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Watch Out Ron Popeil

By Think Progress on Sep 15th, 2005 at 9:38 pm

Watch Out Ron Popeil

Ron Popeil: “Well, all my products can be purchased at 1-800-43- RONCO. Or you could — ronco.com, my Web site.” [Larry King Live, 4/13/01]

Bush: “Please call 1-877-568-3317, thatâ€™s 1-877-568-3317, and we will work to bring your family back together.”

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98 Responses to “Watch Out Ron Popeil”

Jon says:

At least Popeil has the honesty to ask the American people to pay for his bill of goods.

Bush on the other hand…
September 15th, 2005 at 9:42 pm
to the right of you says:

then lets cry cause he didnt give any info on how to reach out for help.
September 15th, 2005 at 9:42 pm
Stan says:

Bush did not deserve to have to do this. This tragedy is clearly Chertoff’s fault. That speech was degrading.
September 15th, 2005 at 10:43 pm
WiscoDuk says:

The great and mighty OZ has spoken!
September 15th, 2005 at 10:44 pm
James W. Perry says:

Bush and Republicans ushered in the dumming down of America and our government He not a puppet on a string he is a dope on a rope. It is apparent he does not have the gray matter or perspective to understand this latest mess. This was his attempt at damage control. He is so simple that he really thinks that and a few words he didn’t write and can bearly read “we will work to bring your family back togetherâ€ speaks to the sad affair of the government failure on the Gulf Coast. The victim of this strom and America deserves better than this Cowardly Cowboy and his kind..
September 15th, 2005 at 10:50 pm
Clyde the Ripper says:

Speaking of the OZ and Dummies check out http://www.storytimedolls.net/mmff.html

When, Oh when, are we going to end this farce and send them all to Leavenworth?
September 15th, 2005 at 11:07 pm
Susan says:

Rod, reel, line, bobber, hook the whole thing.
September 15th, 2005 at 11:07 pm
Dartanyon says:

ROFLMAO!!!!

Way funny.
September 15th, 2005 at 11:09 pm
Ron says:

I don’t know how it can possibly get any worse for George Bush, but it could.

He should have stayed owner of the Texas Rangers. He wouldn’t be in the pickle he’s in and has placed this country in an economic predicament.

It must all be paying big bucks for the powers that be.
September 15th, 2005 at 11:18 pm
Zookeeper says:

But don’t hold your breath until it happens, heh heh. I’ll be there for the photo-op, heh heh.
September 15th, 2005 at 11:20 pm
cynical ex-hippie says:

Let this be a lesson kids: Don’t take on more responsibility than you can handle, no matter what the funny looking fat guy tells you.

I look on the bright side. As a political opponent, I will never have to sit through one of his speeches.
September 15th, 2005 at 11:24 pm
Mr. Evil says:

Is every law enforcement agency in the neocons of this administration’s pockets? Why are there no investigations? Oh, you have the little Karl (Chubby Butt) Rove Plamegate and the indictments of Tom DeLay’s TRMPAC. But they’ll probably just get a smack on the hand.

Maybe when Tom DeLay’s partner in crime, Jack Abramoff, starts to feel the pressure from his indictment(s) hopefully he’ll sing like a bird about all the disgusting, vile things he (DeLay) has been involved in.

Big George’s speech is just another example fluff cheerleading (the only thing he seems to be truly qualified for). Make us feel good while he and his cronies slither around figuring out how to exploit Hurricane Katrina to the benefit of Halliburton, Bechtel and The Carlyle Group.

And not one Democrat in congress with a spine to be found.
September 15th, 2005 at 11:27 pm
cynical ex-hippie says:

I guess not sending a helicopter to a hospital to see if they need anything isn’t a crime.

In a way, these are exactly the kind of market forces they have been arguing for. The rich survive to rebuild. The poor get weeded out or driven out. The price of gas and heat flying along the supply/demand axis. Hospitals with the means to hire private helicopters save their patients. Poor — ahem — hospitals that cannot compete economically do not.

And we have Karl Rove playing the little bookkeeper of horrors.
September 15th, 2005 at 11:36 pm
Skid says:

That’s too funny. When I was watching his speech and he pitched the phone number, once again that’s pitched the phone number, I thought about the pitchmen in the infomercials. Anymore, he just gives me the creeps.
September 16th, 2005 at 12:13 am
cynical ex-hippie says:

But that’s not all, if you call our toll free number in the next half hour, we’ll throw in this lovely thermal blanket, a forty dollar value! That number again…

Somehow I’m not picturing a hundred thousand hurricane survivors rushing into their kitchens to grab a pen and the phone.
September 16th, 2005 at 12:16 am
Skid says:

Also, the blue shirt and the blue background make his head look disproportionate to his upper body/shoulder width.
September 16th, 2005 at 12:16 am
cynical ex-hippie says:

Well, it was a nice try with the blue shirt. I guess he’s dressing himself these days. Hasn’t he learned yet not to trust his own judgement? Perhaps this is another one of those growing up moments, like when he chose his wife over whiskey.
September 16th, 2005 at 12:27 am
Clyde the Ripper says:

Where did the Duty Idiot get the electricity for his telecast from NO? He brought his own generators and you can bet your sweet ass he took them out with him.

