Media Hallucinated ‘Thoughtful’ Bush Commentary on Race
Media Hallucinated ‘Thoughtful’ Bush Commentary on Race
It has become conventional wisdom that President Bush used his address on Thursday to speak candidly and meaningfully about the role of race in Katrina’s aftermath, and in America generally. A Lexis search finds more than 300 references mentioning race in the context of Bush’s speech in the last two days. A few instances:
CNN anchor Miles O’Brien: “It was an important prime time speech in the wake of Katrina with lots to say about aid, rebuilding, about the role of race.” [CNN, 9/16/05]
MSNBC anchor Lester Holt: “If you took [his statement on race] by itself that would almost sound like it was coming from a liberal.” [MSNBC, 9/16/05]
New York Times editorial: “He spoke clearly and candidly about race and poverty.” [NYT, 9/16/05]
Given this kind of media treatment, it’s worth noting that Bush’s 3,300-word speech actually contained just a single, 19-word sentence about race. Even more notable, that one sentence describes racial discrimination in the past tense:
As all of us saw on television, there’s also some deep, persistent poverty in this region, as well. That poverty has roots in a history of racial discrimination, which cut off generations from the opportunity of America.
President Bush’s commentary on race wasn’t candid and thoughtful. It was peripheral and insulting. Someone tell the media.
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Sick, sick, sick.
September 17th, 2005 at 6:48 pmDidn’t you hear? Racism ended on February 12, 1986. Clearly you didn’t pay attention in history class.
September 17th, 2005 at 6:50 pmBush’s triangulation — Admit racism USED to be an issue to appease the leftists, say racism IS OVER to please the insane right-wing loons.
September 17th, 2005 at 6:51 pmSome more well rehearsed talking points by the former whiskey swilling coke head now turned boy-king bullshitter.
September 17th, 2005 at 7:01 pmAgain, it is a question of semantics. There used to be racism in this country when the Damn Yankees couldn’t afford slaves so they started an illegal war to get control of the cotton in the South. We may have lost the war but we solved the slavery and racism problem–we just called it Wellfare and let the Yankees pay them. The only problem was we couldn’t make them work any more. So who can blame us Good-old-boy Rednecks, Texans, and Absolutely Not Southern Babtists for waiting to see how many of those po’ black folk could get out of “Norlens” to see their maker before we had to come rescue their dumb black asses. There is no racism because we now only have one Repug race.
September 17th, 2005 at 7:15 pmI just had a BIG agrument with my dad over this very thing. Didn’t get anywhere. You know, Bush addressed the racism and took responsibility. Good enough for old dad. *Banging head on desk*
September 17th, 2005 at 7:16 pmIt was pure Rove
The table has been set with mouthing a “liberal” rebuilding of the Gulf Coast. But…
It will be pure GOP; free enterprise zones, tax “rebates”, wage freeze, corporate welfare, and if you act now we will throw in…
Now we all know karl and his herpatic ways. So, do you think he will package all the above in such a way that guarantees that Dems will say “no f**king way” a vote against it? Of course he will…
Do we all remember the 2002 mid-term? Well I do, and I remember the packages that were sent to congress was full of GOP rot. Like the provision of gutting the federal employee unions. Remember the Dems that voted against their puss filled legislation? Of course not, because the skels killed them on “traitor voted against America” and they were voted out of office. So, let us fast forward to 2006…
Commercial of GOP targeting a Dem running for re-election, backdrop of NO with body floating in background “Congresswoman Liberal voted against helping American relief and rebuilding efforts, do you really want Congresswoman Liberal to be voting when you need help†Paid for by the bloated puss bags who just gang raped your daughter…
September 17th, 2005 at 7:27 pmDon’t mess with that Boy. DUHbya is just as happy as a dead pig under a new wagon!
Check out his new book at
http://www.storytimedolls.net/mmff.html
September 17th, 2005 at 7:29 pmToo funny, Clyde.
September 17th, 2005 at 8:11 pmThe media seems to be practicing “the soft bigotry of low expectations.”
David Kaiser
September 17th, 2005 at 8:15 pmAnd Gov. Blanco’s Democratic response today to Bush’s radio speech urged us to stop pointing fingers. She’s trying to cover her own butt for her own reign of error, I think. Meanwhile, the ReThugs preside over the Iraqification/privatization of America. Dead bodies in the streets of NOLA are no one’s responsibility. We have to start at the grassroots and run for local office and work our way up. Teach people to stop consuming and become actual citizens.
September 17th, 2005 at 8:16 pmYou have it all wrong. Bush is not racist against African Americans and the poor in general. He is racist against everyone in the world who are not included in his small circle of extremely wealthy bastards.
