Rove Returns: CIA Leaker Now Leading Campaign to Blame Local Officials for Katrina Aftermath
Rove Returns: CIA Leaker Now Leading Campaign to Blame Local Officials for Katrina Aftermath
Scott McClellan, 9/1/05:
As I have indicated, this is not a time for politics. This is a time for the nation to come together for those in the Gulf Coast region and that’s where our focus is. This is not a time for finger-pointing or politics. And I think the last thing that the people who have been displaced or the people who have been affected need is people seeking partisan gain in Washington.
This morning’s New York Times:
Under the command of President Bush’s two senior political advisers, the White House rolled out a plan this weekend to contain the political damage from the administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina.
It orchestrated visits by cabinet members to the region, leading up to an extraordinary return visit by Mr. Bush planned for Monday, … and sought to move the blame for the slow response to Louisiana state officials, according to Republicans familiar with the White House plan.
The effort is being directed by Mr. Bush’s chief political adviser, Karl Rove, and his communications director, Dan Bartlett. … In many ways, the unfolding public relations campaign reflects the style Mr. Rove has brought to the political campaigns he has run for Mr. Bush.
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Smear campaign against anyone who criticized the President about his vacation in 5..4..3..2..
September 5th, 2005 at 3:21 amConsidering that most of these people needed to be evacuated to Texas (another state), blaming a local or even state official is a swiftboat smear of the uttermost immorality. These slugs are beyond human decency!
September 5th, 2005 at 3:24 amAnd we thought he (KKKarl) was worried about being jailed for outing a CIA agent…. goes to show you
KKKARL IS A COMPANY MAN ALL THE WAY…..to the bottom.
September 5th, 2005 at 4:47 amHAVE YOU NO SHAME KKKARL ROVE??? (Okay, I’m living in the 1950’s)
This piece of filth makes me ill. He is all about the spin and not SO TOTALLY NOT ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG.
Save dear leader at all costs…..Your ship is sinking.
I suspect dumbya and the entire company will be due an EXTENDED VACATION IN THE TROPICS…..(LOOSELY QUOTING CRASH CART CHEENEY… the world’s only living heart donor)
September 5th, 2005 at 4:50 amHell, even Hitler had the balls to shoot himself when ALL WAS LOST…..
We are so cursed that this boy-idiot can not have even the worth of Hitler.
But in my heart, I feel that he will finally do the United States and the entire planet a favor and off himself. After all he has done so much injustice and evil to the world that he owes it to us to off himself.
September 5th, 2005 at 4:56 amRove is a pig. A cretin.
September 5th, 2005 at 6:56 amI bet the Red Team is a little upset that Louisiana does not have all the advantages that Iraq has. See, Iraq is pleasantly way over there. We hear stories about how the military has varying amounts of influence on what information makes its way across the pond to us. Even if they aren’t censoring word for word, there are certainly places where the press is not allowed to visit, and the understanding that if they stray too far from their “safe” locations that they are taking their life into their own hands, and I doubt the press really has even the option to charter their own helicopters or whatever else to really do a lot of exploring on their own. While there are certainly locals there posting photos and personal accounts of what they see happening around them, its tiny compared to what is and will continue to be happening here, not to mention the additional credibility given to eyewitnesses here. The MSM might not give a rats ass what some displaced Iraqi citizen thinks about the arrogant twit thats supposedly reconstructing their country, but get a few stories about local sheriffs needing to post armed guards to keep FEMA (aren’t they supposed to be on our side?) from cutting off communication or blocking humanitarian aid, and shit is going to hit the fan. I guess the Red Team thinks they can play the Darfur game and just pretend this isn’t actually a miserable failure. But guess what, the media is already there. They made it in a couple days before the clowns that are supposed to prepare for and respond to an emergency like this in the first place. I’m not even being briefed by people that are “in the know” but apparently I knew refugees were in the convention center a whole day before the clown posse figured maybe they should set down the golf clubs and pop on by the ol’ Oval Office for a change. We’re not hearing these stories from some questionable source oversees, we’re hearing them from our friends, and our neighbors, and our family. And we fucking care about them. You thought it’d be fun to go bomb the shit out of Iraq based on lies. Thats stupid, and its a waste of money, and you’re dragging our name through the mud. I’m not happy about that. But when you turn your back on our own people, to isolate our friends, deny aid to them, and then open fire on our families, you have really crossed the line. I always knew your “culture of life” was nothing but lip service. Now, Mr. President, I know you are well versed in what the word “sovereign” means, but have you ever heard of the word “treason“? The internets are complicated, I know, so here it is:
1. Violation of allegiance toward one’s country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one’s country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.
If only there was a third definition, I know how you love them trifectas. Its interesting, and frightening, to see how you repay a Red State for voting for your sorry ass. I suppose there is some sense in that, the people you’re happy to watch drown and starve down there probably didn’t vote for you. And those who survived will remember that they are less important to you than cake and golf and tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy, and that it was declared open season on them. That can’t be good.
You must be relieved to know that we’ve pretty much got the market cornered on arrogance, wingnuts, and megalomaniacs. Otherwise, there might be someone with your competence level that decides it’d be fun to install an Islamic Theocracy here, but if they are as qualified as you are, we could end up with a Democracy after all.
September 5th, 2005 at 6:58 amWith the Bushies, EVERYTHING is politics. They have taken spin and propaganda to levels even Goebbels couldn’t reach (Goebbels didn’t have cable news right…)
I want my country back.
September 5th, 2005 at 7:19 amA quick response to shred KR’s argumentis essential. The MSM finally woke up last week and actually questioned and criticized the Bush White House’s inaction. Let’s hope that they are quick to respond to this Swift Boating. They’re trying to reframe this tragedy to suit their political deeds. We need to continue to hold Congress and the Busheviks responsible for their inactions and hostility toward goernment working for the common good (i.e. disaster response.) Let’s not let them hide behind propaganda and their right-wing shills on radio and tv. Get active and phone in your comments wherever you can - radio, tv. Write a letter to the editor, talk to your freinds, neighbors, etc. Get the word out as to who’s really responsible for the relief effort. Too many people are suffering and dying.
September 5th, 2005 at 7:49 amOn August 29, I assumed, wrongly, that Bush and Rove would take huge advantage of the hurricane as a convenient little diversion from other less heroic issues like the failures in Iraq and the Bush social security privatization fiasco. Bush’s nickname for Karl Rove is “Turd Blossom.” Presumably, Bush thinks that Rove can make even a turd blossom, even though this Rove nickname might not reflect well on George Bush himself. Regardless of this Rove reputation, in the case of Katrina, Rove has failed Bush utterly and the turds remain, simply, turds.
The bloom is finally off the rose, and I think this time, Rove and Bush have blown it big time. Everything Bush now does appears to the American people as too little, too late, calculated and contrived.
Between Katrina and Iraq, Bush’s legacy is in the toilet.
September 5th, 2005 at 7:52 amMeanwhile David Brooks is on his own crusade to gain conservative advantage.
Saying that people are seeing the institution of government failing them — he implies that it is “government” and “institutions” that are failing us, with the natural implication to downsize it.
The reality it is the President, his cabinet, the GOP Senate and House that have failed us. The government does not really exist nor act, it is the people we elect who act or don’t, their fault, and our fault for electing them.
September 5th, 2005 at 8:00 amBush just nominated Roberts as Chief Justice.
CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE AND KATRINA?
http://noquarter.typepad.com/ my_weblog/ 2005/ 09/ criminal_neglig.html
September 5th, 2005 at 8:06 am*sad*
I cannot even begin to express how ugly I feel inside when I remember my years of service in the military, and how this is the world I served!
I gave.
They took.
They’re still taking
*ill*
Someone want to loan me a sniper rifle?!
