BREAKING: Bush’s Ratings Drop After Speech
By on Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:23 pm
BREAKING: Bush’s Ratings Drop After Speech
This just in from Rasmussen Reports:
Thirty-five percent (35%) of Americans now say that President Bush has done a good or excellent job responding to Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath. That’s down from 39% before his speech from New Orleans.
The latest Rasmussen Reports survey shows that 41% give the President poor marks for handling the crisis, that’s up from 37% before the speech.
A disappointing debut for Compassionate Conservatism v2.0.
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Screw you MSM and trying to make Bush out to be sincere. AT least the general public is now starting to wake up.
September 18th, 2005 at 12:24 pmSo, will the pundits who gushed over Bush’s speech re-evaluate their reviews and tell us if they think the speech was so compelling?
September 18th, 2005 at 12:37 pmI can’t see why any of these people think Bush has a heart. He and Cheney stayed on vacation (even though Cheney gave the “fix the pipeline order from vacation) until Thursday after the hurricane. How can anybody with a conscience stay on vacation when hundreds of thousands of people need their help.
Sh!t, I am just a regular guy and I wanted to go help them.
I think that the news people from the MSM have the same problem as Bush. The are so rich, they have no clue as to what is really going on in the world around them. These guys need a wake-up call. The only people you see really reporting on what happned during Katrina are people like Anderson Cooper who is asking “When is the time for placing blame? When is it time for pointing fingers?”
September 18th, 2005 at 12:47 pmWhere do i get these numbers? The numbers on Meet The Press were different? I for one also thought Bush turned things around with their Brand Rehab Procedures I think I need to retract this.
September 18th, 2005 at 12:47 pmYou get the numbers by clicking the “just in” link.
I can tell you that Bush didn’t change the minds of anybody I know. Everybody saw exactly what he was trying to do. Throw money at the problem. Yes, money will help to rebuild MS,LA and AL. But it will not fix the problem of poverty in America. Guess what Mr. Bush. There other poor places in the USA. Go to Detroit, Los Angeles, New York or any other big city.
September 18th, 2005 at 12:59 pmHe is going to build a new city just like Nero did, so it’s ok.
He plays guitar, he rides bike, he goes on vacation. Who doesn’t do those things.
Just because his approval ratings are low doesn’t mean he isn’t going to go to work a couple of hours a month.
He only made 700 grand last year, so he’s not that rich.
We’re all trapped. Rich, poor, in-between. There ain’t nobody getting out of here alive.
If I only knew whereabouts my private jet, then I could fly to my villa in the Cayman Islands. My swimming pool is filled with Roman gold coins. I inherited them from Atilla the Hun.
ratings schmatings, let him do his job. It don’t take much to be a president like George.
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New painting… TREASON
THE ( Bush Family & Friends ) TRIAL…
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on… Sept 24-26 2005
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( Series 99 ) Completed 2001 ( Size : 30 X 60 in. ) Medium: oil, color & paper
Bu$h Family Neo-Con, Millionaire, Corporate Class, GANG COLORS
OIL BLACK SUITS… with BLOOD RED TIES
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AMERICAN PLUTOCRATIC GOVERNMENT with Corrupt money dominated Elections.
They Give AID and COMFORT to the ENEMIES of DEMOCRACY,
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the JUXTAPOSED Crime of NOT FIXING the ELECTION PROCESS…
And with SECRECY and the EXCLUSION of the GOVERNED,
WE THE PEOPLE of UNITED STATES of AMERICA,
With their combined WEALTH.
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‘High-Treason’ painting juxtaposes historical and contemporary reality and visually records the usurpation of US democracy [vis a vi a corrupt election] and challenges the illegitimate handing over of power to the stooges and lackeys that control the modern day slave culture of credit and debt… Steven Bayless ( 2002 )
September 18th, 2005 at 1:07 pmThe new Monkey Trials:
Let the CHIMPEACHMENT BEGIN!
September 18th, 2005 at 1:10 pmI see a lot of frustration, but not a lot of influence from the regular Joe’s and Jane’s of this country. Why don’t we all take a leaf out of the book of pro-democracy (yeah — the way the U.S. USED TO BE!)countries and just arrange for the whole damn country to not go to work one day. Elections are rigged, the media are bought and paid for by the elite who are only interested in their own little acre of heaven and don’t give a shit about anyone else, and our government is filled with profiteers and opportunists who couldn’t care less if 3,000 or 2,000 people are killed if it means Halliburton or Bechtel can just ride in on their Hummers and rebuild. The only power left is the power of the people, and we should use it. It’s certainly time!
September 18th, 2005 at 1:14 pmIt was the blue shirt/blue cathedral thing. He looked like a talking balloon head at the front gate to WalleyWorld.
Good production design is a smart dictator’s friend. Authority is high-contrast, heavy side-lighting and NO pastels.
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September 18th, 2005 at 1:21 pm.
Please Pass This On…
Hey! The scrub is not the only one who is guilty of the mess we are in,let us not forget all of his cronies in the Senate and Congress, they are also guilty of these acts.Time to clean house.
