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The “Poor and Black Have Been Left Behind” Meme

Jonah Goldberg on the liberal media:

The “poor and black have been left behind” meme is now in full swing on CNN and MSNBC.

Meanwhile

At one point Friday, the evacuation was interrupted briefly when school buses pulled up so some 700 guests and employees from the Hyatt Hotel could move to the head of the evacuation line — much to the amazement of those who had been crammed in the Superdome since last Sunday.

“How does this work? They (are) clean, they are dry, they get out ahead of us?” exclaimed Howard Blue, 22, who tried to get in their line. The National Guard blocked him as other guardsmen helped the well-dressed guests with their luggage.

Meanwhile, from one victim stuck in the Convention Center…

The people are so desperate that they’re doing anything they can think of to impress the authorities enough to bring some buses. These things include standing in single file lines with the eldery in front, women and children next; sweeping up the area and cleaning the windows and anything else that would show the people [they] are not barbarians.



84 Responses to “The “Poor and Black Have Been Left Behind” Meme”

  1. Coo12b says:

    Poor Jonah seems to find himself on the wrong side of just about everything. That guy has permanent foot in mouth disease…


  2. Michael Darravo says:

    You libs at least have to admit that Kanye West’s comment was totally ridiculous.


  3. Corrryn says:

    At night jonah brushes his teeth, flosses, and gets the gunk out between his toes for tomorrow


  4. BUSH LUVER says:

    MY PRESIDENT WENT DOWN THERE AND HUGGED THEM BLACK WOMEN. HE’S HUGGED CONDI. HE’S HUGGED THEM BLACK FOLKS BEFORE. HE’S A BRAVE LEADER!



  5. Brian says:

    They were left behind when Bush decided to play his GUITAR and EAT CAKE with McCain while New Orleans was filling up with water.

    This is Bush’s failed FEMA

    This is Bush’s failed HOMELAND SECURITY

    This is the United States unprepared for crisis.


  6. KillCon 2005 says:

    You libs at least have to admit that Kanye West’s comment was totally ridiculous.

    It’s totally ridiculous to claim that race and racism isn’t a factor. It’s not just class and classism.


  7. Adam Piontek says:

    No, we don’t, Michael, not so long as Bush’s actions over the past week have demonstrated their truth. I would have said, “George Bush doesn’t care about the poor,” but given the area of the US that Katrina hit, it’s pretty much the same thing down there.


  8. Alvord says:

    Gilliard via Kos has a great rant on Goldberg and his ilk.

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/3/0179/56656


  9. Susan says:

    Bushie is a complete failure. The pug party will suffer for his incompetence and racist attitude. The pug party will be as obsolete as New Orleans is. For that I am grateful.


  10. DrLaniac says:

    Kayne West’s comment was only off by being too narrowly focused.

    Bush doesn’t care about black people. He doesn’t care about poor people. He doesn’t care about ordinary American’s. He cares only for the aristocracy.


  11. Andrew Felluss says:

    r h e t o r i c a l
    C’mon, Kanye may not have a lot of tact, but don’t you think Feds would have moved faster if Natalee Holloway was crapping in a shoebox?

    Whose fault is it that those unfortunates, who did not have the resources to get out of town, are mostly black people?

    What is the worst that would happen if every store in New Orleans was broken into?


  12. Susan says:

    I live in Chicago and many people who live downtown do not own cars. It is very congested and costly to own a car. These are not poor people. They use public transportation like most big city dwellers.

    If Chicago had to evacuate in a hurry, well off people would not make it as the public transportation system can only handle so many people. Try getting a cab when the airshow ends.

    The difference between the folks in NO and Chicago is, the Chicago (except southsiders) people wouldn’t last 2 days, they have no endurance and have no coping skills. The people of NO have showed courage that my suburban yuppies can only dream of having.


  13. cmw says:

    When they count that dead in the convention center and superdome, who will take responsibility – these people died due to neglect – negligence, malfeasance, indifference – their deaths will be on the hands of Bush, Chertoff, Brown, Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney – take them all off in handcuffs


  14. cmw says:

    Why did it take 5 days for military chinooks etc to arrive and evacuate people? Why did it take 5 days for military trucks to bring in food and water?