September 17th, 2005 at 8:20 pmeveryone on the news is acting so surprised about this. they are patting this guy on the back for this one line being poor, black and not having a shot. being poor doesnt discriminate, poverty has had roots in all kinds of racial discrimination.
September 17th, 2005 at 8:23 pmisnt this somthing we all know?
the media jumps on it as if it were a story,
how about some, no bid contracts, 200 billion dollars here 200 billion there, what exactly are you building in new orleans? how will we be getting these people back to their homes?
instead they choose to pounce all over the race issue. its like a huge plume of smoke,and poof bush is thoughtful, this is the story the , “Media Hallucination”.
Well, now we know that Bush has solved the problems of racism and poverty in this country. All the “underprivileged” have been moved to the luxurious Houston Astrodome, where things are (chuckle) “working out quite well for them.” Except for losing all their possessions, their jobs, their homes, and in some cases, their family members.
Problem solved! Public housing with a Jumbotron! God Bless Bush!
It reminds me of the Wall Street Journal editorial a few years back that referred to those who made less than $15k per year for a family of four as “lucky ducks” because their tax burden was nonexistent!
September 17th, 2005 at 8:35 pmWhat is so wrong with admitting one made a mistake? I have been betting on college and pro football for over 50 years. I either won or lost. If I won it was because of my brilliant intuitive mentality; if I lost it was because the referee was an asshole. Bull Shit! If I won I was lucky; if I lost I was dumb. The whole idea is to move forward, not point fingers. That is where the “Monday Morning Quarterback” came to be the new man on the team. “IF IDA” never won a football game or any other prize. The Repubs will not even admit that “IF IDA” done this we would have ..etc. They can only say “IF YOUDA” done this we would not look like “IF IDA” assholes. They not only look like Assholes, they are Assholes! It is all my fault: “IF IDA” campaigned for more votes Hillary would be president.
September 17th, 2005 at 8:36 pmBush didn’t write speech and is a puppet that doesn’t have a brain! Why do you think he was chosen? He doesn’t feel any thing. He is a cold, mentally unbalanced ,man.
September 17th, 2005 at 8:46 pmHis lack of leadership should scare everyone to death!! Also you will see he lies about all he said he will do in rebuilding NO. And he is a racist. By actions not words.
MSNBC anchor Lester Holt: “If you took [his statement on race] by itself that would almost sound like it was coming from a liberal.†[MSNBC, 9/16/05]
WTF? Lester Holt is black! ROFL!!!
How much did the WH pay him to say this?
September 17th, 2005 at 8:57 pmAn old saying,”A single rose does not a summer make.” This myopic moron of a president, I refuse to capitalize the word in his case, speaks one line about racism and it is viewed as an epiphany. In fact all he’s doing is throwing some red meat to the blood hounds he’s been hearing baying in the distance. So far he’s lost two sky scrapers in NY, a six foot four arab on dialysis, a war that has generated more terrorists then have existed in the last hundred years, a major American metropolis, the respect of most of the world, a balanced budget, a country that is owned mostly by foreign banks, freedom to travel by most of our citizens because of high gas prices, the Geneva Convention principles, Christian charity & an infrastructure that is crumbling. He still has three and a half years to go. In the thirities there were Hoovervilles built because the poor and unemployed had no where to go. You better get ready for Bushvilles. At this rate the next three years will make the thirties seem like the fifties.
September 17th, 2005 at 9:13 pmOn March 20, 2005, George W. Bush rapidly returned to Washington from another Crawford vacation so he could intervene in the Terry Schiavo case by signing Republican legislation requiring doctors to restore Schiavo’s feeding tube.
Too bad for you Gulf Coast victims, I don’t have the time or the energy to save thousands of lives. GWB
September 17th, 2005 at 9:43 pm… but getting back to the subject of this issue. Does anybody really believe that the government delayed response because the residents that couldnt/wouldnt evacuate were black?
September 17th, 2005 at 10:18 pmThe comment was out there (I think it was Tweety Matthews) that W ’sounded like FDR’.
September 17th, 2005 at 10:20 pmWell, the difference was that FDR MEANT IT.
#21 … but getting back to the subject of this issue. Does anybody really believe that the government delayed response because the residents that couldnt/wouldnt evacuate were black?
I do, and I’m not black.
http://tinyurl.com/8vhth, per Kevin Drum.
September 17th, 2005 at 10:28 pmSo pol-
September 17th, 2005 at 10:34 pmWhat would the White House stand to gain by delaying a response to N.O. because the majority of people there were black? Anything? Just another sadistic move by Bush meant to satisfy none but his rich white developer buddies who will sweep in, buy up the land and put up nice big houses that the current residents cant afford?
