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		<title>By: Think Progress &#187; Hutchinson: Indictments Should Be â€œOn a Crime and Not Some Perjury Technicalityâ€</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Progress &#187; Hutchinson: Indictments Should Be â€œOn a Crime and Not Some Perjury Technicalityâ€</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] September 12: Michael Brown Resigns From FEMA. [Link] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Spudge-Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spudge-Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMFG

I just got a CNN Breaking News e-mail with this body:

&quot;President Bush says he takes responsibility for the federal government&#039;s failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMFG</p>
<p>I just got a CNN Breaking News e-mail with this body:</p>
<p>&#8220;President Bush says he takes responsibility for the federal government&#8217;s failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=133193', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Phil Mockel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Mockel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Brown Swept Under the Rug with Resignation?

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said it clearly. â€œMichael Brown&#039;s departure from FEMA is long overdue, and his resignation is the right thing for the country and for the people of the Gulf Coast states.â€

It is indeed. It is also the best thing for George W. Bush and his cronies going into the 2006 elections. With Brown gone, will there be anything left outside the south to remind us about the gross incompetence loosed on our citizens in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

The mismanagement of the war in Iraq and the deaths caused by that mismanagement, not to mention the outright lies from the Bush White House, were successfully carted off in one swift boat campaign. America forgot the ongoing incompetence in the wake of 9/11 and succumbed to the glitz of the Rove media machine, re-electing the worst president in our nationâ€™s history.

How many lives did the Bush political â€œgood olâ€™ boysâ€ cost this time? How many could have been saved by the appointment of a capable and experienced emergency manager instead of the college roommate of an old Bush campaign manager? Could we have saved 100, 500, or maybe even 1000 more when the storm came in?

The fringe of the Bush team sure looked after their people. Kellogg, Brown and Root was right there at the front of the line, rewarded with yet more no-bid contracts by the government. The investigations of their mismanagement in Iraq is still under scrutiny (I hope); but still Bush and the Gang were willing to make them their first choice on the Gulf.

What about the lives and money that could have been saved by putting real experts in charge of strengthening those all important levees? What could have been saved by spending what was needed, instead of doing it on the cheap; so yet more money could be poured into the Bush political war and the coffers of Cheneyâ€™s beloved Halliburton Corp? 

Michael Brown worries me even when he is resigning. In resigning Brown told the press it was best for FEMA and best for the president that he step aside. â€œThe focus has got to be on FEMA, what the people are trying to do down there.â€ Why do I get the feeling this is a tailored Karl Rove written line? This worries me because just the other day someone pulled the string on Scott McClellanâ€™s back and sent him out in front of the press. All he could say was the focus must be on what the people are trying to do down there. He did add that it was not time for the blame game.

It is not time for the blame game until we get everything straightened out and the recovery is complete, right? How long will that be Scotty? Will it be 5 years, 10 years, maybe never? Wouldnâ€™t that suit Rove and the conservative spin doctors? Heck, they could get all the oil wells going again, get gas to $5.00 per gallon, get all the Democratic poor gone in the Gulf States and get Bill Frist elected president before anyone even has to say excuse me. 

We cannot forget Michael Brown and what happened with Katrina, just as we cannot forget what happened on 9/11. No, I donâ€™t want Brownâ€™s head on a platter. He is just a stooge for the real power brokers in the Bush Administration. We need to get to the heart of who put him there in the first place.

When the twin towers fell, Bush was reading â€œMy Pet Goat.â€ He seemed to make no move to execute the office of president.

When Katrina hit he was on vacation, then went to raise funds for a political buddy instead of doing his job. How many more times are we going to allow this to go on without a real public accounting? 

Bush, Chernoff, Brown and all the others involved in the Bush shortchanging of America need to be brought before the people and judged. We the people have a right to know. It is not unpatriotic to demand truthful and complete answers to questions it is our civic duty to ask. 

We cannot let this resignation swept all the lives that lay in ruin because of conservative politics under the rug again. Osama Bin Laden kills 3,000 and the country unites in a cry for justice. Conservative presidential politics kills twice that many, can we ask for anything less?

