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		<title>By: frustrated</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/04/worst-abandonments/comment-page-8/#comment-1772615</link>
		<dc:creator>frustrated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 05:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a late comment- I just found this site--from some one who flooded from Katrina.
Check your facts-- the story Broussard tells about the mother drowning is not true.
The man&#039;s mother did die, in a home, the week before the storm. Broussard lost it during the after math of the storm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a late comment- I just found this site&#8211;from some one who flooded from Katrina.<br />
Check your facts&#8211; the story Broussard tells about the mother drowning is not true.<br />
The man&#8217;s mother did die, in a home, the week before the storm. Broussard lost it during the after math of the storm.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1772615', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Nik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For sure America has terorists- the goverment. i ment mafiaso</description>
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		<title>By: Farell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody who actually rode in boxcars to a German concentration camp? When they get out of the boxcars, they scour the ground in gardens that were once there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody who actually rode in boxcars to a German concentration camp? When they get out of the boxcars, they scour the ground in gardens that were once there.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1157925', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Hal Brons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal Brons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Bush is a racist pig who wants what Hitler wanted. Wrecking our 
nation and then install his own Gov. by using FEMA and other law agencies.
 I met a BATF agent once. An arrogant bastard who did not even flash his ID when he detained me and a buddy for some stupid gun show crap. He didn&#039;t even care when I told him of it. 
 Some of these idiots are in charge of law enf. and GOD help us!
 People better wake up.
 For one day you will not have an America. You&#039;ll be in a camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Bush is a racist pig who wants what Hitler wanted. Wrecking our<br />
nation and then install his own Gov. by using FEMA and other law agencies.<br />
 I met a BATF agent once. An arrogant bastard who did not even flash his ID when he detained me and a buddy for some stupid gun show crap. He didn&#8217;t even care when I told him of it.<br />
 Some of these idiots are in charge of law enf. and GOD help us!<br />
 People better wake up.<br />
 For one day you will not have an America. You&#8217;ll be in a camp.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1035783', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JABbering Stooge :: Better late than never :: June :: 2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>JABbering Stooge :: Better late than never :: June :: 2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] State and local governments, knowing that they would quickly be overwhelmed, requested federal aid on August 28, and began evacuating those left behind in the storm &#8211; mostly those who were too poor or too sick to leave &#8211; the day after the levees broke. While the speed of evacuation certainly was not exemplary, it was a far cry better than FEMA, who apparently was sitting on its posterior waiting for Bush to give the go-ahead to take charge of the situation &#8211; when they weren&#8217;t actively sabotaging the state and local efforts by cutting the emergency communications lines and turning back relief supplies, according to Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: where my spark is &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Politically inspired to post these</title>
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		<dc:creator>where my spark is &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Politically inspired to post these</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MobThink</title>
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		<dc:creator>MobThink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I want to give you one last story and Iâ€™ll shut up and let you tell me whatever you want to tell me. The guy who runs this building Iâ€™m in, Emergency Management, heâ€™s responsible for everything. His mother was trapped in St. Bernard nursing home and every day she called him and said, â€œAre you coming, son? Is somebody coming?â€ and he said, â€œYeah, Mama, somebodyâ€™s coming to get you.â€ Somebodyâ€™s coming to get you on Tuesday. Somebodyâ€™s coming to get you on Wednesday. Somebodyâ€™s coming to get you on Thursday. Somebodyâ€™s coming to get you on Fridayâ€¦ and she drowned Friday night. She drowned Friday night! [Sobbing] Nobodyâ€™s coming to get us. Nobodyâ€™s coming to get us. The Secretary has promised. Everybodyâ€™s promised. Theyâ€™ve had press conferences. Iâ€™m sick of the press conferences. For godâ€™s sakes, just shut up and send us somebody. (transcript taken from here) Neil Young : Ohio [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I want to give you one last story and Iâ€™ll shut up and let you tell me whatever you want to tell me. The guy who runs this building Iâ€™m in, Emergency Management, heâ€™s responsible for everything. His mother was trapped in St. Bernard nursing home and every day she called him and said, â€œAre you coming, son? Is somebody coming?â€ and he said, â€œYeah, Mama, somebodyâ€™s coming to get you.â€ Somebodyâ€™s coming to get you on Tuesday. Somebodyâ€™s coming to get you on Wednesday. Somebodyâ€™s coming to get you on Thursday. Somebodyâ€™s coming to get you on Fridayâ€¦ and she drowned Friday night. She drowned Friday night! [Sobbing] Nobodyâ€™s coming to get us. Nobodyâ€™s coming to get us. The Secretary has promised. Everybodyâ€™s promised. Theyâ€™ve had press conferences. Iâ€™m sick of the press conferences. For godâ€™s sakes, just shut up and send us somebody. (transcript taken from here) Neil Young : Ohio [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=488844', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fransisco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fransisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So.......Where&#039;s the beef?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;&#8230;.Where&#8217;s the beef?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=461330', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: flamingjune</title>
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		<dc:creator>flamingjune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: william reece</title>
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		<dc:creator>william reece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i went through the katrina storm , was held captive at the convention center displaced to arkansa , to a shelter , drilled by fema day and night meetings and promises lies and lectures 5 months in this hotel paid for buy fema . have not recieved the first penny or any help from fema the hotel rooms will not be paid for after the 13 . and after all this they say i am not qualified for assistance on anything i have nothing and now i have no home . to many people have this same story , billions of tax paying dollars for structures and nothing to help a human</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i went through the katrina storm , was held captive at the convention center displaced to arkansa , to a shelter , drilled by fema day and night meetings and promises lies and lectures 5 months in this hotel paid for buy fema . have not recieved the first penny or any help from fema the hotel rooms will not be paid for after the 13 . and after all this they say i am not qualified for assistance on anything i have nothing and now i have no home . to many people have this same story , billions of tax paying dollars for structures and nothing to help a human<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=444647', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dhyaa ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>dhyaa ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear sir ,