September 18th, 2005 at 1:25 pmThe problem is most people that I meet, while they hate Bush, are not willing to stand up and do something about it. They just want to wait until 2008 and “vote him out.” And I’m like “Vote him out?! You freaking morons, he can’t run again.”
That is the typical bullshit that I hear from educated, well off people. They just don’t get it. Most people just don’t get it. They are happy sitting idly by while the country is raped.
People have the “Well shucks. I hope we have a better president next time.”
Part of the problem is that teh government has made us way to focused on our jobs. People work way too many hours, for not really good pay and are always worried about making ends meet. To have to focus on politics also is just too time consuming. this of course was done on purpose to keep the numbers of voters down.
September 18th, 2005 at 1:26 pmABC, NBC, CBS, + CNN are all run by RW ideologues. Each media outlet is part of a corporate conglomerate with ties to the military/industrial complex. If there is no war and no chaos, these companies make less money. If there is war and chaos, these companies make more money.
So we must continue to label each media outlet above as right wing, dishonest, anti-American, etc… By doing such, the average Jane and Joe will intuitively ignore the main stream media.
September 18th, 2005 at 1:28 pmHey Roger,
#1
Anybody that wants to get connect is, anybody that doesn’t either can’t afford to be connected or they don’t want to be connected.
#2
Most of the people of this planet are taught to speak english as a second language and the ones who don’t are in native tribes that aren’t going to standard school anyways.
#3
September 18th, 2005 at 1:30 pmSecret handshakes are cool.
FINALLY, the number of people you can fool all the time is beginning to get smaller. I had really almost given up on the American people this time.
September 18th, 2005 at 1:32 pmWhat? No revolution yet? Even Mother Nature’s slapping us in the face. (C’mon you morons! WAKE UP!)What more will it take? Duh.
September 18th, 2005 at 1:43 pm#13 You are so right. They make it where the middle class that still have jobs are only worried about getting by. Hungry people are always easier to control. They want it that way so no one has the opportunity to see what they are up to – zealot appointments, appointments that are political thank yous, corruption, treason, big money for carlyle, halliburton, bechtel and the list goes on.
What they didn’t factor in is the age of instant information. True news, sharing of ideas. Yes, the internet, e-news, blogs and the like.
It is chimpy’s Acheles (not sure of spelling on that one) heel.
I fully expect chimpy to say, ok I admit it we stole 2 elections and I really wasn’t elected, so I have decided to run for my first term in 2008. Well, we all know he would phrase if where he didn’t have to “admit” anything, but the message would still be the same. He even wanted to rewrite the constitution so that he could remain pResident until the “war on terror” was over. Believe me, there is absolutely nothing these corrupt evil people will not do.
September 18th, 2005 at 1:43 pmIf a a clandestine video came out that showed GWB giving a blowjob to Jeff Gannon while Cheney jerked off alongside while talking to Karl Rove about how to transfer military secrets to the Chinese and leaving Tony Blair hung out to dry over Iraq and how they could always make idiots think the tax cuts were for them you would STILL have 35% who would “approve” of GWB and would vote for him again.
September 18th, 2005 at 1:46 pmCongretional elections are coming up in Nov. 2006. All of the house, and about half of the senate must stand for re-election.
For certain, we only have the ballot box which is controlled by the pukes. That is the ad news.
The good news is that in the overall polling the dems lead by 12 points, 58 to 46. Those are good numbers.
September 18th, 2005 at 2:00 pmBush sucks and we know it. We laugh at his stupidity. He must be impeached!
For a good laugh.
http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/
September 18th, 2005 at 2:03 pmSpudgeboy has all the right comments!
September 18th, 2005 at 2:04 pmWhen I think I have something to add, I read further and you have said it already.
Right on, Spudgeboy!
I wonder how many people have read what I read in the Chgo. Tribune today — US seeks donations to aid the rebuilding of Iraq. Andrew Natsios is head of the new web site, announced 9/9/05. What is this — a tag day for Halliburton?
September 18th, 2005 at 2:13 pmHe bought his co-conspirators in Congress with his manipulation of the voting machines. They cannot vote against him. He OWNS them. They are not about to go along with impeachment. It’s going to be up to the citizens to switch the next Congressional election to paper ballots in each state. That will be our only hope. There is proof that the machines were rigged. Think about it,if he had been popularly elected, his numbers would not have been so low right after his so-called re-election.
September 18th, 2005 at 2:14 pmTime to chimpeach George Walker Bush, father to two alcoholics, son to Barbara “Marie Antoinetee” Bush, and uncle to drug-addict and alcoholic nephews and nieces.
Why is it so difficult for conservatives to believe in evolution when their president is a half-breed speciment of a chimp and an ass? Let the new Scopes Monkey Trials begin to impeach our vietnam-era AWOL loser.
September 18th, 2005 at 2:26 pmIt looks to me like all Bush’s talk about limitless spending and a big government reconstruction project has begun to alienate his base. And when a partisan ideolog like Bush loses his base he’s done for, cause he really has nothing else.
September 18th, 2005 at 2:34 pmCarolyn …..You are so right that our only hope is in getting paper ballots in every state in time for the 2006 elections….But how in the name of God are we going to perform this miracle?????????