2bit#21, you bet I do, I know it. Bush is a bigot against blacks, poor whites and any one not in his wealthy circle. Five day’s, I was sending out emails to senators and governors to help the south, before the storm hit and when it was showing up on CNN. I was watching and typing, screaming and crying and that basterd and all his buddies were out to lunch or on vacation. Canada, Walmart, the salvation army and many others were in gear and doing all they could. Check out the time lines. My t.V. was on 24/7. The worst president and administration in our countrys history.I left out some of the dreadful stuff but these guy’s have done it on purpose and bet their next trick is to take all the land they can away from most of the people down there and use it for oil lines, refineries and condos for their rich friends. Brownie will probably get a condo on a top floor, considering how they do things with this gang…..Blessings
September 17th, 2005 at 10:47 pmYeah well-
As much as I don’t like W, this line could have been lifted from a speech that Bill Clinton would have made years ago. These two lines were meaningful and true. And they pack a whallop. I have to say I disagree with the conclusion that “he is refering to things in the past.” Yes he is referring to things in the past, but they got to the heart of the problems we face in this country regarding our racial divide.
I don’t understand why you are jumping on W for saying this, especially when there are twenty million other things you should be jumping on. I guess I just think everybody who posted here is a knee jerk reactionary. My questions about it are many:
1) WHy hasn’t boy genius said this before? (and often)
2) Why does it take sinking poll numbers, actually dropping like a rock, especially among blacks, to actually seem to force him to tell the truth for even a sentence or two, which he finally did?
3) Why aren’t you guys talking about the real possibility that W and Cheney and Rove planned to deny aid to NOLA for five days in order to “clean out the projects”
4) Why are you wasting time criticising this part of a speech and not going after W like gangbusters for lying us into a war
5) Why won’t you spend some time thinking or writing about how global warming is causing hurricanes to get bigger because they can draw more energy off of the ever increasing temperature of the Gulf of Mexico water
But the fact of the matter is you have to recognize truth when it hits you square in the face, and for once he finally told it. I am surprised that you would jump on him for this when its the truth in the middle of all of his other lies. ???
To the twenty or so people who posted comments - You either have too much time on your hands or you are not focused properly.
If the MSM report the truth you shouldn’t jump on them for that. It’s the lie that gets them. Go after the lies.
selah-
Judd
September 17th, 2005 at 10:57 pm… but getting back to the subject of this issue. Does anybody really believe that the government delayed response because the residents that couldnt/wouldnt evacuate were black?
Let’s put it this way… if this level of damage had been inflicted upon Kennebunkport, I think you’d have seen a quicker response. I won’t call it overt racism… just benign neglect. Besides, didn’t you see the quote from the Rethug congressman about how they “finally cleaned up public housing in New Orleans?”
September 17th, 2005 at 11:00 pmgeez, the media always backs up whoever is in poweer. You dems are just as bad as the GOP….
September 17th, 2005 at 11:02 pmso there wasnt a chance that N.O. accepted the risk to live with a levee system that couldnt withstand a CAT 5 huricane while at the same time never created (or at least never initiated) a mobilization of every means of transportation available to perform a manditory evacuation before the hurricane hit? Seems as if the local government (mayor/governor) lived with risks and just hoped for the best.Instead of being pro-active to get their people to safety prior to the storm hitting, all they do is complain because the government could get all of their people out after the flood.
September 17th, 2005 at 11:02 pmyeah the media really backed up Clinton during the 90’s… With friends like those, who needs enemies?
-Judd
September 17th, 2005 at 11:13 pmHey, Clyde. If you want a theocracy, get your ass over to Iran. They got one going already.
We don’t need one here in the USA.
September 18th, 2005 at 12:02 amThe media is criminally complicit in the crimes of our madman “president”. Think of Wolf Blitzer practically cumming in his pants during the nightmare of Bush’s “shock and awe” campaign. The rest of the world knows that American media is nothing but a joke. Aruba, Michael Jackson, the runaway bride, etc… Pitiful.
September 18th, 2005 at 12:05 amThe media have been kissing Bush’s ass since the 2000 campaign. He was incoherent when he spoke. His debate answers were simplistic and childish, but they loved him and excused every gaffe. He could do no wrong. He hasn’t changed, yet they continue to excuse him. They were tough on him right after the hurricane when his response was both aloof and tardy. But then he said he accepted responsibility! He acknowledged race was a factor in poverty! The media will now prepare the feast for the prodigal son. As if his saying the words actually means anything. But he said the words! So they speak glowingly of him, and before long everyone in America will think he is just a wonderful man.
September 18th, 2005 at 12:23 amA poorly written and substance-free speech, given by a careless and desperate politcian, delivered in front of an eerie backdrop before a camera and with no audience, thoughtlessly executed with the teasing of temporary electrical power quickly removed once he left the area. This is our president George Bush - a sham, an incompetent, unfit and clueless leader.