   i very glad to write this massage for you and i wish you are having agood time ,we are a NGO center here in iraq we are looking for a NGO from usa to take them experiance in ngo work so that we need your help for us to send an address of them for us and we well be very thankful for you if do that for us.....we looking for hear from you soon.
with best regards...
NGO center in iraq -mosul
dhyaa77@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear sir ,</p>
<p>   i very glad to write this massage for you and i wish you are having agood time ,we are a NGO center here in iraq we are looking for a NGO from usa to take them experiance in ngo work so that we need your help for us to send an address of them for us and we well be very thankful for you if do that for us&#8230;..we looking for hear from you soon.<br />
with best regards&#8230;<br />
NGO center in iraq -mosul<br />
<a href="mailto:dhyaa77@yahoo.com">dhyaa77@yahoo.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=331166', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Stubain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stubain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget that the world class bigot and race pimp Luis Farrakhan has &quot;proof&quot; that &quot;the white man&quot; used explosives to blow the levy in NO so the 9th Ward (a black neighborhood) would flood instead of rich white neighborhoods.  Yeah, right.  Nutty folks like this make it very difficult to bridge the gap between the races.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that the world class bigot and race pimp Luis Farrakhan has &#8220;proof&#8221; that &#8220;the white man&#8221; used explosives to blow the levy in NO so the 9th Ward (a black neighborhood) would flood instead of rich white neighborhoods.  Yeah, right.  Nutty folks like this make it very difficult to bridge the gap between the races.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=173533', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Stubain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stubain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blame enough to go around:
Bush: should have checked resume of FEMA appointee (but.. He did sign the paperwork to declare the Coast in disaster mode before the storm hit, AND he did call the LA gov to urge her to evacuate.) Political appointments are just that (political) and they require no experience. Clinton appointed his wife to be in charge of the Health Care political position. This is the way things are done there. Yes, it needs to be changed!
FEMA: should have had a way to cut through red tape (but.. rules prevent them from moving in without permission) Would you really want the government to be able to bring in troops at their whim??? These rules are in place for a reason. All you have to do is ask!
Gov of LA: wasnâ€™t prepared, wouldnâ€™t accept help, couldnâ€™t make decisions; had her STATE FEMA refuse aid from Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc; didnâ€™t ask (but.. she did ask the people to evacuate before the storm)
Mayor of NO: incompetent &amp; demanding (but.. He did tell NO before the storm hit to either leave or get an axe ready for cutting their way out of their attic) He is still incompetent by allowing his residents to return to dangerous mold, no health care, no schools, etc.
Victims: didnâ€™t listen; voted into office all of those above
Citizens of US: for promoting a welfare society making people dependent on assistance. NO is a good example of the â€œhelp meâ€ society we have created. Donâ€™t give a man a fish, give him a fishing pole! People are more mentally happy when they earn. The people in MS were hardest hit; the news clips show them cutting their way out and cleaning up. Iâ€™m proud of MS: Real American Spirit!!!
Media: Airing stories that are false; sending reporters to hurricanes right in the middle of them (Message to people: hurricanes arenâ€™t so bad); hyping up ALL stories to the point that people donâ€™t believe them anymore, so they donâ€™t evacuate.
Democrats: Taking advantage of a country in crisis to sling mud; acting like drama queens
Republicans: continuing to ride the system where changes need to be made; failing to get the truth to the media