September 5th, 2005 at 9:06 amKarl Rove meets every Wed with Paul Weyrich. Paul was just quoted in the Washington Post that he is a very close friend of Tom Delay, and of course George W. Bush.
Here is something I posted a few weeks ago. It is the handbook of the right-wing leadership. Paul Weyrich’s institution uses this as their guiding priniciple.
You want to know what happened to FEMA this their plan for American institutions, and FEMA is an American institution. You think it is by accident that Bush destroyed the effectiveness of FEMA. Read and believe:
http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15483
*The Integration of Theory and Practice:
A Program for the New Traditionalist Movement*
by Eric Heubeck
“Our movement will be entirely destructive, and entirely constructive. We will not try to reform the existing institutions. We only intend to weaken them, and eventually destroy them. We will endeavor to knock our opponents off-balance and unsettle them at every opportunity. All of our constructive energies will be dedicated to the creation of our own institutions.â€
10,000 dead? What price do we need to pay to stop these criminals?
When will the MSM stop blindly accepting off the record statements from these criminals? Have the guts to finger these feaks?
September 5th, 2005 at 9:14 amWell I’ve done my emailing to Congress already this morning.
September 5th, 2005 at 9:30 amNow I’m going to drive around putting more “BUSH FAILED” signs on power poles for everyone to see tuesday morning on their way to work.
Words fail me!!!!!!!!!
September 5th, 2005 at 9:31 amRove and Weyrich may be the brain trust but if Bush was a real leader he would refuse the smear and take responsibility. He is only a weak spineless animal. The real blame is Brown and Chertoff and ultimately Bush since he picked these individuals. The smear tactic may backfire when the body count starts after the water is drained.
I think that Mayor Ray Nagin has been fearless in his leadership and critique of the feds. I hope he has a future in the democratic party advances.
September 5th, 2005 at 9:35 amThe only ones who appear surprised by this must be Dean, Pelosi and Kennedy, who are no where to be found. Must be in a back room somewhere, still trying to figure a way to stop Boulton.
September 5th, 2005 at 9:44 amHow about the theme that Bush couldn’t do anything because the local officails didn’t request help right away.
Bush: Gee Karl look at all those people dying down there in that stadium.
Karl: Yep
Bush: They don’t have any food or water, they’re being raped, and they’re living in poo, Dang.
Karl: Yep
Bush: I wish somebody from down ther would give me a call, so I could help.
Karl: Yep
Bush: Hey Laura, did anybody call?
Laura: Nope
Bush: Dang, hey Karl you wanna play another game of Hungry Hippo and share a juicebox?
September 5th, 2005 at 9:45 amRove? Get a rope.
September 5th, 2005 at 9:55 amAs went New Orleans, so goes the nation. Bush’s ideology demands he destroy the nation in order to save it for the “elect and the sanctified.” If you are not one of his cronies, that means you, your family, your community, who may have to depend on Federal Agencies such as FEMA, which his budget cuts gutted to feed the rich via his tax cuts, and to further feed them (as investors in the firms that benefit from his ill-advised invasion of Iraq, well good friends, that help will not be coming, and they ‘ll run a smear campaign against our local officials to save their necks and distract attention from their ideological contempt for the Republic….hmm, republic means “Public Works.” Guess they’ll have to change their name to Rethuglicans…good idea…any time they talk about the “Democrat Part,” just talk about the Rethugs!
Eat the rich, help the poor, impeach bush and frog march KKKarl!
September 5th, 2005 at 9:58 amWhen I caught a glimpse of Rove in the background as Bush made his tour on Friday of the Potemkin village of rescue efforts set up for his arrival, I knew that my worst suspicions of this depraved and malevolent administration were correct. Over the weekend, I saw many government officials defending themselves and their peers, reassuring the public that the situation was improving and rescue efforts were “making progress.” I heard them assert that this is not the time to blame but the time to act — then they would proceed to blame the local officials, and even the victims themselves. This is the hallmark of Karl Rove strategy — deny and deflect criticism, amass an army of toadies to spread the “right” message, put the boy-king on stage in front of the props, and present the pre-screened before the cameras with him.
September 5th, 2005 at 10:04 amThis is making me physically sick.
#14, we ALL need to Email Congress, Brian. Thanks for doing your part. We ALL must do what we can to oust this cretin in the White House before any more suffer at his criminally negligent hands.
September 5th, 2005 at 10:06 amIt is with a sad heart that I and my fellow Africans look upon this tragedy unfolding before us. It is sad that it has taken an event of this magnitude to finally convince the remaining American public of the ineffectiveness of one mans position.
Could you explain how Bill Clinton could be impeached for having a side line fling and not wanting to admit it, while G.W can categorically lie on numerous occasions, cause border line voter fraud, start an illegal war, award massive ‘no-tender’ contracts to cronies, ignore a democratic constituency on its knees after the biggest natural disaster in American history, …… AND NOT BE IMPEACHED
I beg for understanding…..
September 5th, 2005 at 10:07 amBoth the Washington Post and Newsweek were lied to by a “Bush Administration Official” who told them that Louisiana Gov. Blanco had never declared a state of emergency when in fact she had done so on Aug. 26.
As a service to their readers, shouldn’t the Post and Newsweek identify this liar?
September 5th, 2005 at 10:10 amI just don’t get it, Bush hasn’t done one thing right sense he took office. Show me one appointment he has made that has done the country any good. Show me one descion he has made that has been good for the country. I know it’s the voter fault for putting in office and electing a congress that made him a one man rule. But isn’t there something that can be done to correct the error? The snipper that needs a gun, I got one to give him and he can keep it. Retired Vet I know how you feel, 20 years down the drain.
September 5th, 2005 at 10:12 amrove has been the pukes dirty tricks man since he first appeared on the scene.
Anyone hiring or using him knew exactly what they were getting. A person with no morals, no shame, a lying turd blossom.
bush knew years ago that he had many obstacles to overcome and who best to lie him out of everything - karl rove.
both bush and rove are now, and always have been, admirers of Adolph Hitler. This has all been laid out in books and newspapers for yeaars, but people still voted for the motherless asshole, the eldest son of a sysfunctional fasmily.
All one can do is scream, yell, and regret.
September 5th, 2005 at 10:15 amI love to hear that kind of talk, and we all know how you feel, but a general strike and a march on state capitals and D.C. is really a better way to go. The very best thing would be getting the troops out of Iraq and having them occupy the White House lawn until morale improves. In the mean time, check out this cool cat and the tag line at this blog:
“This is the Voice of Moderation. I wouldn’t go so far as to say we’ve actually SEIZED the radio station . . . ”
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/
September 5th, 2005 at 10:20 amI am very suspicious of an e-mail that just showed up in my hotmail account. The e-mail address is:
Butter3296@aol.com
and the first line is: “this is our story that we e-mailed everywhere.”
It goes on to describe a middle aged white couple stranded in New Orleans for days with drawn out angst, and puts the blame on the mayor & governor, saying the local police were no help and that the governor didn’t call for aid which is why supplies weren’t coming in.
I clicked reply to this e-mail and asked the e-mailer to identify herself.
Can anyone more tech savy that me check this out somehow?
Mary
September 5th, 2005 at 10:21 amObviously it’s the fault of those wretched New Orleanians: they had the gall and temerity to DWB! (drown while black)
the preceeding comment is sarcastic and is made to ridicule the Bushies whom this author beleives are evil
September 5th, 2005 at 10:29 amOkay, here’s the problem:
September 5th, 2005 at 10:36 amI’ve had it up to here (we’re talking attic level) with George Bush and his pals.
I regularly advocate a violent response. I’m talking French Revolution violence which I am convinced is the ONLY way to get these pirates off their perches. And I’m not suggesting prison terms either.
