Tom DeLay: Response to Katrina a “Phenomenal Accomplishment”
Tom DeLay: Response to Katrina a “Phenomenal Accomplishment”
Speaking on the floor of the House an hour ago, Tom DeLay evaluated the response to Hurricane Katrina:
It’s easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but you should have been in that control room where those people were making life and death decisions, people that stayed up and got no sleep and very little food for five to six days straight trying to make the right decisions to save people. What happens when we come up here? They point the finger. You didn’t make the right decision here. You didn’t take care of my aides there. You didn’t do this. You didn’t do that. The point is if you look at the big picture, it’s a phenomenal accomplishment by everybody involved. It’s unbelievable. I am constantly struck by where we are today just a little over a week from the worst catastrophe that this country has seen.
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Sadly, I was constantly struck by where we were just UNDER a week after the worst catastrophe this country has seen. Remember where that was? Inaction and negligence turned a natural disaster into a manmade catastrophe, with elderly dying in the streets, babies starving and thirsty. But as always, Republicans don’t want you to focus on what went wrong in the past. They only want you to forget about what they’ll do wrong in the future.
September 8th, 2005 at 4:16 pmYou weren’t there either, Mr. Delay.
September 8th, 2005 at 4:18 pmIf they call this a success, I’d really hate to see failure.
The US can deliver a “smart” bomb on civilians in Iraq in under 40minutes. But the US can’t seem to deliver food, clothing, or aid to it’s own people in under a fortnight. :-(
September 8th, 2005 at 4:20 pm>
September 8th, 2005 at 4:22 pmGee, they were awake a long time. They worked HAAAARD. But they had food and water and weren’t being eaten by alligators or bitten by snakes or stepping over dead bodies or breath that fetid air or not bathing or raped by crazies or watching babies being raped/getting their throats slit or turned away from escaping at gunpoint or shuttled around, if the survived, held at gunpoint and locked down in a place where more rapes and murders occur.
They are the epitomy of pure greed. They think about themselves first and that is the last thing we need in a politician. Those that want such power and need billions of dollars to be happy and successful are overcompensating for shortcomings. These types never are really “happy.” They feel they never have enough and there is always a void to fill.
September 8th, 2005 at 4:24 pm“Phenomenal accomplishment”? I thought the preferred expression was “catastrophic success.” Or are they “heroes in error”?
September 8th, 2005 at 4:27 pmThe first week looked like calculated inaction and forced negligence to me.
September 8th, 2005 at 4:30 pmUh, Tom? I think I’d lay low for a while. But that’s just my opinion…
Oh yeah, Tom, you’re doing a heckuva job.
September 8th, 2005 at 4:33 pmI’ve been mentioning the James Kroeger article, The Republican Nemesis, on the blogs because I feel so strongly about its potential to make the Democrats the majority party again.
It’s lengthy, but it’s packed with insights into why Democratic campaign strategists fail when they go up against the Republicans.
Here’s what others have been saying about THE REPUBLICAN NEMESIS.
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September 8th, 2005 at 4:35 pm“I am constantly struck by where we are today just a little over a week from the worst catastrophe that this country has seen.”
Well now, by my calculations it has been four plus years for this skel “ceo president” to get his response to anything ready. So far it has been excuses and colossal failure. Perhaps we are turning a corner in the amount of time it actually takes, just don’t hold your breath in the bathtub.
September 8th, 2005 at 4:43 pm“10 days ago, thousands of people were dying. But now they’re all dead. So I really think we’re turning the corner.
“You have to look at the ‘big picture.’ From 30,000 feet, New Orleans looks like a lovely, sectioned Zen terrarium with a delicate gridwork of sparkling canals. It’s really only close-up and on-the-ground that it turns into a gigantic poop-sluice filled with bloaded, floating cadavers.
“Step back, get some perspective, and I know you’ll agree that this is a wonderful, phenomenal thing.”
September 8th, 2005 at 4:45 pmAgain, he is correct. He is not dwelling on the negatives, as you are. It has been an incredible undertaking responding to this tragedy.
September 8th, 2005 at 4:45 pmHey I know Stan,
September 8th, 2005 at 4:48 pmWhy don’t you take your message (over and over)
on the road, like to NOLA?
I am sure you could cheer everyone up with a
big banner about what a great job was done!
Stan, reach down, grab your ears, take a deep breath…..AND PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!
September 8th, 2005 at 4:49 pmOh, take Tom D. with ya.
September 8th, 2005 at 4:49 pmYou might ask him to bring some
bug spray. The good stuff that he has
hidden from the devil EPA.
Or just serve Stan, sign up and serve in the military. Stop talking and serve. Of course, we know that the excuses are already on your thin razor lips.
September 8th, 2005 at 4:52 pmAm confused.
Bush: “unacceptable”
Delay: “phenomenal accomplishment”
Help is on the way! But it’s a lot of “hard work” and “we’re making progress”.
Way to BushCo.
September 8th, 2005 at 4:59 pmThings seem to be coming together, but this, Stan, is in spite of FEMA, bush, cheney and delay.
They are still screwing up so much it hurts to see it. Take Gulfport,MS for example. FEMA has directed truck load after truck load of water there. The cops cant cope with the situation, they have a small force.
There is enough bottled water on the ground there to last the whole county for years to come. Other items, short, or out of them entirely.
Oh yeah, FEMA ran by brown is a great, great organization.
September 8th, 2005 at 5:17 pmYes, back-pats all around. A phenomenal accomplishment. The way they shifted blame to local authorities. The way critics were derided. Blame game, that was brilliant. I really must applaud this administration for not letting a little thing like allowing hospitals to run out of fuel get in the way of their political success.
September 8th, 2005 at 5:23 pmBTW Pablo,
September 8th, 2005 at 5:24 pmI hear the Mexican Army is coming
with supplies.
Thanks.
Yes, Stan, let’s not dwell on the negatives. That’s a good happy thought. Lalalalalala I can’t hear the critics or screams of the dying lalala…
September 8th, 2005 at 5:24 pm“Phenomenal accomplishment” must be another Bush term meaning the opposite -
September 8th, 2005 at 5:25 pmclear skies (pollution)
healthy forests (developers chopping trees)
If this were another time, these guys would all be stand up comedians. But in this very serious time, these guys themselves are the jokes.
I am getting more cynical than ex-hippy.
September 8th, 2005 at 5:26 pmI begin to think it went just they way
they wanted it to.
Someone just asked, “Why have a government if it won’t help it’s own people?”
Good question. Seems that government needs to be taken back from the corporate interests.
September 8th, 2005 at 5:37 pmJCGW,
Think about it. If they make every facet
September 8th, 2005 at 5:44 pmof government a disaster on purpose, people
will hate every facet of government and
Grover can drag it to the bathtub.
You are right that it needs to be taken over,
not allowed to be destroyed, but I am not sure
what will be left and if anyone will be willing
to allow rebuilding.
Look at FEMA. Became a good agency under Clinton.
BushCo turned it into a florida political vote
buying organization.
Who would trust it now?
That is what I mean by it went as they planned.
Good government destroyed…”mission accomplished”
Good government destroyed…â€mission accomplishedâ€
September 8th, 2005 at 6:01 pmThat’s a good point worth remembering as we watch the slow and deliberate destruction of the America we once knew and loved.
You people disgust me. I the wake of all that has happened, all you do is whine and complain. If the proper evacuation steps had been followed in the first place(using the cities buses to remove people), there would not have been as many people to try to save. But the president doesnt control that so lets not mention it. Or turning away food and water so the Superdome doesn’t draw more people. Oh wait, that was the states fault again, lets not mention that either.
September 8th, 2005 at 6:06 pmAs for the efforts that have been taking place, we should be applauding, not complaining. The rescuers are people too. The equipment they use is not indestructable. Under a “manditory evacuation,” are they supposed to remain in the storm? They, like everyone else had to seek shelter. Then they had to return and get control of the situation, which should have been the local governments job. Oops, didn’t mean to say that.
If President Bush himself had rescued half of the people in the Superdome the day after the storm, all you people would do is bitch about the other half having to wait.
More help and perhaps ideas of how to better the situation is what is needed now. Not finger pointing. You people who fault Bush do so no matter how he reacted.
Stan, Charlie,
Nice trolling for der republicans mind control. Now please go f**k yourselves with Cheney and leave the blog site. You are and enemy of America and a traitor to democracy.
Tom Delay must be on drugs, any spin to deflect attention. This man (sic) deserves the worst that life can deliver.
September 8th, 2005 at 6:15 pmCharlie,
September 8th, 2005 at 6:15 pmNo offense, but you are spinning
already inoperative talking points.
Did you miss Rove’s fax this morning?
JCGW,
I agree with it all in #27.
September 8th, 2005 at 6:20 pmI have read about Prescott. Pretty damning
but there seemed to still be a bit of mystery
about the numbers.
I hate to generalize, but the Bush clan
really don’t seem to be a very nice group of “folks”
Oh, and Charlie?
September 8th, 2005 at 6:22 pmIf we disgust you, you have my permission
to leave and never come back.
These republican skels are too much
It is a failure of your ideology. You want ineffective federal government, you got your wish. You want individuals responsible for their own welfare using individual resources, and you have your wish. Your problem is, when the water is drained out of the bathtub we see the bodies. How about taking individual responsibility for your republican skel ideology? All else is “up or down”, “blame gaming”, and “flip flop”. So just do human kind right and go f**k yourselves!