Does anyone here think they couldnâ€™t leave? Did you see the news clip showing the NO man who stole one of the busses and picked up people enroute to Houston? By the time he reached Houston he had a full bus, and those people all chipped in to pay for gas. He should run for mayor! (Another person did it too, I hear.) The remainder of the busses just sat there, while people were grumbling and complaing that help wasnâ€™t coming fast enough and turning on each other. Help came right on schedule: 3 days after the disaster; the disaster didnâ€™t occur until the levy broke. State was in charge until then. State has to ask first.

It is only logical that the people closest to the disaster area (NO, LA) should be the first line of help and notify federal level if it is too much. BUT FIRSTâ€¦ be prepared to last for a few days while help is being organized; you knew it was coming! That is why there are local governments, local government plans and state plans, and local charities: Salvation Army always seems to be there without calling attention to themselves. Has anyone noticed that? I have a lot of respect for the Salvation Army.

â€œAsk not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.â€ 

THIS is the attitude we should take, the country is made up of peopleâ€¦ usâ€¦ what have we done? Letâ€™s take responsibility; ask what we can do. If you give money, find out how it will be spent and whether or not it is needed there. Complaining does not help get the job done. It is a negative force that attacks the spirit. Americans are a great people; pull together during our crisis! Help each other, regardless of what party is in charge! 