    Inexcusable


  15. Susan says:

    Yep, the yuppies wouldn’t last thru the night in this situation. My husband and I imagine this in our neighborhood and we agree that he, myself and my dog would be the only survivors. Having no nintendo or cable would kill the yuppies in about 6 hours. Food and water wouldn’t even be an issue.


  16. cmw says:

    White suburbanites would be rescued immediately – it wouldn’t take five days – they wouldn’t be forced to crap on the street


  17. John the Elder says:

    I say it again regarding the Bushcovites and their response to this National tragedy…”What do you expect from a pig, but a grunt.” The Bushcovites and their ilk having been feeding at the public trough for all their lives…Corporate tax cuts! Is it any wonder they would arrange to get the well-to-do in that hotel out first. ‘To hell with the poor!’ their black and probably vote Democratic…The New England born aristocrat in the White House is a typical Southern Racist regardless of the place of his being hatched by the woman who publically has shown no heart for those who are not as blessed as she…let’s not forget ‘Why should I mess up my beautiful mind…’ said by the hatcher on National TV…remember ‘Apples don’t fall far from the trees they grow in.


  18. cmw says:

    Bush learned well from his nazi sympathizer grandfather Prescott. They probably have a family manual on hitlerian urban renewal techniques – during flooding and natural disasters, do nothing for as long as possible – kill as many as you can that way – then look like a hero hauling out the near-dying – pack them into more holding camps – and forget about them


  19. Susan says:

    cmw, the suburbanites in my area wouldn’t leave their precious belongings. They would die protecting their white picket fences.


  20. Susan says:

    They’d be on their cell phones with the cable and utility companies demanding that they get their services turned back on.


  21. Susan says:

    My husband and I would be laughing at them as we happily left our home and belongings.


  22. SpudgeBoy says:

    KillCon 2005
    Adam Piontek
    DrLaniac
    Andrew Felluss

    Please don’t respond to the trolls. ALl they do is derail ligetimate debate and conversation.

    Michael Darravo, BUSH LUVER, The Northeast Dilema, ALexxa, Lyle, Blue State Red, Red and the rest of them are worthless pieces of crap. Arguing with them is pointless. They will never understand how wrong they are. I find it amazing that they can actually find a contrary position to everything that is said here.


  23. cmw says:

    the trolls are probably paid agents of the nazi RNC feeding off the taxpayers dollars



  24. Susan says:

    I do my best SpudgeBoy, but sometimes I cant resist. I’ll try harder. I just hope that someday they are the victims. Many of the 9-11 victims were white and Bushie did nothing to respond to that disaster either. Its every man for himself and I guarantee you the chickenhawks will not do as well as the courageous folks in NO.


  25. Susan says:

    cmw, good article. What Bushie and chickenhawks alike seem to forget that without the african/american population they would have less people to fight the war in Iraq.

    We know what is next for these displaced Americans. Recruiters are probably going to give them food and water when they sign on the dotted line and not before. There’s always a inhuman agenda.


  26. SpudgeBoy says:

    It’s all good Susan.

    The level of incompetence being shown by the Bush administration is deplorable. Everytime I turn on the TV, I want to scream. I cannot believe how screwed up they have got this situation. If this isn’t enough to get him impeached, I will flip out. I can’t stand these people.

    You know, I didn’t really like Bush senior, but I didn’t hate him the way I hate Bush. His dad’s “Thousand points of light” and “Read my lips, no new taxes” pissed me off, but nothing compared to seeing George juniors ugly smirking pie hole.


  27. cmw says:

    Great quote from Alexander Cockburn article Nature is Politics
    “Malthus, a Christian, proposed locating the surplus poor next to unhealthy marshes, in the hope they would get sick and die. How much of a difference is there between that and the “emergency preparedness” and evacuation procedures before, during and after Katrina? How did Washington perceive New Orleans and most of the Gulf coast? Basically as a vast huddle of the mostly poor and the mostly black. So, year after year, they denied funds to shore up levees that all experts agree are bound to give way in more than a Force Three storm. They hollowed out every state economy so that in the end Mississippi’s tax base was its cut of the gambling take, from floating casinos because the Christians said the Devil’s Work couldn’t take place on dry land.”

    http://www.counterpunch.org/


  28. Susan says:

    Don’t let this deflect your attention away from the impeachment movement that begins this month.

    I truly hope that Cindy Sheehan can get some of the victims to go to DC with her.