Check out the latest at

http://www.storytimedolls.net/mmff.html

and send in your contribution to the cause!
September 16th, 2005 at 12:29 am
cynical ex-hippie says:

I think another message to take away from this speech is a slight expansion of the Republican Birth Tax: Every baby born in this country is born owing $51,000. What’s another couple thousand anyway? If any babies want to object, now’s the time, because we’re going to rebuild a city and Bush’s majority sure don’t want to pay for it!
September 16th, 2005 at 12:30 am
WaltTheMan says:

I’d agree that the Twin Towers did detonate. My theory is that the reason was due to the structure of the two buildings. The buildings had a central core, much like a Balsam tree trunk with the floors extending out like its branches. The outer skin served to suspend the floors at their edges. This provided a strong structure that could flex with the wind as the outer skin was elastic. The planes that went into the buildings released fuel from the center tanks between the wings into the central core of the building. The wing tanks and engines ignited objects at the impact level which fell below into the pool of jet fuel in the shaft as they burned. Once the fuel reached flash point, all hell broke loose.
The techniques that were used to realize 9/11 represent an engineering feat of the highest order.
The bin Ladens run an engineering group.
September 16th, 2005 at 12:47 am
Nancy L. says:

To all, I had a rough day, and after reading your nice comments on our ‘commander in cheat’, I’m still chuckling. Thanks, needed it. Wish we could do the same for those who are suffering right now.

Quote: “we will work to bring your family back together.â€ Please explain to me, how he’s going to reunite families who have dead family members? Last time I checked, you can’t keep deceased family members,
in the sitting room anymore.

#14 I agree totally with your statement.
The survival of the fittest(did I spell that right?) My worst fear is the admin & cronies knew what would happen, and sat back and let the fittest survive. Certainly lowers the numbers of all those poor, sick, and disabled on the (dole)system, not contributing anything to this rich man’s economy, be you on
welfare, social security, disability, a small
pensions, getting charity, the poor, or the ‘lazy’, as Bush calls them, are the invisible people.
Just let Mother Nature do his dirty work.
September 16th, 2005 at 12:58 am
Sharon Cox says:

You all have heard the old saying “Those who hesitate are lost”, in this case “Those who hesitate cause all of us to loose”……Blessings
September 16th, 2005 at 1:23 am
SpudgeBoy says:

#22 WaltTheMan

The theory that you have describe is very realistic, but is not the real story. The theory that you have put forth is based on the fact that there was shit loads of airplane fuel that caused temperatures to raise above 8,000 degrees, which would cause the trusses to heat up and warp, which would cause the catostrophic fialure, in turn causing the tower to collapse.

But, there are photos of people standing in the impact areas (read “holes in building) of the World Trade Center buildings.

How can a human being stand that close to an 8,000 degree fire with out turning into a little crispy ball.

With the way the one building was hit, the top should have fell off the way the top of Crysler building down in the Movie Independance Day…..to one side.

But they didn’t do that. They did the same thing as all of the buldings I have seen the were intentionally raized. You know, the experts that take months to plan out just exactly how to raize a building to the ground with minimal damage to surrounding buildings?

I jsut wonder about this stuff.

Or, I could just go about life being a robotic automiton and obey my leaders…

I think I will keep asking questions….
September 16th, 2005 at 1:45 am
SpudgeBoy says:

Sorry for the crappy spelling and grammer. Was on a roll. Typing fast is not on my resume.

I think you get what I mane though.
September 16th, 2005 at 1:47 am
Ryan Neat says:

Spudge,

Considering that they trained AlQueda to fight the soviets – I know they’re capable of that level of malice and manipulation.

The one thing I wonder is if there was a melting and failure, why didn’t one side fail first and the top topple off. That would be more consistent with a warping and failure in my mind than the even collapse. An even collapse of the nature we saw in the towers I’ve certainly see in demolitions, but it’s because they place EVEN charges that all go off at the same time. The reason they do this is if you get an inprecise collapse where one side collapses first, gravity calls the system to topple instead of collapse…

So I would agree that it certainly looks suspicious to my untrained eye – and that I’m open to all possibilities on the matter…
September 16th, 2005 at 3:09 am
SpudgeBoy says:

Ryan,

Exactly! Two of the world’s tallest buildings were hit by what amounts to very large missiles with wings and they collaspe striaght down to the ground with minimal damage to the surrounding buildings. It is quite a feature of demolitions expertise. Yeah, I am sure Osama planned that out in his cave.

Oh wait, Osama bin Ladin said in a video statement that they had no idead that the buildings would collaspe. He said that was a “blessing from Allah”

Hmmmmmm.
September 16th, 2005 at 3:21 am
I-RIGHT-I says:

With the way the one building was hit, the top should have fell off the way the top of Crysler building down in the Movie Independance Dayâ€¦..to one side.

comment by Skid Mark

I…I…I can’t think of anything to say Skid. I think you’ve said it all for me.
September 16th, 2005 at 7:29 am
Keith H. says:

How ’bout the building (I think it’s known as building 7) that collapsed without being hit? Seems suspect to me.
September 16th, 2005 at 8:37 am
Keith H. says:

That bit with the phone number was a hoot.
‘We have tens of people waiting to answer your call’.

Was it just me, or did junior seem to get happier as the end of the ’speach’ neared. Like, whew…it’s almost over.

The last 2 min., he seriously reminded me of one of those evangelical preachers.
Dude looked like he belonged on the 700 club.
September 16th, 2005 at 8:45 am
Brian says:

Here’s what I email to my senators:

It is not right that the President take all the blame for this. Nor do I think the president is qualified to rebuild New Orleans OR honestly investigate himself.
You should have voted for independent review of hurricane response.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4849706
September 16th, 2005 at 9:43 am
wisedup says:

1-800-IMPEACH BUSH
September 16th, 2005 at 9:48 am
Zappatero says:

wonder how much those flood lights cost?
September 16th, 2005 at 9:48 am
mmmm ... sultry says:

that pretty much summarizes Iraq:

just set it … and FORGET IT …
September 16th, 2005 at 9:50 am
ARC: StWendeler says:

You clearly suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome. Please seek professional help. Can you add anything constructive to the conversation?