BUT, I know this is just emulation their tactics. I much prefer Cindy Sheehan’s approach.
BUT when my wife and went to Crawford this past August we made the mistake of going on “Redneck Day”. Crawford (and the bend of the dirt road near the second camp) was awash in drunken Bush supporters. They were violent, rowdy and kept trying to push past the cops to “argue” with the citizens of the camp. The police — probably ten to twelve of them — made it obvious they were protecting the second camp from Bush’s supporters.
As I watched this mess unfold from the “Camp Two” side I couldn’t help but think to myself “How the hell is some drunken asshole in a cowboy hat going sit down and listen to reason?”
These Bushites didn’t look they would have much respect for Ghandiesque protests. They looked like they’d love nothing more than to come in and bust some heads.
My final impression? “Jesus, there’s no stopping these clowns… except with guns.”
Hence my problem: what do we do? Sit back and wait to be trashed or fight the way they’d fight us. Political ballets won’t save us. My question: What will?
What does the White House not understand about the Homeland Security statement in their own website stating:
Preparing America
In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility on March 1st for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort. Â The new Department will also prioritize the important issue of citizen preparedness. Educating America’s families on how best to prepare their homes for a disaster and tips for citizens on how to respond in a crisis will be given special attention at DHS.
from http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/theme_home2.jsp
Governor Blanco also made request to President for Disaster Releif on 8/28/2005 and was not only on the Governors web site that day and sent to the Office of Homeland Security.
September 5th, 2005 at 10:38 amOkay, here’s the problem:
September 5th, 2005 at 10:40 amI’ve had it up to here (we’re talking attic level) with George Bush and his pals.
I regularly advocate a violent response. I’m talking French Revolution violence which I am convinced is the ONLY way to get these pirates off their perches. And I’m not suggesting prison terms either.
BUT, I know this is just emulation their tactics. I much prefer Cindy Sheehan’s approach.
BUT when my wife and went to Crawford this past August we made the mistake of going on “Redneck Day”. “Camp Two” was awash in drunken Bush supporters. They were violent, rowdy and kept trying to push past the cops to “argue” with the citizens of the camp. The police — probably ten to twelve of them — made it obvious they were protecting the second camp from Bush’s supporters.
As I watched this mess unfold from the “Camp Two” side I couldn’t help but think to myself “How the hell is some drunken asshole in a cowboy hat going sit down and listen to reason?”
These Bushites didn’t look they would have much respect for Ghandiesque protests. They looked like they’d love nothing more than to come in and bust some heads.
My final impression? “Jesus, there’s no stopping these clowns… except with guns.”
Hence my problem: what do we do? Sit back and wait to be trashed or fight the way they’d fight us. Political ballets won’t save us. My question: What will?
#27 that is a disgusting message — Butter might be KKK, or Neo-Nazi, or just a dumb and blind Republican racist.
September 5th, 2005 at 10:54 amI emailed “BUTTER”.
September 5th, 2005 at 10:59 amIt would be nice if it could be traced back to Rove’s PC.
I have a hard time believing it’s legit since I don’t know who “butter” is and no one forwarded it. No connection to me at all.
I forwarded the e-mail to thinkprogress. Perhaps they can track it down.
September 5th, 2005 at 11:05 amMary
I get email from folks with agendas because I post my email address on other sites.
September 5th, 2005 at 11:09 amI got an email from Landrieu ONLY because of this.
Pat Robertson and his Chistian Assasination Network are selective rationalists, defying all the obvious signs that God is feeling wrathful against America right now. Robertson claims to pray hurricanes away from his CBN broadcast facility. Last week he calls for a murder in South America and BAM!, Katrina lays waste OUR Gulf Coast….from the direction of…hmmm…Venezuela. Hey Robertson….HERE’S YER SIGN!
Maybe God idn’t happy wi’chew.
Weather forecasts in the Carribean indicate God’s loading another one in the chamber.
September 5th, 2005 at 11:40 amDude, shut up.
Next fundraiser everyone send CBN a roll of duct tape. It won’t be for the winders, it’ll be for Robertson’s blathering maw.
See Republican values on display this week as the White House and the GOP Congress push for repeal of the estate tax.
For the details on this abomination, see:
“The Choice: Estate Tax or Dynasty Dividend?”
September 5th, 2005 at 11:44 amWhat to do?
Every citizen in every city in America should be encouraged to step up and get into a grand jury.
Investigate every Republican Congressmen (any criminal Dems too), Bush appointee, and Federal official of his administration for criminal activities. Indict and convict all that are responsible for the commission of any crimes, and incompetence that has lead to deaths or injures to any one.
Impeaching Bush is not going to happen. But you can put First, Bush, Delay, Hatch, Cheney, Rove, Rummy, and all the other criminals into prison. You can do it very quickly. Hell investigate the damn Supreme Court Judges that put this incompetent fool in the Presidence. How about getting the damn right-wing funders and the mouth pieces that have lied and expounded hate against the rest of America.
That is taking back our country from the tugs.
I am mad as HELL and I am not going to take it any more!
September 5th, 2005 at 11:52 amI see that the ‘holier than thou’ so-called ‘liberals’ here have donned their Holy Cloaks again today.
Where do I worship you? I know: in hell.
See you all their.
George Bush’s ‘book of faults’ is now full and you can redeem them at a local redemption center.
Redeeming qualities of the so-called ‘liberals’ here? Answer: None.
Let your hearts bleed.
Thumbs down for George Bush. Feed him to a Florida panther and let the Louisiana alligators feed on his offal.
Stupid, drunken modern day ‘Romans,’ each and every one of you.
September 5th, 2005 at 11:55 amI think Katrina is the breaking point for both sides of the political debate. Liberals are clearly louder, but according to an ABC poll, it’s just an echo chamber. I think Russert’s Meet the Press performance animated the right and showed us once again how much the liberal MSM hates Bush.
This event will divide along ideological lines and ultimately help Republicans. I fully support an invesitgation because it is clear that the New Orleans mayor and Gov. Blanco really screwed up. Liberals will cry smear, but after five long years of smearing Bush and his entire administration NO ONE is listening.
September 5th, 2005 at 12:07 pmIt just further exposes the greed-driven, bigoted right wing for what they are. That anyone can continue to support these criminals is beyond me.
Oh, and my I congratulate all of you for resisting the urge to respond to the profe$$ional detractors that Karl Rove has engaged and unleashed on the web to visit sites like these and pick fights.
Fly away, little trolls. . . .fly away.
September 5th, 2005 at 12:12 pm#41 - excuse me, but I think you are the bigot. You throw at invective at the other side and accuse them of bigotry. Very sad. I pity you.
September 5th, 2005 at 12:14 pmHow much has he paid you, marblex, for posing as a concerned liberal?
September 5th, 2005 at 12:16 pmIf this event (Hurricane Katrina) doesn’t wake people up to the fact that right wing conservatives are evil people trying to destroy America (See the WEyrich quote) and view Americans as 280 million tools meant to be robbed from so that 3-5 million can live like kings in castles, then people are hopeless.
You are either a right wing conservative or a human being. There’s no gray here.
September 5th, 2005 at 12:23 pmI don’t think Karl Rove will kill himself unless his obvious eating disorder does him in. People either implode or explode. Karl’s rage is very much directed outwardly. We’ll all outllive him, though, right?
September 5th, 2005 at 12:23 pmAnyone else find it odd that rover was in the nixon administration? and dumya’s dad was in the CIA since the 50’s? and these same names roberts, bolton, rove shrub keep surfacing (iran contra)(election fraud)(iraq war)(iraq war)?