    Email her if you can @meetwithcindy.org. Ask her to pick up some displaced Americans while on her bus trip.

    votetoimpeach.org


  29. SpudgeBoy says:

    #25

    I hope that is not true, but I have been thinking that it would turn to that. I hope God is watching. I want these guys out of office, but that is not enough for what they have done.

    #27

    That is an excellent point. This IS cutting into their recruits.

    I don’t know why blacks aren’t rioting in the streets right now. They rioted when 5 white guys beat up a black guy and them were let off without jail. I would have to say that this is about tem white people beating up thousands of blacks right now and they will probably go free.


  30. Jim says:

    From Jesus (GW claims to be a follower) :

    “Whatever you do to the least of me, you do to me”

    Is it safe to say GW was letting Jesus die while taking photo ops!


  31. Susan says:

    Spudge, I can see it now. Recruiters telling the black people who have no homes or jobs to go to “We can give you an opportunity to get your life back. What do you have to lose at this point?”


  32. cmw says:

    Stories about the superdome run by local mafia

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0903-03.htm
    about men being beaten to death

    i saw another report about men beaten to death – can’t find the link


  33. SpudgeBoy says:

    Susan, I can see that too. I know these recruiters will do anything to meet their quotas. These poor people are now ripe fruit for Bush’s illegal war. WHat did Rummfeld call them “cannon fodder”

    Maybe this catastrophie will wise them up and help them to realise they should be voting along faith lines but rather for a good president.


  34. Marie says:

    Jonah is a horse’s ass. He should be suspended for a while until he can rejoin reality. There is no justifiable excuse for this president, for his administration. They can’t deny that they ignore blacks, that they ignore poor. The blatant racism exhibited by even the rescuers as they pass up desperate people to save the comfortable ones from the hotel is undeniable. K. West was right; he told the ugly truth — too bad the West Coast version was edited. Meanwhile the commander-in-chump was seen with two attractive black girls hugging and reassuring them (about 5 days too late and 5 days too short).
    Bush the Incompetent appointed his equally incompetent friends to run crucial matters of security and safety with their having NO experience.
    Able-bodied people were seen trying to walk out of the city but they were halted “for their own safety,” and made to return. Outrageous.
    The nation must not forget this, the press must not let this pass if another sweet young blonde goes missing; it’s time for the press to go back to the mission of the fourth estate – challenging power, instead of smiling sweetly while defending the worst president in hour history!


  35. cmw says:

    This from Bush
    “I am not looking forward to this trip. It’s as if the entire Gulf coast were obliterated by the worst kind of weapon you can imagine.”

    He’s probably very proud of himself as are his nazi friends and family


  36. Marie says:

    Every mayor in the nation should re-examine what would happen to their cities in the event of a disaster or dirty bomb or chemical attack.
    The government will NOT be there to help.


  37. Marie says:

    #25 there are untrue rumors flying — about babies being killed, corpses being eaten — they are unfounded.


  38. cmw says:

    They’ll be toasting themselves tonight in DC – 10,000 poor eliminated – good job – next time let’s go for 20,000 dead by embedding and silencing the damn media


  39. cmw says:

    #39
    I wouldn’t be so sure about that


  40. cmw says:

    “Jackson, who was in New Orleans helping with the relief effort, described appalling conditions: “Today I saw 5,000 African-Americans on the I-10 causeway desperate, perishing, dehydrated, babies dying,” he said. “It looked like Africans in the hull of a slave ship. It was so ugly and so obvious.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/03/katrina.impact/index.html


  41. spyder says:

    Jonah is desperately trying to rise to the next hierarchical step up the golden pyramid of punditry millions. He looks around and sees from his current vantage point the shills below and then discovers that he is nothing but another shill to his millionaire heros above: Limbaugh, Coulter, O’Reilly, Hannity. So he, like so many of his peers, writes more outrageous ugly bitter rants, hoping that he will someday be like them.

    If we all ignored him, he would go away into another celebrity dustbin. So let’s, shall we?