Phil Mockel
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Brown Swept Under the Rug with Resignation?</p>
<p>House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said it clearly. â€œMichael Brown&#8217;s departure from FEMA is long overdue, and his resignation is the right thing for the country and for the people of the Gulf Coast states.â€</p>
<p>It is indeed. It is also the best thing for George W. Bush and his cronies going into the 2006 elections. With Brown gone, will there be anything left outside the south to remind us about the gross incompetence loosed on our citizens in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.</p>
<p>The mismanagement of the war in Iraq and the deaths caused by that mismanagement, not to mention the outright lies from the Bush White House, were successfully carted off in one swift boat campaign. America forgot the ongoing incompetence in the wake of 9/11 and succumbed to the glitz of the Rove media machine, re-electing the worst president in our nationâ€™s history.</p>
<p>How many lives did the Bush political â€œgood olâ€™ boysâ€ cost this time? How many could have been saved by the appointment of a capable and experienced emergency manager instead of the college roommate of an old Bush campaign manager? Could we have saved 100, 500, or maybe even 1000 more when the storm came in?</p>
<p>The fringe of the Bush team sure looked after their people. Kellogg, Brown and Root was right there at the front of the line, rewarded with yet more no-bid contracts by the government. The investigations of their mismanagement in Iraq is still under scrutiny (I hope); but still Bush and the Gang were willing to make them their first choice on the Gulf.</p>
<p>What about the lives and money that could have been saved by putting real experts in charge of strengthening those all important levees? What could have been saved by spending what was needed, instead of doing it on the cheap; so yet more money could be poured into the Bush political war and the coffers of Cheneyâ€™s beloved Halliburton Corp? </p>
<p>Michael Brown worries me even when he is resigning. In resigning Brown told the press it was best for FEMA and best for the president that he step aside. â€œThe focus has got to be on FEMA, what the people are trying to do down there.â€ Why do I get the feeling this is a tailored Karl Rove written line? This worries me because just the other day someone pulled the string on Scott McClellanâ€™s back and sent him out in front of the press. All he could say was the focus must be on what the people are trying to do down there. He did add that it was not time for the blame game.</p>
<p>It is not time for the blame game until we get everything straightened out and the recovery is complete, right? How long will that be Scotty? Will it be 5 years, 10 years, maybe never? Wouldnâ€™t that suit Rove and the conservative spin doctors? Heck, they could get all the oil wells going again, get gas to $5.00 per gallon, get all the Democratic poor gone in the Gulf States and get Bill Frist elected president before anyone even has to say excuse me. </p>
<p>We cannot forget Michael Brown and what happened with Katrina, just as we cannot forget what happened on 9/11. No, I donâ€™t want Brownâ€™s head on a platter. He is just a stooge for the real power brokers in the Bush Administration. We need to get to the heart of who put him there in the first place.</p>
<p>When the twin towers fell, Bush was reading â€œMy Pet Goat.â€ He seemed to make no move to execute the office of president.</p>
<p>When Katrina hit he was on vacation, then went to raise funds for a political buddy instead of doing his job. How many more times are we going to allow this to go on without a real public accounting? </p>
<p>Bush, Chernoff, Brown and all the others involved in the Bush shortchanging of America need to be brought before the people and judged. We the people have a right to know. It is not unpatriotic to demand truthful and complete answers to questions it is our civic duty to ask. </p>
<p>We cannot let this resignation swept all the lives that lay in ruin because of conservative politics under the rug again. Osama Bin Laden kills 3,000 and the country unites in a cry for justice. Conservative presidential politics kills twice that many, can we ask for anything less?</p>
<p>Phil Mockel<br />
thekickingdonkey.com<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132793', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: impeach-o-rama</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/12/brown-resigns-he-should-have-been-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-132668</link>
		<dc:creator>impeach-o-rama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone checked the new guy&#039;s resume?</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Neat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Neat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt/Marie,