September 18th, 2005 at 2:36 pmOne wonders just WHAT it is they are putting into the air or in the water that makes a substantial portion of the population still support Chimpster. After all, they fire CEOs for less incompetence than he has demonstrated. I mean, you’d think he’d luck out and get something right once in a while.
So you have to believe that the way things turn out is exactly how they wish them to turn out and that, folks, is truly scary.
September 18th, 2005 at 2:47 pmSince Sept 2 I have been trying to find out who has central control over the rebuilding effort. I am an Internet discounter of educational products. I want to lower my cost to 10% over what I charge and supply schools in LA, MS and AL from my warehouse in AL with products at deep discount (10% covers my operating costs).
So after 15 days of calling everywhere in DC I can tell you that unless you know someone, you can’t “help”. You can’t try to save the government money. You can’t be an honest person and participate in the reconstruction.
Cronies get, cronies know where to go to get. They know who to pay to get. It’s the Iraq reconstruction all over again. If you pay off the right perople you get to play and profit. If you want to lower costs and get stuff to the people ASAP you can’t even get in the door.
September 18th, 2005 at 2:54 pmMary,
September 18th, 2005 at 3:03 pmI’m thinking, I’m thinking. They got rid of some in California. It will take action by the people, but most people have been cowed by these crooks for a long time. There’s got to be a way. I know it is being studied, but that doesn’t mean action. We need a megaphone like Howard Dean or Al Gore. Move-on.org? It’s time we the people had a voice!
“So you have to believe that the way things turn out is exactly how they wish them to turn out and that, folks, is truly scary.”
September 18th, 2005 at 3:05 pmThere would seem to be no other explanation.
I’m tired of cursing MSM. They will NEVER change. Their business is to sell cars, homes in suburbia and other crap. It is NOT to bring you news / truth.
I would PAY for a network that brought a little truth over the airwaves / cable network. Surely there are enough people tired of being smothered with bullshit something like a TRUTH network could at least break even?
September 18th, 2005 at 3:09 pmRegarding the speech on Thursday night. The blue background and the blue shirt matched perfectly. Too bad his mother didn’t teach him how to button his shirt. You always start from the bottom up. Geez – he has to ask permission to pee and can’t even dress himself!
September 18th, 2005 at 3:14 pmThe first step for the USA to begin rebuilding international respect is to get your collective heads out of your asses and impeach W. I know I’m preaching to the choir here. Could it possible that this is finally happening?
September 18th, 2005 at 3:17 pmABSOLUTELY UNSURPRISING that his numbers dropped. How much confidence can anyone place in a nitwit who is unable to button his darn shirt????
September 18th, 2005 at 3:25 pmAs many shortcomings as media reportage has had in recent years, I am so grateful to the internet because it has taught me to research from first principles and to tease out the truth and falsify the bad information. What a powerful tool! God bless Al Gore.
As to Bush and his poll numbers. Let’s celebrate a little, and let’s remember that the one power on earth greater than the Bush Administration is American Civil Society.
September 18th, 2005 at 3:26 pmEveryone here seems to believe everything they read on the Internet. Why is everyone so quick to place blame, but not quick to come up with solutions. I don’t believe any of the lies I read here. They must have been put here by the far left wing!
God Bleee America!!!!
September 18th, 2005 at 3:29 pmLet’s see. He made this speech and his popularity dropped 4 points to 35%. About 2 more speeches and it’s goodbye 30’s and hello 20’s. Sweet!
September 18th, 2005 at 3:31 pmAs opposed to what, Mahlon, believing everything you read in the newspapers and see and hear on radio and television. Now there’s a recipe for stupidity.
September 18th, 2005 at 3:35 pmGuess their back! ….Blessings
September 18th, 2005 at 3:50 pmForget impeachment. Republicans only will impeach on a sex scandal and Rove swallows!
September 18th, 2005 at 3:59 pmCan you spell disaster? g-e-o-r-g-e b-u-s-h! Yep, folks, george bush is a big disaster that has been looking around for a place to happen for the last five years! I think he found that place about three weeks ago in New Orleans!!
September 18th, 2005 at 4:09 pmA camera should remain fixed on him 24 x 7 like a White House reality show until even the most cool-aid soaked brain snaps awake.
September 18th, 2005 at 4:19 pmMahlon Grube
I don’t think there is one person here the reads everything they believe. Of course, I am not talking about the NeoCons. Those zombies only believe what they are told by their talking point masters.
Nope, the free thinkers here seek out the truth and shout it to the masses.
Do you want to be a zombie or a free thinker.
Free thinkers only watch Fox when they need a good laugh.
September 18th, 2005 at 4:22 pmcarolyn…..our voices are supposed to be spoken by those representatives that we voted for…I mean the minority….and they seem to have all come down with a bad case of laryngitis……I keep saying what you are suggesting that the people have to take action…….Right now the RWR’S want to give more power to there ill gotten man………..Can’t you see a peaceful march by millions of us who love our country being turned into a collosal massacre……We the Dems are doomed unless people like Rep Conyers can get a election reform bill passed before 2006….. 2006……..
September 18th, 2005 at 4:26 pmSteve, here is the answer, Independent Television News Network. Google it.