Comment by pat 



Hark!  There are sane and rational people in here!  I could not have said it better. You must be a Libertarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blame enough to go around:<br />
Bush: should have checked resume of FEMA appointee (but.. He did sign the paperwork to declare the Coast in disaster mode before the storm hit, AND he did call the LA gov to urge her to evacuate.) Political appointments are just that (political) and they require no experience. Clinton appointed his wife to be in charge of the Health Care political position. This is the way things are done there. Yes, it needs to be changed!<br />
FEMA: should have had a way to cut through red tape (but.. rules prevent them from moving in without permission) Would you really want the government to be able to bring in troops at their whim??? These rules are in place for a reason. All you have to do is ask!<br />
Gov of LA: wasnâ€™t prepared, wouldnâ€™t accept help, couldnâ€™t make decisions; had her STATE FEMA refuse aid from Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc; didnâ€™t ask (but.. she did ask the people to evacuate before the storm)<br />
Mayor of NO: incompetent &amp; demanding (but.. He did tell NO before the storm hit to either leave or get an axe ready for cutting their way out of their attic) He is still incompetent by allowing his residents to return to dangerous mold, no health care, no schools, etc.<br />
Victims: didnâ€™t listen; voted into office all of those above<br />
Citizens of US: for promoting a welfare society making people dependent on assistance. NO is a good example of the â€œhelp meâ€ society we have created. Donâ€™t give a man a fish, give him a fishing pole! People are more mentally happy when they earn. The people in MS were hardest hit; the news clips show them cutting their way out and cleaning up. Iâ€™m proud of MS: Real American Spirit!!!<br />
Media: Airing stories that are false; sending reporters to hurricanes right in the middle of them (Message to people: hurricanes arenâ€™t so bad); hyping up ALL stories to the point that people donâ€™t believe them anymore, so they donâ€™t evacuate.<br />
Democrats: Taking advantage of a country in crisis to sling mud; acting like drama queens<br />
Republicans: continuing to ride the system where changes need to be made; failing to get the truth to the media</p>
<p>Does anyone here think they couldnâ€™t leave? Did you see the news clip showing the NO man who stole one of the busses and picked up people enroute to Houston? By the time he reached Houston he had a full bus, and those people all chipped in to pay for gas. He should run for mayor! (Another person did it too, I hear.) The remainder of the busses just sat there, while people were grumbling and complaing that help wasnâ€™t coming fast enough and turning on each other. Help came right on schedule: 3 days after the disaster; the disaster didnâ€™t occur until the levy broke. State was in charge until then. State has to ask first.</p>
<p>It is only logical that the people closest to the disaster area (NO, LA) should be the first line of help and notify federal level if it is too much. BUT FIRSTâ€¦ be prepared to last for a few days while help is being organized; you knew it was coming! That is why there are local governments, local government plans and state plans, and local charities: Salvation Army always seems to be there without calling attention to themselves. Has anyone noticed that? I have a lot of respect for the Salvation Army.</p>
<p>â€œAsk not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.â€ </p>
<p>THIS is the attitude we should take, the country is made up of peopleâ€¦ usâ€¦ what have we done? Letâ€™s take responsibility; ask what we can do. If you give money, find out how it will be spent and whether or not it is needed there. Complaining does not help get the job done. It is a negative force that attacks the spirit. Americans are a great people; pull together during our crisis! Help each other, regardless of what party is in charge! </p>
<p>Comment by pat </p>
<p>Hark!  There are sane and rational people in here!  I could not have said it better. You must be a Libertarian.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=173523', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jim  brumfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim  brumfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s do something simple.  Take the time line of Katrina and the time line of FEMA and compare them.  FEMA issued orders to cut all power, gas and water into the city of New Orleans.  New Orleans has flooded before and pumped dry in 8 hours.  Maybe the reason it did not pump dry this time is FEMA may have cut the power.  The pumps run off natural gas.  Check this out and please send the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s do something simple.  Take the time line of Katrina and the time line of FEMA and compare them.  FEMA issued orders to cut all power, gas and water into the city of New Orleans.  New Orleans has flooded before and pumped dry in 8 hours.  Maybe the reason it did not pump dry this time is FEMA may have cut the power.  The pumps run off natural gas.  Check this out and please send the info.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=169736', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Change is Good</title>
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		<dc:creator>Change is Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, here, Pat. Very well said! Very objective, rational and true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, here, Pat. Very well said! Very objective, rational and true.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=154174', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blame enough to go around:
Bush: should have checked resume of FEMA appointee (but.. He did sign the paperwork to declare the Coast in disaster mode before the storm hit, AND he did call the LA gov to urge her to evacuate.) Political appointments are just that (political) and they require no experience.  Clinton appointed his wife to be in charge of the Health Care political position. This is the way things are done there.  Yes, it needs to be changed!
FEMA: should have had a way to cut through red tape (but.. rules prevent them from moving in without permission) Would you really want the government to be able to bring in troops at their whim??? These rules are in place for a reason.  All you have to do is ask!
Gov of LA: wasn&#039;t prepared, wouldn&#039;t accept help, couldn&#039;t make decisions; had her STATE FEMA refuse aid from Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc; didn&#039;t ask (but.. she did ask the people to evacuate before the storm)
Mayor of NO: incompetent &amp; demanding (but.. He did tell NO before the storm hit to either leave or get an axe ready for cutting their way out of their attic) He is still incompetent by allowing his residents to return to dangerous mold, no health care, no schools, etc.
Victims: didn&#039;t listen; voted into office all of those above
Citizens of US: for promoting a welfare society making people dependent on assistance.  NO is a good example of the &quot;help me&quot; society we have created.  Don&#039;t give a man a fish, give him a fishing pole! People are more mentally happy when they earn. The people in MS were hardest hit; the news clips show them cutting their way out and cleaning up.  I&#039;m proud of MS: Real American Spirit!!!
Media: Airing stories that are false; sending reporters to hurricanes right in the middle of them (Message to people: hurricanes aren&#039;t so bad); hyping up ALL stories to the point that people don&#039;t believe them anymore, so they don&#039;t evacuate.
Democrats: Taking advantage of a country in crisis to sling mud; acting like drama queens
Republicans: continuing to ride the system where changes need to be made; failing to get the truth to the media


Does anyone here think they couldn&#039;t leave?  Did you see the news clip showing the NO man who stole one of the busses and picked up people enroute to Houston? By the time he reached Houston he had a full bus, and those people all chipped in to pay for gas. He should run for mayor! (Another person did it too, I hear.) The remainder of the busses just sat there, while people were grumbling and complaing that help wasn&#039;t coming fast enough and turning on each other.  Help came right on schedule: 3 days after the disaster; the disaster didn&#039;t occur until the levy broke.  State was in charge until then. State has to ask first.