September 8th, 2005 at 6:27 pmYou people disgust me. I the wake of all that has happened, all you do is whine and complain.
Not true, Charlie. There are medical teams across the country ready and waiting for FEMA to get their act together.
It is you who disgust me. Bush waited days before doing anything. Forget the poor people and city buses. What about hospitals? Hospitals cannot be evacuated on short notice. They have to ride it out and rely on their own generators. They required fuel supplies after the storm. Fuel which should have come from FEMA, and never did. Patient depending on life support — including babies in incubators — died because of Brownie’s inaction. And Bush supporters have the gall to complain about criticism. As if criticism prevented the fuel from coming in.
There is no excuse for allowing babies in incubators to die.
And in spite of that, you still want to play this blame game. Why don’t you forget the blame, try and help out, like a lot of us are trying to help. But we can’t because FEMA is sloooooow organizing the help. So what do we do if FEMA is keeping us out? What do you suggest?
September 8th, 2005 at 6:30 pmWhere does FEMA and the Feds responsiblity begin?
September 8th, 2005 at 6:33 pmShould Bush have personally knocked on doors to make sure that everyone is evacuated? Im not being a smart *ss, but I have yet to hear or read how he “should have” reacted. Any ideas?
Stan I repeat, and answer this skel!
It is a failure of your ideology, everthing you form your opinions upon. You wanted ineffective federal government, you got your wish. You want individuals responsible for their own welfare using individual resources, and you have your wish. Your problem is, when the water is drained out of the bathtub WE CAN SEE THE BODIES!! How about taking individual responsibility for your republican skel ideology? All else is “up or down”, “blame gaming”, and “flip flop”. Answer the question of failure, then go somwhere else and redefine your beliefs.
September 8th, 2005 at 6:37 pmStan
September 8th, 2005 at 6:40 pmThe incredible undertaking was Delay getting a hold of himself and realizing the phenomena he had just encountered without the aid of props or jeff gannon
Charlie, come and answer my question, time to step up and explain the most basic tenet of your ideals.
September 8th, 2005 at 6:43 pmHay Charlie, I’m still waiting for the list of good things your boss Bush has done. Is your check in the mail.? Blessings.
September 8th, 2005 at 6:45 pmSomeone in a discussion forum that I frequent recently asked “How far is too far?”. I didn’t have to think long before responding with the following:
This far.
This far, and no further.
When thousands of our own citizens die needlessly, and the lives of the living, the dead, and the dying in the aftermath of a disaster, are trivialized by politicians who ignore the fact that they have failed in their mission to serve the people, that is when things have gone too far.
This is the point at which we must, as a nation, stand up and cry defiantly “This far, and no further”.
This is the point when thousands of evacuees and millions of Americans must confront their leaders and say “enough”.
This is when the “accountability moment”, the “Monica moment”, the “Plame game”, and the “blame game” must be met with realism.
This is when the sound and the fury of a nation scorned through spin must take back the attention of the faux leaders.
This is the point where those who have sown the wind must reap the whirlwind.
In the words of Frederick Douglass, who presented the quote above, a few other pertinent quotes:
What else to say? What other thoughts inscribed on the collective subconsious could stir the souls of many to find their voice?
That phrase was created to test the typewriter, but it works well.
They – the fear-mongers, the plastic figureheads, the conniving manipulators, the instapundits – have gone too far.
Collectively, we must all now stand up and shout “Too far! Too much! This far, and no further, shall you advance your petty agendas at the cost of our nation and our lives!”
Before it is too late.
*also crossposted on DailyKOS, here.
September 8th, 2005 at 6:46 pmTypical republican skels, they need to consult something to define their individual ideology. They don’t even know why they fight, this is why they are weak.
September 8th, 2005 at 6:48 pmMust… Kill… Charlie…
September 8th, 2005 at 7:09 pmCharlie, forget the people who didn’t want to leave. What about the hospitals? Answer that, you heartless ideologue.
September 8th, 2005 at 7:10 pmHere’s an idea Charley…bush reacted FAST when FLA. and brother jeb got hit a while back. Photo op. them giving ice to folks, used in election bull s—.
September 8th, 2005 at 7:13 pmThe response from Houston WAS phenomenal — but then we have a Democrat for a Mayor who believes in hiring qualified emergency management and crisis management personnel.
Not that DeLay had anything to do that.
September 8th, 2005 at 7:22 pmPerfect comment from Delay who thinks the horrific working conditions on the Marianna Islands is a working model of what this country should be doing. Of course, he and his family were enjoying the beaches at the time, not serving in some filthy unairconditioned sweatshop. Aaah, the Republican Reich’s dream for the lower and middle classes! Some of it has just come true for them.
When oh when will the likes of Bush, Cheney, Rove, Delay, Frist, and Santorum go back to their mult-million dollar mansions and pretend to be Born Again while screwing protstitutes, dominating their no-brain wives and getting on with their drinking and other addictions? At least they would not be killing innocent people by the hundred thousands.
September 8th, 2005 at 7:40 pmStan and other RWers —- telll the thousands of folks who are just NOW getting assistance (parishes southeast of NOLA) that this is an unmitigated success. The feds have made this a giant clusterf*** … and I’m not defending the state and local govs who also have screwed up. Yet, the feds should have taken control from the beginning and are still not in control. You know things are FUBAR when the RW press turns against Brown et al …
September 8th, 2005 at 7:41 pmI wouldn’t even argue the feds should have taken control. It would have been enough if the feds simply organized their own assets. Which they did not do.
September 8th, 2005 at 7:44 pmI put my name on the FEMA volunteer list yesterday. Since the request wasn’t made of the hospital I work at until Tuesday of this week, I would like to suggest that FEMA recruit and organize emergency medical responders BEFORE the next catastrophic event.
That just seems to make sense to me. The medical teams could have been in place a safe distance from the coastline on the day BEFORE the hurricane hit.
It would require some planning and reasonable preparation. But, it isn’t outrageous to expect our government to use our taxes to plan and prepare. Is it?
September 8th, 2005 at 7:49 pmOur hospital was told to wait until October, but we’ve been told a lot of things this past week. Nobody seems to know what the plan is.
September 8th, 2005 at 8:04 pmThere is no plan as it is not an election year.
September 8th, 2005 at 8:05 pmDon’t you know
Talking about a revolution
Don’t you know
Talking about a revolution
Finally the tables are starting to turn
Talking about a revolution
Tracy Chapman
September 8th, 2005 at 8:50 pm#32 cit.80203
September 8th, 2005 at 8:54 pmForgive me, but I must have missed it originally. I keep looking for the clue to tell me what is a skel, but I can’t find it. I have to admit my ignorance. Though I can guess what you mean, would you mind clueing me in — I may like to try it in conversations myself.
I am about 99.8% in agreement with your posts.
Well citizen, that is more than three sigma (99.73%)
September 8th, 2005 at 8:58 pmso you are doing pretty good.
Need to work with Motorola to get to six sigma.
The Boy Scouts have “Be prepared”.
Mr. Bush, the Chief of the Counterfeit Compassionate Conservative And Oh Yeah By The Way Conspicuously Caucasian Caucus, and his Administation and agencies, which I have christened the Dither of Dolts (by analogy with “pod of whales”, “murder of crows”, etc.), have:
“What a deal of grief, care, and other harmful excitement does a healthy dullness and insensibility avoid!” (W. M. Thackeray in Pendennis)
Like the Chief’s mother, they see no point in cluttering their “beautiful minds” with images of “body bags and death”.
As for the victims, of what can they complain? As the elder Mrs. Bush pointed out, they’re all so poor — being in a shelter is a step up for them.
Well, we got the “le deluge” part, but damn it, the “apres” part didn’t happen — Bush is still here.
September 8th, 2005 at 8:58 pmPoor people gonna rise up and get their share
Poor people gonna rise up and take what’s theirs
Don’t you know you betta run run run run run run run run run
Finally the tables are starting to turn
Talking about a revolution
While they’re standing in the welfare lines
Crying in the doorsteps of those armies of salvations
Sitting around waiting for a promotion
Finally the tables are starting to turn
Talking about a revolution
Oh yah
Talking about a revolution
Oh yah
Tracy Chapman
September 8th, 2005 at 9:05 pmWell cmw,
September 8th, 2005 at 9:10 pmI was hoping it would not come to that,
but the longer it goes…..
The Bush White House, if nothing else, is a marketing machine, a triumph of style over substance. In the summer of 2002, Bush Chief of Staff Andy Card admitted as much, declaring the time for selling the planned war with Iraq was not yet ripe, “from a marketing point of view, you don’t introduce new products in August.”
Therein lies the problem for President Bush in the marketing of his administration’s abysmal response to hurricane Katrina. Bush has no product. Even worse, he has no pitch man, or worse still, pitch woman. In a nutshell, George W. Bush needs the Lisa Beamer of New Orleans. But sadly for President Bush, in New Orleans, the color of suffering – and heroism – is black.
For the full story, see:
“Where’s the Lisa Beamer of New Orleans?”
September 8th, 2005 at 9:12 pmJon
You seem to not believe the spin, yet you do.
You believe BUsh’s problem is one of marketing.
Bush knows what he’s doing, contrary to the suggestions that he’s dumb
Selling isn’t the problem
They are good at selling
The problem for them is how to dispose of all the bodies
It’s the same problem Hitler’s henchmen had – how to dispose of the Jews
The bureaucrats dutifully came up with the final solution – they told themselves it was merciful – merciful to the unwanted jews whose possessions and land they’d stolen – a quick death in technologically managed death camps – with IBM punch cards – and all would be done correctly, smoothly
Wake up Jon. And smell the coming death camps
September 8th, 2005 at 9:17 pmGee cmw,
That might be just a touch over the top,
September 8th, 2005 at 9:20 pmdon’t you think?