And it’s interesting how this snarky post somehow turns into a debate over whether 9/11 was an inside job or not. Do you realize how crazy you all sound? 10 years from now, you’ll wake up and come to your senses… at least, I hope you do.

Regards,
St Wendeler
Another Rovian Conspiracy
September 16th, 2005 at 10:06 am
wisedup says:

…”Therefore I must resign as your president,goodnight.
September 16th, 2005 at 10:08 am
Ohioan says:

Bush completely misread the American people as the following Republican told the nytimes:

“He was giving a speech as if the nation were disheartened and worried and had lost its spirit, but that’s not what people were thinking,” said Mickey Edwards, a former Republican congressman from Oklahoma. “They were thinking, why did the government screw up?”
September 16th, 2005 at 10:32 am
Anne says:

I totally agree with #14. I believe they knew the poor,elderly, & weak would not be able to survive the long hot days after the flood. “Let Nature do the dirty work”.
He needs to stay out of N O and quit wasting our tax dollars on his dam jet fuel, and gas. That money could go toward helping the people.
September 16th, 2005 at 11:09 am
AvengingAngel says:

Bushâ€™s prime-time “Katrina Comeback” address was designed to help him, and not the Gulf States, recover from his administrationâ€™s disastrous bungling of the Katrina response. He turned to the same old page in his political playbook: offer to shower money on the devastated South, but hold no one accountable for the past and shun independent oversight of the rebuilding. Truest to form, the Free Lunch President refused to ask the American people to pay for it.

For the full story, see:

“Bush’s Katrina Cop Out”
September 16th, 2005 at 11:20 am
Hank says:

Bush showed up with his blue shirt on and sleeves rolled up, all ready for his photo ops as a hard worker. All he needed was a chainsaw and cowboy hat to start setting the example for the rest of us. Don’t you get just sick and tired of his theatricals? He needs to get him a new gig.
September 16th, 2005 at 11:28 am
Santorum! says:

Last time I checked, you canâ€™t keep deceased family members,in the sitting room anymore.

You can if you are Rick Santorum and family and you have a dead baby!
September 16th, 2005 at 12:03 pm
Pablo in Mexico says:

Please note that bush spoke a lot about helping with the rebuilding of the infrastructure, but when it came to helping the people he mentioned only a homestead act. The person lucky enough to get a homestread thru his lottery system would be required to build on the land.

Didnt mention how they could afford to do so, nor any federal help along those lines.

This was a political speech, a save my ass speech, nothing more. If he wants to throw dollar bills at the catastroph he should have started before the hurricane with the levees.
September 16th, 2005 at 12:06 pm
Jon says:

One of the more transparent aspects of President Bush’s speech from New Orleans last night was its cynical outreach to African-Americans. Trying to break the stereotype of his administration and his party as modern day Confederates, Bush spoke eloquently of race and poverty in the Katrina disaster. Unfortunately, Bush’s makeover as born-again racial healer simply isnâ€™t credible, given his own penchant for racial stereotypes…

For the full story, see:

“The Bush Speech in Black and White.”
September 16th, 2005 at 12:57 pm
Marie says:

Do you all recall the other day when someone claimed the poverty level is better under Bush than Clinton at the half-way point? Someone asked for a comparison of what each one started with. Several of you posted the statistics to show the fallacy of the original claim. I just heard the original on a replay of Bill O’liely. Another example of the Fox disinformation fed as truth to the trolls.
September 16th, 2005 at 2:40 pm
Ryan Neat says:

“And itâ€™s interesting how this snarky post somehow turns into a debate over whether 9/11 was an inside job or not. Do you realize how crazy you all sound?”

The only people who are ever crazy are the ones that don’t pay attention to all facts and make a reasonable decision on that. You by contrast are so unwilling to even believe that america ‘could’ do something heinous to its own population – that’s its own form of ‘denial’ and ‘insanity’. I am not encumbered by that delusion.

As for conspiracy theories, the one thing going against it being an inside/bush job, is that they’ve been incompetent at executing EVERYTHING they’ve done in the presidency. I therefore find it difficult to imagine they could have possibly done such a well executed and well timed job. This is what prevents me from being convinced – but it doesn’t convince me from considering.

ARC: StWendeler, your response to people considering this possibility reminds me of those who try to shut down the consideration of whether there is child/spouse abuse or not. Their response is, well they’re so nice, that’s just crazy, you shouldn’t even think about that. It’s a defense mechanism for those of weak minds and weak dispositions to not have to think the uncomfortable.

A ‘conspiracy nut’, is one who is obsessed with this, without any concrete evidence, or even it being the most rational explanation. Considering that airplane fuel does not get hot enough to melt steel, only weaken it, and the likelihood that the fire would burn evenly enough throughout the floor to have all of the supports throughout the floor equally heated is virtually impossible, only an idiot or someone with NO engineering capacity would just dismiss the charge without investigation.