One of the more transparent aspects of President Bush’s speech from New Orleans last night was its cynical outreach to African-Americans. Trying to break the stereotype of his administration and his party as modern day Confederates, Bush spoke eloquently of race and poverty in the Katrina disaster. Unfortunately, Bush’s makeover as born-again racial healer simply isn’t credible, given his own penchant for racial stereotypes…
For the full story, see:
“The Bush Speech in Black and White.”
September 18th, 2005 at 12:46 amI was born and raised a middle-class white person, and I believe that bushco refused to help the victims left behind more because they were not rich, but I also believe that racism certainly did have a part in the repugs refusal to help those poor souls.
September 18th, 2005 at 12:51 am# 33 Marie-
Well put. I agree with you 100% - except for the two lines they are criticizing here - Since that is the topic of the post - that is what I have a problem with. Those were actually good lines. I can’t remember ever ever ever hearing ANY republican say them. It’s actually quite remarkable.
I took “Economics of Black America” in college. Turned out to be a great class. W just summed it up in one sentence. I am not applauding him for anything, but I believe that the MSM has got this one right (for a change.)
I hate to be a pest but I don’t want anybody on the left to waste any time complaining about this part of the speech for the love of Pete! If I saw Bill Clinton read those two lines in one of his speeches I would say par for the course (well done). If you disagree let me know. I hope the original poster will read this and realize he/she jumped the gun.
-Judd
September 18th, 2005 at 12:55 amIt lip service… Mr. Bush’s words have not matched his deeds in anything other than tax cuts and gutting environmental protections.
The minions of Bushies will lap it up…
September 18th, 2005 at 12:56 amits time for bush to go
great editorial poublished by Baltimore Sun…must read
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/090905M.shtml
September 18th, 2005 at 1:10 amanyone that believed one word of bush’s speech(s) - I want you to know I have some lakefront property in New Orleans I’d like to sell you - cheap
September 18th, 2005 at 1:33 amOn the subject, No I don’t believe the government delayed response because the residents that couldnt/wouldnt evacuate were black? I believe they delayed response because 1.) there are a bunch of incompetant assholes (appointed by Bush) running the federal government, and 2.) these assholes really don’t care if a bunch of poor people drown like rats.
Further, if something like this were to happen in Kennebunkport, you wouldn’t see this sort of massive human misery. The residents there would have just loaded up the SUVs, gassed up with a credit card, and checked into a nice hotel for a while.
True, most of the people in Kennebunkport are white, and also true that most of the people in inter-city New Orleans were black but the neglect of the citizens of inter New Orleans didn’t happen because of their skin color; it happened because of their economic class.
I don’t think Bush is a racist, he is an elitist. Poor people, be they black, white, brown, or purple are just for doing the grunt work in Bush’s reality. They are expendable modules that get cheaper everyday because they keep pouring into the country from Mexico (the Wal-Mart for the Labor Department) so what difference does it make if a few hundred - or a few thousand - drown in their own feces in New Orleans.
September 18th, 2005 at 1:33 amChimpy to the rescue, “TAKE COVER!”
Watch this animation! You will either laugh or cry, maybe both.
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=276313
Then click on “Bush Parody” to view.
September 18th, 2005 at 1:33 amYou know, I honestly do not want my president to be
September 18th, 2005 at 1:40 aman embarrassment. I want to be proud of the man that
leads my country. I want to go to sleep feeling safe.
I want to know that I will wake up feeling secure, life
will be normal when I wake up.
Life is not normal for way too many people. Help make us feel good about our selves and about our lives.
It has to change.
Three points, one racism is not an issue of the past. It is still alive and well, non whites do not get equal access to credit, housing and jobs (every time someone does a “color” blind test of this, the results are the same, non whites are treated less well, this is true generally, but especially true for black folk). So no one deserves credit for talking about past discrimination rather than present and ongoing discrimination (de facto, not de jure).
Second, would the government have reacted differently if we were talking about white people instead of mostly black people? Yes and no. There is evidence that poor people generally were abandoned in all of the areas hit by Katrina, and a fair number of them were poor whites, not just poor black people. The government under both parties has pretty much abandonded the poor. But would they have jumped quicker if it was mainly white people we saw on the television screen crying for water? Most likely, partially out of prejudice and partially because white folks are their constituents. The reaction of the government suggested that they considered poor blacks of little consequence. (They ignored the poor white folks as well, but remember they were reacting to television, not to reality.) Their initial reaction was, we must contain these criminals. That is the racism.
Finally, was the media too kind to Bush? Of course. It got out of control for moment and actually let some criticism slip in, but really. Do any of you really believe you have a “free” media? Or an independent one?
Any true Bush believers can send me $100.00 and I will tell them the real story behind the liberal media conspiracy!