No i don’t think so
I think it’s just beginning to delineate what’s actually happening to us
September 8th, 2005 at 9:25 pmAfterthought
Yesterday the estimate was 10,000 body bags needed.
September 8th, 2005 at 9:26 pmToday it was 25,000
Now the story is 40,000 body bags
How many tens of thousands will have to die before people wake up
Does the fact that most of the dead will be darker skinned make “white” people feel safe – after all they are black and poor and didn’t get out of the way of the storm – is that mantra calming to whites?
September 8th, 2005 at 9:32 pmThe American citizens did a phenomenal job. Our government failed.
Our members of Congress also failed to exclude the victims from the new bankruptcy law. They have until Oct. 17th like everybody else. They can file in Baton Rouge. Too bad for most of the displaced Americans who are expected to pay car notes and mortgages, they are miles away from Baton Rouge.
Many are stuck in DeLay country and they will get absolutely no relief or services. This decision to allow active duty military the exemption but not the disaster victims should just about seal the deal on a NEW CONGRESS.
I’m using my radio show to let Congress know that no current member will be getting my vote in the future.
Listen to the updated broadcast, it has gotten political!
September 8th, 2005 at 9:35 pm“Forgive me, but I must have missed it originally. I keep looking for the clue to tell me what is a skel, but I can’t find it. I have to admit my ignorance.”
Marie, you ignorant slut….
A skel in loser-speak is synonymous with a troll. That is a person of intellect far above the norm for this site, a person of uncommon moral clarity; again, uncommon for this site and a person who isn’t afraid to step into a nest of vipers armed with only a big stick. Or in my case not even that. All I have is my locally infamous ClueBoot of Doomâ„¢ that I use to stomp on the Filthy Left and shove up the ass of the worst of them. Allow me to give you an example…
This thread my dear is really not about DeLay and his Evil minions patting themselves on the back for a job well done. You should ignore the constant prattling about Bush hating Blacks. This thread like so many others on this site is about deflecting from the real story of the New Orleans disaster. The real story is a racial one. It’s very uncomfortable for me to discuss and absolutely forbidden by these fellow travelers you admire, so you know its got to be bad, and it is.
The real story is about how in a modern American city a large portion of the black population went “jungle” on us. Dr. John Ray puts it this way and as usual doesn’t pull any punches:
” As soon as normal restraints were loosened large numbers of blacks completely ignored all laws and decencies and behaved like insensate beasts — looting, raping and even shooting at rescue helicopters. For troops to be sent in with “shoot to kill” orders against black gangs and looters in an American city is so extraordinary that it reveals how total was the breakdown of civility in post-hurricane NO.
Given the fragility of civilized behavior among large numbers of blacks, it seems to me that this should be a wake-up call to Americans every bit as vivid as the 9/11 events were. Black criminality must now be targeted as relentlessly as the lawless Muslim regimes in Afghanistan and Iraq were. All criticism of “racial profiling” must stop. “Racial profiling” must in fact be stepped up if the large bestial section of the black population is to be put in the one place suitable for them — jail.”
To those of you who are misinformed, undereducated, less worldly and those of you given to fits of uncontrollable sloppy sentimentality this may seem like a harsh judgment of a people who you’ve been taught to admire and emulate. But let’s face it kiddies, anyone that wasn’t born in the ghetto and owns a rap CD must be the product of public education and by default misinformed, undereducated and less worldly. Not to mention the fact that all their taste is in their mouth. In short, most of you don’t know shit from shitake.
For you shit eaters I leave these words of wisdom until such a time as we can find you and do a proper job of deprogramming. Fear not boiz and gurls. Help is on the way. I’m just sorry we couldn’t find a better place than West Texas to put the camps.
September 8th, 2005 at 9:42 pmI don’t believe I’ve ever seen the federal government fail on such a spectacular level before. Delay is right, it was a phenomenal accomplishment.
September 8th, 2005 at 9:43 pmWow that was kinda racist…
Perhaps instead of deriding public education, you could look for ways to make it better so everyone isn’t so ignorant?
September 8th, 2005 at 9:49 pmIn reality the crime statistics in the days after Katrina were in line with the avg. crime stats for NO.(with the exception of looting, of course) Next scapegoat,next deflection.
September 8th, 2005 at 9:58 pmI think we all know who the animals are now. Care for some NaziChow I Is Right?
Justin…haven’t you noticed that anyone who points at the kettle and says, “hey look, a black kettle”, is a racist? But whatever, sue me.
Yep, I’m doing that. I support vouchers so the little black kids can get out of those jails guarded by incompetent hacks they call “teachers” and advocate women don’t get knocked up without the benefit of marriage. That way if they have half a brain they can homeschool. Oh, also. I’m very much in favor of hanging Leftist college professors from the nearest flag pole.
How’s that?
September 8th, 2005 at 10:00 pm#63 scares me. Sure hope he isn’t a government official. Disgusting. And, spewing the usual rhetoric about blacks shooting helicoptors etc – see Charmiane Neville’s account for an explanation if you need it. I guess most sentient beings can tell that #63 is out of his mind. Wish he’s get out of our thread…
September 8th, 2005 at 10:01 pmThat’s not a good solution at all. And what you said WAS racist. Homeschooling and abstinence? Those don’t seem like very feasiable ideas. I mean how are the parents supposed to go all the way up the academic scale? And everyone is going to have sex.
By the way, there is a reason that people who are highly educated tend to be left wing.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:03 pmI-Right-I, you racist asshole, if you had shit for brains, you wouldn’t have enough to stink. I’d like to give you the opportunity to call me shit eater to my face, dick breath.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:03 pm“In reality the crime statistics in the days after Katrina were in line with the avg. crime stats for NO.”
You don’t know much about statistics or NO do you Ray? New Orleans is the murder capital of the USA…Ray. But go ahead and post you stats Ray.
By the way, I know people who live and or have relatives in the small towns around New Orleans. The Refugees have in some places maintained their rampage and turned these places into hell holes for decent people. How can you defend these bastards? (literal bastards Ray) Have you no shame Sir? Shitake for brains maybe. Don’t worry kid, I’m here to help.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:07 pmWE SURLY WOULDNT BLAME OUR FAMOUS PRESIDENT FOR NOT REACATING TO ALITTLE THING LIKE A HURRACAIN GET IN THE WAY OF A VACATION AFTER ALL HE SAYS HIMSELF HE HAS NEVER MADE A MISTAKE PEOPLE WE SHOULD ALWAYS LET OTHERS KNOW THIS MAN HAS NEVER BEEN WRONG
September 8th, 2005 at 10:10 pm“By the way, there is a reason that people who are highly educated tend to be left wing.”
Yes there is. They hold themselves to be smarter and better than everyone else yet make little money or hold any real power. That makes them envious of everyone around them and antiestablishment. The fact is the real highly educated people don’t teach in schools of any kind. They are too busy making an honest living and doing very well. Leftists hate us because in fact, we’re better than them.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:11 pmI-RightI, #63, those are pretty strong words even for a republican. I take it, and I’m just guessing, that you don’t much care for “shit eaters?”
But correct me if I’m wrong, but I take it you have been “Hannitized?”
September 8th, 2005 at 10:12 pmF*** Tom DeLay very, very much
September 8th, 2005 at 10:13 pmIs there any way to find out where I Is Right lives so we can check on the small animal population? Poor critters.
Oh, and check his freezer too.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:13 pmI know the deal.
Drop and give me twenty Pencilneck. You ought to have your ass kicked for stealing that handle from honorable men. Dipshit.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:15 pmJoesix…I’m so far to the right you have to look over your left shoulder to see me coming. I’ve never seen Hannity’s show, heard him on the radio a few times. I think he’s a pussy.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:17 pmTry me on anytime you want, MF. Lets see if I fit. I like tough guys like you.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:18 pmYou’re not going to like me Pencil. I’m a lot smarter than you.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:22 pm“I guess most sentient beings can tell that #63 is out of his mind. Wish he’s get out of our thread…”
Sara my dear. This is no place for ladies. Oh wait…if you were a lady you wouldn’t be here. Got a tongue stud and an ass tat do you? Sweet!
September 8th, 2005 at 10:25 pmI-Right-I #78, you really ought to check him out. He and Limbaugh are right up your alley. He’s kind of a shit eater of sorts, but on the opposite side of here, if you know what I mean.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think I would screw around with that “Pencilneck” as you called him—it would just be your luck to find a big, pissed off black marine wanting to rip your head off and shit down your neck.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:26 pmListen I-Wrong-I, I take offense to you calling Marie an ignorant slut. I hope somebody does kick your ass.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:27 pmYour a sicko I-Wrong-I. If you have a problem with the women around here then just leave. We are not going to lend you our panties so your wasting your time here.
Freak.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:30 pm“Homeschooling and abstinence? Those don’t seem like very feasiable ideas.”
It works well for a lot of White folk Justin. Are you suggesting that Blacks are not capable of taking care of their own and controlling themselves?
September 8th, 2005 at 10:31 pm“Listen I-Wrong-I, I take offense to you calling Marie an ignorant slut. I hope somebody does kick your ass.”