It is only logical that the people closest to the disaster area (NO, LA) should be the first line of help and notify federal level if it is too much.  BUT FIRST... be prepared to last for a few days while help is being organized; you knew it was coming!  That is why there are local governments, local government plans and state plans, and local charities: Salvation Army always seems to be there without calling attention to themselves.  Has anyone noticed that? I have a lot of respect for the Salvation Army.

&quot;Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.&quot;   


THIS is the attitude we should take, the country is made up of people... us... what have we done?  Let&#039;s take responsibility; ask what we can do.  If you give money, find out how it will be spent and whether or not it is needed there.  Complaining does not help get the job done.  It is a negative force that attacks the spirit.  Americans are a great people; pull together during our crisis!  Help each other, regardless of what party is in charge!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blame enough to go around:<br />
Bush: should have checked resume of FEMA appointee (but.. He did sign the paperwork to declare the Coast in disaster mode before the storm hit, AND he did call the LA gov to urge her to evacuate.) Political appointments are just that (political) and they require no experience.  Clinton appointed his wife to be in charge of the Health Care political position. This is the way things are done there.  Yes, it needs to be changed!<br />
FEMA: should have had a way to cut through red tape (but.. rules prevent them from moving in without permission) Would you really want the government to be able to bring in troops at their whim??? These rules are in place for a reason.  All you have to do is ask!<br />
Gov of LA: wasn&#8217;t prepared, wouldn&#8217;t accept help, couldn&#8217;t make decisions; had her STATE FEMA refuse aid from Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc; didn&#8217;t ask (but.. she did ask the people to evacuate before the storm)<br />
Mayor of NO: incompetent &amp; demanding (but.. He did tell NO before the storm hit to either leave or get an axe ready for cutting their way out of their attic) He is still incompetent by allowing his residents to return to dangerous mold, no health care, no schools, etc.<br />
Victims: didn&#8217;t listen; voted into office all of those above<br />
Citizens of US: for promoting a welfare society making people dependent on assistance.  NO is a good example of the &#8220;help me&#8221; society we have created.  Don&#8217;t give a man a fish, give him a fishing pole! People are more mentally happy when they earn. The people in MS were hardest hit; the news clips show them cutting their way out and cleaning up.  I&#8217;m proud of MS: Real American Spirit!!!<br />
Media: Airing stories that are false; sending reporters to hurricanes right in the middle of them (Message to people: hurricanes aren&#8217;t so bad); hyping up ALL stories to the point that people don&#8217;t believe them anymore, so they don&#8217;t evacuate.<br />
Democrats: Taking advantage of a country in crisis to sling mud; acting like drama queens<br />
Republicans: continuing to ride the system where changes need to be made; failing to get the truth to the media</p>
<p>Does anyone here think they couldn&#8217;t leave?  Did you see the news clip showing the NO man who stole one of the busses and picked up people enroute to Houston? By the time he reached Houston he had a full bus, and those people all chipped in to pay for gas. He should run for mayor! (Another person did it too, I hear.) The remainder of the busses just sat there, while people were grumbling and complaing that help wasn&#8217;t coming fast enough and turning on each other.  Help came right on schedule: 3 days after the disaster; the disaster didn&#8217;t occur until the levy broke.  State was in charge until then. State has to ask first.</p>
<p>It is only logical that the people closest to the disaster area (NO, LA) should be the first line of help and notify federal level if it is too much.  BUT FIRST&#8230; be prepared to last for a few days while help is being organized; you knew it was coming!  That is why there are local governments, local government plans and state plans, and local charities: Salvation Army always seems to be there without calling attention to themselves.  Has anyone noticed that? I have a lot of respect for the Salvation Army.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.&#8221;   </p>
<p>THIS is the attitude we should take, the country is made up of people&#8230; us&#8230; what have we done?  Let&#8217;s take responsibility; ask what we can do.  If you give money, find out how it will be spent and whether or not it is needed there.  Complaining does not help get the job done.  It is a negative force that attacks the spirit.  Americans are a great people; pull together during our crisis!  Help each other, regardless of what party is in charge!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=153577', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MyBlog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jessica Simpson&lt;/strong&gt;