September 18th, 2005 at 3:12 amThe initial estimates of the death toll in NO as reported by FEMA and carried as a thread here was 40,000. Given, at that time the only people left in the city were mostly black, all poor, and all on some sort of Government dole you can bet your sweet ass that the actuarial tables projecting the amount of the tax cut for the elitists as a function of each hour’s delay were getting a full workout. Those people were not deserted because they were black, they were not deserted because they were poor. They were left there because they did not pay taxes and were a drain on the money the Bushco’s could use for better purposes. If it were not for the caring people in this country that put the pressure on the Bushco they would still be there floating about in the wake of the boats fixing the oil system.
September 18th, 2005 at 4:33 am#36 Judd,
September 18th, 2005 at 10:03 amI appreciate your positive comments and I see that we are indeed of similar opinion. There is little fault to be had with Bush’s words - although they could be parsed - but I am dismayed that the press has already found those few words in Bush’s speech as reason to return to the adoration (like teenage girls at a concert) of the past 5 years.
#42, For a long time, the feelings you express in your comment were very much the same as my own. But after years of disasters, blunders, lies, and secrecy, I realize that nothing remotely resembling those feelings will ever happen under Republican administration. He has fostered hopelessness.
September 18th, 2005 at 10:10 amBush&Co. must go.
Marie #42 Again I agree. Nothing Bush say’s is the truth. The only truth is you can bet he and his bunch will make sure the out come is exactly opiset and the Dem’s will be at fault. Again we must hope with media coverage we are able to wake up the rest of the country to see the lies. Hope the rally on the 24th goes well..Be safe….Blessings
September 18th, 2005 at 11:24 amGood God, what in the hell is all of this bullshit about ‘he said’ or ‘he talked’?
September 18th, 2005 at 11:45 amThat piece of shit didn’t write the fuc*ing speach. Those are not his words or his plans or his feelings or anything else.
Anyone that thinks he was in any way responsible for anything that was spit out of his shit eating pie hole, IS hallucinating.
Anyone want suggestions for change?
September 18th, 2005 at 11:57 amI’ve got a damn good suggestion for change.
I’m afraid if I list it here tho, I won’t be able to support my family from the jail cell.
The only ones that truly believe racism is over are the racists themselves.
Racism hasn’t ended, now they just hate you in a whisper. Not to your face.
I see it daily, the hypocrits say they are not racist and in the next breath they make some comment about a person of color, or foregin person. Geez….
It took years to make people bigots. It is totally environmental. If you don’t believe me, just put a black child and a white child in a room and you’ll see NO RACISM they will play, share and laugh. Let them get a little older and the white one will look at the black one a little differently.
September 18th, 2005 at 1:48 pm“They have to be carefully taught.”
September 18th, 2005 at 2:15 pmMost of you comment as though you think the shrub wrote this speech. Far and away from the truth.
The speech was written by some hereitage foundation guy under the close supervision of kkkkkarl rove.
It was the shrub could do to mouth the words from a written script in front of his eyes.
The man is a useless bastard idiotic cocaine sniffing alcoholic desperately in need of a 12 step program to help him get over his dry drunk stage although I am firmly convinced he still drinks, and still sniffs.
September 18th, 2005 at 2:21 pmMost american middle class people are so because of government programs. These include the land sale acts of the 1800s, the WPA training programs, the GI Bill and various educational funding reforms that made it possible for kids to afford school through the university level. Most of the ‘upper/middle class’ republicans are completely ignorant of the fact that they are so because of government handouts for a previous generation. These greedy spoiled children of those who’ve already received their handout now wish to shut the door behind them. They believe that they’re there because of ‘personal responsibility’, and they’re too stupid to even know that they’re there because their parents were part of the ‘welfare generation’ of government programs proposed by liberals and that greatly benefitted society. Even though it produced a generation of spoiled, pampered and ignorant right wingers - it was, and still is the right course.
What is needed now is another generation of programs that encourage and assist the poor to be lifted from poverty. These could easily include items that even the most average person can clearly conceive.
1) Real Health care that doesn’t sap the poor of every spare dollar they have.
2) Real education that’s fully funded, instead of the urban and rural ghetto schools that don’t have proper facilities or teachers to teach the children.
3) Child rearing and family counceling (and not some stupid religious bunk - but the real thing) to assist them in dealing with social development and childhood development issues.
4) Money management techniques to help them avoid buying the latest madison avenue waste of money, and instead gets them on a path of fiscal responsibility.
5) Money matching grants to assist them with actual home ownership, and that encourages them to save for homes, education, or entrepreneurial activities! The microloan systems used in developing countries have repeatedly demonstrated how effective this can be.