Shut up Susan. If I want your opinion I’ll give it to you. In fact I take offense of you taking offense. By the way, I stole that from Saturday Night Live. I guess it was before your time.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:34 pmSusan said, “panties”.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:35 pmit would just be your luck to find a big, pissed off black marine
Joesix…I think the odds are I’d find some skinny white kid with a bone through his nose. You won’t find too many Marines of any color hooting and hollering on this site like a bunch of drunken Jr. high school kidz.
September 8th, 2005 at 10:47 pmI Right I: an analysis,a profile
Ehhhemmm. Statements of compensation from an underachiever trying to boost his oft deflated ego with boastful statements and attempted intimidation of the other, all while delusions of grandeur play in the back of his head.
Verrrrry interrresting!
Now get your oily head off my couch!
And yes, Tom DeLay is wasted sperm
September 8th, 2005 at 10:52 pmI-RIGHT-I, #88, you might be right. Also about being smarter than that pencilneck. But you’re a lot braver than I am. I like the cheap shot you took at Susan in #86. You should have said, if you wanted her opinion, you’d slap it out of her. That’s how us rightwing rednecks take care of business with our bitches. How bout you?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you ought to list your address here so that skinny-assed white kid can look you up. He’s probably so damned dumb, he couldn’t find it anyway, huh?
September 8th, 2005 at 10:57 pmIt is a phenomenal accompishment – in incompetence… But then he’s been incompetent for so long, he can’t see this I’m sure… partisan hacks!
September 8th, 2005 at 11:05 pmI-wrongie has been watching too much dune. He thinks a rude voice that attempts to be authoritarian actually scares or affects intelligent people. To us you just look like a raving fundamentalist fool… You and osama are cut from the same raving lunatic cloth. He’s a right wing islamist fascist – you’re a right wing american free market fascist. You each have your radical religion, and you’re both as crazy and dangerous to the societies around you…
September 8th, 2005 at 11:07 pm“You and osama are cut from the same raving lunatic cloth. He’s a right wing islamist fascist -”
Actually Ryan…Osama is a Left Wing islamist fascist. He’s your boy. I’m the right wing Christonazi. I shoot guys like Ossama and eat losers like you for lunch. Call it a service.
September 8th, 2005 at 11:17 pmRyan, you are as always erudite (bet I-Right can’t even spell that!) and concise.
September 8th, 2005 at 11:23 pmAnd I am indeed a lady, or I would type what I really think of him…
We are smarter, we are better, we are more interested in truth and justice than in making money. I am beginning to wonder if I-Right is actually sarcastic? He is soooo far out there, much worse than the usual troll.
And yes, back on thread: I agree that it’s just Orwellian as usual – it’s a phenomenal job! They just managed to clear a bunch of valuable portside property of a whole bunch of useless poor people! Cheap at the price of body bags. Definitely intentional slowness. I weep for New Orleans and America.
“Actually Ryan…Osama is a Left Wing islamist fascist. ”
Fascists are extreme right wing, communists are extreme left wing. And as we saw in afghanistan, osama hates communists. You’ve been listening to the right wing spin cycle that’s been trying to ‘rebrand’ conservatism to separate it from its fascist past.
September 8th, 2005 at 11:31 pmIWrong, thanks for using your own words to demonstrate you are the same as Osama. I am opposed to the death penalty and war – which makes me an ‘actual’ christian in those values. Your attachment to christianity is strange though, considering that christ taught to turn the other cheek and to avoid conflict at all costs. He was also opposed to the death penalty. Your stances aren’t very christian, but they fit islam and fasicm quite well. As I said before – you:osama – osama:you…
September 8th, 2005 at 11:34 pmSara,
Thanks for the kind words. As usual the right wing has done what it does best. Showing that it’s completely incompetent at doing ANY task…
September 8th, 2005 at 11:35 pmA skel is an empty being. Mindless (I-RIGHT-I is a perfect example). Like a skeleton – roots are Nordic if I recall.
September 8th, 2005 at 11:37 pmI-Right-I is extraordinarily prototypical. Ill-educated, heavily indebted, indigent, undoubtedly obese, oblivious to his own shortcomings, and yet preoccupied with the faults of others (or more specifically, segments of the population other than his own). Indignant, umbrageous, and unwilling to accept responsibility for his own (dire) socioeconomic predicament, Right-I languishes behind the counter at a retail chain, wondering aloud why others have eclipsed him. Why has he been relegated to the retail sector, while those “affirmative action babies” are handsomely paid? Well guess what, Right-I? This VERY affluent minority enters your place of employment, sees you lurking behind the counter, and derives GREAT satisfaction from your MISERY. Have a nice day – LOSER.
September 8th, 2005 at 11:43 pmFor all of these right wing guys have been talking guns and killing for the looters by basically playing the ‘poor race card’, comes this story.
http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/2005_09.html#078200
Apparently some of the good hearted fema workers were arrested for looting. Just when you think the leadership fema can’t get any more incompetent. Aren’t these the guys that the right wingers wanted to carry guns and use them on site? Oh yeah, it was. Just once again shows us why compassionate conservative is an oxymoron. Stubborn as an Ox but mostly Moron…
September 8th, 2005 at 11:44 pmAnyone remember who the looters were at the WTC train station underground mall? Not the poor.
September 8th, 2005 at 11:48 pmRe: 100
September 8th, 2005 at 11:59 pmThere were about 10 subway cops, three firemen and five or so NYPD as well as a few hundred civilans. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China when you have a cast of thousands?
We must be on alert so we don’t find ourselves in a similar situation as Nazi Germany–our present administration is showing many signals of fascism.
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller
September 9th, 2005 at 12:01 amWalt,
September 9th, 2005 at 12:05 amDifferent attitude displayed. Highlighting racism with the closest most recent applicable example.
#97 Thanks Walt.
September 9th, 2005 at 12:06 amLL,
September 9th, 2005 at 12:07 amDid I mention race?
The level of ignorance, bigotry and hatred displayed here by I-Right-I is astonishing. It’s hard to imagine that cretins of that level are still slithering around. I will not reply to baseness; I suggest that he be shunned by all until he leaves to seek other lowlifes for association – perhaps at conservative web logs.
September 9th, 2005 at 12:08 amNo, I did.
September 9th, 2005 at 12:09 amLL,
September 9th, 2005 at 12:12 amIn my view, there is only one race – human.
Agreed, but we are talking about people who don’t believe that.
September 9th, 2005 at 12:14 amThey’re called conservatives.
September 9th, 2005 at 12:15 amYes, I know Walt.
September 9th, 2005 at 12:17 amSo, why are we turning up this storm?
September 9th, 2005 at 12:19 amI just left a comment and you questioned it’s relevance . That’s all, Walt. Nothing more.
September 9th, 2005 at 12:21 amLL,
September 9th, 2005 at 12:27 amI never querstioned any relevace, I just have an Access database with a lot of info since 9/11. Being unemployed leaves one with a lot of time to fool around.
relevance kids
September 9th, 2005 at 12:28 amWell, we have that in common. I am also unemployed at this time, but I have my kids to take care of.
September 9th, 2005 at 12:30 amLL,
September 9th, 2005 at 12:45 amThat’s tough. If you can do Unix, Access or VBasic, move to Jax or St. Pete. Otherwise, take a MS qualified course in C++, SQL, and VB. If you manage to grasp OOP, you can earn 60 grand a year at startup. Fiie years down the road, you’ll double that, if you pick up Unix and it’s mists.
Re: 117
September 9th, 2005 at 12:57 amThats Five years…
I-Right-I
September 9th, 2005 at 2:33 amwhat an a-hole. Your narrow minded bigoted spew is breathtaking. Going jungle? You racist sob, thank you
for your contribution it gives us insight into just how evil, hateful and hypocritial Bush facist followers are.
No doubt you would have sucked Hitler’s d**k
now stfu
Wow! Am I correct in thinking RIGHT is an Arian Nation nut case.? Think he has some serious issues and needs some anger management. To bad he can spell and write so well and like all racests wasting our time when he could be out recruiting for Bush…..Gees, we need to impeach the lot of them quick before they brain wash some more like this guy…..Sorry lost point again…..Blessings.
September 9th, 2005 at 2:44 amI think the government (for lack of a better term) employs these idiots.
After all when Dumbya the smarter was head of the CIA, he found this guy living in Egypt and took him to Bagdad, put him on the payroll and soon this guy was in power…. Sadam Hueisen….(forgive the spelling, as I am typing at a furious rate)
I think that I-WRONG-I is a spaun of the Nazi war criminals that the bush family deposited in America.
I always look to the end to see who posts, then I decide if I read….
That way I don’t spend valuable time reading troll posts and skel posts.
September 9th, 2005 at 3:34 am@58, over the top?
DO YOU SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING?
I guess it is a good thing you aren’t Jewish.
September 9th, 2005 at 3:35 amDe Lay…. Delay….
WHAT A COMIC ~!
September 9th, 2005 at 3:36 amre: 121, I don’t waste my “beautiful mind” thinking about these idiots……….
September 9th, 2005 at 3:40 amIf people are still dying in New Orleans, but the press isn’t allowed to talk about it, can Our Leader get back to his vacation? After all, being this incompetent is hard, hard work.
September 9th, 2005 at 4:00 am“Wow! Am I correct in thinking RIGHT is an Arian Nation nut case.? Think he has some serious issues and needs some anger management.”