September 18th, 2005 at 4:31 pmSorry, here is the correct title: Independent World TV News Network
September 18th, 2005 at 4:34 pmMahlon Grube I have a suggestion You should stop believeing the lies that you hear and see on the MSM……Mahlon…… pleaseeeeeeeeee don’t tell me that you don’t believe that we are in Iraq because of the most abominable LIE ever told to the American people…….Mahlon you need to be our gueat on the internet MORE OFTEN and maybe just maybe you will understand the real meaning of telling the truth………..
September 18th, 2005 at 4:34 pmWho’s the yokel who wrote that bush made 700-thou last year? How naive is that? This bunch of thugs and thieves has so many off-shore bank accounts, they are probably floating half of the islands out there. Do you think they sent our troops to Iraq and Afghanistan just to search for Osama, or to establish democracy? Duh. This is all about greed and power, and now that Katrina has chipped in, they’ll make a whole bunch more. They thrive on disasters by using our money to throw around to their cronies, after they take their cuts, of course. This is a new breed of traitors, unknown to all of humankind; and with the help of the mainstream media and fellow lockstop politicians, these guys and gals don’t even care who knows it. They are immunity and impunity personified. They are getting away with murder, quite literally, and they’re making a mint. To believe this evil “leader” of our nation made only 700-thou last year, is an insult to the guy. Be careful, he may send someone after you…one of his mercenaries, perhaps.
September 18th, 2005 at 4:45 pmVOTE REPUBLICAN!
Still, I have to wonder how the 35% find their way home from church.
September 18th, 2005 at 4:58 pmAlmost the entire “news” media should be ashamed for letting G.W. Bush and his entire Cabinet get away with countless lies.
When are the newspapers, radio and TV going to get some guts and sincerity??
This is the worst Presidentcy in the history!!
He lies and everyone dies!!
September 18th, 2005 at 5:05 pmWhy cann’t we get a petition in each state demanding for the election we have a paper receipt on how we voted. Maybe this will put a scare in the republican and wake up the democrats.
We the people need to take our country back.
September 18th, 2005 at 5:07 pmTypical staged event. Guess the lights were turned on there just for his speech, then went out again….amazing gall.
Mary Poppin (thought you lived in London :)
so right about the need for a verifiable paper ballot. Here in Oregon we vote by mail. It is a good system with checks & balances in place.
Mary59
September 18th, 2005 at 5:25 pmIf this keeps up bush will have to call for another bin laden tape to be released to scare the bejeezus out of americans… Fear, ignorance, cheating and stupidity are the only reliable tools of the right wing – with the mainstream media as the conduit for all of these tools…
September 18th, 2005 at 5:41 pmI found it intriquing to see the difference in Shrub’s eye-Blink patterns. The first time he mentioned ‘taking responisiblity to the extent we have to ” he was blinking like a cornered and trapped rat. The pattern indicated to me a massive disconnect with what he was saying and what he was thinking and feeling.
September 18th, 2005 at 5:59 pmI wonder what kind of drugs they have him on….he looked almost believable (eye pattern) whne he made his save my ass speech.
The Trifecta of Incompetence:
1. 9/11: 3,000 die
2. Iraqi Freedumb: another 2,000 Americans die
3. FEMA FUBAR: another 1,000 Americans die
IMPEACH BUSH for killing 6,000 Americans through malfeasance and criminal negligence.
September 18th, 2005 at 6:03 pmMary 59 How does that work mailing your ballot in. I live in the midwest. We have ballots which we use a pencil to mark them and then the machine records our vote. I would like to see a receipt on how I voted. I don’t trust this government anymore even my small villege where I live because it is a Republican county.
September 18th, 2005 at 6:18 pmW was so obviously reading from a script – everything about his presentation changes when he does this. Whenever he tries to expound off the cuff he mangles all principles of good speech – and he proves he has no original and firmly held thought.
He is a shocker!!!
September 18th, 2005 at 6:33 pmActually, he made 784 thousand dollars in 2004.
Plus 400 billion barrels of oil at 63 dollars per barrel.
So, it was a tad more. “Thanks for the oil.”- George Bush and friends
September 18th, 2005 at 6:57 pmI would wonder about the mail-in vote as well when Oregon produced (?) Kitzhofer(Governor) and Smith (Senator).
September 18th, 2005 at 7:00 pm#59
Did you count and include the cost of using Air Force One as a U-haul truck to move the twinky-twins home from college?
September 18th, 2005 at 7:02 pmI did not listen to the speech, for my tolerance of bush is about 3 seconds, so that was a non starter. The other reason was that we would get will be all the propaganda of compasion and it is not my fault etc. in different version and in the end it will be just so much hot air.
I gather that the stage craft was excellent but perhaps they overplayed.
Whether bush can lead has to be PROVEN BY CONCRETE RESULTS.
The chance of that happening can be summed up with slim to none. Too many fat cats are already lining up to swill at the trough and there is not the will or skill to control it. This is true not only at the Hill, but also at the white house.
It will end up just like the reconstruction in Iraq. Billions of dollars spend and nothing to show for it.
