefs and those of your electoral base.

    So if you’re not with me, then you are against me. If you’re against me, you can all go and piss-off, I don’t want to know about you. And I don’t particular care about you, have a nice day.

    But the ultimate failures in this whole sorry mess, is George W. Bush, the Republican party and his cabinet members. And also the way he puts his cronies into key positions, when maybe they haven’t got the expertise to carry them out in the manner that is expected of them.

    Bush is quick to take the glory and the plaudits, at every opportunity. Because of the mess that the Gulf Coast is now in. Bush should understand, and accept the criticisms, that at being levelled at him. He deserves a great big kick up the arse for the inadequate way he has handled the aftermath of hurricane Katrina.

    And the American people have the opportunity to ask Bush to bend over, and give him a good kicking. He can’t keep fooling some of the people, all of the time.

    P.S. Marie, your link to website isn’t working, and shows an incomplete website address.


  446. Andrew Cargill says:

    As I watch the news I see the Director of Homeland “Security” and other government officials complain about the situation in New Orleans. They say the military couldn’t enter the city. They claimed that they had no way of giving supplies. Then I wonder. What the hell are these guys smoking! Our military has helicopters, amphibious vehicals and plenty of National Guard troops. Why weren’t they sent as soon as possible to aid!? People have died because of this unneccesary week long delay and of this administration’s idiocy, cowardice, and ineptitude. Which is the causing even more suffering in the region which has suffered the worst diasaster in the history of the United States of America. Make America safer. Impeach Bush!


  447. Paul Malboeuf says:

    ” Common Sense ” : Critical in daily LIFE has been missing in this picture & in our land since President Kennedy’s Assasination. If we followed God’s plans – we would not have a problem whatsoever. 40% of all people lack this fundemental thinking in getting things accomplished- and I firmly believe Mr. Bush & his cabinet have none! His father probably had to tell him to visit New Orleans & Biloxi, Miss. to see the refugees & devistation that has taken place; not just flying over in a jet. Jesus said the end is nearing for all the world to see that our great country has been devoured by selfishness, greed, lust, anger, road rage, car-jackings, dishonesty, etc…. leaving the strong Christians unafraid but- loyal to Christ. People cheat, lie, take drugs, look at pornography, gamble, etc… just too many sins to list & will continue in their miserable ways. During the four days – it was murder, rape of women – who had not eaten for three days- etc.. stealing & robbing innocent people, etc… & it continues even after GOD has left His Calling Card ! Now – we know why HE came like a raging storm & still –THEY DO NOT CHANGE THEIR WAY OF LIFE. Believe me — Bush & Cheney are making millions on every disaster that hits this country -and will run us into the ground. By the way — ” Where is Mr. Cheney in all of this? ” Mr. Bush should have released the reserves at $3.00 @ a gallon ; $3.25 for medium & $3.50 for high octane- BUT he chooses to do what he always does — NOTHING.It is very sad for America to have an idiot running our used-to-be GREAT LAND they called America with his other imbeciles. Please- pray because worse disasters are on the way & Bush is not ready at all- for what is coming down the road! BE PREPARED!


  448. Carthage's Son says:

    Actually, Mr. Aphrodite, I must correct you. Our Prime Minister, the Hon. John Howard is as much an invertebrate as any who supported and participated in your unlawful war. I think our Prime Minister would have done this country, and also your country a great service if instead of blindly following Mr. Bush’s crazy foray into Iraq, he follow the will of the electorate and insist that all avenues of diplomacy be explored before an invasion (that we, of course, could not in good faith partake in). Even if Iraq WAS a threat to the USA it still wasn’t OUR war. Mr. Bush waved a free-trade deal in Mr. Howard’s face and all at once, as though without a functioning spinal cord, our Prime Minister’s knees buckled. I think the French were America’s best friends by respectfully declining to enter an illegal war. Friends aren’t sychophants.


  449. Jim says:

    Where’s John Kerry when you need him. I thought 53 million people couldnt be wrong.


  450. mick says:

    this is to mighty aphrodite. I really dont know where you get your ideals from and to speculate about. I however wish to point out that topograpy is region and if i am not mistaken aussie was refering to that region not yours. Those are poor countries, and here we have the great and powerful America who cant send in ppl after the storm passed a day later,it took days and days.
    Then to you about talking about compassion and caring, well where is that at, because all I picked up from you was that you didnt agree and you restorted to anger as you couldnt defend your vulnerablity in being told the truth of the matter.We arent the greatest country in the world, yeah perhaps we are in war and power mad politicians, oh of course big business. Then so where does the common person fit in to it? Yes they was poor and black, but they are human and as american as you and I. We failed them, we failed our own ppl as we have failed the world. Get your facts together and above all wake up from your sleep and look at the state of the world not your own selfish beliefs then make a rational judgement.