September 5th, 2005 at 12:56 pmHow can no one be listening, Mr. Souter when, as the truth is coming out, Mr. Bush’s approval rates are slipping, slipping, slipping…
I would have thought Iraq was enough for America to wake up. I thought it couldn’t get any worse. Katrina proved me wrong. And bigoted though some here may be, getting rid of Mr. Bush is the best thing for America it seems to me. I heard Mr. Christopher Hitchens from out of Mr. Bush’s amen corner refer to the US in its response to the hurricane as a “banana republic” and Mr. Bush’s comments as “idiotic”. even the neo-cons are stirring. Mr. Souter, help save whatever face America still has and help impeach him.
September 5th, 2005 at 12:57 pm#5, #19 - Right on!!!
If they had any ethics, if they cared even a little for the citizens of this country, if they thought any of this mattered, they would resign. Sadly, BushCo and Queen Rove are too in love with power and money. The longer they stick around, the more of both they get.
It is time for progressives and like minded conservatives who love this country to resist BushCo en mass. We can choose the approach of Gandhi and Martin Luther King. Or we can choose the path taken by the Algerians against French occupation. Which will it be? How soon can we make a visible difference?
September 5th, 2005 at 1:00 pmWhat heightened the tragedies in New Orleans and Mississippi clearly was a failure to communicate. The rescue and recovery was contingent on the Bush administration acting immediately, but no one knew what to do, so they sat on their asses for two days looking at each other. Meanwhile, people in New Orleans lie waterlogged and trapped in 6 feet of water in their homes and Mississippians had to search through Dumpsters for food. No one can deny that the Bush bureaucracy of getting approval from the highest levels made this disaster much worse. Nobody wanted to take the reins. We could march to Baghdad in 30 days but we can’t clear out houses full of dying people because there’s six feet of water. This was the most pathetic response to a disaster that I’ve ever seen. Clinton faced natural disasters and he had a FEMA director who knew what to do. Bush hires a fired Arabian horse administrator to handle emergency management, and where’s that newly created Department of Homeland Security? The terrorists are laughing at the lack of response from the world’s last Superpower. And one more thing, if you’re going to blame Gov. Blanco, then blame Haley Barbour too. The fact is that the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina takes a federal recovery, even in state’s rights states like Louisiana and Mississippi. Both red states, that after this debacle, should wake up and kick all of their Republican “leaders” out.
September 5th, 2005 at 1:03 pmThe puppet masters have the game figured out. George Bush is not going to be impeached. George Bush is not going to resign. The Republicans will remain in control.
It foments divisiveness and rancor amongst the population.
It is a tool and you are being suckered into it, hook, line and sinker. Like a fighter who dodges the right and falls for the left hook… everytime.
No gray area there. It is in black and white.
The barbarians are inside the gates.
The puppet masters know the game plan is working.
So-called ‘Republicans’ are not human. So-called ‘liberals’ are.
A ‘French Revolution,’ groovy indeed. The sociologists of France during the French Revolution conducted studies on those whose heads rolled to determine how long the severed head remained sentient after being disembodied. NASA has had those studies for more than three decades.
The American Revolution was a tamed duck compared to the French Revolution.
The second American Revolution may not be so ‘civil’ if every American citizen gets brainwashed into thinking that ‘heads must roll’ and ‘there is blood in the streets.’
Don’t fall for the puppet master game plan.
Peace
September 5th, 2005 at 1:11 pmI misread who posted #49 and thought that Ron had turned over a new leaf. I’m sorry, it was stupid of me wasn’t it…
September 5th, 2005 at 1:13 pmBut I am curious to know, Ron, how long human heads remain sentient after they have been severed. Sorry to go off-topic, and not that I don’t appreciate your imput. Diversity is a good thing. But certainly not when it kills people as I’m sure Mr. Bush’s designs are as diverse and far-removed from that of the American public’s as is possible within what we still call a democracy.
September 5th, 2005 at 1:18 pmOh yeah, I forgot, the French government used the Guillotine up until 1977. Real humans over there in France, dontcha think?
September 5th, 2005 at 1:36 pmUnlike Bush’s friends in Saudi Arabia, right Ron?
September 5th, 2005 at 1:41 pmHere’s my theory:
The hurricane hit and all the Bushevik insiders instantly knew that they had to use this opportunity to advance their agenda once again, which is the only thing they care about.
But King Cheney was away in Wyoming and the rest of them were too psychopathic and stupid to figure out how to use the situation to best advantage. That’s why there was a federal delay.
Meanwhile on the ground, the whole system was filthy with bigoty and nepotism. Basically the first responders come from a culture of racism and denial, so they were all looking for the lily white rich folk to save while ignoring the sub-human blacks.
At all levels their first knee jerk assumption was that blacks killing blacks while blacks were being flushed down the toilet equals a beautiful and overdue thing.
I believe these are some of the mechanisms that caused so much delay. You can bet things would have been vastly different if a hurricane had hit the Hamptons.
September 5th, 2005 at 1:42 pmYes, Saudi money built the Clinton Presidential Library, too. Cool
September 5th, 2005 at 1:43 pmI wonder what will happen in this country when the Republicans steal another election. I can see civil war. The Democrats are powerless or disinclined to stop this march of the Republicans and fundamentalists toward total control of our society and it isn’t going to look like a democracy, and there wont be much freedom, and you are all going to be wearing little microchips implanted under your skin, and your cars will all have transponders to locate you at all times, and you will have internal passports and be required to piss in a bottle any time the the police request. The internet wont look like this it will be subscriber only and under government control. So, people, you better find your hearts and some courage.
September 5th, 2005 at 1:47 pmEveryone’s favorite right wing web site has the info on the Clinton Library.
September 5th, 2005 at 1:49 pmClinton Library linklink
September 5th, 2005 at 1:56 pmThe failure of the b-administration to rescue people inspite of foreseeable backlash and plunging polls suggests an agenda: exploit this situation to oust the people whose homes and property were destroyed, apply tightened bankruptcy law, and take over their land, then “develop” and make billions.
Bush himself was noted as saying that this area was going to look real good.
Good to whom?
No mind the heinous nature of the operation and hideous land grab. Abu Graib, etc. have demonstratated the shameless, needlessly abusive acts this group is capable of.
September 5th, 2005 at 2:01 pmMore conservative humor from Scrappleface:
“Fears increased today among hundreds of thousands of refugees from the hurricane-ravaged gulf coast as they faced a Labor Day weekend with little hope of an eloquent speech from President George Bush.
“As today’s New York Times editorial indicated, the president ‘gave one of the worst speeches of his life yesterday, especially given the level of national distress and the need for words of consolation and wisdom.’
“Instead, the president devoted his first major post-Katrina address to laying out what the federal government is actually doing to help with disaster recovery.
“One New Orleans man, currently living in the ‘Plaza End Zone’ section of the Superdome as he awaits news of his missing family members, said, ‘I can survive for some time with little water, no food and highly unsanitary conditions…but if I don’t hear some poetic words of comfort and stirring verbal imagery from the president pretty soon, I’m a goner.’
“A White House spokesman said additional speech writers have been flown in to accelerate completion of ‘a magnificent, almost-Clintonesque display of rhetorical compassion.’ However, it could take up to a week of pronunciation rehearsal before the president is ready to deliver the speech to the nation.”
September 5th, 2005 at 2:01 pmThis is my email reply from “DAWN-Butter3296@aol.com”
“Yes, please pass on our story to every/anyone. I’lve been on posts everywhere on the internet talking about Senator Landrieu, the Governor, and Delta airlines. So I guess that is how come I e-mailed you. I e-mailed anyone that had an e-mail posted.”
Thanks-
Dawn
Seems flood victoms got lots of time to search blogs lookin’ fer friends.
September 5th, 2005 at 2:04 pm#56-58 - troll: your lies are irrelevant to the main point here. Your attempts to distract don’t work, you know why? Because we progressives, unlike right-wingers, can hold more than one idea in our head at a time.
