Mixed Messages From Iraq
Mixed Messages From Iraq
The LA Times reports today that Zarqawi’s al-Qaeda group in Iraq is growing in influence and support, primarily because it has begun attracting a large number of Iraqi nationals to its organization:
Zarqawi “is bringing more and more Iraqi fighters into his fold,” a U.S. official said, adding that Iraqis accounted for “more than half his organization.” … “They’re the best game in town, the most organized organization,” said a U.S. official, who added that Zarqawi’s network was also a “well-funded organization that is willing to pay people for their work” when many Iraqis, particularly police, have little or no income.
But the U.S. military spokesman in Iraq apparently hasn’t received the memo. From the Washington Post:
The top U.S. military spokesman in Iraq, Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, said the surge in bombings represented the kind of occasional spikes in attacks that the military has been expecting. Lynch told reporters, “Zarqawi is on the ropes.”
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I don’t understand, if the point of invading Iraq was to make it a safe country why can’t we catch Zarqawi. He’s the most dangerous person there.
September 16th, 2005 at 11:40 amThe Times of London has been doing extensive reporting over the last couple of days on the Zarqawi resurgence. Remember the spinners were telling us a couple of months ago that he was near dead and/or engaged in a power struggle for control of the insurgency.
September 16th, 2005 at 11:46 amThe only way to win the war is to DIVIDE the nationalist Sunnis and the Zarqawi crazies…
And the only way to do that is U.S. withdrawal. Is this so hard a concept to grasp ??
September 16th, 2005 at 11:50 amWHat a joke. How long do they think the the general public will continue to believe their lies. These terrorist organizations are not losing steam, they are getting stronger. We have either got to send in massive amounts of troops and take control of Iraq, as was finally done in New Orleans or we have to get the hell out of there.
Staying the course is not working.
Remember what master Yoda said:
“Do or do not, there is no try.”
We have got to stop trying in Iraq.
September 16th, 2005 at 11:52 amCORRECTION:
Most Americans (55%) Do grasp the concept that American withdrawal will calm down the Sunnis …
But politicians, Dems and Repugns alike DON’T …
http://www.workingforchange.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=5A9D2E8E-D40A-8033-C0F363DE5A4563CF
September 16th, 2005 at 11:53 amFaiz
You do great work on archiving. But the truth is so f*cking depressing, I read this and think that maybe the “son of satan” is really in charge. Then I read this about the tipping point of global warming:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article312997.ece
Has any of the “burn again” christians actually checked Bush’s (or Rove’s) scalp for the sign?
September 16th, 2005 at 11:53 amthere’s going to be a full-on suicide/military coordinated attack on the Green Zone.
Before year’s end.
Count on it.
100’s of dead.
…
Kelli Arena told me so. (that part is the joke part).
September 16th, 2005 at 12:04 pmI’m tired of duplicity.
September 16th, 2005 at 12:12 pmuhm…zaraqawi is a cia myth…
September 16th, 2005 at 12:23 pmGeoff, more specifically, zaraqawi is a neocon myth. The neocons gained control of the cia way back when.
September 16th, 2005 at 12:32 pmRemember junior’s words .. we must ’stay the course’.
Stay, so their contractors can imbezzle billions.
Why in the hell isn’t there a Democratic leader calling a press conference (or whatever the appropriate venue is)and rasing hell, pointing at the repeated lies, failures, crimes etc.?
September 16th, 2005 at 12:41 pmWhere is the opposition over the MSM airwaves?
Someone needs to call these fu*kers out, to their face.
I’d be laughing at this sort of crap if I wasn’t worn out from all the screaming.
Peace Lover, what was the name of the movie that inspired you to change your name?
September 16th, 2005 at 12:42 pmThere is a text book clandestine operation behind this whole thing.
As in Vietnam, the quickest way to cause an uprising or support for your opposition is to deprive the people of their basic needs, and in some dramatic cases force them into refuge.
Strip them of their food, water, fuel/energy and they become enraged and far more primal. Route out scores of them, in the name of ‘liberation’ and ‘attacking the insurgents’ and you create scores of insurgents in your wake; as the native people from cities like Falluja, and the current Ramadi flee to other cities where resources are already scarce to begin with.