  451. Helen Keller says:

    The only moral virtue of war is that it compels the capitalist system to look itself in the face and admit it is a fraud. It compels the present society to admit that it has no morals it will not sacrifice for gain.

    —Helen Keller, 1915


  452. Wizard says:

    Bush, HUMAN?? Remember the movie Arrival? He is getting ready of us humans so his alien friends can take over the planet Earth.


  453. Nancy L. says:

    #417 Arby,
    I heard General Honore, on TV, at a interview with Donald Rumsfeld and Myers. When he came up to the mike, I thought ‘here’s another political mouthpiece’.
    When he started talking, I started listening. This man is no political hack. This man knew what he’s talking about, and knews what needs to be done. He’s about the first person to come out and say what he plans on doing. His focus was not on a photo-op, but on a job to be done.
    I was impressed, he’s one of the few people left that can lead. He’s not afraid of responsibility, and doesn’t play games. He’s made this administration look like kids playing grown-ups.


  454. Nancy L. says:

    oh yes, I also wanted to add how evident it is that CNN is now jumping ship, as in ‘rats’. Until Katrina, CNN was up this administration’s place ‘where the sun don’t shine’, now suddenly they see the handwriting on the wall. Public opinion was already falling for bush, now public opinion isn’t going to fall, it’s going to plummet. Apparently, the Suits, at CNN, are afraid this prez. may take a nose-dive, or worse and take them with him. Therefore, it’s an about-face. Suddenly,they’re asking all those questions, that most of us, have been asking since bushie came into office and have begged the press to ask. People are outraged, and they are looking at this admin. It’s Republicans, Democrats, Independent, Green, etc., some are finally seeing the truth for the first time. Pictures have been stronger than words this time, so the rhetoric coming from the White House and their kiss a** buddies aren’t as effective. It’s not working this time. Not when people realized that the men and equipment needed for this area are oversea in a war, which many don’t believe in anymore. These are the reserve,& guard men(women)& equipment from these very states that were hit. These are the people who are trained for this type of disaster, they would of been there sooner than 5 days.
    And I do say, there is enough blame for others, as well. If bush cut the funding for the levees, etc., it makes it more imperative authorities within the state, should of been drafting an evacuation plan for NOLA. Granted, the scope of this was more extensive than anyone planned, but something would of been better than nothing.


  455. David says:

    I lean toward the conservative, Republican view on most issues, but I have to agree with you folks… Bush is doing almost as bad a job as Clinton. We need someone like Alan Keyes.


  456. I Hate Liberals says:

    You call the President’s trip a photo op? He is the President. It is protocol that he goes there.

    Explain the me then what Hillary Clinton was doing down there. The my liberal morons is the definition of a photo op. The Hilldebeast has not business down there. She is from New York.

    Oh yea, she called for a commission. She could have done that from NY. New Orleans is an example of what happens when you libs are in charge. Blame others, take now responsibility for you own inactions and then cry and bitch because the government didn’t take care of you. That’s OK, just like always, a Republican run state, in this case Texas, is there to bail you out.


  457. Nick Caine says:

    I Hate Liberals.

    How much do you get paid per post? Whoever pays you, should ask for there money back.

    As for Hillary Clinton remark. Doesn’t Hillary Clinton originally come from down that part of America?


  458. Chris says:

    Perhaps when running a 24 hour operation, you need a crew of people not working so that there are people to take over when the exhausted crews return from thier missions? Just a thought.


  459. Chris says:

    The vultures of the venomous left are attacking on two fronts, first that the president didn’t do what the incompetent mayor of New Orleans and the pouty governor of Louisiana should have done, and didn’t, in the early hours after Katrina loosed the deluge on the city that care and good judgment forgot. Ray Nagin, the mayor, ordered a “mandatory” evacuation a day late, but kept the city’s 2,000 school buses parked and locked in neat rows when there was still time to take the refugees to higher ground. The bright-yellow buses sit ruined now in four feet of dirty water. Then the governor, Kathleen Blanco, resisted early pleas to declare martial law, and her dithering opened the way for looters, rapists and killers to make New Orleans an unholy hell. Gov. Haley Barbour did not hesitate in neighboring Mississippi, and looters, rapists and killers have not turned the streets of Gulfport and Biloxi into killing fields.


  460. Chris says:

    After days of blaming the federal officials for not responding quickly enough to the Hurricane Katrina crisis, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin praised President Bush on Monday – and charged that Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco had delayed federal rescue efforts by 24-hours.