    I think there is something that is not being critiqued. While i agree that classism, racism, and militarism are part and parcel of the massive incompetence and failure of the “system” to properly and effectively interdict in this emergency, i do believe that a huge part of the issue is partisan political punishment. Since Bushco took office, they have punished their political enemies through the use of the budget. Democratic congressional districts, Democratic Senators, Democratic Governors—have all been attacked by the cutting of funds. A recent study of Congressional earmarks shows that many more billions have gone to GOP party loyalists and their corporate campaign financiers, than to Dems. Bush landed, with Haley Barbour, in a GOP stronghold in Mississippi. He flew over NOLA. The message has been clear: if you support us politically you get resources and attention; if you do not you will get less and less federal support. Combining the political appointments of incompetent managers of bureaucracies with their own arrogant white classist elitism and desire to destroy their political enemies reveals the depth of the issues that foment chaos and anarchy in the US.


  42. Jesus Christ God of War says:

    I watched the MSM last night. Guess what? The Repugs who think they can somehow “win” this argument that Bush is somehow still a hero are loosing their own over this. Virtually every pundit from the ReichWingNut side of the dial have said that Bush mishandled this. Person after person noted the callous indifference of the Bush Administration. Every single one of them noted that the race card has been played.

    Imagine the Repugs saying it was wrong for Bush to be off playing golf, in AZ, and later in CA for speeches to people who were not at the time in trouble. Yep. It’s true. Most noted that Bush’s misshandling of NOLA will cost him politically on the scale from 1 to 10 (with 10 being a melt down) at an 8 or a 9!!!

    You should have heard what the very conservative David Brooks had to say on the topic. He sounded like he had moved to the far left! He said that he’s so angry right now that this must be how Mark Shields feels. Really an amazing show of strong emotion and rational thought poured out against the King George.

    All these blabbering Repug wack-jobs who post the most rediculous things all over the ‘net have lost the argument. And they don’t see it. Oh well. Too bad for them.


  43. SpudgeBoy says:

    #41

    I can’t believe this:

    “Without water, firefighters were helpless. They were forced to abandon efforts to fight a blaze that threatened to consume an upscale riverfront mall, where looters had been seen earlier.”

    WHat the hell are they doing putting out fires at the yuppy mall when people are dying. Screw putting out fires until you have evacuated every single last person. Stop protecting the assests of the rich.


  44. Sharon Cox says:

    This entire mess makes me ill and outraged. The richest country in the world, our’s, treating her citizens worse than prisoners of war while the dictator and company are on vacation. There are still many not rescued from attics, no food,water or contact from the outside world. Then we have all the thousands still in that dreadful dome and on the streets. Where are all our choppers and equipment.? Canada and many countries have offered their assistance and have been refused. What? Refused to help when you can’t do the job. We have some major problems people and need to address them now before another american dies. I bet if it were not for the pipe line and refineries down there Bush wouldent have gone at all. Noticed he mentioned the pipe line in one of his photo opp’s. And the aid arrived 5 days after the fact and on cue with the photo opps. I have been sending out emails and letters to all the senators, gov’s and any one I can to donate along with me any help possible. When done and every one rescued or accounted for I’m going to start marching to get every last one of our politicians no matter the party, who has aided and abeted these criminals, out of office and in jail. Big order, you bet. Let’s do it.


  45. Joe Sixpack says:

    Actually, I go along with with Johah Goldberg’s attack on the liberal media, when she says it is “rhetorical point scoring at its cheapest and most disengenous.” I also like the way she mentions that bastion of political correctness, Senator Tom DeLay’s “rightly” take on the question. I mean, who are you going to believe, her and DeLay or your lying eyes?

    But correct me if I’m wrong, Jonah, but I suspect if this had been Corpus Christi, Texas or Coral Gables, Florida, help for “the poor and the blacks” would have been on the ground within hours with Bush there leading the way.


  46. KJ Lovell says:

    I think dumbya summed up how he feels about the poor, black etc…(everyone but “his type”)….in the film footage of him at a RePUGNICAN fund raiser…

    …..here we are, the HAVES AND THE HAVE MORES…I call you my base.

    WHAT AN IDIOT! WHAT AN ASS! THIS DOES NOT EVEN QUALIFY AS CRUDE HUMOR.