This theft and just allout embezzelment of funds, if it happend at the UN, would have been used to condemm and started a witch hunt of gigantic proportion. But as this has been done by Halburton and the usual gang of GOP thieves, no one on the Hill or in the administration will be able to see it or even investigate it.
I think the motto of the GOP is SEE NO EVIL HEAR NO EVIL AND NATURALLY SPEAK NO EVIL.
So the country is run by a morally bankrupt pres and political party.
I wonder when we will have a frontside view of the funeral of this once and no more great country?
September 18th, 2005 at 7:18 pmWhatever the approval percentage, the numbers still indicate that there are way too many people who not only gleefully vote against their economic interests, but also wave the flag and vote against this country’s security — all because they hate anyone who is a moderate or left of center. How f’d up is that?
September 18th, 2005 at 7:18 pmThey will vote for Bush or any Republican no matter what because they have been conditioned to believe that Republicans are the only thing that can save them from Hillary Rodham Clinton. Who is, you should know, the most evil single object on the planet because she wants everyone to have affordable health care.
September 18th, 2005 at 7:44 pmDavid,
They watch the MSM right wing press and don’t know any better. The reichwing propaganda machine also creates images of fear to help disengage their higher brain function. When you see the other side as not human (a terrorist), then it causes all sorts of fight or flight responses that are more animal and less human. This is why if you’ve ever argued with a troll, and presented what is clearly factual and even concrete proof of a point that they simply ignore – it’s because they truly have filtered this information before their rational brain can process it.
Brain scientists and linguists call this ‘framing’ an issue. Once the issue is framed in their mind, anything that doesn’t fit that frame is automatically discarded without reasoned consideration. They can’t help it if they’re stupid – their brain is truly non-functional at that time.
I know for instance that the trolls who fight us on here are too engaged in this brain state to hear anything I say – so I don’t bother with the idea that I’ll ever have any influence on them. They’re clearly too stupid at that moment because of the frame to even be remotely reasonable – instead I bash them so that people who might be on the fence can see that in fact there are real facts that show their insanity is wrong. I personally feel it is a worthwhile exercise for that reason – but not for the purposes of changing the brainwashed.
They call it brainwashed for a reason – their brain is washed free of reason and rationality…
September 18th, 2005 at 7:50 pmAlan,
It’s worse than that – she wants every person to have health care even if they can’t afford it – which means that they might have to contribute a nickel! They’ve got their money – and they don’t want another nickel taken from their greedy little paws!
September 18th, 2005 at 7:51 pmWell, Bushco’s tried everything to win back the support of the American people and all has failed.
I guess were due for;
1.) a new terrorist attack on US soil, or
2.) a new war against an imagined enemy
I wonder which it will be???
September 18th, 2005 at 7:59 pmRyan, point well taken. A brief story. Here in NC an ex-police chief was elected to US Congress in the 90s and represented a constituency in the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area. He served one term and was defeated. The local paper did a feature on him recently for something like his 70th birthday. The story was in part about him being a Foxaholic and how he spends hours each day watching the stuff. The picture that accompanied the story showed him slouched in recliner watching Fox. And this is the garbage that represents us in Washington. And republicans get out of bed each morning with tunnel vision to do whatever it takes to elect more of it.
September 18th, 2005 at 8:22 pmTime for another terror alert. I believe the last one was just before the election last year. I see now where terror is the last thing the American people worry about. (and yet we are move vulnerable, I believe) I wonder what they will do next to try to boost his polling numbers.
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September 18th, 2005 at 8:31 pmThis good news makes me wonder, after everything we now know about the Bush/Cheney traitors, thugs n’ thieves, how can 35% of the U.S. population still be so incredibly stooopid?
September 18th, 2005 at 8:33 pmKevin #71 in answer to you question, think it is because all the red state people are in church listening to their own Pat Robertsons and fox net works at sunday dinner. They just have not gotten all the facts yet. Keep on telling the truth and demanding the media report it, they’ll come around…
September 18th, 2005 at 8:51 pmBlessings
We just returned from a backyard party and after a while politics came up (I didn’t do it!) One said, Cindy Sheehan was a bad mother, divorced and sponsored by (implied=evil) Michael Moore. Another said “those people” from New Orleans should go far away from here. Another said New Orleans is a dirty pit and should be bulldozed a la Hastert, and the Governor and Mayor are the problem. Another said there were 20,000 buses left in the flood. One said she gets her information from Emails. One watches the 700 club.
September 18th, 2005 at 9:36 pmOf course, I spoke up, as much as I could without destroying someone’s birthday party, but my point is that this is what we are up against. Ignorance to the nth degree.
#67 Dartanyon In answer to your question? Meet our new enemy……..Iran. Rice was speaking to the UN, yesterday(?), and was quoted as saying, once the UN has exhausted the peaceful ways of getting Iran to stop building nuclear weapons, then I guess we’re going to have to go in and ‘kick their butts’. I heard the new President of Iran, isn’t impressed with us, basically, I guess, he’s saying “bring it on”.
To the person who was talking about the MSM, it won’t change, as their are owned and operated by the people who Bush plays golf with, who contribute heavily to his campaigns. CNN’s parent company is AOL, a big contributor to RePugs. Never bite the hand that feeds you!