6) Real small business loans - the current system is set up as a good old boy network, and is useless for the majority of entrepreneurs. The small business administration is even more useless than FEMA currently is…
These are just a few things that you can pretty much guarantee would make a profound difference for poverty in this country. And it isn’t giving out ‘free money’, it’s a path to independence!
September 18th, 2005 at 5:55 pmPresident Bush’s commentary on race wasn’t candid and thoughtful. It was peripheral and insulting. Someone tell the media.
comment by Nicgro
President Bush’s commentary on race wasn’t candid and thoughtful. It was peripheral and insulting. Someone tell the media.
A candid commentary on race as it applies to the American Negro would by necessity be insulting. After fifty years of unconstitutional laws and Liberal social manipulation and after a trillion dollars spent we still can’t get 12.3% of the population to identify as Americans. I think the less said about it the better.
September 18th, 2005 at 6:32 pm100% correct Ryan #52.
September 18th, 2005 at 6:38 pmLet them get a little older and the white one will look at the black one a little differently.
Comment by kjlovell
You heard it here fist. Only White people can be racist. Damn, it must be in the genes.
September 18th, 2005 at 6:39 pmThese are just a few things that you can pretty much guarantee would make a profound difference for poverty in this country. And it isn’t giving out ‘free money’, it’s a path to independence!
Comment by Ryan Neat
The only thing that can save the American Negro is to put you losers out of business.
September 18th, 2005 at 6:44 pm“The only thing that can save the American Negro is to put you losers out of business.”
Who said anything about american negros you stupid bigot? Lots of americans of all colors and origins live in poverty - and the only thing that will save them is to prevent fascists like you from turning them into soap!
Anyone who thinks it is a coincidence that poverty rates increase under EVERY republican administration, while they decrease under EVERY DEMOCRATIC administration isn’t playing with a full deck. And the first example of this is the ever stupid and delusional repressed homosexual and part time pedophile who wants to be a catholic priest - MrWrong…
September 18th, 2005 at 7:16 pmAnd MrWrong the reichwing propagandist is oh so wrong on oh so many levels. If the ‘negros’ - as he calls them in his houston racism - don’t identify as americans, why do they insist on being called ‘african AMERICANS’? Duh - yet another example of the utter lack of the most basic common sense. Now we all know why Texas is 50 out of 50 states in education - it’s because they churn out more retards like MrWrong than anyone would care to know about…
Now as for the plight, if every republican administration didn’t undo the progress made under the democratic predecessor when they reach office, we would be in a much better place with poverty as a whole. The destruction of american education by republicans is first and foremost a problem. The lack of proper minimum wage is another. The complete abandonment of entire urban and rural areas by governments is yet another. And finally the economic destruction that happens everytime a moron republican steps into office and causes a depression or a recession is the biggest. Every republican except one has presided over a recession - even bush who had 8 years reagan before him! They always claim it’s because democrats wreck the economy - and yet democrats can hold office for years, and the economy booms the entire time!
The reality is that poverty is largely caused by greedy and stupid (and often racist) republicans who have preconceptions that something are wrong with poor people - when in fact SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH RICH PEOPLE! Their greed puts into place economic policies that remove economic growth, undermines living wages, and destroys the opportunities for advancement.
The republicans keep screwing up social services to try to ‘prove’ they don’t work, and thereby do away with them. This is part of the published strategies of the NeoCon organization ‘Project for the new American century’ - which is a FASCIST product of Leo Strauss a Nazi from germany who taught at the university of chicago and produced an entire generation of american fascists like MrWrong - even ones like hime that are merely too much of a dope to realize they’re bigotted fools!
September 18th, 2005 at 7:25 pmIn the last 28 years of republican leadership compared to the last 28 years of democratic leadership it quickly becomes clear how bad republicans are at handling the economy.
In the 28 years of Republican administrations there were 258 months of expansion and 78 months of contraction, while in the 28 years of Democratic administrations there were 304 months of expansion and 32 months of contraction.
This means that not only did republicans show over 2 times the number of recession/depression months, but if we were to break it down further the average GDP growth rate for the non-contraction months for both parties shows that economies grow at almost twice the rate under democratic presidents than republican ones. They also show that the economy grows fastest under both a democratic president and a democratic congress - whereas they grow the slowest under a republican president and republican congress!
Clearly the real issue is that republicans are crap with the economy - yet the get in a big circle jerk and tell each other how good they are. They use voodoo economic techniques that pad their contributors and screw the economy - all the while whispering the lies in each others years that ‘they’re better’, when in fact they’re inept, just like MrWrong! He’s SO SURE that he’s right, yet every fact available shows he’s an ignorant selfish fool! No wonder you’re still single MrWrong - you’re an idiot, and who’d want to share their lives with a loser like you!