The fact that Chertoff (the idiot who hired Brown) was the man who ‘debunked’ these theories actually increases my belief that they may be correct. This administration has publically lied about some 40 major events that I’ve seen, and counting – why would this one be any different?
September 16th, 2005 at 2:43 pm
wisedup says:

Right Marie, do we trust gov. figures?…better not. Fox is in bushes pocket. His speech went: Pump,pump,pump up the public..but turned out…sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
as usual.
September 16th, 2005 at 2:46 pm
Mr. Evil says:

The fact that NORAD was directed to stand down on 9-11 is another example of how it could have been an inside job. When airliners are hijacked NORAD receives a signal and immediately scrambles the nearest fighter jets to intercept the plane. This did not happen because of exercises were occurring in NYC that very day. Exercises for a possible terrorist attack using airplanes to crash into buildings. What a coincidence.

The Project for the New American Century has been horny to attack Iraq since the nineties. Since Osama bin Laden was once on the dole for the CIA he could have easily been paid/coorced into finding the muslim automatons to pull off this feat. You know what they say about the CIA, “once a company man, always a company man”.
They could have easily threatened to kill his entire family and cut off all his money. If this being the case the decision for Osama would be rather easy and would also answer why he is free and all but forgotten by Bush.

All one has to do is read and think for themselves.
September 16th, 2005 at 3:04 pm
I-RIGHT-I says:

Memo From: iRi AKA Troll, psycho, etc.

To: the Think Progress Losers

Just want you to know that while y’all were seething and whining about Bush this and Bush that hundreds of my fellow ChristoNazi friends in Houston have been brainwashing the Katrina victims. We’ve saved their life, fed and clothed them, kept all their misadventures out of the news and in general made them love us. Not me of course I won’t go near them until I can find a full body condom my size, but in general our town has made them feel “loved”. As you know most of us are Republicans and Right Wing Bush Whackers for Bush. I just thought you’d like to hear what your former plantation slaves they’re saying…enjoy.

To ABC’s Surprise, Katrina Victims Praise Bush and Blame Nagin

Posted by Brent Baker on September 16, 2005 – 00:50.

ABC News producers probably didn’t hear what they expected when they sent Dean Reynolds to the Houston Astrodome’s parking lot to get reaction to President Bush’s speech from black evacuees from New Orleans. Instead of denouncing Bush and blaming him for their plight, they praised Bush and blamed local officials. Reynolds asked Connie London: “Did you harbor any anger toward the President because of the slow federal response?” She rejected the premise: “No, none whatsoever, because I feel like our city and our state government should have been there before the federal government was called in.â€ She pointed out: â€œThey had RTA buses, Greyhound buses, school buses, that was just sitting there going under water when they could have been evacuating people.”

Not one of the six people interviewed on camera had a bad word for Bush — despite Reynolds’ best efforts. Reynolds goaded: “Was there anything that you found hard to believe that he said, that you thought, well, that’s nice rhetoric, but, you know, the proof is in the pudding?” Brenda Marshall answered, “No, I didn’t,” prompting Reynolds to marvel to anchor Ted Koppel: “Very little skepticism here.â€

Reynolds pressed another woman: â€œDid you feel that the President was sincere tonight?” She affirmed: “Yes, he was.” Reynolds soon wondered who they held culpable for the levee breaks. Unlike the national media, London did not blame supposed Bush-mandated budget cuts: “They’ve been allocated federal funds to fix the levee system, and it never got done. I fault the mayor of our city personally. I really do.”

Full transcript follows. Video excerpt: RealPlayer or Windows Media. Plus MP3

The MRC’s Rich Noyes alerted me to the reactions ABC broadcast.

Immediately after Bush finished his speech from Jackson Square in New Orleans, at about 8:26pm local CDT, Ted Koppel, anchor of ABC’s hour-long coverage, went to Dean Reynolds who was outside in a parking lot with a group of black people from New Orleans who are living at the Reliant Center next to the Astrodome.

(No names were provided on-screen for those interviewed, so I only have first names for two, and no name for one, of the six.)

Reynolds elicited reaction from the group sitting in chairs: â€œI’d like to get the reaction of Connie London who spent several horrible hours at the Superdome. You heard the President say retpeaedly that you are not alone, that the country stands beside you. Do you believe him?â€

Connie London: â€œYeah, I believe him, because here in Texas, they have truly been good to us. I mean-â€

Reynolds: â€œDid you get a sense of hope that you could return to your home one day in New Orleans?â€

London: â€œYes, I did. I did.â€

Reynolds: â€œDid you harbor any anger toward the President because of the slow federal response?â€

London: â€œNo, none whatsoever, because I feel like our city and our state government should have been there before the federal government was called in. They should have been on their jobs.â€

Reynolds: â€œAnd they weren’t?â€

London: â€œNo, no, no, no. Lord, they wasn’t. I mean, they had RTA buses, Greyhound buses, school buses, that was just sitting there going under water when they could have been evacuating people.â€

Reynolds: â€œNow, Mary, you were rescued from your house which was basically submerged in your neighborhood. Did you hear something in the President’s words that you could glean some hope from?â€

Mary: â€œYes. He said we’re coming back, and I believe we’re coming back. He’s going to build the city up. I believe that.â€

Reynolds: â€œYou believe you’ll be able to return to your home?â€

Mary: â€œYes, I do.â€

Reynolds: â€œWhy?â€

Mary: â€œBecause I really believe what he said. I believe. I got faith.â€

Reynolds: â€œBack here in the corner, we’ve got Brenda Marshall, right?â€

Brenda Marshall: â€œYes.â€

Reynolds: â€œNow, Brenda, you were, spent, what, several days at the Superdome, correct?â€