Indeed. I&#039;m amazed the interview got out at all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jessica Simpson</strong></p>
<p>Indeed. I&#8217;m amazed the interview got out at all.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=152966', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Change is Good</title>
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		<dc:creator>Change is Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ravo, I think everyone, or at 99% of us are in agreement....to an extent...with what you have said.  We DO want everyone who is responsible for this catastrophe to be held accountable.  That goes for Nagin, Blanco, Brownie, Chertoff AND BUSH!!!  It seems as though you are forgetting that Bush imposed these changes in FEMA (which happened to work very well during the Clinton administration), and as another post said, hired Mike Brown and other unqualified cronies in to their positions.  So yes, Bush is as responsible as the local and state governments for their failure.  The venom is still here.  But I must ask, why are you &quot;rightist&quot; so convinced that your fellow &quot;rightists&quot; did absolutely nothing wrong?  If Bush were a Democrat, would you still be convinced?  If this was still Clinton&#039;s administration, you and your fellow single-minded brethren would be screaming with as much venom as you claim to witness here.  It seems as though logic goes flying right out the window when it comes to accountability being assigned based on party membership.  Clinton made a bad decision that affected himself, his wife and his childâ€¦.he got a blow job, and was impeached for this bad decision.  Yet some, and I mean some, because most of the Republicans that I have talked to AGREE that this whole thing was handled inappropriatelyâ€¦.so I repeat, some republicans fail to see the need to hold Bushâ€™s administration accountable for the mistakes that were made.  How about accountability being assigned based on right (as in correct and/or good decisions) and wrong (as in bad decisions, lack of knowledge, and lack of leadership, not &quot;left&quot;)?  Better yet, can we focus on making sure that this kind of blunder never happens in our government again, whether it is lead by a Republican or Democrat?  Better still, howz about we focus on the fact that human beings lives are forever changed, and some for the worst, because of bad decision making by both parties?  Social change requires people to think outside of their own social box.  And in all honesty, Democrats have historically thought along the lines of social justice for all Americans, not just the privileged few.  Can you honestly say, even if it was not Bush&#039;s intention, that Bush and this current administration, have shown the slightest interest in anyone other than those who look, live, and worship like them?  The bible says &quot;Love thy neighbor.&quot;  It doesn&#039;t specify white neighbor, black neighbor, Christian neighbor or Muslim neighbor, northern neighbor or southern neighbor.....it just says neighbor.  Yet this pseudo Christian says, &quot;Love them, but just don&#039;t let them get married if they are gay.  Love them, but if their needs get neglect in the midst of a natural disaster because I have focused on loving this Muslim country to death, then so be it.&quot;  Unfortunately, the extreme right has no concept of love thy neighbor because they are too busy loving their own bank account balance.  Yes, Ravo, we do want, need and demand social change.  But it must begin with us at home, not those in power.  We must demand that change be made by those in power, and hire/elect those who are comfortable with change, not those who run from it.  Unfortunately, with attitudes such as the one you&#039;ve shown, I don&#039;t see how change will come!  That is the truly sad part!  Sorry for being so long winded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ravo, I think everyone, or at 99% of us are in agreement&#8230;.to an extent&#8230;with what you have said.  We DO want everyone who is responsible for this catastrophe to be held accountable.  That goes for Nagin, Blanco, Brownie, Chertoff AND BUSH!!!  It seems as though you are forgetting that Bush imposed these changes in FEMA (which happened to work very well during the Clinton administration), and as another post said, hired Mike Brown and other unqualified cronies in to their positions.  So yes, Bush is as responsible as the local and state governments for their failure.  The venom is still here.  But I must ask, why are you &#8220;rightist&#8221; so convinced that your fellow &#8220;rightists&#8221; did absolutely nothing wrong?  If Bush were a Democrat, would you still be convinced?  If this was still Clinton&#8217;s administration, you and your fellow single-minded brethren would be screaming with as much venom as you claim to witness here.  It seems as though logic goes flying right out the window when it comes to accountability being assigned based on party membership.  Clinton made a bad decision that affected himself, his wife and his childâ€¦.he got a blow job, and was impeached for this bad decision.  