    “I’m so happy that the president came down here,” Nagin said of Bush’s Friday visit to Louisiana in an interview with CNN. “He came down and saw it, and he put a general on the field. His name is General Honore. And when he hit the field, we started to see action.”

    But Nagin had harsh words for his state’s leaders, telling CNN: “What the state was doing, I don’t frigging know. But I tell you, I am pissed. It wasn’t adequate.”
    The New Orleans Democrat said he urged Bush to meet privately with Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco during the visit. The meeting took place aboard Air Force One, he said.

    After reviewing the crisis with Gov. Blanco, Bush summoned Nagin for a private chat – where, according to Nagin, Bush explained: “Mr. Mayor, I offered two options to the governor. I said . . . I was ready to move today. The governor said she needed 24 hours to make a decision.”

    Reacting to the governor’s footdragging, Nagin lamented: “It would have been great if we could of left Air Force One, walked outside, and told the world that we had this all worked out.”

    “It didn’t happen, and more people died.”


  461. Nick Caine says:

    After reviewing the crisis with Gov. Blanco, Bush summoned Nagin for a private chat – where, according to Nagin, Bush explained: “Mr. Mayor, I offered two options to the governor. I said . . . I was ready to move today. The governor said she needed 24 hours to make a decision.”

    Comment by Chris

    Not such a ‘private’ chat then, between Bush and Nagin.

    And so the Bush defence begins. It’s the Democrat’s entire fault, for the death of so many innocent people. I’m only the President of the United States of America. What could I do? The people that usually run the country were away on their holidays. And I was on my ranch, doing ranchie things.


  462. KJ Lovell says:

    I am so curious as to exactly what Brown’s favor to dumbya was. I suspect it has something to do with J.C. Watts & Frank Keeting and Henry Bellmon. Time will tell. It could have something to do with the death of David Walter’s son, as that was never fully explained.

    What could he do? He could have invaded LA anyway. The same way he invaded Iraq. You actually think for one moment that this brass balled smirking chimp and his handlers would defer to a Democrat?

    IT WAS ALL PLANNED! THEY WANTED THE POOR TO PERISH! IT WAS FOR MONEY AND GREED AND RACISM!


  463. gberke says:

    In Bush, you see the effect of confusing church and state…
    God is praised for all things and blamed for none. Certainly Jesus is praised for all things and blamed for none.
    Notice that the Bush supporters treat him that way… as a god, or the god.
    He is a man, he is president, and he can be blamed. In fact, he does set the course for the nation: the United States behaves, for all to see, quite like George Bush.
    Time was when we looked like Lincoln, TR, Washington, FDR, Kennedy, an oh yeah, Clinton for better and for worse. (Clinton at least really could work hard, and did. Bush simply cannot. He was and is and will be a really nice goof ball)
    Now we look like Bush and it couldn’t be worse. On second thought, it could be. Let us NOT continue in this direction, let us turn around, and quickly.


  464. Mark says:

    If you don’t want to find the root cause of the problem, blame Bush. Even though Mayor Nagin did a cut & run, and Governor Blanco took a wait and see additude, it Bush’s fault.

    Why would anyone who apparently contols the actions of OPEC, Oil Companies, and now apparently the weather, want to be President? Seems like he has more power without the destractions of being Prsident. Plus, being President doesn’t pay as well.

    Do I sound like an idiot liberal????


  465. mighty aphrodite says:

    #456 “We arent the greatest country in the world, yeah perhaps we are in war and power mad politicians, oh of course big business.(sic)” – Mick –
    Let me guess, Mick do you think – All countries are EQUALLY great!!!??????


  466. Dave says:

    Well, as long as we got the tax paying white folks out of NO we can park the choppers and let the looting welfare recipients fend for themselves. That ape rapper was correct in assuming that Bush does not care about blacks. Furthermore, nobody cares about blacks; not even blacks themselves!


  467. esoterically.net » Photo-ops says:

    [...] Will he show true compassion, comprehension and leadership today by wading — literally and figuratively — among those who are still suffering? Or will it be a series of hermetically sealed photo ops? [...]


  468. Thomas says:

    Simple people with simple minds. You libs think this is a race issue when the WHOLE world sees what color the hands are pulling folks out of the water. Over 700 mil. bucks donated BY mostly whites and I have not heard of 1 dollar being marked only to be used for a white family. Keep in mind you dems have run that state and N.O. for over 60 years and look what it became. Silly liberals tricks are for kids.


  469. Green Day Rules says:

    Ok we all get the point. Bush = evil

    I cudnt agreee anymore.