September 5th, 2005 at 2:05 pmAnd here’s more from our friends at Scrappleface:
“The AFL-CIO today slammed President George Bush for working on Labor Day, thus denigrating the sanctity of a holiday which celebrates the contribution of labor unions to the greatness of the United States.
” ‘Bush is no better than a scab, crossing a strike line to undercut the power of a work stoppage,’ said John Sweeney, president of the American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO). ‘By announcing today that John Roberts will replace Chief Justice William Rehnquist, Bush is making those of us who are resting look lazy, even though it’s legal for us to be drinking beer and goofing off today.’
“The AFL-CIO confirmed that Mr. Sweeney will be paid ‘triple overtime’ for preparing and presenting today’s remarks, since union rules protect him from having to attack the president on weekends or national holidays.”
September 5th, 2005 at 2:05 pmBetter if bush finishes his term. That will make him the last republican president for two generations minimum.
September 5th, 2005 at 2:05 pm#63: That was typical rhetorica hyperbole we are all accustomed to from the unions. Bush working? Impossible.
September 5th, 2005 at 2:07 pmThe Forrest Gump Wannabee is at it again!
http://www.storytimedolls.net/mmff.html
September 5th, 2005 at 2:11 pmIf you americans want political change then don’t worry about changing the attitude of the electorate because you already elected democrats in 2000 and 2004. The majority of people already know that the Repugs are scum.
The only place where meaningful change can be made is in repairing the election machinery that allows the right wing to elect anyone they want through fraud.
If you want to get active then fix the elections before Bushco fixes them again.
September 5th, 2005 at 2:25 pmFire Rove before Brown and Chertoff. Not bloody likely, but still a good idea.
For a listing of things a competent administration might have done, see http://www.hairytruth.blogspot.com
September 5th, 2005 at 2:29 pmRe: post #61: Thanks, Brian…I e-mailed “butter” earlier asking who this person was and haven’t had a reply. And I don’t have my e-mail address posted anywhere online. I do get e-mailed occasionally from Christie Whitman’s group because I e-mailed it once asking how anyone could still vote Republican after the current bunch got a hold of the party. Maybe that’s how my addressed got what I would call spammed.
Mary
September 5th, 2005 at 2:34 pmSometimes the truth is starnger - and funnier - than fiction, as in this report from Agence France-Presse:
“Efforts by Hollywood actor Sean Penn to aid New Orleans victims stranded by Hurricane Katrina foundered badly yesterday, when the boat he was piloting to launch a rescue attempt sprang a leak.
“Penn had planned to rescue children waylaid by Katrina’s flood waters, but apparently forgot to plug a hole in the bottom of the vessel, which began taking water within seconds of its launch. …
“When the boat’s motor failed to start, those aboard were forced to use paddles to propel themselves down the flooded New Orleans street.”
September 5th, 2005 at 2:37 pmOk…Scott, when IS the time to point fingers?..until then can we put a MARKER on Karl’s forehead???
September 5th, 2005 at 3:06 pmI wonder which Nazi spirit Rove is obviously reincarnated from. Or, maybe (judging by how old he is) perhaps he’s the Son of Goebbels.
September 5th, 2005 at 3:07 pmYou have to admire Bush’s efficiency. Only two weeks on the job, and already he’s into his second term.
September 5th, 2005 at 3:20 pmHay Jim #12, response from the old woman ready to march on D.C or travel the highways of emails to all governors and representatives to get off their a***s and do their over paid jobs. I have a good 30-30 rifle and 200 rounds I’ll loan you. No kidding. Will not let you borrow my little 357 though cause I want it for up close and personal when the Bush bunch come after me. Will supply you with water and food I have stored. Again not kidding. I’m going to be marching unarmed,Gandi and King are my heroes except in self defence. all my family is gone so I have nothing to loose. Don’t care if they take me out but will go down screaming and fighting all the way. My gun instructor made a good comment to me years ago.” Bad guy’s need to fear a woman like you more than anything else, hormones, PMS, passion and rage along with nothing else to loose are the most powerful elements of all.” Does this resemble any other group of people in the present or past. You bet it does. Hello America and Iraq, i’m here. This bunch of heartless basterds have stabed us all in the heart. I want them all in prison or worse. Now.
September 5th, 2005 at 3:23 pmOkay, Ron, so this tragedy is really all about the Clinton library. No wonder you Republican jerk-offs can’t run the country worth a damn.
September 5th, 2005 at 3:24 pmIn case you haven’t noticed, wisedup, it is STILL not the time for finger-pointing regarding 9/11, four years later, or Iraq… unless the finger is pointed at Clinton of course.
There will never be a time to take responsibility as far as the Republicans are concerned.
September 5th, 2005 at 3:25 pmI live in the poorer district of Baton Rouge, and I hear the helicopters coming and going from New Orleans. My only concern is why I wasn’t hearing them on Monday night instead of Wednesday. Relatives of mine from New Orleans stood in line from 3 p.m. on Saturday until Midnight trying to get emergency food stamps. She said women stood there with their babies in the hot sun, with no water or food. But what else are they to do? They don’t have anything. More of my relatives are going today to stand in line. Our grocery stores are empty. There is no meat or eggs or canned goods. How can our government let this happen to us? We’re poor so I guess we don’t exist.
September 5th, 2005 at 3:41 pmRon and the other trolls are desperate for something to say to distract us from this ongoing castigation of Bush - so what do they do — why, what do they usually do? Start talking about Clinton and make up a few lies about anything with the Clinton name attached to it! Trolls are so transparent in their blind hatred of Clinton that even five yers after he’s out of office, they still harp on it — and they say we hate Bush!
September 5th, 2005 at 4:05 pmBeth, you hit the nail on the head. See, if you lived in a swing state, and it was an even-numbered year, help would have arrived before the storm even hit. But sadly, in these odd-numbered years, the only people getting any attention from the War Profiteer In Chief are billionaires and their lobbyists. How is it that prostitution and bribery are illegal, but politicians and lobbyists aren’t?
September 5th, 2005 at 4:20 pmScott, #79 thanks for the article to back up your point. An interesting read that “Whisky Bar” put together.
September 5th, 2005 at 4:30 pmOkay, this is our favorite fat rat’s (good ‘ol Karl) M.O., The administration tells all kinds of lies, then spins the lies until,in the words of Emperior “three quarts low” Dumbya, “we can catapult the propaganda”
This game was played to launch a disasterous war these wanabe little Caesars (Julius, and Augustus they ain’t, in fact, the whole bunch of them woudn’t have made a pimple on the buttocks of either one) started in Iraq, which had nothing to do with Al Qaeda. Hey, not a problem! Get the DICK Cheney and his henchmen to raise a lot of hell at the CIA, until “they” got the intelligence they liked, WMD’s, mushroom clouds, blah, blah,blah, not what the facts were. Here they play the double-cross, if everything went wrong,( hey, not a problem!) blame the CIA…which is exacty what they did. We were spun this shit until our ears were ready to fall off! And if I was an intelligence officer, I think I’d be highy pissed.
The point is this, they’re using the same plan book about the disaster in our Southern Gulf States. For years, officals, both state and federal, said that billions needed to be spend to shore up the levees in New Orleans, and work needed to be done in the intercostal waterway to protect MS. and AL. Hugh tax cuts for the rich, and the draining of the treasury to finance reckless empire abroad, killed any serious funding for these projects, it was laughable, a pittance, a piss poor amount of money that they alloted! Add in the fact that a substandual number of National Guard troops from these states are in Iraq. The perfect storm, Kitrena itself, not enough money (by choice, just like the war) and not enough First Responders on the ground. Emperior “not firing on all pistions” Dumbya, Karl, and the rest of this gang KNEW THIS (Hey! not a problem!) just cynicaly do the same old double-cross, (just like they did at the CIA) AND BLAME THE STATE AND LOCIAL OFFICALS for the problem! But it ain’t gonna work, the lies, and the spinning of lies is all used up! Now our cornered rat,Karl, is gonna have to divert,distract, and try to divide the country, he’ll be working overtime on his rat exercise wheel, but ain’t gonna work. A cornered rat? A gutter rat is more like it, nah let’s go lower, how about a sewer rat?