September 18th, 2005 at 9:48 pmBush should be forced to resign. At least in demanding that, we acknowlege the fact that he won’t be impeached by his fellow corrupt republicans, But we feel he has to resign for the good of the country. Three strikes and your out. Enough is enough. We can’t take it anymore. At least it is a demand that could happen. We must demand that other republicans get him and his corrupt fools resign or their party will be held accountable for this mess.
September 18th, 2005 at 9:56 pm35% still support him. That alone is astonishing.
September 18th, 2005 at 10:03 pmBobby 73,
September 18th, 2005 at 10:40 pmObviously you are going to the wrong parties…
The mighty winds of hurricane Katrina roared through this nation, and revealed what many already knew – that the emperor who misled the nation with smoke and mirrors, had no clothes. The country is beginning to wake up and realize that they have an incompetent, delusional, and out of touch leader, whose priority is to only take care of the wealthy. God help the USA.
September 18th, 2005 at 11:19 pmI noticed a comment on what dumbya needs to improve his poll #s. The options were
1. Another terror attack on U.S. soil
2. War with an imagined enemy
I believe it will be option #2. They have been setting the stage for this one for a few weeks. However Mother Nature slowed them down. Being ever resourseful, they found a way to steal billions of dollars even in that unfortunate event.
CHIMPEACH!
September 19th, 2005 at 1:27 am#79 Do you think he’ll try something he’s already done? You don’t think they’ll try to come up with something else? Bush might want to try one of the options, but his handlers are a lot smarter than he is.
September 19th, 2005 at 1:57 amI wonder if they won’t try something the American people wouldn’t expect. They must realize that too many of the people in this country have seen thru them.
You’ve all taken the time to write such great comments on how totally inept Bush is and how his adminstration has ruined this country but have you taken your protests to the next step? I have by writing my elected officials to remove Bush from office now. As Americans we can no longer stand idlly by and simply watch as this administration drags this country further into depths from which we may never recover.
September 19th, 2005 at 3:27 amSo if you haven’t done so yet do it right now, today, write your congressmen and tell them to Impeach Bush NOW! As one we can make a difference!!!!!!!
#80, remember this is the chimp that says stay the course, be vigilant. one-track-mind. His handlers also feel this way. You know they turned a blind eye to North Korea, while saying Iran is a threat.
As for #81….. Hey I do my part. I suspect Howard Dean does not e-mail you, he does me. So do many of the congressmen and senators in this country. I have taken the fight to them. I stand tall.
Don’t assume people do nothing, that is dumbya’s mistake. I am here, like Howard Dean. We preach the truth, we preach it loudly. We preach it often. Trolls and skels beware.
September 19th, 2005 at 4:16 amand #81, not only do I contact people in power, I write every news organization and newspaper available. I tell them to report the truth, not right-wing talking points. I hold their feet to the fire. I am not your average American that has opinions and does not act on them. Right or wrong, I hold my own.
September 19th, 2005 at 4:19 amSorry to post in parts, but I urge everyone here to do the same:
E-mail your and other Senators, Congressmen and even the criminal-in-chief!
Make your voice heard.
Visit your Senators offices, Congressmens offices, newspapers, local tv stations. E-mail is great, but it won’t do the trick! You have to be there in person, be polite, but be resolute! Stand tall, walk proudly and don’t let them change the subject! Be locked and loaded with facts and be ready to shoot them down.
We are the people, we make the difference! We will win!
September 19th, 2005 at 4:23 amOkay, it is time to get crass and start assembling the sound bytes and images we all need to show to voters in Nov 2006 and by Nov 2008.
The person who talked about trying to locate who is in charge of disaster relief so he could discount his computers for Gulf State schools: “Pay-to-Play” is a nice way to refer to “cronyism” (which is awkward and old fashioned and resonates only with those who might recall Tammany Hall (sp?).
I want to hear speaker after speaker use that expression and tie it to Bush’s corporate welfare policies. Pay with your lobbying money, and play when the pork-barrel money rains down.
This is but one example. I have seen several in the words and thoughts of bloggers over the past two weeks. A Bartlett’s Quotations of anti-Bush remarks should be assembled, and cover the range from insulting to snide to eloquent to merely useful and truthful expressions.
There are better ways to express what our political class has been unable and unwilling to articulate.
I am going to start at clip-file on my desktop. Windows Notepad.
September 19th, 2005 at 7:41 amI think that those who want to get rid of the Bush adminstration or at least stop it dead in it’s tracks are closer than they realize. The MSM is hyping a Red Herring in the “1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act and the day everyone will be shocked will be when the Fitzgerald Grand Jury returns indictments for Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, Lying to Investigators (they lie to everyone–so this is a “no brainer”), Destruction of Evidence, Intimidation of Witnesses and my favorite 2 Charges, Violations of Title 18, Sections 793 and 794. Take a look at the terms of Rove’s violated Non-Disclosure Agreement:
I have been advised that any unauthorized disclosure of classified information by me may constitute a violation, or violations, of United States criminal laws, including the provisions of Sections 641, 793, 794, 798, 952 and 1924, Title 18, United States Code, the provisions of Section 783(b), Title 50, United States Code, and the provisions of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982.”