Marshall: â€œYes, I did.â€

Reynolds: â€œWhat did you think of what the President told you tonight?â€

Marshall: â€œWell, I think — I think the speech was wonderful, you know, him specifying that we will return back and that we will have like mobile homes, you know, rent or whatever. I was listening to that pretty good. But I think it was a well fine speech.â€

Reynolds: â€œWas there any particular part of it that stood out in your mind? I mean, I saw you all nod when he said the Crescent City is going to come back one day.â€

Marshall: â€œWell, I think I was more excited about what he said. That’s probably why I nodded.â€

Reynolds: â€œWas there anything that you found hard to believe that he said, that you thought, well, that’s nice rhetoric, but, you know, the proof is in the pudding?â€

Marshall: â€œNo, I didn’t.â€

Reynolds: â€œGood. Well, very little skepticism here. Frederick Gould, did you hear something that you could hang on to tonight from the President?â€

Frederick Gould: â€œWell, I just know, you know, he said good things to me, you know, what he said, you know. I was just trying to listen to everything they were saying, you know.â€

Reynolds: â€œAnd Cecilia, did you feel that the President was sincere tonight?â€

Cecilia: â€œYes, he was.â€

Reynolds: â€œDo you think this is a little too late, or do you think he’s got a handle on the situation?â€

Cecilia: â€œTo me it was a little too late. It was too late, but he should have did something more about it.â€

Reynolds: â€œNow do you all believe that you will one day return to your homes?â€
Voices: â€œYesâ€ and â€œI do.â€

Reynolds: â€œI mean, do you all want to return to your homes? We’re hearing some people don’t even want to go back.â€

Mary: â€œI want to go back.â€

Reynolds: â€œYou want to go back.â€

Mary: â€œI want to go back. That’s my home. That’s all I know.â€

Reynolds: â€œIs it your home for your whole life?â€

Mary: â€œRight. That’s my home.â€

Reynolds: â€œAnd do you expect to go back to the house or a brand new dwelling or what?â€

Mary: â€œI expect to go back to something. I know it ain’t my house, because it’s gone.â€

Reynolds: â€œWhat is the one mistake that could have been prevented that would have made your lives much better? Is it simply getting all of you out much sooner or what was it?â€

Mary: â€œI’m going to tell you the truth. I had the opportunity to get out, but I didn’t believe it. So I stayed there till it was too late.â€

Reynolds: â€œDid you all have the same feeling? I mean, did you all have the opportunity to get out, but you were skeptical that this was the really bad one?â€

Unnamed woman: â€œNo, I got out when they said evacuate. I got out that Sunday and I left before the storm came. But I know they could have did better than what they did because like they said, buses were just sitting there, and they could have came through there and got people out, because they were saying immediate evacuation. Some people didn’t believe it. But they should have brung the force of the army through to help these people and make them understand it really was coming.â€

London: â€œAnd really it wasn’t Hurricane Katrina that really tore up the city. It was when they opened the floodgates. It was not the hurricane itself. It was the floodgates, when they opened the floodgates, that’s where all the water came.â€

Reynolds: â€œDo you blame anybody for this?â€

London: â€œYes. I mean, they’ve been allocated federal funds to fix the levee system, and it never got done. I fault the mayor of our city personally. I really do.â€

Reynolds: â€œAll right. Well, thank you all very much. I wish you all the best of luck. I hope you don’t have to spend too much more time here in the Reliant Center and you can get back to New Orleans as the President said. Ted, that is the word from the Houston Astrodome. And as I said, when the President said that the Crescent City will rise again, there were nods all around this parking lot.â€
September 16th, 2005 at 3:17 pm
Santorum! says:

Most of us who have been watching the blow hards on the right long enough can laugh at their websites and bios. Some of you may still be inexperienced enough to not read between the wisps of smoke. Here is the Brent “Bozo The Clown” Bozell’s MRC.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Brent_Bozell

and a good resource The Con Web Watch

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/
September 16th, 2005 at 3:31 pm
Santorum! says:

Media Transparency

http://www.mediatransparency.org/allinonesearchresults.php

Brent Baker is such a nobody you have to do searches on the big clown Bozell or MRC.

Only an idiot pays attention to the MRC. Lord knows what kind of moron, besides IRI actually believes any of that drivel.
September 16th, 2005 at 3:37 pm
Ryan Neat says:

MrWrong,

Lets not forget we saw lots of folks in Iraq that had nice things to say about america as well on the press, and reporters had trouble finding people in iraq who felt different. What’s similar? Both situations had military that staged the press events, and restricted their access to anyone who didn’t fit the propaganda.

Are you that stupid? Wait, let me answer. YES YOU ARE!!!

Your parents must be proud having raised the village fool…
September 16th, 2005 at 3:41 pm
mighty aphrodite says:

No, Ryan, RIGHT’S parents are proud to have raised a lover of this good country, flaws and all. I will bid you adieu (a lovely term for you Francophiles) sadly realizing that too many of the contributors to this site are bitter, petty, jealous under-achievers!
September 16th, 2005 at 3:48 pm
I-RIGHT-I says:

I will bid you adieu (a lovely term for you Francophiles) sadly realizing that too many of the contributors to this site are bitter, petty, jealous under-achievers!