September 18th, 2005 at 7:31 pmThere’s a great link here that does analysis of how the african american middle class has been devastated by bushenomics.
http://www.cepr.net/ publications/ job_tenure_report.htm
The reality is we have a guy who bankrupted 3 companies in the process of bankrupting the country. He’s an idiot, surrounded by incompetent zealots who are so arrogant they can’t even recognize the destruction they bring!
September 18th, 2005 at 7:34 pm“comment by somebody’s fairy prince
I did and so did everyone else you self loathing step away from suicide enemy of free people everywhere. ”
Self loathing? Hehe, you call someone else self loathing? I LOVE who I am, but it’s unclear you have what psychologists call an ‘anxious masculinity’.
So why would a bigot like you assume that one was only talking about african americans when we talk about poverty? Why would also assume they’re all poor? The fact is there is a vibrant african american middle class - some of which held/hold offices in this administration. Clarence Thomas is a supreme court justice because of those liberal policies you knock. The affirmative action which got him into law school made his very existence in that job possible. The same is true for Rehnquist who went to college on the GI bill, and who otherwise would not have been able to attend.
The reality is that poverty and the social improvement of this country has always been best solved by liberals - and conditions always worsen under republicans. You don’t like those answers because you’re an idiot - but that is the undeniable truth. To deny it means you must deny all evidence to the contrary, which is VAST and incontrovertable despite the best effort of lying propagandists such as you!
September 18th, 2005 at 7:39 pm#52 Ryan,
September 18th, 2005 at 9:42 pmVery insightful. I totally agree. I have been seen it myself.
#58, Ryan. Ditto.
September 18th, 2005 at 9:44 pmRyan #52&58, Thank You, well written, I also agree..Blessings
September 18th, 2005 at 11:35 pmKevin Schmitt..I think…i agree. Bush looks down on
September 18th, 2005 at 11:41 pmanything other than his ‘base’ Remember in Fahrenheit
911, when he goes to the white tie and tails dinner,
(funny enough to see him in a tux),,,and they introduce
him….he says” Well, here we are, the haves…and the
have mores’…and they all laughed. He added, “the
people call you the elite…I call you my base!”
So true….and he keeps on giving!
I found an article recently that said the only President in history that did not take his presidential salary was FDR. He said that life had been very good to him, and he was aware that the American people could use that money to recover from the depression.
Is dumya doing the same?
no.
September 19th, 2005 at 1:32 amAnd the next time some right-wing-nut says something about chapquiddick (don’t spell real well while madly typing) say “well laura bush murdered her boyfriend in the same way 1963″ - his name was Michael Douglas and he was driving a corvair (no not that one).
September 19th, 2005 at 4:28 am[…] Alongside the chilling thought that Rove’s new portfolio almost certainly means that the administration has assurances that he will not be indicted in the Valerie Plame leak case, lies the longer-term reality that comes with implementation of methods that have been roundly rejected, some for decades. Environmental deregulation, only popular with polluters, and school vouchers, only popular with those who haven’t considered their effects, will have their presence felt almost immediately. Next will be the economic effects of still more tax cuts and federal giveaways to business. This is the least conservative part of the plan, yet also the least troubling to Republican critics of the reconstruction spending. The ability to locate a business in an area already slated to receive hundreds of billions of dollars in federal aid, and billions more in state, local, and private investment should really be all the incentive any proprietor needs. Tax cuts and direct subsidies that benefit businesses already experiencing a windfall from relaxed wage rules, environmental standards, and government contracts is not only wasteful and anti-market, but promotes further class inequality. And here the media was, telling their audience that the President was having an FDR moment and proposing these measures because he wanted to fight poverty and racial issues. […]
September 19th, 2005 at 6:20 pmNow as for the plight, if every republican administration didn’t undo the progress made under the democratic predecessor…
comment by Ryan First Negro Hindu Homo
I’m not sure there’s anyway we can undo the progress of the progressives….here’s an example of the progress you’ve make with the American Negro…
Today, September 14, the New Century Foundation releases The Color of Crime, our relentlessly factual study of race, crime, and the criminal justice system.
For anyone who ever wondered just how much more likely blacks or Hispanics are than whites to commit various crimes, the answers are here.
It takes hard work to pry the facts out of the reluctant grip of federal crime databases. But the results are eye-opening:
Blacks are just 13 percent of the population but they commit more than half the muggings and murders in the country. Hispanics commit violent crimes at about three times the white rate.
The proportion of blacks and Hispanics in an area is the single best indicator of how dangerous it is. The racial mix is a much better predictor of crime rates than poverty, unemployment, and dropout rates combined.
Although Jesse Jackson and Bill Cosby wring their hands over black-on-black mayhem, blacks actually commit more violent crime against whites than blacks. A black is about 39 times more likely to do violence to a white than the other way around, and no less than 130 times more likely to rob a white.