September 5th, 2005 at 4:30 pm****IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING KATRINA****
After surfing the net for hours and pilfering others’ clever ideas for monikers, my DOG AND CAT have jointly issued the four decrees below. They’ve commanded me to proclaim these edicts to the human race via this blog. BY ORDER OF MY DOG AND CAT, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AND UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, ALL BLOGGERS ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE FOLLOWING:
1. KATRINA, NEW ORLEANS, FEMA
The city of New Orleans shall hereby be referred to as LAKE GEORGE. With a nod to Herbert Hoover, all Katrina relocation centers shall be referred to as BUSHVILLES. FEMA chief Michael Brown, an underachieving Republican crony whose main pre-BushCo career accomplishment involved getting fired from the International Arabian Horse Association, shall hereby be known as BRONCO BROWN, MISMASTER OF DISASTER. Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff will be known as MANIPULATIVE MIKE, MISMASTER OF DISASTER.
2. CHENEY AND RICE
Dick “Heart Attack” Cheney, the cyborg who supported the gross underfunding of New Orlean’s flood control efforts, and then refused to leave his Wyoming vacation once the deluge began, shall hereby be known as DICK BANS DIKE. In tribute to Condi Rice’s thousand-dollar shoe buying spree in New York City during the peak of the crisis, she will hereby be known as IMELDA RICE, STILETTO QUEEN, or NO SHOES, NO SERVICE, at your discretion.
3. BUSHIES
Reflecting a failed presidency and his colossal dereliction of duty this past week, the act of reflexively defending George W. Bush shall hereby be referred to as BUSH FLUFFING. Those who engage in same shall be deemed BUSH FLUFFERS. Should Bush hallucinate about “mandates” or “political capital,” these will be known as FLUFFY BUSH MOMENTS.
4. GOP AND TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH
Rather than focusing on Katrina relief, congressional Republicans will soon fixate on eliminating the Estate Tax, a levy paid only by the wealthiest 1% of estates last year. This GOP giveaway to the rich shall be referred to as THE PARIS HILTON TAX CUT.
I will promptly relay any forthcoming edicts issued by my pets. Failure to comply may result in your furniture being scratched or peed on. BUSH LIKES NICKNAMES, SO LET’S MAKE THESE STICK BY REPEATING THEM IN FUTURE POSTS! My dog and cat thank you.
September 5th, 2005 at 4:41 pmBob Nihilist et al
Keep posting and writing - keep talking and walking - the day will come when these fascists will be taken out by the people and dealt with - justice will be done on earth - it will happen as surely as the leaves fall in autumn - the fascists can’t stop themselves as they steal and loot and kill to fill their bellies - and like the changing of the seasons an ill wind will blow them to kingdom come
http://www.counterpunch.org/
September 5th, 2005 at 5:02 pmBush I and Bill Clinton are quite a dynamic duo in the fund-raising campaign the Red Cross and other charities.
So-called ‘Republicans’ or so-called ‘Democrats’, it doesn’t matter, they’re in cahoots with one another.
Wake up.
I have known true Republicans that would help an ill man down on his luck by giving a full months wages to him so he wouldn’t have to suffer mentally of how he could possibly make up his losses.
A true Republican that was a businessman that had customers that owed him money for over 50 years and he still remained friends with them. “Always do business with them,” he would tell me. “Just because they owe you money, doesn’t mean you should stop doing business with them,” is what he would advise me. I have done just that and I have a small fortune out there that I know will never be paid to me nor will I ever collect. I must move on and continue.
“Forgive us our tresspasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us”
“Forgive us our debts, as we also forgive our debtors”
You so-called ‘liberals’ know nothing about random acts of kindness. Know nothing about how to love your neighbor as thine own self. Something that is definitely tough to do.
All you so-called ‘liberals’ that have infested this site ‘point with pride and view with alarm’ and do nothing but complain about what is wrong with murka and murkans.
Democrats… Republicans… no difference… all members of the War Party occupying Warshington.
You are welcome to say anything you please. Ad hominem counts, too. It’s called free speech.
So-called ‘Republicans’ wanted to repeal the 22nd Amendment so their fearless leader could run for the presidency in 2008. Republicans introduced the legislation in Congress to have the legislation passed to have the 22nd Amendment passed for ratification. Hypocrites.
Plenty of hypocrites here, too. Judas Goats
September 5th, 2005 at 5:19 pmDaddy Bush on CNN defending his spawn. Gollom, Gollom. Go for the ring, now jump. Lies, Lies. The locals, police, local and state gov. officials did call well ahead for our Fed. Gov to do what they were suposto do. The locals all did their job’s and it got down to neighbor helping neighbor. This is a national disgrace against our poor and people of color…..Opra and Obama on scene now. That may be a good team for our white house. Not kidding here…Blessings
September 5th, 2005 at 5:31 pmMake no mistake. Bin Laden and friends are taking notes on Bush” inability to handle a crisis like Katrina. He is probably thinking now is a good time for a suitcase nuclear device. Or he knows that anytime that he wants to use one we will not be able to deal with it. It’s a goddam shame and I am sick of our dumb president. The wingnuts are confident that they can do about anything they choose to because they know they can fix any election at any time and stay in office. They don’t have to worry about pissing anyone off.
September 5th, 2005 at 5:53 pmBob
My mother forwarded this to me this morning. The worse it seems, the more disgusting it gets.
Subject: [Democracy_School_Discussion] Corporations and water for
September 5th, 2005 at 5:56 pm> Katrina victims
> >
> I was with a few friends from college yesterday, whom
> I hadn’t seen in many years, and one of them whose
> high level engineering contract work keeps him informed on this subject explained that the main reason why it took so long for water to get to New Orleans was the time it took for the government to take bids on water contracts from corporations. (This is my paraphrase of what he told me, and I’m not sure it’s completely accurate, but it’s “in the ballpark”)
>
> Supposedly our govt. didn’t want water to be sent directly to New Orleans right away, because the corporations wouldn’t have been paid off properly. CASH had to be dealt with, no water. Then a bidding system set up so the contractors with the best bid would be chosen, and then after the choice, they would receive CASH or a contract for CASH in the future, and then would purchase the water from water companies and arrange for deliveries.
>
> All this takes at least three days to happen, and of course it was more essential for this to happen so that the contracting corporations with the best bids would profit than that the people of New Orleans received water before they dehydrated and died. After all, corporate profit is much more important than the lives of people.
>
> This is capitalism, folks.
> Tracy
Oh! Disaster . . .
What can one do?
It can happen anywhere
To me, but mostly you!
Oh! But FEMA’s got some
Itty bitty tricks,
So you are unprepared
And we can get our kicks!
Funny floods and tornadoes!
Or a shit your undies ‘quake!
Don’t even try to be ready!
For it’s complete heartbreak!
Disaster unpreparadness
Is our responsibility!
And blaming you’s important
To our agency!
Children helping people
Is what we say!
FEMA’s like your blanky-
Soiled- each and every way!
Hey! When disaster strikes?
September 5th, 2005 at 5:59 pmWe’re just like you!
Prepared all the time
To shit our underoos!
Ethnic cleansing.