Comment by mighty aphrodite

Just a little bit of this insanity goes a long way doesn’t it Goddess? Stick around, Ryan is about …..this far from voluntarily improving the gene pool…oh wait, he’s a non reproducing disease riddled drag-queen on society isn’t he? Still, he could provide a good example to other sexually challenged men if he’d just retroactively abort himself. I mean that in a nice way.
September 16th, 2005 at 4:17 pm
ARC: StWendeler says:

I suppose I could reply to your whacko conspiracy theories RE BFEE and the 9/11 inside job. But, what’s the point? You clearly are deranged… your obsession with Bush has led you to turn a post poking fun at bush’s use of a @#$ing 800 phone number into a debate over whether OBL was responsible for 9/11!!!

That is someone who is an obsessed conspiracy nut.

I s’pose I could have a conversation with a guy and explain to him that he is IN FACT NOT Napolean Bonaparte, despite the “concrete evidence” that he’s wearing a funny looking hat… but in the end, it’s impossible and frustrating to have the discussion BECAUSE HE’S A @#$ING NUTTER!!!

Regards,
St Wendeler
Another Rovian Conspiracy
September 16th, 2005 at 5:22 pm
ARC: Brian says:

“A â€˜conspiracy nutâ€™, is one who is obsessed with this, without any concrete evidence, or even it being the most rational explanation.”

Actually a conspriacy nut is one who looks at information that debunks the conspiracy and incorporates it as proof that there was a conspiracy.

“The fact that Chertoff (the idiot who hired Brown) was the man who â€˜debunkedâ€™ these theories actually increases my belief that they may be correct.”

See, that makes you a conspiracy nut.

ARC: Brian
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September 16th, 2005 at 5:24 pm
ARC: StWendeler says:

But, there are photos of people standing in the impact areas (read â€œholes in building) of the World Trade Center buildings.

How can a human being stand that close to an 8,000 degree fire with out turning into a little crispy ball.

With the way the one building was hit, the top should have fell off the way the top of Crysler building down in the Movie Independance Dayâ€¦..to one side.

But they didnâ€™t do that. They did the same thing as all of the buldings I have seen the were intentionally raized. You know, the experts that take months to plan out just exactly how to raize a building to the ground with minimal damage to surrounding buildings?

I jsut wonder about this stuff.

Or, I could just go about life being a robotic automiton and obey my leadersâ€¦

I think I will keep asking questionsâ€¦.
More proof that you’re a conspiracy nut.

You expect the real world to mimic the physics depicted in a fargin MOVIE!!!

LOL

ROTFL!!!

Regards,
St Wendeler
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September 16th, 2005 at 5:29 pm
ARC: StWendeler says:

This site is incorrectly named…

There is no “progress” being discussed here…

There is no “thinking” taking place here…

But, keep asking your “questions” and “seeking truth”

Thank you and GOOD DAY!!!

St Wendeler
September 16th, 2005 at 5:31 pm
Marie says:

ARC:StWeneler sounds like Paul Harvey!
September 16th, 2005 at 5:45 pm
Ryan Neat says:

Why is it these repressed fags like MrWrong are always talking about drag queens and homosexuality? Because like hoover before him, he’s uncomfortable with his own sexuality and that of women, so he lashes out through his own insecurities and inadequacies and applies terms to others that he personally loathes.

See MrMoron, you can call me goddess, drag queen, or whatever you want, because unlike you I don’t fear the differences of others, nor do I question my own identity. If you wish to associate me with anyone in the spectrum of either masculinity or sexuality, that’s fine – because ‘all men/women are created equal’. Your prejudice, ignorance, bigotry and stupidity however is the only thing I find offensive…
September 16th, 2005 at 7:20 pm
I-RIGHT-I says:

Your prejudice, ignorance, bigotry and stupidity however is the only thing I find offensiveâ€¦

comment by party girl Ryan

Prejudice is a good thing when turned toward evil. Bigotry is just a word losers use when they really mean,”I demand you accept me the way I am and validate all my perversions”. Stupidity is acting as if an evil demented loser like you deserves equality or a fair chance.
September 16th, 2005 at 9:46 pm
Ryan Neat says:

“Prejudice is a good thing when turned toward evil. ”

But if this were true, then you’d be prejudiced against yourself, because what you say is always evil…
Prejudice is based on ignorance – but as an ignorant fool, you clearly don’t know this.

“Bigotry is just a word losers use when they really mean,â€I demand you accept me the way I am and validate all my perversionsâ€. Stupidity is acting as if an evil demented loser like you deserves equality or a fair chance.”

Wow, what a loser you truly are. To believe that it’s ok to be a bigot because you shouldn’t be required to understand, appreciate or recognize the valid opinions of others clearly shows you are beyond idiocy. CONservatism means never having say you’re sorry for your ignorance, bigotry and hate – because your prejudice ensures you that you have a right to be a stupid a$$. Well in your world of the freaks, delusional maniacs, criminally insane, and unpatriotic terrorists – I’m sure this is normal. The rest of the ‘real world’ knows you’re a hateful evil fool, who in his own delusion actually think he does good. How sad and pathetic you are – and how unworthy you are of calling yourself either a christian or an american. You are neither!
September 16th, 2005 at 11:29 pm
Ryan Neat says:

MrWrong,

Not only does repressed homosexually cause homophobia, it also manifests itself in paranoia. Considering how paranoid you are of ‘liberals’, ‘communists’, ‘islamists’, ‘athiests’, and anyone that challenges your stupid and illiterate world view – I would say you clearly suffer from this symptom as well…
September 16th, 2005 at 11:38 pm
kjlovell says:

Ryan- Ditto from me too! Well done again!
September 17th, 2005 at 12:49 am
Yeeha! says:

Texas Slay Rides for conservatives! Lemme wrap a noose around their necks a drag ‘em behind my pick’em up truck!
September 17th, 2005 at 12:50 am
I-RIGHT-I says:

ARC:StWeneler sounds like Paul Harvey!