  47. marblex says:

    LONG POST … DISGUSTING. Can it be in ANY doubt at all? The Cheney administration
    is THWARTING RELIEF EFFORTS ON PURPOSE. They want to kill as many poor blacks as possible. But this is a world wide problem

    Mere incompetence could not possibly possibly explain why:

    1. Offers of foreign aid have been refused.
    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050902/ts_nm/weather_katrina_reaction_dc
    2. Offers of domestic aid have been refused.
    http://www.suntimes.com/output/hurricane/cst-nws-daley03.html
    3. FEMA HAS DONE NOTHING
    http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/24989/
    4. 4 days to mobilize National Guard
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/02/AR2005090202170.html?nav=rss_nation
    5. 40% LA’s National Guard in Iraq
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0509010009sep01,1,6491327.story?coll=chi-news-hed
    6. LA’s National Guard’s high water vehicles in Iraq
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0509010009sep01,1,6491327.story?coll=chi-news-hed
    7. No food drops in NOLA. (WHY? FEMA HAS NOT ORDERED THEM)
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/02/AR2005090200670_2.html
    6. Levee reinforcement/rebuilding project purposefully underfunded
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/weather_katrina_funding_dc
    http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0902-26.htm
    8. Blacks portrayed by corporate advertising and marketing media as lawless animals; whites acting same (per Locke, reduced to a state of “nature”) portrayed as “struggling to survive” — White guilt being played by contending those left behind stayed “by choice”
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050831/ap_on_re_us/katrina_looting_hk1 (for instance)
    9. Red Cross BANNED FROM ENTERING NOLA
    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/pp/05246/565143.stm
    10. Stockpiled emergency supplies UNUSED
    http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/03/katrina.unusedgear/index.html

    Look up project H.A.A.R.P. and the practice of AWM (artificial weather manipulation). NO it is not fiction. Think about it. Why is there a massive scalar wave antennae array in the arctic? Who built it? (USA) How (diverted unreported taxpayer money) Why?
    R E A D about what it is and how it works. Richard Hoagland (www.enterprisemission.com) has done a lot of work on this. HURRICANES do not change course and turn around to hit a second time. This MAY have been contributed to by unnatural human intervention.

    The tsunami that hit Indonesia was of a far greater magnitude than the preceding earthquake should, by calculus of experience, have caused, according to seismologists. (Google it, bitches). There has even been speculation that a nuclear blast, rather than the earthquake, precipitated it.

    Think about it. The genocide in Darfur (”arabs”) running africans off the land. Not just killing them, mind you, but off the land altogether. Why? SOMEONE ELSE WANTS IT.

    Africa is the single resource-richest continent on Earth.

    Think about it. Hundreds of thousands of poor Indonesians wiped off the Indonesian coast.

    Think about it. Thousands of poor blacks wiped off the Gulf coast.

    Think about it. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis murdered by U.S. soldiers and bombs.

    Think about it. Bankruptcy act; Patriot Act; Real I.D.; Detentions without due process.

    The world is being “cleansed” of minorities so that the white population can have it all.

    We will all be branded like cattle with RFID chips; enslaved by debt; and forget about “ownership” of anything…YOU are the one who will be owned.

    Think about it.

    Novus ordo seculorum.

    Welcome to the New World Order.


  48. Susan says:

    The impeachment movement is stronger than ever.

    votetoimpeach.org


  49. mighty aphrodite says:

    It is such fun watching the stimulating “debate” (and intellectually redeeming “conversation”)between Spudge and Susan. For those without the time or inclination -here is an encapsulated version:
    I HATE GEORGE BUSH!!
    NO, I HAAAATTTTEEEE HIM MOOOOORE!!!
    EVERYTHING WRONG IN LIFE IS GEORGE BUSH’S FAULT!!
    NO, EVERYTHING WRONG ***EVERYWHERE*** IS GEORGE BUSH’S FAULT.
    I HATE GEORGE BUSH, REPUGNACANS, AND ALL NEO-CONS.
    NO, I HAAAATTTEE ALL OF THE ABOVE AND ANYBODY TO THE RIGHT OF FIDEL!!!!
    You get the picture.


  50. Casey Jones says:

    You know what’s even more fun? Watching chimpy and even people like you get fvcked in the ear with a rusty railroad spike!


  51. Fritz says:

    We’re just a Rodney King-type police beating away from a race riot in a major city like Detroit or Los Angeles.

    Who is going to stop tens of thousands of the disenfranchised from looting and burning these cities to the ground? The National Guard?

    We’re on a dangerous precipice, folks!