September 5th, 2005 at 5:59 pmIt is human nature to deflect blame. Very seldom does an individual, especially in a public context, ever stand up and admit that they were to blame for a disaster. In addition, it is almost normal to try to blame someone else for whatever went wrong. In this case the administration looks around and might say to itself, “Who else can we blame for this disaster?” The obvious target is local authorities, especially since they are Democrats. One should not be surprised by the direction of the attack, or the fact that there is an effort to blame somebody else. And when has this administration ever admitted doing anything wrong? Duh!
September 5th, 2005 at 6:02 pmI have seen the documentary “Unconstitutional†twice this week, and it is frightening. I urge all Americans to see this one-hour film about the Patriot Act, the undercover work of our government — they put Herbert Hoover to shame, Nixon looks like a piker in comparison.
September 5th, 2005 at 6:28 pmWe are going backward, folks — “1984″ is here.
That’s J. Edgar Hoover. Not Herbert, the president.
September 5th, 2005 at 6:29 pmJ Edgar was the creep who ran the FBI during the 60’s and 70’s.
you may want to read the sop (standard operating procedures) on responsibility, command, and control for new orleans, louisanna, fed. it may wake a few of you up.
September 5th, 2005 at 6:34 pmBarry
September 5th, 2005 at 7:01 pmWhere do I find it?
The demons at Faux News are having a poll on the handling of Katrina. You all know what to do…
September 5th, 2005 at 7:03 pmhttp://www.foxnews.com/ story/ 0,2933,168286,00.html#poll
They sure didn’t waste any time awarding Haliburton a contract to clean up 3 naval installations in Mississippi and New Orleans. This administration has just got to go!
September 5th, 2005 at 7:16 pmI live in Baton Rouge, LA and have seen and talked to many people who are just absolutely pissed off!
And not a single word from Dickhead Cheney! Just another piece of shit in what is seemingly long line of ‘turd blossoms’.
metal mike must live in a box with a buch of cats… nothing like that going on around here..
September 5th, 2005 at 7:18 pmHmmmm… “in a box with a buch of cats”. What the hell does that mean? What is “buch”? Where is around here, Barry? My house was without electricity for 5 days so we were out and about trying to help out any way we could. What were you doing Barry?
September 5th, 2005 at 7:27 pmThin skin are we? here is baton rouge. and i’m so sorry you had to wait 5 days for electricity, you must have been really put out, it really is right to have electricity. so sorry you were inconvecied. where you talking to these people?
September 5th, 2005 at 7:34 pmIs Barry trying to make a point here?
September 5th, 2005 at 7:45 pmNo just responding to rubber mike who obviously hasnt been into baton rouge in the past week, if ever. Where are the shelters? where are the pickup points? etc. This jerk doesn’t have a clue and probably hasn’t even dropped a doller into a collection “boot”.
September 5th, 2005 at 7:51 pmRe: 100
September 5th, 2005 at 7:52 pmI think Barry is trying to say that he has no electricity. He’s sending email from a tin can tied via a string to a telephone line submurged in the waters left behind by Katrina.
if anyone complains about my spelling i’ll claim ____________
September 5th, 2005 at 7:52 pmNo you idiot, I have electricity, only out 4 days, no dsl, but a dial up. now what’s your problem.
September 5th, 2005 at 7:54 pmWhat planet is this guy from? The republicans own the MSM. Bush has got a free ride.
September 5th, 2005 at 7:54 pmAnd to top it off, he is the only person on earth who does not knw how to spell ‘dollar’.
September 5th, 2005 at 7:56 pmsorry tin can got in the way.
September 5th, 2005 at 7:57 pmwont mention “knw”
September 5th, 2005 at 7:58 pmRe: knw
September 5th, 2005 at 8:00 pmThat was on purpose.
ok, you can always blame the can… dial up sucks.
September 5th, 2005 at 8:04 pmhttp://www.cityofno.com/ portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26
September 5th, 2005 at 8:06 pmI. GENERAL
The safe evacuation of threatened populations when endangered by a major catastrophic event is one of the principle reasons for developing a Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan. The thorough identification of at-risk populations, transportation and sheltering resources, evacuation routes and potential bottlenecks and choke points, and the establishment of the management team that will coordinate not only the evacuation but which will monitor and direct the sheltering and return of affected populations, are the primary tasks of evacuation planning. Due to the geography of New Orleans and the varying scales of potential disasters and their resulting emergency evacuations, different plans are in place for small-scale evacuations and for citywide relocations of whole populations.
Authority to issue evacuations of elements of the population is vested in the Mayor. By Executive Order, the chief elected official, the Mayor of the City of New Orleans, has the authority to order the evacuation of residents threatened by an approaching hurricane.
Evacuation procedures for special needs persons with either physical or mental handicaps, including registration of disabled persons, is covered in the SOP for Evacuation of Special Needs Persons.
Major population relocations resulting from an approaching hurricane or similar anticipated disaster, caused the City of New Orleans Office of Emergency Preparedness to develop a specific Hurricane Emergency Evacuation Standard Operating Procedures, which are appended to the Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan.
The SOP is developed to provide for an orderly and coordinated evacuation intended to minimize the hazardous effects of flooding, wind, and rain on the residents and visitors in New Orleans. The SOP provides for the evacuation of the public from danger areas and the designations of shelters for evacuees.
September 5th, 2005 at 8:10 pmBaton Rouge and La SOP on line as well, this is just an section I. It even gets more interesting. Well worth reading. La SOP even more so.
September 5th, 2005 at 8:15 pmRe: 111
September 5th, 2005 at 8:18 pmSo we can assume that PFC Smith is responsible for taking out the entire Iraqi insurgency. Let’s not shove the blame down to the ranks. In a national disaster, the nation must respond.
II. CONCEPT OF OPERATIONS
The Hurricane Emergency Evacuation Standard Operating Procedure is designed to deal with all case scenarios of an evacuation in response to the approach of a major hurricane towards New Orleans. It is designed to deal with the anticipation of a direct hit from a major hurricane. This includes identifying the city’s present population, its projected population, identification of at-risk populations (those living outside levee protection or in storm-surge areas, floodplains, mobile homes, etc.), in order to understand the evacuation requirements. It includes identifying the transportation network, especially the carrying-capacity of proposed evacuation routes and existing or potential traffic bottlenecks or blockages, caused either by traffic congestion or natural occurrences such as rising waters. Identification of sheltering resources and the establishment of shelters and the training of shelter staff is important, as is the provision for food and other necessities to the sheltered. This preparation function is the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Preparedness.
Conduct of an actual evacuation will be the responsibility of the Mayor of New Orleans in coordination with the Director of the Office of Emergency Preparedness, and the OEP Shelter Coordinator.
The SOP, in unison with other elements of the Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan, is designed for use in all hazard situations, including citywide evacuations in response to hurricane situations and addresses three elements of emergency response: warning, evacuation, and sheltering.
1. Warning: Formulates a comprehensive system for public information, early recognition of impending storms, and dissemination of emergency warning.
2. Evacuation: Formulates an effective procedure for orderly evacuation of residents and visitors within available warning time.
3. Sheltering: Formulates a comprehensive system of accessible shelters of adequate size.
The SOP is limited as it is not designed to address the protection of personal and real property, yet is developed to cover the total New Orleans geographic area. The timely issuance of evacuation orders critically impacts upon the successful evacuation of all citizens from high-risk areas. In determining the proper time to issue evacuation orders, there is no substitute for human judgement based upon all known circumstances surrounding local conditions and storm characteristics.
Information received from the National Hurricane Center concerning the storm’s tract will allow the focusing on either a landfall, paralleling or exiting storm scenario. Information involving local conditions such as pre-hurricane rainfall, tide schedules, and the amount of pre-storm publicity, must be taken into account, as are the various known circumstances that are explained in the information summary portion of the Hurricane Evacuation Plan, in determining when an evacuation order should be issued. Any assumption regarding where and how the storm will likely make landfall involves clear and constant communication with the National Hurricane Center, the local office of the National Weather Service, State OEP and various local agencies that are monitoring either the storm’s progress or other elements of the city’s preparedness to weather the storm’s passage.