And yes, everyone’s suspicions about rape are correct: Every year there are about 15,000 black-on-white rapes but fewer than 900 white-on-black rapes. There are more than 3,000 gang rapes of whites by blacks—but white-on-black gang rapes are so rare they do not even show up in the statistics.
There is plenty more—but just as interesting will be how the Mainstream Media will treat these facts.
http://vdare.com/taylor/050913_crime.htm
September 19th, 2005 at 11:21 pmThe above is the real LIberal legacy left to the Black man in America. Make no mistake about it.
September 19th, 2005 at 11:22 pmMrWrong and his right wing propaganda now shows what a racist bigot he is. He talks about crime and african americans yet he forgets all of the relevant points.
1) This organization is a slime right wing smear organization, and they use voodoo statistics.
2) The conservative mainstream media like fox will probably pass on these lies - hopefully most reporters will ignore it for the false manipulation of numbers that it is.
3) This is a racist organization just like MrWrong is a stupid bigot - and they don’t actually do real metrics.
Crime is related to poverty and access to opportunities - not race. Bigots like this guy and his david duke KKKrazies always spout some crap like this.
I knew you were a freak MrWrong, I didn’t realize you were also a john birch total white supremicist moron. You’re even more insane than I realized. But of course, as you’ve previously stated, you replace your own ’superior’ judgement on what’s crazy to the learned doctors who spend years in school and do actual scientific research that’s peer reviewed. You have such a high opinion of yourself considering how little you appear to actually know…
September 20th, 2005 at 1:42 amMrWrong,
You should read a REAL book on poverty, clearly your level of ignorance is only informed by propaganda.
http://www.ucpress.edu/ books/ pages/ 10049/ 10049.ch01.html
September 20th, 2005 at 1:45 amAnd MrWrong, you do realize this organization is a Nazi organization - right? Of course you do - being a nice brownshirt treasonous republican…
These guys make the heritage foundation look like communists - wow I knew you were a creep - but you’re even more of an insane wanker than I had ever imagined! No wonder you don’t know anything about christianity or any other topic you stupidly blather on about. You’re a KKKreep!
September 20th, 2005 at 3:32 amAnd MrWrong, you do realize this organization is a Nazi organization - right?
comment by Ryan “take me to your leader” Neat
Who are you talking about? The FBI who gathered the data or the Justice Department who filed it?
September 20th, 2005 at 8:21 pm[…] Although veryone knows it full well, they can’t admit it, which is one of several things that make our political dialogue insane. In order for non-racist Republicans to be able to look themselves in the mirror, they need to concoct a fiction in which racism was a problem, but we licked it good 20-30 years ago, and a few centuries of American culture and history got wrapped up as neatly as a sitcom plot. Therefore, according to the rules of this fiction, even mentioning race as a factor in politics is like trying to connect modern politicians to the Teapot Dome. Observe our President referring to racism as a thing of the past. Observe James Taranto’s hand-waving argument that black Americans are out-of-touch political extremists. Which is not to say that all or even most Republicans are racists - it is just to say that, because of the realities of how they came to power, those realities which must not be discussed in polite company, we observe some fairly bizarre scenes. […]
September 21st, 2005 at 12:19 amWhich is not to say that all or even most Republicans are racists - it is just to say that, because of the realities of how they came to power, those realities which must not be discussed in polite company, we observe some fairly bizarre scenes.
comment by, Who knows, Who cares?
Republicans came to power because the American people recognize Left Wing Losers when they see them. Here’s a cold hard fact; as long as the Democratic Party allows itself to be operated and funded by fringe radical idiots you people can’t get elected.
We’re here to make sure everything you do and say is recorded to be re-run on prime time every election cycle. The fact is, we can’t lose.
September 21st, 2005 at 10:04 am“Republicans came to power because the American people recognize Left Wing Losers when they see them. ”
Republicans came to power because they rigged the election voting machines. It’s a proven fact - republicans lost the election, but because they’re thieves with big egos they cheated for a Coup D’Etat - as fascists always do when they can’t win fair…
And they might win every election as long as Diebold and Triad help them cheat. After all, they are so immoral they believe the means justify the end. This moral relativism is expected from Fascists though - but unlike 2004, we know what and how you stole the election. If you think the election activists are gonna sit by and let you steal the next ones, then your delusion is protecting from the truth… But then again your delusion seems to always protect you from the truth - that’s why it’s a delusion..
September 24th, 2005 at 4:22 amRyan, where do you go to find your proven facts? You liberal sissy long winded wimps just keep yaking, trying to impress each other. After you’ve heard the same thing over and over from your loser friends, it eventually becomes a matter of fact. You guys are the delusional ones.
October 20th, 2005 at 11:58 am