This feeds the war machine, escalates the profiteering and at the same time creates the illusion for the public that we “are doing the right thing by attacking the insurgents.” Look up the historical use of the word “insurgents†and “insurgency.†You’ll find that it was used in precisely the same way in Vietnam as the war escalated.
“STATES ARE NOT MORAL AGENTS” – Chomsky
September 16th, 2005 at 12:45 pmDesperation! Corner! Throes, Last!
September 16th, 2005 at 12:49 pmPeace Lover, #10,
The CIA was created by Truman, who admitted that creating the CIA was perhaps the biggest mistake of his life. It gave “The Secret Team” or “The High Cabal” all the power it needed.
The CIA was created with the strong influence of Allen Dulles and his brother (Allen was head of the OSS in WWII, and eventually became head of the CIA – until Kennedy fired him – he was also on the Warren Commission – not a coincidence). These two played a huge role in smuggling vast numbers of Nazi intelligence personnel out of Germany at the end of the war. These men became the foundation of the ultra secret side of the CIA.
Go check this out: http://www.rense.com/general26/dutch.htm
September 16th, 2005 at 1:00 pmI think the CIA is necessary to have. What I don’t understand is why an agent has not put a heart attack pill into Rove’s coffee after outing one of them.
September 16th, 2005 at 1:17 pmAn “elephant in the room” that most people are ignoring is that when the guerilla fighter is not killed, he wins. The nature of guerilla warfare is strike and retreat. So far Zarqawi has been very successful with that tactic. And he will continue to have success as long as America insists on confronting him with conventional military means. As long as Sunnis are being marginalized, he has a virtual unlimited source of recruitment.
In 2001, Bush said, “I’m not going to fire a $2 million cruise missile at a $10 tent and hit a camel in the butt.” All that has changed is now they fire $1 million precision guided bombs at empty buildings that were evacuated by the insurgents hours before the strike, and repeatedly send in troops to retake towns that were evacuated by the insurgents hours before the troops arrive.
September 16th, 2005 at 1:25 pmThe same things were done in Vietnam 30 years ago, and got the same results. Those who don’t know history, are condemmed to repeat it
September 16th, 2005 at 1:32 pmI had my iPod on shuffle last night and it played “If I Had a Rocket Launcher” by Bruce Cockburn. Listen to that song to get an idea of what the average Iraqi must be thinking.
September 16th, 2005 at 1:34 pmThe CIA, amongst other things, is the biggest drug pushing organization in the world.
Late 1990’s
- Afghanistan is producing 55% of the worlds poppy seeds (used to make opium/heroin).
- Caspian Sea oil fields found, thought to be the biggest in the world, bigger then Saudi Arabia.
- Taliban requests far more money then we were willing to pay them for the pipeline through their country.
- We refuse the terms of their request, they eliminate ALL poppy seed production/harvesting. ALL OF IT, down to 0% of the world supply.
2001
- Bush takes office
- Economy slumping bad due to loss of the drug trade
- 9/11
- We invade Afghanistan
- Economy in the toilet
- Enron, Tyco etc. all go bankrupt
Late 2003
- Afghanistan is now producing 65% of the world poppy seeds.
- U.S. Economy on a rebound
The entire U.S. economy is underwritten with laundered drug money. A $700 billion to $1 trillion a year business. The secret side of the CIA heads up the operations.
Take out the drugs and money laundering, U.S. economy can’t stand on its own two feet.
September 16th, 2005 at 1:36 pmInstead, Bush put our national guardsmen in the middle of the desert to sit and wait until the bomb planted in the camel’s butt explodes on them.
September 16th, 2005 at 1:36 pmSome food for thought:
Sep 16 1920
A horse-drawn carriage parked at the corner of Wall and Broad streets suddenly explodes just past mid-day. 100 pounds of dynamite hurls 500 pounds of steel shrapnel into a crowd of New Yorkers, killing 40 and wounding almost 300 others. No one is ever charged in the world’s first car bombing.
Somebody wasn’t happy about something back then.
flip flop, it never stops.
September 16th, 2005 at 1:49 pm#17 I clearly recall that quote from GW in 200l. You correctly point out that we are repeating history.