Thanks for the info on the wages.  I only saw the blurb once, and it listed the $9 wage - not sure where that number came from.  It must have been a specific classification that the person who reported it was aware of in particular.  I&#039;m very busy for the next couple of days, but if I dig something more up on this I&#039;ll let you guys know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt/Marie,</p>
<p>Thanks for the info on the wages.  I only saw the blurb once, and it listed the $9 wage &#8211; not sure where that number came from.  It must have been a specific classification that the person who reported it was aware of in particular.  I&#8217;m very busy for the next couple of days, but if I dig something more up on this I&#8217;ll let you guys know.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132656', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does a rooster have tits? - Of course not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does a rooster have tits? &#8211; Of course not!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132590', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the clarification on the wages to be paid to workers in cleaning up New Orleans.  Everyone comes to a similar conclusion, though, which is that workers will be paid substandard wages for really nasty work and the corps. will reap more windfall profits.
In addition, the EPA is not involved (at least not where I can determine) and the contamination is expected to last for a long time.  Will workers be told that they will be exposed to any health hazards?  And will returning residents be told prematurely that their air and water are safe?  
(Recall that the gov&#039;t didn&#039;t tell the New Yorkers of health hazards after 9/11.)  In their hurry to restore New Orleans as quickly as it can be cleaned up will the environmental concerns be addressed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the clarification on the wages to be paid to workers in cleaning up New Orleans.  Everyone comes to a similar conclusion, though, which is that workers will be paid substandard wages for really nasty work and the corps. will reap more windfall profits.<br />
In addition, the EPA is not involved (at least not where I can determine) and the contamination is expected to last for a long time.  Will workers be told that they will be exposed to any health hazards?  And will returning residents be told prematurely that their air and water are safe?<br />
(Recall that the gov&#8217;t didn&#8217;t tell the New Yorkers of health hazards after 9/11.)  In their hurry to restore New Orleans as quickly as it can be cleaned up will the environmental concerns be addressed?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132578', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikey, I may have misled you a bit, the MW is $6.15, the PW is $12.00 here where I lve. But who is going to shovel excretement out of the Big Easy gutters when he or she can make twice as much selling beer, smokes, rubbers, Twinkies and rubber hot dogs across the street?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikey, I may have misled you a bit, the MW is $6.15, the PW is $12.00 here where I lve. But who is going to shovel excretement out of the Big Easy gutters when he or she can make twice as much selling beer, smokes, rubbers, Twinkies and rubber hot dogs across the street?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132530', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt, prevailing wage depends on the craft or labor classification and differs by state.  But Dubya has suspended Davis-Bacon under the &quot;emergency&quot; guise, so even prevailing wage no longer applies in LA.  What a crime.  So in effect, prevailing wage is federal minimum wage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt, prevailing wage depends on the craft or labor classification and differs by state.  But Dubya has suspended Davis-Bacon under the &#8220;emergency&#8221; guise, so even prevailing wage no longer applies in LA.  What a crime.  So in effect, prevailing wage is federal minimum wage.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132527', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WaltTheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltTheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, it looks like Mikey is right on the minimum wage in LA. There have been a few attempts to add a dollar to the fed minimum at the state level. A few cities tried to set local criteria, but were struck down by the courts. The next question, of course, is, what is the prevailing wage? Here in FL, where it is $6.15, there are convenience stores that are posting signs that say - &quot;Now Hiring - $12.00 to Start&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, it looks like Mikey is right on the minimum wage in LA. There have been a few attempts to add a dollar to the fed minimum at the state level. A few cities tried to set local criteria, but were struck down by the courts. The next question, of course, is, what is the prevailing wage? Here in FL, where it is $6.15, there are convenience stores that are posting signs that say &#8211; &#8220;Now Hiring &#8211; $12.00 to Start&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132520', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/12/brown-resigns-he-should-have-been-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-132493</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, I looked and couldn&#039;t find anything supporting 9/hr.  The Feds say LA has no minimum wage law.  I couldn&#039;t find info on LA website to back this up.

http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm#Louisiana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, I looked and couldn&#8217;t find anything supporting 9/hr.  The Feds say LA has no minimum wage law.  I couldn&#8217;t find info on LA website to back this up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm#Louisiana" rel="nofollow">http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm#Louisiana</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132493', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Neat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Neat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikey,