Comment by Marie

A pissed off Paul Harvey maybe. Don’t you like Paul Marie?

Speaking of StW…Ryan check out his blog. Ryan that’s a blog. It’s his blog. He pays for it out of his own pocket and the ideas are his. It’s not at all like “your blog” is it? The only way it could be like “your blog” is if it was an arm of the Heritage Foundation and funded by someone on the right equally as odious to you as George Soros is to me….Carl Rove maybe?????

Personlally I don’t think Carl Rove fits the bill, he’s not odious enough. Who have we got with the billion$ George Schwartz has?
Who is the man behind the curtain for the Right with George’s qualifications:

George Soros

Hungarian businessman. Jewish; original family name is Schwartz.
Net worth estimated at $11B.
A man of enormous wealth and ability to deploy it in unexpected ways.
Partner in the Carlyle Group.
Was the owner of Harken Energy, and bought its declining shares so that George W Bush could make a million dollars. His reason to do that: “political influence.”
As currency speculator, cost the UK a billion dollars in one day.
Hated by Lyndon LaRouche.
Member, Council on Foreign Relations.

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/business/george-soros/

From the look of this bio you’d never guess the guy was funding Move On and the Open Society Policy Center as well as our beloved American Progress Action Fund.
September 17th, 2005 at 6:57 am
Susan says:

Thanks for the facts on the inside job everybody.
9-11 was an inside job and the facts prove it.

Bushie attacked our country and he needs to be arrested, detained, tortured and executed. Thats they way he would handle the situation so lets get them cuffs on his fat ol wrists.
September 17th, 2005 at 1:10 pm
mighty aphrodite says:

#61 – Ryan, you paranoid egomaniac!! When Mr. RIGHT addresses the “goddess” he’s not talking to you. What kind of grades did you get in your literature classes??
September 17th, 2005 at 1:15 pm
mighty aphrodite says:

“â€œPrejudice is a good thing when turned toward evil. – Comment by I-RIGHT-I â€

But if this were true, then youâ€™d be prejudiced against yourself, because what you say is always evilâ€¦
Prejudice is based on ignorance – but as an ignorant fool, you clearly donâ€™t know this. – Ryan Neat”

Ryan, you intellectual zygote – since the word “prejudice” means to “pre-judge” you might be correct if someone pre-judged without have pertinent info. However, when one can identify evil or immorality, to be opposed to such evil is noble, not as you wrongly claim, always ignorant. Do mitigating circumstances exist – sometimes – examine looting for food vs. looting electronics,jewelry and guns. Is killing a person always homicide – yes, but it’s not always murder. If you want to play in the intellectual sandbox, you might shed yourself of the humanistic tendency to shift the goalposts and dig deeper.
September 17th, 2005 at 1:54 pm
SpudgeBoy says:

Well, atleast you admit that I-RIGHT-I is evil. Cool!
September 17th, 2005 at 2:05 pm
drewtateforiowa! says:

Okay, this is an online plea.
Democracy for America is hosting an online competition for Progessive candidates and Bruce Braley, a strong candidate, needs to get in the top 10 to go on to the next round.
Hereâ€™s info. on Bruce: http://www.brucebraley.com/issues.asp

He is currently in 11th place!

Meanwhile, this guy http://www.glubaforcongress.com/ in the same district, a tired old fart whoâ€™s run for Congress 3 times and lost each, has somehow gotten up to #6.
I suspect foul play.

But please go vote http://www.democracyforamerica.com/
for Bruce. Heâ€™s the guy who can win us a seat in Congress and is someone we should all be excited about.
September 17th, 2005 at 2:06 pm
I-RIGHT-I says:

Heâ€™s the guy who can win us a seat in Congress and is someone we should all be excited about.

Comment by drewtateforiowa!

You losers need something to be excited about. Iowa…Yea!
September 17th, 2005 at 4:26 pm
SpudgeBoy says:

It’s better than getting excited about fvcking sheep the way you do.
September 17th, 2005 at 4:34 pm
mighty aphrodite says:

I-RIGHT-I, they NEED something, anything to get excited about – oh, yeah, they got excited about hundreds of thousands of people suffering in a storm – such a pathetic mindset – and Spongey, an example of true evil. (The left’s excitement over the possibility of up-ending President Bush w/ Katrina is an excellent example of a favourite lefty philosopher, “Karl, the ends DO justify the means!”)
September 17th, 2005 at 7:44 pm
I-RIGHT-I says:

they got excited about hundreds of thousands of people suffering in a storm – such a pathetic mindset

Comment by conservative Goddess

My love, it’s much worse than that. They were positively salivating at the early reports that there may be 10,000 or more dead in NO alone. Only floating bodies were making headlines.

Crazy as the Left is become, it’s most deranged aspect must be how it revels in dead Americans.
September 17th, 2005 at 8:35 pm
Ryan Neat says:

“hey got excited about hundreds of thousands of people suffering in a storm – such a pathetic mindset ”

I see that in that cold marble heart of yours, the plight of dying people from the ineptitude of your fellow crooks, and criminal conservatives means nothing. I’d rather be excited about helping others, than titilated only when images of looting were shown. We’re moved by suffering and compassion, you’re moved by greed and fear. That makes us human and you immoral greedy nut jobs…

Yeah I picked the correct part of the political spectrum you stupid freak!