Sharon, no sweetheart I’m not one of those guys. If you’ve ever checked out one of their sites like “Stormfront” you’d see they are a lot like you “Progressives”. They hate Bush, they hate Jews and they especially hate conservative Negro’s. Me? I don’t hate anyone. I’m just not too fond of Left Wing Walking Dead Losers and it doesn’t matter what color they are.
I’m not here to hate, I’m here to help you kids. Forgive me if I have a little fun in the process.
Good morning Losers! Here’s your thought for the day:
“I am beginning to believe that black people, no matter where in the world they are, cursed with a genetic predisposition to steal, murder, and create mayhem.â€
I didn’t say that, this guy did.
September 9th, 2005 at 7:25 amhttp://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20050902/cleisure/cleisure1.html
Comment by Stephan — September 8, 2005: “I-Right-I is extraordinarily prototypical. Ill-educated, heavily indebted, indigent, undoubtedly obese, oblivious to his own shortcomings, and yet preoccupied with the faults of others (or more specifically, segments of the population other than his own). Indignant, umbrageous, and unwilling to accept responsibility for his own (dire) socioeconomic predicament, Right-I languishes behind the counter at a retail chain, wondering aloud why others have eclipsed him.”
I-RIGHT-I’s just lonely – http://nopc.antares-dev.com/yabbse/index.php?board=8;action=display;threadid=15194;start=0
September 9th, 2005 at 7:53 amThis website is titled by its two main components:
THINK
PROGRESS
My assumption is that Mr. I-Right has never spent a single moment in the company of a group of black folks.
It is easy to judge a culture from the outside. It is more difficult to understand the reasons for the culture. Most like I-Right have chosen the latter.
Here are some typical quotes:
“They get (some percentage of points) on their placement tests”
“The government gives them money to open their businesses”
“My grandfather came off the boat. He pulled himself up by his boot-straps and made something of himself.”
And so forth and so on. . . Blabity blah blah. . .
First, you send your child to an urban public school. See if he or she comes home with any books, or if there is only one book for five to share.
I am a product of Philadelphia public school, and I pride myself on the fact that I educated myself as the conditions were horrid.
Second, there are no handouts. Ever hear of an ethnic enclave or a Kei? Ever hear of urban renewal loans? They are loans, not handouts.
Plus, how many check cashing places are in your neighborhood? How many pawn shops? How many liquor stores?
How many Barnes and Nobles are in the ghetto?
Third, that “off the boat” analogy is bunk and I am frankly sick of hearing it. Your granddad may have been poor at Ellis island, but he didn’t suffer from the affliction of being black when he wakes up in the morning and black when he goes to bed.
Did you ever hear of 40 acres and a mule? They never got any reparations for being enslaved for hundreds of years. Did you know that by the time southern blacks were permitted to enter the north to participate in the second industrial revolution, the market was inundated with Irish, Italian, and German immigrants? Did you know that you are more likely in your family’s second or third generation in America, ever hear “Irish Need Not Apply” like slogans when you go to find work?
Meanwhile, blacks are in their 13th to 15th generation and are still treated like second class citizens in many aspects of american culture. You remember that when you tighten your grip on your knapsack when a black man gets on your elevator.
Lastly, I’m white, I grew up in a black neighborhood and later a poor white neighborhood. I have heard all of that bunk all my life and I dispute it. Why can’t people who have never even had a black friend get past all of the lame excusses for their bigotry?
Let’s get on the stick people!
:)
September 9th, 2005 at 9:04 am“I-RIGHT-I’s just lonely – http://nopc.antares-dev.com/ yabbse/ index.php?board=8;action=display;threadid=15194;start=0 ”
Comment by Wendy — September 9, 2005 @ 7:53 am
There’s some truth to that Sugarpants. All of our Left Wing Losers are pretty much worn out. Is is WRONG to try and make some new friends? Hummmm?
September 9th, 2005 at 9:10 amIn addition, your comment on post #93 is incorrect.
Radical islam, or any other theocratic institution is strictly a right wing philosophy.
Leninist, Stalinist, and other left wing oppressive philosophies do unify religion to a singular form. However, it is done to remove the faith, devotin and principles of the religion as a system of control.
Your boy Bill O’reilly seems to share the same ignorance about the differences between Communism and Fascism.
Please research your statements before you post them.
Thanks!
September 9th, 2005 at 9:43 am(devotion)
September 9th, 2005 at 9:44 amYou-wrong-you doesn’t feel and believe what he posts.
September 9th, 2005 at 10:08 amHe just posts that crap to create an argument.
I think these people all show up at the same office, log on and start in. So that from one day to the next the person behind you-wrong or NED or red rotates from day to day.
I personally think that I-Right-I sounds hot, I bet he is known around the gym as the guy who can take anything up there, master of the “Guess what I have hidden in my ass” game. Buff, buzz cut, and always ready to go. Holy Crap, Jeff Gannon, is that you?
From the sounds of it, he is not bright at all, he is just a white guy who at some point was rebuffed by an African-American he had a crush on. Told him that they don’t go white, and guys. He has turned that rejection into racist hatred.
It is sad to see this level of stupidity pooling in the mind of one guy, but what do you expect, he sounds like a typical Bush.
September 9th, 2005 at 10:12 amDear Andrew,
Your comments excusing the recient ( and probably all ) behavior by the blacks of New Orleans is sickening.
The old, “Treated like second-class citizens..” or “They are so poor..” and the ever popular “They were slaves..” are nothign but pathetic excuses.
And pathetic excuses are all you have. Maybe there is a reason blacks are the way they are, and maybe it has nothing to do with some imagined “man” keeping them down.
Did you ever stop to think, or wonder, why every area IN THE WORLD with large populations of blacks were shitholes?
Please explain that to me.
Whitey must be doing some overtime.
September 9th, 2005 at 10:12 amWhat’d I tell ya, you-wrong just changed to jwolf.
September 9th, 2005 at 10:18 amWow Jane are you just I-Right-I in a dress now? I am right, you are not that smart at all…
Inside I-Right-I’s Head, “I know, I will use a diffrent name and that will make me look like I am right, and no one will know. Man Jim, you are so smart.”
September 9th, 2005 at 10:23 amHow clever Marq,
Did you come over form the DU?
Your insiteful comments sound like a flaming liberal.
The both of you fail to realize that Liberalism is the man that keeps blacks down.
Luckly, more and more are realizing it and jumping from the master’s plantation to a free and better life.
DU loser!
September 9th, 2005 at 10:25 am138
Please be more specific in your accusations.
Please cite factual examples of your opinion so I can reply. For example, what is your specific reason for your opinion that “every area IN THE WORLD with large populations of blacks were shitholes”
It is difficult to reply to baseless accusations. If you have some historical facts, please reply with them.
Thanks!
September 9th, 2005 at 10:29 amI-RIGHT-I is a raging pedophile……
September 9th, 2005 at 10:48 amJane, you go girl! etc., etc.
September 9th, 2005 at 10:54 amPlease be more specific in your accusations.
Please cite factual examples of your opinion so I can reply. For example, what is your specific reason for your opinion that “every area IN THE WORLD with large populations of blacks were shitholesâ€
It is difficult to reply to baseless accusations. If you have some historical facts, please reply with them.
Thanks!
Comment by Andrew
Andrew…this is easier…you name one that is not and we’ll go from there.
September 9th, 2005 at 10:55 am“How clever Marq,
Did you come over form the DU?
Your insiteful comments sound like a flaming liberal.”
Could be you’re right but if you are he won’t stay long. He’d not be able to handle a place that doesn’t delete every post made by a non-Moonbat.
I’ve got to hand it to these fine folks here at Think Communist. So far I’ve been unedited and frankly, I’m amazed and grateful. Thanks!
September 9th, 2005 at 10:59 amI would have named “one that is not [a fact]” if you would have supplied one in your posts. However, statements such as “every area IN THE WORLD with large populations of blacks were shitholes” and ” the fragility of civilized behavior among large numbers of blacks” are not facts. They are observations, which you are entitled to have. However, you have included no facts to give weight to your observations.
Anyway, I gave it my best shot, and now I have to get back to work.
My intention, I-Right, or JaneWolf, or whomever you wish to call yourself, was to have a sound debate about this issue. Forgive me for being harsh if i was with my “get on the stick” comment.
I’ll close with a request:
Please look up the history of the GI bill and research how many blacks were given this money at the end of the Second World War (I’ll give you a hint, the answer is 1 less than 1.)
Once equipped with this knowledge, please look at the history of interstate development and suburban sprawl and research the reason so many descendents of the Caucacus Mountains were enabled to leave the cities. Lastly, research who was left without the means and therefore remained in the cities.
Debate is a quest to gain consensus by fusing the commonalities of conflicting ideas using factual representation. In the absence of fact, there is no debate.
Thanks for trying anyway. . .
Take care
September 9th, 2005 at 11:06 amDebts are mounting, aren’t they, Right-I? Supplemental income diminishing, huh? Can’t even purchase the bare necessities for your (undoubtedly hideous) wife and children? Auto’s in need of repair, waistline continues to expand, and life is passing you by. Prospects for the future are pretty bleak, are they not? Fulminate all you wish, Right-I – your life will remain DISMAL nonetheless. Just purchased several hundred dollars worth of garments, Right-I – and I did it just for you. Just to undermine your confidence even FURTHER. Have fun behind the counter, my reactionary friend.
September 9th, 2005 at 12:38 pm“Just purchased several hundred dollars worth of garments, Right-I – and I did it just for you. Just to undermine your confidence even FURTHER. Have fun behind the counter, my reactionary friend.”