September 16th, 2005 at 2:11 pm#18 observes the same.
The White House crime family refuses to believe their own eyes. They don’t open their minds fully enough to see that what they are doing has been done before, and unsuccessfully. They think they have all the answers.
The only way I see to regain credibility in the world and our own integrity is to take over the Congress in 2006, and work to not only impeach the crime family, but try them in a court of law.
The world would be witness to the strength of democracy.
Democracy is not forced, it is taught by example.
I remember a couple of times when ALI was on the ropes, but it was because the other guy was leaning into him to keep from falling. Both of those quotes could be true, but the on the ropes comment doesn’t necessarily mean he’s loosing, it could mean we’ve stumbled so badly we’re almost out for the count…
People who use boxing metaphors like rumsfeld should take the time to realize they don’t always have just one meaning… But then again, maybe he did so he could justify lying so opening and blatantly.
September 16th, 2005 at 2:25 pmHow about the fact that ALI used to intentionally go to the ropes to make his opponent think he was tired or going down. He called it the “rope-a-dope.” That name describes the Bush administration perfectly. They are a bunch of dopes that think the insurgents are on the ropes.
September 16th, 2005 at 2:31 pmMarie, #23,
The White House knows exactly what they are doing, and they are extremely successful at it. They are following orders, only a couple of them are actually giving them though. My money is on Cheney and Rove. The rest of the orders come from The Cabal. I don’t think anyone else in the public eye actually has any real power. Though I’m likely wrong.
It’s been this way for 100 years or more, it will never change. Congress is the same way, no matter who are in the seats.
September 16th, 2005 at 2:39 pmIt all comes down to who you’re going to believe. The LA paper and their “highly placed source who wishes to remain in the shadows someplace in Orange County, or one of our green army men on the ground in Iraq. Never mind.
September 16th, 2005 at 3:24 pmFriday Grab Bag
Big post today. Lots of links. Wide range, from serious to funny. Enjoy
September 16th, 2005 at 3:27 pmMrWrong,
How would you know what those guys in the ground in Iraq see? Any that post a dissenting opinion, or that post specifics that disagree with the administrations lies and propaganda are in fact charged with a crime! There was a blogging soldier who was arrested earlier this month because he kept posting corrections of administration lies.
But then since you’re a propagandist, you probably prefer to read and believe the lies, so this is all wasted on you of course.
So to everyone else – the administration OFFICIALLY has a policy of lying on all issues that make them look bad, David Brooks outted this policy this week. So who should you believe? Anyone BUT the administration or its propagandist whores (MrWrong)… They are unamerican, and don’t realize as a democracy THEY WORK FOR US, THEREBY WE DESERVE THE TRUTH… Since they think they’re running a fascist dictatorship (their goal), they don’t believe in america, they believe in AmuriKKKa…
September 16th, 2005 at 3:30 pmNobody here believes their elementary wit. They just desperately need the attention. You know, mommy wasn’t there, blah, blah.
September 16th, 2005 at 4:04 pmYou mean these people:
Never talk to ‘terrists’:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/26/AR2005062600096.html
Just these guys
‘Last throes’? Er no:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8330207/
Who do you believe I-RightArmRaised-I? Come on, read your playbook again and do better next time: http://www.crusader.net/texts/mk/mkv1ch06.html
September 16th, 2005 at 4:05 pm“How would you know what those guys in the ground in Iraq see?”
They send back pictures and write about their experiences. There’s a large number of them.
“Any that post a dissenting opinion, or that post specifics that disagree with the administrations lies and propaganda are in fact charged with a crime! There was a blogging soldier who was arrested earlier this month because he kept posting corrections of administration lies.”
Private Clark sounds like a little weasel endangering the lives of his fellow troops. He’s lucky he was only busted in rank and not fragged by some pissed off marine. But take a look, he thinks he’s the new John Kerry. I bet he’s even got films of himself all dressed up like a fighting man for his “candid” war hero in action posters for his next run at elective office.
Clark violated Article 92 by “releasing classified information regarding unit soldiers and convoys being attacked or hit by an improvised explosive devices on various dates, discussing troop movements on various dates,†according to the statement. He also was found to have released tactics, techniques, procedures and rules of engagement, MCF-Iraq said.