“My love, itâ€™s much worse than that. They were positively salivating at the early reports that there may be 10,000 or more dead in NO alone. Only floating bodies were making headlines.
Crazy as the Left is become, itâ€™s most deranged aspect must be how it revels in dead Americans. ”

Actually you seem like you’re salivating at this prospect you freaky immoral beast. No one here were salivating at such a prospect – we were SCREAMING FOR YOU INCOMPETENT MORONS TO PREVENT IT. You were salivating at an opportunity to blame a governor and allow people to die so you could blame it as a ’state problem’. You guys are the most inhumane and unhuman assholes I’ve ever seen. You would make Goebels and your other Nazi Progenetors very happy. I’m sure people who complained about auschwitz were told they were salivating at the deaths as well if they had been given to chance to complain to the nazis. Your twisted since of reality is truly clinically insane, and so fascist that it astounds me you can call yourself either american or christian. But then again, most Nazis were also claimed to be christians, so I’m not surprised you fit their insane mental illness profile…

You ‘claim’ liberals are insane, just as you demonstrate that you ARE insane – if you could only see yourself through the eyes of others…
September 18th, 2005 at 3:14 am
I-RIGHT-I says:

I see that in that cold marble heart of yours, the plight of dying people from the ineptitude of your fellow crooks, and criminal conservatives means nothing.

Comment by Ryan Neat

Just one thing wrong with the above. It’s you who really don’t care or you’d place the blame where it belongs.

“Louisiana Officials Indicted Before Katrina Hit
# Federal audits found dubious expenditures by the state’s emergency preparedness agency, which will administer FEMA hurricane aid.

By Ken Silverstein and Josh Meyer, Times Staff Writers

WASHINGTON â€” Senior officials in Louisiana’s emergency planning agency already were awaiting trial over allegations stemming from a federal investigation into waste, mismanagement and missing funds when Hurricane Katrina struck.

And federal auditors are still trying to track as much as $60 million in unaccounted for funds that were funneled to the state from the Federal Emergency Management Agency dating back to 1998.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-money17sep17,1,5736422.story?coll=la-headlines-nation&ctrack=1&cset=true
September 18th, 2005 at 9:09 am
Ryan Neat says:

MrWrong,

Was that the SAME federal audit that confirmed no wrongdoing by the state in handling the emergency, yet put the blame squarely on FEMA? I always love how clueless you propagandist dolts are to relevant information.

Does it also mention how so many troops are in Iraq because of a trumped up war based on false evidence that otherwise would have been there? Does it also mention how the army corps of engineers proposed a plan to strengthen the levies to a cat 5 hurricane – but instead of approving it the prez cut their budgets?

Get a clue you murderous apologist! You are truly goebels man, and a chip of your nazi grandads block…
September 18th, 2005 at 3:04 pm
Ryan Neat says:

MrWrong,

An while we’re on extortion – half the money that halliburton stole and declared ‘missing’ would have more than covered the costs of the entire NOrleans upgrades… It’s called penny wise and generally foolish – but then that would describe you and your party on virtually every topic..
September 18th, 2005 at 3:06 pm
I-RIGHT-I says:

Was that the SAME federal audit that confirmed no wrongdoing by the state in handling the emergency, yet put the blame squarely on FEMA?

comment by Ryan “glutton for punishment” Neat

No. Therefore everything that followed that deliberate lie formed as a question is meaningless. Like you.

It’s just like the Filthy Left though to defend the most corrupt group of people this country has ever seen. Where’s the ACLU anyway? Why aren’t they down there protecting the rights of those criminals?
September 18th, 2005 at 6:10 pm
mighty aphrodite says:

I-RIGHT-I, do you recall “No one here were (sic) salivating at such a prospect – we were SCREAMING FOR YOU INCOMPETENT MORONS TO PREVENT IT,”? Guess I must have missed that!! Better get back to polishing my nerves of steel- poor Ryan was confused when he said “my cold, marble heart.”
September 18th, 2005 at 6:31 pm
Ryan Neat says:

“comment by Ryan â€œglutton for punishmentâ€ Neat”

So you’re also into S&M? Why do you feel you are ‘punishing me’, when clearly you’ve said nothing of value, importance, relevance or pain… Oh that’s right – because you’re a delusional idiot who has an over inflated sense of selfworth (and probably waistline to match) who has no grasp of reality! That’s right – thanks for reminding me fatass!
September 18th, 2005 at 7:02 pm
Ryan Neat says:

Since the ACLU had to defend your druggie limbaugh, and a republican mayor and republican activist head of the boys scouts were just ’stinged’ for kiddie porn – I’d say you’re in the right party to be a republican! You guys have more sexual deviants and freaks than a republican convention – oh wait, that’s the same thing!

As for salivating at riots and us deaths – wow you really are a stupid goddess! Your crown is surely cutting off blood to your brain! It is our side that want those poor boys out of harms way – it’s your side that keeps killing them! But then again, your delusional state won’t let any other facts in, I’m sure the fact that you’re a hate filled chickenhawk won’t penetrate either. If you feel so strongly about the mission of the troop, the only honorable thing would be for you to sign up! But then, since you’re a sleazy propagandist, you’d never put your money where your mouth is!
September 18th, 2005 at 7:06 pm
Ryan Neat says:

“Ryan was confused when he said â€œmy cold, marble heart.â€”

That’s true – it’s clear you don’t have a heart or a brain, but merely a ‘mouth’ that spouts propaganda… What a worthless use of space you are…
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