Steve. I’m betting you stole those “several hundred” dollars worth of ? tennis shoes?
September 9th, 2005 at 1:46 pmMany dreadful, but enlightning posts. First, right, I am not you Sweet heart and will barely respond here to your venom since I don’t associate with lieing, thieves, bigots and Delay types no matter what they spew, it all sounds like Nazi crap to me. This old libral is part of the building a better America and world. May I add in closing a quote from Bill Cosby in one of his show’s some years ago. “I brought you into this world and I can take you out.”…..
September 9th, 2005 at 2:37 pmHey Right-I – perhaps you and that slattern you’re married to can dine at Outback Steakhouse this evening. It is all you can afford, after all. Perhaps you can plead with the retailer for a increase in your meager income. Or you can do what most disgruntled, feckless, underemployed white males do – wallow in self-pity 24 hours a day. ANYTHING but assume some responsibility for your plight. That would be unthinkable.
September 9th, 2005 at 2:50 pmHey Right-I – perhaps you and that slattern you’re married to can dine at Outback Steakhouse this evening.
I’m single Steve…you wanted to know, right? Also, I don’t have a problem with Outback…luv me some of dem greasy onions, yes I do but here in Texas only the numbnuts actually go out and buy a steak out.
You seem preoccupied by my financials. That tells me you’re welfare already ran out and it’s a long way to the first of the month. As a former ghetto dweller (I assume former) I would have thought you learned from your mistakes. I guess not.
September 9th, 2005 at 3:07 pm“This old liberal is part of the building a better America and world.”
Well I just can’t believe that you are very old Sugarpants. It’s not that common to find a person that’s lived to be “old” who has failed to see what is behind this “Progressive” movement and where it is leading our country. But then again there is that harridan Cindy Sheehan. She is certainly no spring chicken is she? She is absolutely heartless if not outright insane for using the memory of her slain hero son the way she has. Thank God she is last month’s news.
You on the other hand don’t have a dead son to hide behind do you? What is your excuse for aligning yourself with the fringe lunatic arm of the Party of Death? You’re going to build a better world? You’re going to get us all killed, that’s what you’re working toward. Oh wait, most of your fellow traveling friends want exactly that don’t they? Perhaps you’re a traitor. I wonder if the FBI has your number yet?
Be afraid losers, be very afraid.
September 9th, 2005 at 3:17 pmDon’t cry, son, we’ll find out who your daddy is.
September 9th, 2005 at 3:21 pmBring me home a pack of kents will you?
I understand there is a sale underway at Big Lots, Right-I. Given your increasingly bleak situation, perhaps you should take advantage? Of course, affluent ethnic minorities like myself don’t have to fret about socioeconomic concerns. But lackeys like yourself must struggle to cope. Shame is it not?
September 9th, 2005 at 4:37 pmMay I suggest a time out ( go to your cave ) for the spoiled right wing extremest nazis spewing hate. I’m now and have always been for the people and my country. I have given my children for this country and now there is no family left but me. Right and all others like you….Get Stuffed.
September 9th, 2005 at 4:37 pm“What is your excuse for aligning yourself with the fringe lunatic arm of the Party of Death? ”
Party of death? You mean the republican war, poverty, exploitation, greed and propagation of WMDs and Terrorists around the world machine? We’re democrats – you’re from the party of death… I’m against war, the death penalty and all of those death causes you slurp up like the greedy fascist that you are…
September 9th, 2005 at 5:20 pm“I’m single Steve…you wanted to know, right? ”
Of course you are. The disgruntled terrorists who slammed into the world trade center were as well. They were just as hate filled, unsocialized, and unacceptable to women as you are. Your hatred of women and ‘liberals’ probably means that only some stupid ann coulter freak would be available for you – hopefully she’s infertile so you’ll never reproduce… Obviously your gene line has hit a wall…
September 9th, 2005 at 5:22 pm“You’re going to get us all killed, that’s what you’re working toward.”
And yet as a republican you belong to the party that overthrew democracies in Chile and Argentina and any number of other countries to put in fascists. You sold plutonium reactors to a dictator in Iran. You sold Chemical weapons to a dictator in Iraq. You trained and funded a religious right wing fascist zealot and in the process created AlQueda. And you have the stupid gaul to accuse us of risking death in america?
Your party has done more to risk the lives of americans than they should have ever had the ability or right to do so. Many times they did this covertly, or through executive order without the approval of congress or the american people. Your dicatorship style of governance has always been fascist in nature, only recently through voter fraud have you been able to incorporate congress into that dictatorship…
But if they’re is anyone who risks american lives, it’s radical fascists like you!!!!
As for the FBI, I have friends in all of the branches – you aren’t the ONLY party with folks still in those organizations you know. And not everyone there is as much of a crazy zealot checked out whack job as you are. Although from my experience the incompetent ones tend to be just like you…
September 9th, 2005 at 5:27 pmVery good Ryan, Marie and all the others on the left. The house of Bush is starting to fall. I’m not wasting my time with the nazis and nut cases any more. They are in their death throws when all their foul language and hate is directed at us. Blessings…Small baby steps as Marie said are starting.
September 9th, 2005 at 6:22 pm“They are observations, which you are entitled to have. However, you have included no facts to give weight to your observations.”
Translation: “Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes”. Idiot
September 9th, 2005 at 8:06 pm“I have given my children for this country and now there is no family left but me.”
I gave you an opening I knew you would take. I think your not just mentally deficient and morally corrupt, I think you’re an opportunistic liar. Liar.
There is nothing more tragic than a woman bent and disturbed by her own foul life spreading misery on top of misery and calling it her patriotic duty.
“They are in their death throws when all their foul language and hate is directed at us.”
Every one of you who have contributed to the discord adding your toxic breath to the carnage during this time of national crises and monumental suffering will pay a dear price for your arrogance and hatred. You’ll pay now and I mean soon, and later. Unless of course God has mercy on you and I can’t in good conscience wish He will not. Nope, cancel that. I do wish you get what you deserve, I guess that’s a difference between God and me.
September 9th, 2005 at 9:24 pm“Although from my experience the incompetent ones tend to be just like you…”
You’ve had no real experience Neato outside these Moonbat caves. What little you actually think you know is all wrong.
Guys like you are the reason we win. You have nothing to offer but your own hopelessness in the celebration of filth. You got that from the Euroweasels. You learned well.
September 9th, 2005 at 9:31 pm“There is nothing more tragic than a woman bent and disturbed by her own foul life spreading misery on top of misery and calling it her patriotic duty.”
And MrWrong wonders why he’s single? Mysogeny is usually the result of an unhealthy childhood – and it’s clear that your unhealthy relationship with women is deep seed and psychotic. Get some help you creepy loser!
“Guys like you are the reason we win. ”
Actually guys like you who are willing to lie, cheat, hate, still and rig elections are the only reason you ever win – and that’s always transient. Oppressive dictators, and fascism always falls eventually…
September 9th, 2005 at 10:09 pm“Unless of course God has mercy on you and I can’t in good conscience wish He will not. ”
Actually you better hope if god has mercy it’s for you. Your hatred, and disgusting disregard for the truth are truly unchristian, and ungodly. You are evil incarnate…
September 9th, 2005 at 10:10 pmI do hope He has mercy on me. This little visit with you and yours has taxed every Christian prohibition I hold to be important. I have failed not to hate. But in my confession there’s another way to look at this. To love God is to love what He loves and hate what He hates. He most certainly hates what you people stand for. Ah, that’s better. I had me worried there for a second.
September 9th, 2005 at 10:23 pm“Unless of course God has mercy on you and I can’t in good conscience wish He will not. ”
You’re not a christian, you don’t even know what that means… Christ was a pascifist. When presented with the choice of picking up arms and freeing his people from an occupying army, or being a pascifist, he chose pascifism. If CONservatives even slightly understood the meanings of christianity, they’d realize they are the very creatures christ warned everyone to avoid! You have allowed the voice of evil, selfishness and hatred become your conscious – and you’ve lost your soul and your humanity. The fact that you’re more concerned with bush’s image, and poor people when christ DEMANDED that everyone have compassion for and donate to the poor should clue you in that your a stupid non-christian. But like most people who are truly evil – I’m sure you believe you aren’t…
September 9th, 2005 at 10:42 pmI don’t ‘hate’ you MrWrong, although I’m sure you must hate me for the light I shine on your stupid fantasy. I feel pity for what a pathetic creature you are, and the fact that you’re in the grip of your own worse/evil impulses and are clueless to this… Maybe god will have mercy for you based on your utter ignorance…
September 9th, 2005 at 10:44 pmAnd MrWrong, Next time you’re searching for who’s evil, ask who sold plutonium reactors, weapons of mass destruction, or funded illegal wars using illegal drug sales to america’s poor. In all of those cases, it was republicans. You and your party are so evil, you actually believe you’re good. That’s what’s so sad about all of you. Your psychotic break is truly complete…
September 9th, 2005 at 10:46 pmRyan you are on target on so many posts! You give the trolls a debate they have to test their brains to defend — and they can’t do it. Their arguments are false and their brains are too small.
September 10th, 2005 at 12:24 amNever feed the trolls.
Scan the post, and ignore if they are trolls. Keep them busy changing names. I can’t waste my “beautiful mind” trying to talk sense to them.
(bet the beautiful mind thing will torque them off)
I think things here are working wonderfully for them, as the trolls are underpriveliged anyway….