The two Article 134 specifications had to do with releasing specific sensitive information “that the enemy forces could foreseeably access … such that with that information it was likely that the enemy forces could cause death or serious bodily harm to U.S. forces engaged in the same or similar mission,†the statement said.
Clark and his site’s Webmaster did not return several e-mails and phone calls seeking comment.
It is unclear what information was actual put online. Clark’s blog has been purged of all past posts. An entry claiming not to be on behalf of Clark and offering links to articles about Clark remains on the site.
In civilian life, Clark is a kindergarten teacher, activist and perennial candidate for public office. In the Guard, he is a member of the 860th Military Police Company. The Arizona Republic reported Clark, a Democrat, filed papers to run for the U.S. Senate seat held by Republican Jon Kyl. Clark previously ran for the Arizona House of Representatives and state Senate.
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1003245.php
September 16th, 2005 at 4:37 pmWho do you believe I-RightArmRaised-I? Come on, read your playbook again and do better next time: http://www.crusader.net/texts/mk/mkv1ch06.html
Comment by Terrytheturtle
At first I thought you might be a little smarter than the average bone through the nose left wing slacker. I was wrong.
September 16th, 2005 at 4:40 pmI thought you might not be a Nazi – I was wrong.
September 16th, 2005 at 4:45 pmHis is a whimpering little child.
Don’t feed that fvcking trool anymore.
September 16th, 2005 at 4:56 pm#26 – That is even more sinister, Elvis.
September 16th, 2005 at 5:09 pmI have been around the block a few times and I have seen a lot of politics — this crime family is truly the worst I have ever seen.
I enjoy reading your posts.
I thought you might not be a Nazi – I was wrong.
Comment by Terrytheturtle
No, you are.
September 16th, 2005 at 5:11 pmDamn! I meant to change my name in #36.
September 16th, 2005 at 5:11 pmHis is a whimpering little child.
Don’t feed that fvcking trool anymore.
Comment by Spudge-Boy
Translation: “I hate being called Skid Mark.”
September 16th, 2005 at 5:12 pmDiebold insider confirms that diebold machines are ‘insecure’ and that they are easily hacked for elections…
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001838.htm
MrWrong the fascist keeps claiming it’s fantasy that the election was stolen, yet an insider dubbed ‘dieb-throat’ talks about the mechanics of how the machines are hacked, and in fact the security flaws are known and registered with the US-CERT security organization. And despite this it appears that swing areas that suspiciously went for bush without polling numbers to back it up used those insecure machines – what are the chances?
Once again, the truth shows the reichwing is so anti-democratic that they don’t even trust their own ‘product’ to convince americans they’re doing the right thing – they have to STEAL the election out of their own psychotic weaknesses.. What a tragic and pathetic creature you are must dumbwrong…
September 16th, 2005 at 7:14 pmIt’s convenient that anyone who tells the opposing side and documents it with pictures, evidence and concrete details is arrested, and you in your nazi habits think that’s a good think. You’re a fascist moron, thanks for demonstrating this once again. And your ready retrieval of this information makes me quite convinced that you’re a paid pentagon propagandist whose job is to lie professionally to the detriment of our troops and our national security. Shame on you for your treasonous acts! You work for us, and we deserve the truth, not propaganda and lies. You shame this country and you shame yourself with your unpatriotic acts!
September 16th, 2005 at 7:17 pm“Zarqawi is on the ropes.” I suspect what Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch REALLY meant was that Zarqawi is in his “LAST THROES.” Lynch simply slipped up on his terminology.
September 16th, 2005 at 7:43 pmWith words of support like Major General Lynch just put out about Zarqawi, I bet Bush and Rummy give him a medal AND another star. It one thing to try and hold up the moral of our troops and give hope—its quite another to lie when the facts say otherwise. I’ll start believing that rhetoric when they finally drag in bin Laden’s dead ass in Afganistan.
September 16th, 2005 at 8:47 pmMrWrong the fascist keeps claiming it’s fantasy that the election was stolen, yet an insider dubbed ‘dieb-throat’ talks about the mechanics of how the machines are hacked,….
comment by Ryan, Art Bell’s butt boy
It was stolen. We just stole it back. By the way, that deep throat shit really hits you where you live doesn’t it?