  52. SpudgeBoy says:

    Susan, don’t respond to the new troll., even though she summed up exactly how I feel, it was still a vailed attack.


  53. Susan says:

    I hate Bushie more than you do SpudgeBoy! LOL!


  54. Marie says:

    Trolls are not welcome here. They have nothing to say except to feebly defend the worst president in history. There is no defense of him.
    The impeachment movement is growing by the day.
    When all the victims are fed, bathed and housed, it will be time to begin the official movement to get this man and his motley crew of misfits out of office.
    There is not one of them worth his salt. All are incompetent, lying, ineffective sycophants who are in their jobs because of patronage, partisanship and pals of GWB.


  55. Dartanyon says:

    Jonah Goldberg. Is he still sleeping with his mother?


  56. SpudgeBoy says:

    Wait, I hat Bush more.


  57. Keneth Bunkport says:

    This is a five day infomercial on Goverment incompetence and impotence. You could not even put a pricetag on it.


  58. Susan says:

    I bet Bushie hates me more than you SpudgeBoy! How much ya wanna bet?


  59. John says:

    I rather enjoy watching the trolls and other media apologists try to put out this massive blaze with a squirt gun.


  60. SpudgeBoy says:

    I’ll bet you every penny that the Bush adminstartiong has made me indebted for.


  61. marblex says:

    John (#60) you have hit it right on. That is about the ONLY thing even quasi good that is coming out of this. Not merely because of the schatenfruede, but because this may actually wake the sheeple up as to exactly what this country has become:

    THE NEW WEIMAR REPUBLIC.


  62. Joe Sixpack says:

    Hey, #49 mighty aphrodite, glad you showed up to give me a hand holding up the “right” side here (pun intended, heh heh). You sure put those lefties, ol’ Spudge and Susan in their places. I bet they hate George more than we hate that Clinton, huh?

    Now correct me if I’m wrong here, but did you really mean “encapsulated” or did you mean “encomium” here? Those big words are hard on us rednecks and can easily be taken out of context.


  63. Susan says:

    SpudgeBoy, I will see your bet (debt) and I will raise you Cheney’s Halliburton kickbacks.


  64. mighty aphrodite says:

    #62 – I NEVER hated Clinton! I didn’t like his lie about “not raising taxes on the middle class” or him not supporting the ban on “partial birth abortion”. BUT he DID do the RIGHT thing in Bosnia!! Didn’t want him for a neighbor – I’d be worried as I had two nubile (complex word for: “attractive”) daughters at home at that time and he has the moral compass of a pimp.BUT he DID do the RIGHT thing in Bosnia!! I liked his over-haul of the welfare system and his emphasis on job/skills training for the poor or displaced middle class. I don’t blame him for bin Laden as hindsight is 20/20.

    Yes, the “intolerant left” HAAAATTEEEE more than any group of politicos. They love only those who blindly agree w/ them, they are aggressively PRO-CENSORSHIP (NOTE: “HATE-SPEECH” rules and regs), many are aggressively ENVIOUS of EVERYBODY with a bigger pot to piss in. Those intellectually lazy members of the “useful idiots” club want the gov’t to provide everything for everybody – it boils down to control and power – something the squishy left craves, but currently has eluded them.

    In conclusion – they REJOICE in the misery of others as many often view this as a vehicle for political change. Marx captured the sentiment well in the description of the proletariat in the Communist Manifesto.


  65. Susan says:

    I once saw a picture of a hermaphrodite on the internet. It was mainly woman.


  66. Marie says:

    We don’t acknowledge trolls. This week, more than ever, they are totally clueless.


  67. mighty aphrodite says:

    # 66 Marie – your jealous life would be pitiful w/o trolls. We allow you to sharpen your “arguments”. Not done reading the “Manifesto” – or still committing it to memory?


  68. mighty aphrodite says:

    Please explain (and then I’ll leave this thread) how so many lefties can UTILIZE the SUFFEING of soooo many to rejoice at the thought of “regime change”??? You may go look up your “talking points’ now.