(strike two)
Bush family Katrina comments draw scrutiny
September 10th, 2005 at 4:04 am“You’re not a christian, you don’t even know what that means…”
Ryan, I can’t be bothered to pass pearls to the pigs. I can’t take the time to point out why our Lord had as much to say about God’s vengeance than God’s mercy or that He in His life was no limp wristed pacifist. Should He decide to return during your miserable lifetime you’ll find that out for yourself.
Why do “mostly Hindu” or Fundy-atheist losers always lay claim to some sort of superior understanding of the faith they hate? You know very little and understand even less. Your true talent lies in the perpetuation of the lie, like your father who is a liar.
September 10th, 2005 at 7:43 amHey, I-Right-I
#161
I’m not all that concerned whether you think I am an “Idiot” or not.
If calling me such makes you feel better about your lack of factual knowledge, so be it. However, by your quick jump to personal insults, you only make my point clearer.
Thanks for that!
Please thank him, everyone. He has defeated himself.
September 10th, 2005 at 1:20 pmhttp://rawstory.com/news/2005/Newsweek_flash_Bush_approval_38_57_have_lost_confidence_in_U.S._to_deal_with__0910.html
How sweet it is.
September 10th, 2005 at 1:37 pm“And MrWrong, Next time you’re searching for who’s evil, ask who sold plutonium reactors, weapons of mass destruction, or funded illegal wars using illegal drug sales to america’s poor.”
comment by Neato
Answer: Bill Clinton who was up to his eyeballs in drug smuggling in Arkansas along with his idiot brother. Who sold US State secrets to the Red Chinese and bombed the wrong side in the Balkans. Not to mention the 60 some mysterious deaths of people he had direct contact with not including Ron Brown whom he probably had murdered as well. I’m up on all the conspiracy shit too loser.
September 10th, 2005 at 5:32 pmAnswer: Bill Clinton who was up to his eyeballs in drug smuggling in Arkansas along with his idiot brother. Who sold US State secrets to the Red Chinese and bombed the wrong side in the Balkans. Not to mention the 60 some mysterious deaths of people he had direct contact with not including Ron Brown whom he probably had murdered as well. I’m up on all the conspiracy shit too loser.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 10, 2005
Ooooooooo! Tin Foil Hat!
September 11th, 2005 at 2:00 pmI do hope He has mercy on me. This little visit ith you and yours has taxed every Christian prohibition I hold to be important. I have failed not to hate. But in my confession there’s another way to look at this. To love God is to love what He loves and hate what He hates. He most certainly hates what you people stand for. Ah, that’s better. I had me worried there for a second.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 9, 2005 @ 10:23 pm
So few KKKhristians, still not enough lions…
September 11th, 2005 at 2:02 pmLook em up, phony KKKristian. You going to hell!
No one disputes the faith of our Founding Fathers. To speak of unalienable Rights being endowed by a Creator certainly shows a sensitivity to our spiritual selves. What is surprising is when fundamentalist Christians think the Founding Fathers’ faith had anything to do with the Bible. Without exception, the faith of our Founding Fathers was deist, not theist. It was best expressed earlier in the Declaration of Independence, when they spoke of “the Laws of Nature” and of “Nature’s God.”
In a sermon of October 1831, Episcopalian minister Bird Wilson said,
Among all of our Presidents, from Washington downward, not one was a professor of religion, at least not of more than Unitarianism.
The Bible? Here is what our Founding Fathers wrote about Bible-based Christianity:
Thomas Jefferson:
I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth.
SIX HISTORIC AMERICANS,
by John E. Remsburg, letter to William Short
Jefferson again:
Christianity…(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. …Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus.
More Jefferson:
The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves…these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ.
Jefferson’s word for the Bible?
Dunghill.
John Adams:
Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?
Also Adams:
The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity.
Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli. Article 11 states:
The Government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.
Here’s Thomas Paine:
I would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching His name to that book (the Bible).
Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses. Here is an order, attributed to ‘God’ to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and to debauch and rape the daughters. I would not dare so dishonor my Creator’s name by (attaching) it to this filthy book (the Bible).
It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible.
Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins…and you will have sins in abundance.
The Christian church has set up a religion of pomp and revenue in pretended imitation of a person (Jesus) who lived a life of poverty.
Finally let’s hear from James Madison:
What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.
Madison objected to state-supported chaplains in Congress and to the exemption of churches from taxation. He wrote:
Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.
These founding fathers were a reflection of the American population. Having escaped from the state-established religions of Europe, only 7% of the people in the 13 colonies belonged to a church when the Declaration of Independence was signed.
Among those who confuse Christianity with the founding of America, the rise of conservative Baptists is one of the more interesting developments. The Baptists believed God’s authority came from the people, not the priesthood, and they had been persecuted for this belief. It was they—the Baptists—who were instrumental in securing the separation of church and state. They knew you can not have a “one-way wall” that lets religion into government but that does not let it out. They knew no religion is capable of handling political power without becoming corrupted by it. And, perhaps, they knew it was Christ himself who first proposed the separation of church and state: Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and unto the Lord that which is the Lord’s.
In the last five years the Baptists have been taken over by a fundamentalist faction that insists authority comes from the Bible and that the individual must accept the interpretation of the Bible from a higher authority. These usurpers of the Baptist faith are those who insist they should meddle in the affairs of the government and it is they who insist the government should meddle in the beliefs of individuals.
The price of Liberty is constant vigilance. Religious fundamentalism and zealous patriotism have always been the forces which require the greatest attention.
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Editor’s Note: This page was first posted in 1995. Since then we’ve received volumes of mail from politically conservative Christians supplying us with quotes from public speeches made by the authors above. While most of these author politicians were diplomatic in their public expressions concerning religion, in their private conversations, voluminous writings and correspondences they expressed contrary beliefs.
Which beliefs are true? If a politician appears one way in public and another in private, which do you think better represents their true beliefs? How do you reconcile the inflamatory writings above with various pro-Christian statements that the same men made in public over the course of their careers? Could it be called “politics,” an attempt to appease Christians while ensuring a more rational government based on the separation of church and state? It certainly seems that way.
In addition, the Editor does not recognize any religious intentions of the so-called “Founding Fathers” as relevant to discussions of political process today. As a descendent of Native Americans the editor understands that America had already been “found.” The “Christian” beliefs of a handful of landed, white, male aristocracy enslaving blacks and murdering Native Americans hold little credibility and should be dumped along with the notions of slavery we so wisely dispensed with on January 1, 1863.
Photo credit: Sheila Sharkey. 25th anniversary of the Gay Freedom Day Parade in Washington, D.C., Spring, 1994.
References: The writings of Thomas Jefferson exist in 25 volumes. The references for this article were found in the book, SIX HISTORIC AMERICANS, by John E. Remsburg (who interviewed many of Lincoln’s associates). Much of his work on Jefferson came from THE MEMOIRS, CORRESPONDENCE AND MISCELLANIES FROM THE PAPERS OF THOMAS JEFFERSON, 4 volumes ed. by Thomas Jefferson Randolph (the grandson of Thomas Jefferson).
September 11th, 2005 at 2:05 pmComment by I-RIGHT-I
It’s a little thing called snopes, moron. Everyone of those “rumors” about Clinton has been debunked. You either know that but don’t care,which means you are a theo-fascist American taliban, or you a complete idiot. No, you probably are both.
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=Clinton&sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&sp-advanced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100&sp-m=1&sp-s=0
September 11th, 2005 at 2:09 pmThanks Tin Foil..I know about Snopes. Sometimes he’s right sometimes he’s wrong and I’ve seen this page before. What’s amazing to me about this particular Snopes account is the near zero corroborating data he uses to come to his conclusions. “FALSE”. I mean this guy must have secret information about 60 deaths that even the local authorities didn’t have.
He uses every logical fallacy in the book in his DEFENSE of your President and I’m sure that’s good enough for you but relax, I only mentioned all those mysterious and coincidental deaths in passing. Actually I think murder is a President’s prerogative. Lyndon Johnson for example killed a whole passel of Kennedy’s. I just wish George would get with the program. I think Teddy needs to go, don’t you? It would be nice for once to have the bad guys “disappeared”. Wouldn’t it?
September 11th, 2005 at 6:44 pmTom Delay is the product of dried rat cum irradiated by microwavable period blood. I know this. I invented the recipe.
Bar
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October 10th, 2005 at 3:39 pmEveryone has there day in court lets see what really happens!
Andrew Hillman
October 15th, 2005 at 1:06 amProgram on the emergence of civilization.
“14 species of large animals capable of domesitcation in the history of mankind.
13 from Europe, Asia and northern Africa.
None from the sub-Saharan African continent. ”
Favor.
And disfavor.
They point out Africans’ failed attempts to domesticate the elephant and zebra, the latter being an animal they illustrate that had utmost importance for it’s applicability in transformation from a hunting/gathering to agrarian-based civilization.
The roots of racism are not of this earth.
Austrailia, aboriginals:::No domesticable animals.
The North American continent had none. Now 99% of that population is gone.
AIDS in Africa.
Organizational Heirarchy/Levels of positioning.