The process was greed, it&#039;ll almost cost half as much in labor costs for the manual labor...  It&#039;s 5.15 per hour for the national wage, and I read 9.00 for louisiana - but I haven&#039;t confirmed that figure.  The reich wing always uses disasters as an opportunity to undermine consumer and worker protections - it&#039;s standard operating procedure for them...  This is just one of the MANY overrides they&#039;ve done including environment controls, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikey,</p>
<p>The process was greed, it&#8217;ll almost cost half as much in labor costs for the manual labor&#8230;  It&#8217;s 5.15 per hour for the national wage, and I read 9.00 for louisiana &#8211; but I haven&#8217;t confirmed that figure.  The reich wing always uses disasters as an opportunity to undermine consumer and worker protections &#8211; it&#8217;s standard operating procedure for them&#8230;  This is just one of the MANY overrides they&#8217;ve done including environment controls, etc.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132465', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/12/brown-resigns-he-should-have-been-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-132451</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#34, Ryan, thanks for that info, I didn&#039;t know that.

What was the thought process behind that decision? (Well, other than allowing Haliburton to make a larger profit on the backs of the poor.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34, Ryan, thanks for that info, I didn&#8217;t know that.</p>
<p>What was the thought process behind that decision? (Well, other than allowing Haliburton to make a larger profit on the backs of the poor.)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132451', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Neat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Neat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikey,

They are refusing to pay the Louisiana minimum wage, and instead are only going to pay federal minimum wage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikey,</p>
<p>They are refusing to pay the Louisiana minimum wage, and instead are only going to pay federal minimum wage.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132430', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;they donâ€™t have to pay minimum wage either&quot;.  You meant &#039;prevailing wage&#039; right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they donâ€™t have to pay minimum wage either&#8221;.  You meant &#8216;prevailing wage&#8217; right?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132414', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/12/brown-resigns-he-should-have-been-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-132255</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T.O.  We should be talking about more substantive matters, but it is stress-relieving to bash Bush and his incompetence.  He doesn&#039;t know the importance of being able to meet the standards of a job, since he never had to meet them himself.
Regarding the clean up and rebuilding -- we already know that Halliburton, KBR, the Shaw Group, all heaving connected companies to the Bushies have all gotten no-bid contracts  - no one else need apply - they don&#039;t have to pay minimum wage either, so their profits will be enormous, the opportunity for greed  and for self-supervision can only lead to more waste of tax dollars.
BTW - No one is talking about the cover up being charged by some EPA experts that the area is far more toxic than we&#039;re being told and the area will not really be safe for occupancy for a long time.
No EPA experts have been contacted for this clean up  to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T.O.  We should be talking about more substantive matters, but it is stress-relieving to bash Bush and his incompetence.  He doesn&#8217;t know the importance of being able to meet the standards of a job, since he never had to meet them himself.<br />
Regarding the clean up and rebuilding &#8212; we already know that Halliburton, KBR, the Shaw Group, all heaving connected companies to the Bushies have all gotten no-bid contracts  &#8211; no one else need apply &#8211; they don&#8217;t have to pay minimum wage either, so their profits will be enormous, the opportunity for greed  and for self-supervision can only lead to more waste of tax dollars.<br />
BTW &#8211; No one is talking about the cover up being charged by some EPA experts that the area is far more toxic than we&#8217;re being told and the area will not really be safe for occupancy for a long time.<br />
No EPA experts have been contacted for this clean up  to date.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132255', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zappatero</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/12/brown-resigns-he-should-have-been-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-132236</link>
		<dc:creator>Zappatero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Chief of Staff was the ass-kicker? 

I guess Rove has corrupted the entire organizational structure and accountability mechanisms of the WH staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Chief of Staff was the ass-kicker? </p>
<p>I guess Rove has corrupted the entire organizational structure and accountability mechanisms of the WH staff.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132236', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Terry Ott</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/12/brown-resigns-he-should-have-been-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-132181</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Ott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discussion of &quot;he should have been fired&quot; instead of resigning is pointless.  Anyone who has ever spent more than a week in the business world knows that there is no difference between the two in a situation like this.   In fact, often if someone is &quot;fired&quot; there is an obligation (via corporate policy) to pay him/her severance, sometimes amounting to months of pay with benefits and other goodies.  If the individual chooses to step down &quot;voluntarily&quot; then that package is not triggered, at least not &quot;automatically&quot;.   