http://www.fas.org/sgp/isoo/sf312.html
You will note that the 1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act is mentioned LAST! It has a higher standard for conviction and lesser penalties than the laws, which I believe Rove, Libby and possibly Cheney (or even Smirky himself) will be indicted for by Fitzgerald’s Grand Jury. In another case involving Title 18, Section 794 the court held that giving this information to the press was the same thing as giving it directly to spies! It’s laughable to imagine the perpeTRAITORS will argue that “the enemy†wouldn’t have access to the information reported by Novak to the world. To such a defensive argument the court in Morison stated:
“Finally, the danger to the United States is just as great when this information is released to the press as when it is released to an agent of a foreign government. The fear in releasing this type of information is that it gives other nations information concerning the intelligence gathering capabilities of the United States. That fear is realized whether the information is released to the world at large or whether it is released only to specific spies.”
http://www.mtsu.edu/%7Elburriss/morison.html
To prove the necessary “intent” under 794, Fitzgerald only has to present sufficient evidence that Rove and others knew the enemy would have access to the main stream media at the time they communicated information relating to the public defense to Novak and/or other reporters
Remember, a violation of Title 18, Section 794(b) during War Time merits DEATH (carefully read the first and last sentences):
“Whoever, in time of war, with intent that the same shall be communicated to the enemy, collects, records, publishes, or communicates, or attempts to elicit any information with respect to the movement, numbers, description, condition, or disposition of any of the Armed Forces, ships, aircraft, or war materials of the United States, or with respect to the plans or conduct, or supposed plans or conduct of any naval or military operations, or with respect to any works or measures undertaken for or connected with, or intended for the fortification or defense of any place, or any other information relating to the public defense, which might be useful to the enemy, shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life.”
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000794—-000-.html
Based on what is already known, Karl (Lewis Libby and others) are liable for Title 18, Section 794 and are also vulnerable under Title 18, Section 793:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000793—-000-.html
Remember, just failing to report an unintended disclosure is a violation under Title 18, Section 793.
Unlike the 1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act, neither of these statutes has a high standard for conviction. The “intent” requirement is virtually nil and there is no requirement that Plame be “covertâ€. In fact, the only threshold is that it “harm the public defense†or “be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nationâ€.
Pass it on. If Bush and his cronies are busy playing defense, they won’t have time to construct elaborate lies and we can limit the damage until they are thrown out.
Finally, remember that Bush does NOT have the power to Pardon IMPEACHABLE crimes. Take a look at the Constitution Article 2, Section 3, Clause 1, “The President…shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”
September 19th, 2005 at 7:48 am#85 Ron Thanks for all the great information. If Bush and Cheney were impeached would Dennis Hastert be next in line for President? I do not like this guy.
September 19th, 2005 at 7:59 amWe need to be careful.
Mary (Post #88):
First off, you are most welcome. I’ve promised the person who provided me this inforamation (and there is tons more if you Google “TreasonGate”), that I’d do my best in consolidating things down and posting where ever I saw it relevant–please feel free to do the same.
As to your question, under present circumstance, it would mean Hastert would take over–but hey ANYTHING is better than what we have. Let’s suppose the Indictments come down, but that the litigation gets extended into the next election. Then, add this to all the other things that have gone south thanks to the Rethuglicans way of governance and you have a perfect storm. Regardless of Indictments, I don’t see the Republicans as calling “Hearings” and think they would stonewall. But if this mess precipated a change in control of the House, then the “Hearings” would begin in Jan 07 and afterward, the new Speaker would take over if both the Vice President and Bush were to be Impeached. I say “Vice President” instead of Cheney for a reason.
September 19th, 2005 at 8:14 am#80, Nancy,
September 19th, 2005 at 9:39 amEven if the Bushies recognize that much of the public is seeing through their lies now, they still have all the power, and they already have a “so, what — wanna make something out of it?” attitude. I am not so sure that they wouldn’t begin another war or raise the terror level with a “tape just released” in order to send the public hiding under the bed.
#85 Ron,
September 19th, 2005 at 9:42 amI hope you’re right – I will pop the champagne if the indictments are handed down – but Fitzgerald is also deeply involved in the trial of former Ill. Gov. Ryan which starts this week, and I sure hope he has sufficient staff to keep everything on target.
Ron, Great information.
September 19th, 2005 at 9:49 amIf indictments do come down, do you agree that they would be so damaged, they would not be able to spin out of it? Whether Hastert becomes de facto prez. or there is a different sequence of events, I think they would be adrift at sea.
Ron: It goes without saying that if this investigation nabs but one of the top three (Bush, Cheney, Rove) it will be a great, wonderous day for the Constitution and the people of the United States of America.
Their abuse has been omnipresent and disgusting at the same time. I suppose I am still a tad skeptical(Fitzgerald is a GOP appointee, right?) being that the Roveians have wormed there way out of so much before(WMD, Al Qua Qua, Bin Laden-MIA, etc..) and the folks never seem to care anyway!
Great job on the research and listing the different ways this could (I HOPE) turn out. Could Hastert just pull a Gerald Ford and let them all off the hook?