Heirarchical order, from top to bottom:
1. MUCK – perhaps have experienced multiple universal contractions (have seen multiple big bangs), creator of the artificial intelligence humans ignorantly refer to as “god”
2. Perhaps some mid-level alien management
3. Evil/disfavored aliens – runs day-to-day operations here and perhaps elsewhere
Terrestrial management/positioning:
4. Chinese/egyptians – this may be separated into the eastern and western worlds
5. Romans –
6. Mafia – the real-world 20th century interface that constantly turns over generationally so as to reinforce the widely-held notion of mortality
7. Jews, corporation, women, politician – Evidence exisits to suggest mafia management over all these groups.
Movies foreshadowing catastrophy
1985 James Bond View to a Kill 1989 San Francisco Loma Prieta earthquake.
Our society gives clues to the system in place. We all have heard the saying “He has more money than god.” There is also an episode of the Simpsons where god meets Homer and says “I’m too old and rich for this.”
This is the system on earth because this is the system everywhere.
I don’t want to suggest the upper eschelons are evil and good is the fringe.
But they have made it abundantly clear that doing business with evil (disfavored) won’t help people. They say only good would have the ear, since evil is struggling for survival, and therefore only the favored could help.
The clues are there which companies are favored and which are disfavored, but they conceal it very hard because it is so crucial.
I offer an example of historical proportions:::
People point to Walmart and cry “anti-union”.
Unions enable disfavored people to live satisfactorly without addressing their disfavor. This way their family’s problems are never resolved. Without the union they would have to accept the heirarchy, their own inferiority.
Unions serve to empower.
Walmart is anti-union because they are good. They try to help people address and resolve their problems by creating an enviornment where there are fewer hurdles.
Media ridicule and lawsuits are creations to reinforce people’s belief that Walmart is evil in a subsegment of the indistry dominated by the middle and lower classes.
Low-cost disfavored Chinese labor is utilized by corporate america to maximize margins. They all do it. Only WalMart gets fingered because they are the ones who help, and those who seek to create confusion in the marketplace want to eliminate the vast middle class who have a real chance and instead stick with lower classes who may not work otherwise. So they dirty him up while allowing the others to appear clean.
The middle class is being deceived. They are being misled into the unfavored, and subsequently will have no assistance from their purchases with corporate america.
I believe the coining of the term “Uncle Sam” was a clue alluding to just this::Sam Walton and WalMart is one of few saviors of the peasant class.
Amercia is a country of castoffs, rejects. Italy sent its criminals, malcontents.
Between the thrones, the klans and kindred, they “decided” who they didn’t want and acted, creating discontent and/or starvation.
The u.s. is full of disfavored rejects. It is the reason for the myriad of problems not found in European countries. As far as the Rockafellers and other industrialists of the 19th century go, I suspect these aren’t their real names. I suspect they were chosen to go and head this new empire.
Royalty is the right way to organize a society. Dictatorships and monarchies are a reflection of the antient’s hierarchical organization.
Positions go to those who have favor with the rulers, as opposed to being elected.
Elections bring a false sense of how the world is. Democracy misleads people.
Which is why the disfavored rejects were sent to the shores of America::To keep them on the wrong path.
Jews maim the body formed in the image of “god”, and inflicted circumsision upon all other white people, as well as the evil that is Jesus Christ.
I think about how Jews (were used to) created homosexuality among Slavics, retribution for the Holocaust.
Then I think of the Catholic Church and its troubles.
What connection is here between Jews and the Catholic church???
If it is their sinister motives that’s behind the evil that is Jesus Christ are they being used at all?
Perhaps it is them who are pulling strings.
Their centuries of slavery in Egypt proves their disfavor.
The Jew leaders decided to prey on the up-and-coming Europeans to try to fix their problems with the ruling elite, a recurring aspect of the elite’s methodology.
Jesus Christ is a religious figure of evil. The seperatist churches formed so they could still capture the rest of the white people, keeping them worshipping the wrong god.
And now they do it to people of color, Latinos and Asians, after centuries of preying upon them.
Since Buddism doesn’t recongnize a god, the calls are never heard, and Chinese representation is instead selected by the thrones.
Budda was the Asian’s Jesus Christ::: bad for the people. “They came up at the same time for a reason.”
Simpson’s foreshadowing::Helloween IV special, Flanders is Satan. “Last one you ever suspect.”
“You’ll see lots of nuns where you’re going:::hell!!!” St. Wigham, Helloween VI, missionary work, destroying cultures.
Over and over, the Simpsons was a source of education and enlightenment, a target of ridicule by the system which wishes to conceal its secrets.
I believe Islam is the one true religion, and those misled christians who attack “god”’s most favored people will pay dearly one day.
November 30th, 2005 at 1:16 amhttp://media.familyrights.us/expose/ExposeV2005.pdf
March 23rd, 2006 at 11:44 amThe Corrupters work the opposite way! They put propapanda and bilk public to pay for it! SEE!
They been exposed for their deeds! Republican Way!
http://www.house.gov/georgemiller/press/re/21306.html
We switched parties because the Republicans Eat their own …………..if they can make money off you and use you as a fund raiser they will!
We have a National movement to out all Corrupt Republicans and their backers and boycott their dirty backers too! Also outing dirty Democrats but the Republicans are in first place by a country mile on Corruption!
Vote on Unelection Day! Out the corrupters! Look at propaganda to trick public!
They say opposite of truth! Don’t take our word READ! Happy Corrupter and Happy Unelection Day! Maybe he can move into the 9th Ward and live in Phenomenal neighborhood and legislate the neighborhood!
March 30th, 2006 at 10:23 amHere is how their NETWORK WORKS!
http://www.txcfr.org/M.pdf
* ON JUNE 6, 2003, gave speech with same Judge in San Antonio Texas!!!
See you been duped! TRICKED by Republicans!
March 31st, 2006 at 10:18 amLook at this Phenemenal Russian Communist neighborhood!
http://news.com/commentary/2005/04/18/adoption.shtml
Who has been taking dirty trips to Russia!
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/02/23/abramoff_ties_to_russians_probed/
April 1st, 2006 at 9:24 amRepublicans against Republican/Communist! We been duped and infiltrated. We backed them they duped us and used us! We know where the IRON FIST Totalitarian style idea came from now………….they the COMMUNIST INFILTRATED REPUBLICAN PARTY! http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/01/04/to_russia_love_tom_delay.php
Republicans against Republican Communist Party! Vote them out!
April 16th, 2006 at 9:51 amTHEY ” CUT AND RANT THE REPUBLICAN’TS” ” they CUT AND RAN THE REPUBLICANS”
June 17th, 2006 at 9:51 amHI
August 5th, 2006 at 12:36 pmOr turning away food and water so the Superdome doesn’t draw more people. Oh wait, that was the states fault again, lets not mention that either.
November 20th, 2006 at 5:24 amAs for the efforts that have been taking place, we should be applauding, not complaining. The rescuers are people too. The equipment they use is not indestructable. Under a “manditory evacuation,†are they supposed to remain in the storm? They, like everyone else had to seek shelter.
Tom Delay showed up on June 6, 2004 with the Head of Lutheran Social Services Senske the lawyer who has the biggest foster care contract in Texas and Lutheran Social Services manages Tom Delays foster homes in Forst Bend, to thwarth a Congressional Investigation into massive fostercare fraud and fake death reports!!! Well, at least we finally found out why they covered it up (THE DEAD CHILDREN), cuz they passed legislation to take LIFE INSURANCE OUT ON FOSTER CARE CHILDREN and hid it in the Veterans bill and stuck it at the end under option C, (which I believe is illegal), of course they did it after getting the life insurance money from companies, then they upped limits 500% the following year!!! Yes they stuck it in PA 105-311, take a look! I guess they had to FALSIFY the reports to COVER UP the DEAD KIDS, they KILL using the MEDS!!! They catergory the deaths under NATURAL CAUSES/MEDICAL! Yes, you tend to DIE when drugged to death poisoining by MEDS!!! Oh, the KEYE TV investigation in Austin, TX where they fed foster care kids drugs cuz they are in fostercare that are NOT recommended for adults or by FDA cause death when taken together. Learn about the NAZI program in the 1930’s on social poor and minority the T4 program which was named after the location on a MAP was for the adults but the used the drugging of children first with drugs. Also I noticed the TMAP program that the STATE of Texas ran around and lobbied 13 other states onto for the MEDICAID/MEDICARE drug program, the gut in the TEXAS STATE GOVT took $2 million and is still NOT ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR MONEY AND STILL UNCHARGED.
I like the name TMAP…..someone has a sense of history, GERMAN history. I was wondering the T4 program in the 1930’s what position on the MAP made them name it T4 if you know post it! I guess the Germans ethnic cleanse this way, well I guess these guys get paid now to KILL THEM, like on the video with the TEXAS STATE employees killing the child on the video, WHAT DO THEY DO WITH EXTRA LIFE INSURANCE MONEY!??? JUST WONDERING, and if STATE AUDITS say! 1.) Misappropriation 2.) Backdating 3,) Know way of knowing services billed ever provided .
* How does the politically connected group foster home collect the money and WHERE DOES REST OF MONEY GO, They are giving really cheap FUNERALS for the kids! Also do the politically connected group foster homes give to GOP CAMPAIGNS, because if more kids die doesn’t that mean the GOP gets more money if it is given to them???
December 31st, 2006 at 11:05 amHere is their interest in foster care!
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/judi_chaseII.htm
http://www.familyrightsassociation.com
http://www.liftingtheveil.org/falsification.htm
http://www.sierratimes.com/02/10/18/ednm101802.htm
Tom DeLay took money from Non Profits………its a scam guys and girls!
Texas State Audits for foster care Contractors!
January 23rd, 2007 at 5:59 pm1.) Misaapropriation
2.) Backdating
3.) No way of knowing services billed ever provided.