September 16th, 2005 at 10:08 pm“It was stolen. We just stole it back. By the way, that deep throat shit really hits you where you live doesn’t it?”
You know homophobia is a clear sign of either being a repressed homosexual or pedophelia – either way you’re one messed up pathetic piece of work.
See the difference between you and us, is that we don’t need to steal the elections to win, but you do… Just like you need to constantly accuse others of being gay, so you don’t have to deal with the fact that you’re uncomfortable with your own repressed gay sexuality. If you are gay, just come out of the closet and hopefully you can get over these freak expressions of your identity. Of course it didn’t help mehlman, but then again he’s not fully out of the closet either is he?
September 16th, 2005 at 11:24 pmThe Iraq Army: Almost ready for 2 years now!
September 17th, 2005 at 12:23 pm#39
Names have never hurt me. You can’t tell by my abrasive comments towards NeoCons, such as yourself. Yeah, who would expect a dumbass like you to get anything.
September 17th, 2005 at 4:32 pmI’ve heard this before. Zarqawi is dead.
September 17th, 2005 at 5:48 pmYou mean the democracy and freedom we are setting up is in jeapordy? But Vice President Cheney said on CNN on May 31st of this year that the insurgency was “in its last throes.” He is our #2 leader and he wouldn’t deliberately mislead the public.
He probably didn’t take into consideration that from the 22 terrorist attacks in 2003 to 198 last year alone, there was a 900% increase. Evidently neither did his trained parrots, Rummy and Myers who echoed those some basic sentiments within days. As for Bush, he was probably on vacation and didn’t have a clue anyway.
September 17th, 2005 at 6:43 pmWhen Crash-Cart Cheeney said the insurgents are in their last throes, did he actually mean the U.S. insurgents?
Looks like and smells like all out civil war over there. Mission Accomplished dumbya!
September 20th, 2005 at 12:53 pmHalliburton, making a killing.
This war is costing an arm and a leg…. thousands of them!
September 20th, 2005 at 12:54 pmLooks like and smells like all out civil war over there. Mission Accomplished dumbya!
Comment by kjlovell
“A suicide bomber captured before he could blow himself up in a Shiite mosque claimed he was kidnapped, beaten and drugged by insurgents who forced him to take on the mission. The U.S. military said its medical tests indicated the man was telling the truth.
His story was similar to those recounted by other captured militants. The captives routinely claim they were either coerced or fooled by insurgent leaders who promised them a role in the holy war against the U.S. military, only to find themselves as would-be suicide bombers sent to attack civilians.”
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/4991249/detail.html
There’s no better example of the “Big Lie” than the desperate and shameless pretense of the Filthy Left than we’re losing an unjust war.
September 21st, 2005 at 9:26 pmThe big lie is that we’re winning. The casualty rates prove this to be wrong as do countless international press people that cover. MrAlwaysWrong desperately lies to help the troops, when in fact his lies only harm them.
The truth is that MrAlwaysWrong is just passing on more republican lies, and yet in his psychosis he either refuses to see or accept the truth…
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/092305D.shtml
For instance, how many of the american soldiers currently in Iraq would be there if our military didn’t ‘coerce’ them to do so. No one wants to die, including iraqis. And yet more of them seem willing to do so than americans, all the while the continue to kill our troops. The reality is we are losing some worse than the war, we are losing any remaining respect and trust of the Iraqis because we came so poorly prepared. Good military leadership at the pentagon told Rumsfeld and the other head up there a$$ neocons (they all are like MrWrong – all talk no listen) that ~4 times as many troops would be needed as were allocated – and they were right. The fact is we could have actually won the peace despite the illegal nature of the war, if the administration hadn’t been run by inept chickenhawk republicans like MrAlwaysWrong and AlwaysIncompetent.
September 24th, 2005 at 4:17 amArguing about Zarqawi is nonsense. First of all, he doesn’t exist; he’s just a sort of Fu Manchu the administration cooked up to make the Al Qaida tie-in. Secondly, even the major proponents of the war have finally been forced to admit that the vast majority of the insurgents are Iraqis, not so-called “foreign fighters.”
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