  69. Tom the Barbarian says:

    I join with many in wondering why it took as long as it did to get a substansial military presence in to NO as it did. But I also wonder why the mayor’s call for a mandatory evacuation didn’t include using at least some of the 200+ buses under his control which are still standing roughly a mile from the Superdome (see http://instapundit.com/archives/025310.php)

    Most coastal communities (at least those with functioning governments) have a disaster evacuation plan in place that involves some sort of provision for actual evacuation. It is almost inconceivable that NO had no plan worthy of the name. I find it hard to blame Bush for that. I can blame him plenty for not getting relief in more quickly but the magnitude of the human suffering, at least in terms of the number of people stranded, lies directly at the feet of the City of New Oleans.


  70. I-RIGHT-I says:

    “magnitude of the human suffering, at least in terms of the number of people stranded, lies directly at the feet of the City of New Oleans.”

    Save your breath Tom, they know that but it doesn’t work for them.

    By the way don’t forget Gov. Blanco. Heheheh…I’m a little surprised Je$$ie or Al $harpton hasn’t made an issue of her name meaning White. I think that would get some traction. Damn the luck, she’s a she and a Democrat she to boot!


  71. I-RIGHT-I says:

    By the way, the Blacks have not been left behind here in Houston. They are in the front of the line stealing everything that isn’t nailed down.

    The Toyota dealer across from the Astrodome has lost eight cars already. I flat out guarantee you, Texans will shoot looters or anyone breaking and entering. It’s in our Constitution some place.


  72. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Oh, oh..one more thing. That Evil White Federal Government just sent over to the Astrodome 2.3 million dollars worth of designer clothes they confiscated from some bad guys. There will be, I forget the term..people who help match your ensemble, there to help the poor folk out with some new clothes. It seems the shit I sent over wasn’t good enough. Houston may have a major crime wave underway but we’ll have the best dressed looters, rapists and murderers in the nation. You betcha.


  73. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Thought for the day:

    “I am beginning to believe that black people, no matter where in the world they are, are cursed with a genetic predisposition to steal, murder, and create mayhem.”

    I didn’t say that, this guy did.

    http://www.jamaica-star.com/ thestar/ 20050902/ cleisure/ cleisure1.html


  74. mighty aphrodite says:

    Back to the topic – you “non-partisans” also noted the “eloquent” mayor along with his family and friends got out – just in the nick of time!! Whew!


  75. steepskier says:

    To paraphrase: When the revolution comes it will not be black against white. It will be the poor who rise up against the wealthy. Having been neglected and abused at the hands of a few who sought profit and personal comfort at the expense of those who could not work the system that was set up in the favor of those with money. It will be the poor who, rising up against the rich, will change the fundamental make-up of this country.
    – Malcolm X


  76. Bobby Head says:

    WHAT I HAVE NOT SEEN;
    WHAT YOU WILL NOT SEE ON T.V. ABOUT NEW ORLEANS:

    The ACLU setting up a feeding line.

    People for the American Way helping in the shelters.

    The NAACP doing any work whatsover.

    The American Atheist organization serving meals in the shelters.

    Jesse Jackson directing traffic at the gas stations.

    The gripers in Congress should come on down and get in line to pass the water and the ice. Are you listening and all of the sorry loafers we call Senators and Congressmen. They don’t have a clue as to what this life is all about here on the Gulf Coast.


  77. grandpa stole bets says:

    Program on the emergence of civilization.

    “14 species of large animals capable of domesitcation in the history of mankind.
    13 from Europe, Asia and northern Africa.
    None from the sub-Saharan African continent. ”
    Favor.
    And disfavor.

    They point out Africans’ failed attempts to domesticate the elephant and zebra, the latter being an animal they illustrate that had utmost importance for it’s applicability in transformation from a hunting/gathering to agrarian-based civilization.

    The roots of racism are not of this earth.

    Austrailia, aboriginals:::No domesticable animals.

    The North American continent had none. Now 99% of that population is gone.

    AIDS in Africa.

    Organizational Heirarchy/Levels of positioning.
    Heirarchical order, from top to bottom:

    1. MUCK – perhaps have experienced multiple universal contractions (have seen multiple big bangs), creator of the artificial intelligence humans ignorantly refer to as “god”
    2. Perhaps some mid-level alien management
    3. Evil/disfavored aliens – runs day-to-day operations here and perhaps elsewhere

    Terrestrial management/positioning:

    4. Chinese/egyptians – this may be separated into the eastern and western worlds
    5. Romans –
    6. Mafia – the real-world 20th century interface that constantly turns over generationally so as to reinforce the widely-held notion of mortality
    7. Jews, corporation, women, politician – Evidence exisits to suggest mafia management over all these groups.