The times when &quot;firing&quot; is more often done is when the person is being removed &quot;for cause&quot; (such as stealing, violating workplace rules like sexual harrassment, etc) because in such cases the standard severance arrangements do not come in to play by virtue of, again, corporate policy.

Can we talk about something that makes a difference?  Like how the $62 Billion is going to be spent?  Option (1):  Dole it out to victims and contractors and task forces without an overarching plan for what the outcome in the region should be, with benchmarks, milestones, and measures of effectiveness of the investments.   Option (2):  Construct a vision of what the region could/should look like economically, housing-wise, disaster preparedness, job-wise, health care facilities and staffing, educational initiatives, etc .... and then spend the money in ways that move the whole region in that direction, in measurable and observable ways.

There is a saying that it is futile to hope for (2) while doing (1).  What are the chances that this will be done right vs. wrong, resulting in the taxpayers scratching their heads and butts 5 years from now while pondering &quot;what happened to that $100+ billion again?&quot;

This is an opportunity.  Will it be treated that way?  Probably not, but one can hope and dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion of &#8220;he should have been fired&#8221; instead of resigning is pointless.  Anyone who has ever spent more than a week in the business world knows that there is no difference between the two in a situation like this.   In fact, often if someone is &#8220;fired&#8221; there is an obligation (via corporate policy) to pay him/her severance, sometimes amounting to months of pay with benefits and other goodies.  If the individual chooses to step down &#8220;voluntarily&#8221; then that package is not triggered, at least not &#8220;automatically&#8221;.   </p>
<p>The times when &#8220;firing&#8221; is more often done is when the person is being removed &#8220;for cause&#8221; (such as stealing, violating workplace rules like sexual harrassment, etc) because in such cases the standard severance arrangements do not come in to play by virtue of, again, corporate policy.</p>
<p>Can we talk about something that makes a difference?  Like how the $62 Billion is going to be spent?  Option (1):  Dole it out to victims and contractors and task forces without an overarching plan for what the outcome in the region should be, with benchmarks, milestones, and measures of effectiveness of the investments.   Option (2):  Construct a vision of what the region could/should look like economically, housing-wise, disaster preparedness, job-wise, health care facilities and staffing, educational initiatives, etc &#8230;. and then spend the money in ways that move the whole region in that direction, in measurable and observable ways.</p>
<p>There is a saying that it is futile to hope for (2) while doing (1).  What are the chances that this will be done right vs. wrong, resulting in the taxpayers scratching their heads and butts 5 years from now while pondering &#8220;what happened to that $100+ billion again?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is an opportunity.  Will it be treated that way?  Probably not, but one can hope and dream.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132181', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/12/brown-resigns-he-should-have-been-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-132115</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush is getting Brown&#039;s medal of freedom burnished at this moment.
Curious, while in Mississippi, Bush was asked about Brown&#039;s resignation and he claimed no knowledge -- he was even somewhat believable in his ignorance. So, either Brown resigned and didn&#039;t give advance notice to Bush, or Bush really didn&#039;t know, proving that this is a White House run by committee, and he is merely a figure who stands in front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush is getting Brown&#8217;s medal of freedom burnished at this moment.<br />
Curious, while in Mississippi, Bush was asked about Brown&#8217;s resignation and he claimed no knowledge &#8212; he was even somewhat believable in his ignorance. So, either Brown resigned and didn&#8217;t give advance notice to Bush, or Bush really didn&#8217;t know, proving that this is a White House run by committee, and he is merely a figure who stands in front.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132115', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: portly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/12/brown-resigns-he-should-have-been-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-132116</link>
		<dc:creator>portly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>over-grown, mutated gaters seen in the waters of Pontchartrain, with Friar Tuck bald spots and heard to mutter, &quot;F#ck You, Senator...F#ck You, Senator...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>over-grown, mutated gaters seen in the waters of Pontchartrain, with Friar Tuck bald spots and heard to mutter, &#8220;F#ck You, Senator&#8230;F#ck You, Senator&#8230;&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=132116', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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