The City of New Orleans will utilize all available resources to quickly and safely evacuate threatened areas. Those evacuated will be directed to temporary sheltering and feeding facilities as needed. When specific routes of progress are required, evacuees will be directed to those routes. Special arrangements will be made to evacuate persons unable to transport themselves or who require specific life saving assistance. Additional personnel will be recruited to assist in evacuation procedures as needed.
Slow developing weather conditions (primarily hurricane) will create increased readiness culminating in an evacuation order 24 hours (12 daylight hours) prior to predicted landfall. Disabled vehicles and debris will be removed from highways so as not to impede evacuation. In local evacuations involving more than fifty (50) families (i.e. 50 single dwelling units), staging areas may be established at the closest available public area outside the threatened area. Upon arrival at the staging area, evacuees will be directed to the appropriate shelter facility. Evacuees will be encouraged to stay with friends or relatives in non-threatened areas whenever possible. Security measures will be employed to protect the evacuated area(s) in accordance with established procedures and situations.
The use of travel-trailers, campers, motorcycles, bicycles, etc., during the evacuation will be allowed so long as the situation permits it. Public information broadcasts will include any prohibitions on their use. Transportation will be provided to those persons requiring public transportation from the area. (See Special Needs Transportation, ESF-1). An orderly return to the evacuated areas will be provided after the Mayor determines the threat to be terminated. Transportation back to the evacuated area after threat termination will be provided as available.
September 5th, 2005 at 8:19 pmIII. EVACUATION ORDER
A. Authority
As established by the City of New Orleans Charter, the government has jurisdiction and responsibility in disaster response. City government shall coordinate its efforts through the Office of Emergency Preparedness
The authority to order the evacuation of residents threatened by an approaching hurricane is conferred to the Governor by Louisiana Statute. The Governor is granted the power to direct and compel the evacuation of all or part of the population from a stricken or threatened area within the State, if he deems this action necessary for the preservation of life or other disaster mitigation, response or recovery. The same power to order an evacuation conferred upon the Governor is also delegated to each political subdivision of the State by Executive Order. This authority empowers the chief elected official of New Orleans, the Mayor of New Orleans, to order the evacuation of the parish residents threatened by an approaching hurricane.
B. Issuance of Evacuation Orders
The person responsible for recognition of hurricane related preparation needs and for the issuance of an evacuation order is the Mayor of the City of New Orleans. Concerning preparation needs and the issuance of an evacuation order, The Office of Emergency Preparedness should keep the Mayor advised.
IV: HURRICANE EVACUATION PROCEDURES
It must be understood that this Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan is an all-hazard response plan, and is applicable to events of all sizes, affecting even the smallest segments of the community. Evacuation procedures for small scale and localized evacuations are conducted per the SOPs of the New Orleans Fire Department and the New Orleans Police Department. However, due to the sheer size and number of persons to be evacuated, should a major tropical weather system or other catastrophic event threaten or impact the area, specifically directed long range planning and coordination of resources and responsibilities efforts must be undertaken.
A. Evacuation Time Requirements
Using information developed as part of the Southeast Louisiana Hurricane Task Force and other research, the City of New Orleans has established a maximum acceptable hurricane evacuation time standard for a Category 3 storm event of 72 hours. This is based on clearance time or is the time required to clear all vehicles evacuating in response to a hurricane situation from area roadways. Clearance time begins when the first evacuating vehicle enters the road network and ends when the last evacuating vehicle reaches its destination.
Clearance time also includes the time required by evacuees to secure their homes and prepare to leave (mobilization time); the time spent by evacuees traveling along the road network (travel time); and the time spent by evacuees waiting along the road network due to traffic congestion (delay time). Clearance time does not refer to the time a single vehicle spends traveling on the road network. Evacuation notices or orders will be issued during three stages prior to gale force winds making landfall.
> Precautionary Evacuation Notice: 72 hours or less
> Special Needs Evacuation Order: 8-12 hours after Precautionary Evacuation Notice issued
> General Evacuation Notice: 48 hours or less
September 5th, 2005 at 8:21 pmV. TASKS
A. Mayor
* Initiate the evacuation.
* Retain overall control of all evacuation procedures via EOC operations.
* Authorize return to evacuated areas.
B. Office of Emergency Preparedness
* Activate EOC and notify all support agencies to this plan.
* Coordinate with State OEP on elements of evacuation.
* Assist in directing the transportation of evacuees to staging areas.
* Assist ESF-8, Health and Medical, in the evacuation of persons with special needs, nursing home, and hospital patients in accordance with established procedures.
* Coordinate the release of all public information through ESF-14, Public Information.
* Use EAS, television, cable and other public broadcast means as needed and in accordance with established procedure.
* Request additional law enforcement/traffic control (State Police, La. National Guard) from State OEP.
C. New Orleans Police Department
* Ensure orderly traffic flow.
* Assist in removing disabled vehicles from roadways as needed.
* Direct the management of transportation of seriously injured persons to hospitals as needed.
* Direct evacuees to proper shelters and/or staging areas once they have departed the threatened area.
* Release all public information through the ESF-14, Public Information.
D. Regional Transit Authority
* Supply transportation as needed in accordance with the current Standard Operating Procedures.
* Place special vehicles on alert to be utilized if needed.
* Position supervisors and dispatch evacuation buses.
* If warranted by scope of evacuation, implement additional service.
E. Louisiana National Guard
* Provide assistance as needed in accordance with current State guidelines.
F. Animal Care and Control
* Coordinate animal rescue operations with the New Orleans SPCA.
G. Public Works
* Make emergency road repairs as needed.
H. Office of Communications
* Release all public information relating to the evacuation.
PART 3: SHELTERING
(See ESF-6, Mass Care)
Emergency shelter operations are the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Preparedness Shelter Coordinator. Shelters are provided by the Orleans Parish School Board, while manager training and support activities and supplies are provided by the Office of Emergency Preparedness.
Reassessment of facilities is an on-going process conducted jointly by the School Board, and Emergency Preparedness Division. The shelter activation list is updated yearly, and takes into consideration new school construction, school closings and renovations.
A. Shelter Demand
Shelter demand is currently under review by the Shelter Coordinator. Approximately 100,000 Citizens of New Orleans do not have means of personal transportation. Shelter assessment is an ongoing project of the Office of Emergency Preparedness through the Shelter Coordinator.
The following schools have been inspected and approved as Hurricane Evacuation Shelters for the City of New Orleans: Laurel Elementary School
Walter S. Cohen High School
Medard Nelson Elementary School
Sarah T. Reed High School
Southern University Multi Purpose Center
Southern University New Science Building
O. Perry Walker High School
Albert Wicker Elementary School
It should not be assumed that all of the approved shelters listed above will be opened in the event of a hurricane or other major tropical storm. The names and locations of open shelters will be announced when an evacuation order is issued. This list is not for public information and should not be duplicated and distributed. In the event that shelters are opened, people who go to their nearest listed location may find, for one reason or another, that the facility is not open as a shelter, forcing them to seek an alternate location. It is also possible that people anticipating the opening of shelters may arrive before shelters are set-up and ready to receive them. For these and other reasons, shelters which are to be used will not be identified until they are ready to open and not until an evacuation order, related public announcement is made.
Last Resort Refuges and Super Shelters are described in specific SOPs covering their applications.
NEX I: HURRICANES
RECOVERY (PHASE III)
City of New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan
September 5th, 2005 at 8:26 pmfollow the link above, it spells out who, what, when, and how much, rather well
September 5th, 2005 at 8:30 pm