    WAR IS WRONG

    WAR

    IS

    W
    R
    O
    N
    G


  470. Rich says:

    Bush literally begged that useless moron of a mayor to use the busses HE ALREADY HAD to get people out of town. The poor whiners were complaining that nthey had no way to get out of town, yet 20,000 cars were flooded – Doh! The cops turned into looters, The entire state is corrupt and it’s all Bush’s fault. Sound like the same kind of people that think the government should wipe their butts for them. You already turned California into Commiefornia and it hasn’t helped us a bit. Didn’t see Jessee Jackson toting any sand bags. Did You!


  471. Think Progress » After urging Americans says:

    [...] to avoid “unnecessary travel,” Bush and his gas-guzzling entourage seek photo-ops today on their eight trip to the Gulf Coast since Katrina struck.  9:51 am | Comment (0) [...]


  472. Rwil says:

    cry cry cry BUSH IS MEAN , BUSH LIES , BUSH IS DUMB, BUT REALLY, BUSH IS A BETTER MAN AND CARES MORE ABOUT REAL PEOPLE THEN ALL YOU CRYING LEFTIES EVER, EVER, EVER.


  473. harold hickman says:

    Not one of the uninformed Republicans has mentioned the National debt which mostly accured under the last three Republican presidents. When Reagon took office in 1980 the Nationa Debt was less than 1 trillion dollars. Clinton had a deficit during his first term but in the second term he had a surpulas I understand was 4 1/2 trillion which he turned over to Wimp Chemp with a suggestion that it be applied to the National debt. The Wimp formed a plan, $600 dollars to married working couples that paid taxes and $300. to single tax payers. Five executives of one large corporation each received $197,000,000. My neighbor, a 59 year old widow received three hundred dollars, however; when she filed her income tax for 2001 the acccountant told her that she was not eligable for the refund becuese she had laid only $800 in taxes while working as a Waitress and she had to repay the $300. plus interest. The idiots that still support Bush are doing so because of ignorance or
    their comittment to ancestorial bonds. The Iraq war will when and only when contractors like Hallaburton and other Republican contractors finish milking the American tax payers to pay for the contract they received without competion of other honest bidders. If Chimp was a Christain and red his bible he would know that any country that is devided by more than two factions casn not b ecome a democracy no matter haw many inocent women and children are killed. Fox only mentions the more than 2000 killed but you will never hear Fox mention the 65,000 that have returned with loss of limbs and mental disorders. The SOB should be tried as a war criminal and stood before a firing squad. If he not impeached before, I predice the democratic legislature that will be elected in November 2006 will do the duty and impeach the Bastard.

    .


  474. Jennings Rountree says:

    Incompetence at the White House has not ended. I reported violations of federal law by local officials to George Bush, and what was done? NOTHING! You would think I lived in New Orleans!


  475. that frog girl » Blog Archive » Hurricane Katrina says:

    [...] I’ve heard about the photo ops taken with Coast Guard patrols that could have been out patrolling. I know about the funding cuts for levee upgrades, and about Condi Rice going shopping for shoes. I’ve read the skinny on the FEMA man fired from his last job for administrative incompetence, and I’ve heard all about how the leadership in the Senate is rip rarin’ to go at tearing down the estate tax next week as its top priority. [...]


  476. Me says:

    Most of you are just a bunch of idiots…

    Go play on the interstate. I bet you cant catch a tire in your teeth…


  477. Me says:

    Jennings Rountard….

    You walked up to the president and said “Excuse me, but people are breaking the law.”

    I seriously doubt it, Rountard…


  478. IntoxiNation » Blog Archive » Bush’s Photo Op is Killing People. says:

    [...] Think Progress picked up on an important point that I thought of while watching the President address reporters from Louisiana. If we need helicopters then wouldn’t the two sitting behind his photo op be good ones to use? [...]


  479. MAtue says:

    Hey, I’m new here, but this is great stuff! I’m definitely going to bookmark this site! I look forward to contributing.


  480. Ken Dryden - Yoga for health says:

    After a period of time, the terrible actions committed against the native population enraged the leaders of the natives. Columbus and his fellow Spaniards were all to be executed. Columbus was a sly dog, though. He knew the stars. He knew that a lunar eclipse was going to take place in three days and communicated that information to the chief.


  481. Scott Brison - creative writing lesson says:

    I am Partisan – but we all have to wake up and smell the coffee. This so called commander in chief sat for the best part of 10 minutes while our country was attacked during 9/11 and now he orders an evacuation but does nothing about it for 4 days during an national emergency.



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