Yet some, and I mean some, because most of the Republicans that I have talked to AGREE that this whole thing was handled inappropriatelyâ€¦.so I repeat, some republicans fail to see the need to hold Bushâ€™s administration accountable for the mistakes that were made.  How about accountability being assigned based on right (as in correct and/or good decisions) and wrong (as in bad decisions, lack of knowledge, and lack of leadership, not &#8220;left&#8221;)?  Better yet, can we focus on making sure that this kind of blunder never happens in our government again, whether it is lead by a Republican or Democrat?  Better still, howz about we focus on the fact that human beings lives are forever changed, and some for the worst, because of bad decision making by both parties?  Social change requires people to think outside of their own social box.  And in all honesty, Democrats have historically thought along the lines of social justice for all Americans, not just the privileged few.  Can you honestly say, even if it was not Bush&#8217;s intention, that Bush and this current administration, have shown the slightest interest in anyone other than those who look, live, and worship like them?  The bible says &#8220;Love thy neighbor.&#8221;  It doesn&#8217;t specify white neighbor, black neighbor, Christian neighbor or Muslim neighbor, northern neighbor or southern neighbor&#8230;..it just says neighbor.  Yet this pseudo Christian says, &#8220;Love them, but just don&#8217;t let them get married if they are gay.  Love them, but if their needs get neglect in the midst of a natural disaster because I have focused on loving this Muslim country to death, then so be it.&#8221;  Unfortunately, the extreme right has no concept of love thy neighbor because they are too busy loving their own bank account balance.  Yes, Ravo, we do want, need and demand social change.  But it must begin with us at home, not those in power.  We must demand that change be made by those in power, and hire/elect those who are comfortable with change, not those who run from it.  Unfortunately, with attitudes such as the one you&#8217;ve shown, I don&#8217;t see how change will come!  That is the truly sad part!  Sorry for being so long winded.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=152924', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Tattered Coat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FEMA Redux</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Tattered Coat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FEMA Redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From an earlier post:  FEMA won&#8217;t accept Amtrak&#8217;s help in evacuationsFEMA turns away experienced firefightersFEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucksFEMA prevents Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuelFEMA won&#8217;t let Red Cross deliver foodFEMA bars morticians from entering New OrleansFEMA blocks 500-boat citizen flotilla from delivering aidFEMA fails to utilize Navy ship with 600-bed hospital on boardFEMA to Chicago: Send just one truckFEMA turns away generatorsFEMA: &#8220;First Responders Urged Not To Respond&#8221; FEMA Cuts Parish Emergency Communication Lines Without Notice [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From an earlier post:  FEMA won&#8217;t accept Amtrak&#8217;s help in evacuationsFEMA turns away experienced firefightersFEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucksFEMA prevents Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuelFEMA won&#8217;t let Red Cross deliver foodFEMA bars morticians from entering New OrleansFEMA blocks 500-boat citizen flotilla from delivering aidFEMA fails to utilize Navy ship with 600-bed hospital on boardFEMA to Chicago: Send just one truckFEMA turns away generatorsFEMA: &#8220;First Responders Urged Not To Respond&#8221; FEMA Cuts Parish Emergency Communication Lines Without Notice [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=151539', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ravo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a commenter on
http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/09/27/seeing-the-forest-for-the-flood/ 
&lt;i&gt;â€œAs she tried to extort money from the feds while denying their assistance/troops/evacuation controlâ€¦â€¦.she was also starving and dehydrating her people in the dome and convention center.â€&lt;/i&gt;

For all you puppet headed mushbrains here seeking &quot;social justice&quot; that&#039;s Blanco the commenter is referring to.

Where&#039;s all your venom now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a commenter on<br />
<a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/09/27/seeing-the-forest-for-the-flood/" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/09/27/seeing-the-forest-for-the-flood/</a><br />
<i>â€œAs she tried to extort money from the feds while denying their assistance/troops/evacuation controlâ€¦â€¦.she was also starving and dehydrating her people in the dome and convention center.â€</i></p>
<p>For all you puppet headed mushbrains here seeking &#8220;social justice&#8221; that&#8217;s Blanco the commenter is referring to.</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s all your venom now?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=151518', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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