    Movies foreshadowing catastrophy
    1985 James Bond View to a Kill 1989 San Francisco Loma Prieta earthquake.

    Our society gives clues to the system in place. We all have heard the saying “He has more money than god.” There is also an episode of the Simpsons where god meets Homer and says “I’m too old and rich for this.”

    This is the system on earth because this is the system everywhere.

    I don’t want to suggest the upper eschelons are evil and good is the fringe.

    But they have made it abundantly clear that doing business with evil (disfavored) won’t help people. They say only good would have the ear, since evil is struggling for survival, and therefore only the favored could help.

    The clues are there which companies are favored and which are disfavored, but they conceal it very hard because it is so crucial.

    I offer an example of historical proportions:::

    People point to Walmart and cry “anti-union”.
    Unions enable disfavored people to live satisfactorly without addressing their disfavor. This way their family’s problems are never resolved. Without the union they would have to accept the heirarchy, their own inferiority.
    Unions serve to empower.
    Walmart is anti-union because they are good. They try to help people address and resolve their problems by creating an enviornment where there are fewer hurdles.

    Media ridicule and lawsuits are creations to reinforce people’s belief that Walmart is evil in a subsegment of the indistry dominated by the middle and lower classes.
    Low-cost disfavored Chinese labor is utilized by corporate america to maximize margins. They all do it. Only WalMart gets fingered because they are the ones who help, and those who seek to create confusion in the marketplace want to eliminate the vast middle class who have a real chance and instead stick with lower classes who may not work otherwise. So they dirty him up while allowing the others to appear clean.

    The middle class is being deceived. They are being misled into the unfavored, and subsequently will have no assistance from their purchases with corporate america.

    I believe the coining of the term “Uncle Sam” was a clue alluding to just this::Sam Walton and WalMart is one of few saviors of the peasant class.

    Amercia is a country of castoffs, rejects. Italy sent its criminals. Malcontents.
    Between the thrones, the klans and kindred, they “decided” who they didn’t want and acted, creating discontent and/or starvation.
    The u.s. is full of disfavored rejects. It is the reason for the myriad of problems not found in European countries. As far as the Rockafellers and other industrialists of the 19th century go, I suspect these aren’t their real names. I suspect they were chosen to go and head this new empire.

    Royalty is the right way to organize a society. Dictatorships and monarchies are a reflection of the antient’s hierarchical organization.
    Positions go to those who have favor with the rulers, as opposed to being elected.
    Elections bring a false sense of how the world is. Democracy misleads people.
    Which is why the disfavored rejects were sent to the shores of America::To keep them on the wrong path.

    Jesus Christ is a religious figure of evil. These seperatist churches formed so they could still capture the rest of the white people, keeping them worshipping the wrong god.
    And now they do it to people of color, Latinos and Asians, after centuries of preying upon them.

    Simpson’s foreshadowing::Helloween IV special, Flanders is Satan. “Last one you ever suspect.”
    “You’ll see lots of nuns where you’re going:::hell!!!” St. Wigham, Helloween VI, missionary work, destroying cultures.
    Over and over, the Simpsons was a source of education and enlightenment, a target of ridicule by the system which wishes to conceal its secrets.

    Since Buddism doesn’t recongnize a god, the calls are never heard, and Chinese representation is instead selected by the thrones.
    Budda was the Asian’s Jesus Christ::: bad for the people. “They came up at the same time for a reason.”

    Jews maim the body formed in the image of “god”, and inflicted circumsision upon all other white people, as well as the evil that is Jesus Christ.
    I think about how Jews (were used to) created homosexuality among Slavics, retribution for the Holocaust.
    Then I think of the Catholic Church and its troubles.
    What connection is here between Jews and the Catholic church???
    If it is their sinister motives that’s behind the evil that is Jesus Christ are they being used at all?
    Perhaps it is them who are pulling strings.
    Their centuries of slavery in Egypt proves their disfavor. The Jew leaders decided to prey on the up-and-coming Europeans to try to fix their problems with the ruling elite, a recurring aspect of their methodology.

    I believe Islam is the one true religion, and those misled christians who attack “god”’s most favored people will pay dearly one day.



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