September 19th, 2005 at 10:33 amAgain I say great job. I knew I was a dem for a reason, we have people like you combing under rocks for for any sort of clue out there. How do you think the indicments will be leaked, or will I just go home and see it on the nightly news?
Wow! Great stuff Ron. Hope it work’s. Been realy upset, nothing seemed to be happening with the impeach Bush lately…Blessings
September 19th, 2005 at 12:31 pmJust wait until 9/24, if the MSM gets off it’s butt and reports the gathering storm around the WH it will push some of the people off the fence.
I hope Hurricane Cindy shakes the WH to it’s very foundation & blows the trash right out of there.
About that time is when Fitzgerald is supposed to hand out the indictments.
It is certianly looking like a beautiful fall! (season or fall? you decide)
September 19th, 2005 at 1:00 pmI wish his ratings fell to single digits. This has been the biggest idiot to ever hold the office in 230 years. Hopefully, Carter/Baker can master some election reforms soon so these fascists don’t steal the 2008 election.
September 19th, 2005 at 1:35 pmNow that I read Ron’s posts, I am more sure than ever that Roberts must not be confirmed. I think he is a ringer and will sway the court, if indeed these indictments come down. You know that they will be appealed(sp) somehow to the Supreme Court. That is where Bush got his power in the first place.
I was just on the Democrats.com blog where supposedly diehard democrats were bashing Dean about his Op-Ed opposing Roberts. They don’t want a united Democratic front here. The idea is to divide the party. I just hope the spineless ones will see the reality soon.
September 19th, 2005 at 2:08 pm#
(Carolyn …..You are so right that our only hope is in getting paper ballots in every state in time for the 2006 elections….But how in the name of God are we going to perform this miracle?????????
Comment by mary — September 18, 2005 @ 2:36 pm)
We need to have a Boston Tea Party in every town in the US. Make effigies of the Diaboldt “voting” machines; arm ourselves with info about how these crooked machines steal our votes; carry petitions to deliver to our local officials demanding fairly counted elections; and drown these crooked machines.
At a minimum, it will put rethugs on the defensive and increase the number of people questioning the validity of these machines.
At a maximum, it may make our elections on a local level fairly counted and put some spine in our Dems.
September 19th, 2005 at 4:55 pmCan someone please tell me how an obviously, toe-scuffing, insincere “I really don’t mean it but my Mom made me come over to apologize for putting that baseball through your French doors” apology actually raise his approval ratings by 4 points???
He turned his pointy head to the left and didn’t have the nerve to look in the camera when he murmered, “I take responsibility.”
Are we really so incredibly stupid as a nation to be taken in by an obvious sham of an apology? What were 45,000,000 Americans doing during the last election, channeling Terri fucking Schiavo?!
September 19th, 2005 at 4:57 pmI’m going to go take a bush and wipe my channey with some condi!
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President Bush has announced that he will henceforth only use sign language in all his dealings with the media and the public in general. The decision to not subject Americans to the President’s voice any more was taken after it was found that Presid…
September 20th, 2005 at 11:10 amMOTHERS FOR ANSWERS
What’s the point of opening your mouth, if your relentless next move is to put your foot in it?
All these swell neo-cons that decided that this was the best that America could offer Halliburton now have
to own up to the idea that this entire administration is clueless.
Karl Rove is the Master Plate-Spinner of PR. Exactly how much good will that do anyone in New Orleans?
Being dissed-resistant does not put a roof over your head.
The way everyone has handled these past few weeks gives a whole new resonance to the fact that A Confederacy of Dunces was set in New Orleans.
Are they all planning to have an entire city commute away from every hurricane every hurricane season?
Who is going to be held accountable and jailable for diverting money away form the levees and into Iraq?
How much more folly before we dump the Bush League and give Hastert a chance at cleaning things up? Rich boys, as Fitzgerald in Gatsby noted, think that the reason that other people exist is to clean up their messes. Or not. This is Bush’s 19th Feckless Breakdown. Why should he get to have a 20th?
Cheney can conveniently clutch his chest and go count Halliburton’s money as an alternative to realizing he is going to very soon have to be answering a lot of very interesting questions.
The rest of the cabinet can fly to Hollywood and film the re-make of Dr. Strangelove, Or, how I Learned to Stop Worrying and Lost New Orleans.
September 20th, 2005 at 2:25 pmgandolina@hotmail.com
BUSH and his cohorts have done TREASON, more than once, during his stolen 8 years as President. HOW long does it take to get rid of the asshole? Come on people, wake up to what he is doing and get rid of him!!! WE are the people of this country, SOMEONE FIRE HIM ALREADY, before he kills us all off. PLEASE!!!
September 20th, 2005 at 8:50 pmTianca
My senators and representative have heard so many times from me, I think my post office believes I’m a covert spy or something, plus I’m sure my name is spread all over the CIA, FBI lists as an undesirable, since I state my opinions and I have no trouble being vocal about them.
September 20th, 2005 at 11:40 pmwow – you guys are just…nuts. Terminal-stage Bush-Derangement Syndrome. I’d read about it, but to actually see it in operation is amazing.
September 21st, 2005 at 11:50 am“you guys are just…nuts. Terminal-stage Bush-Derangement Syndrome. I’d read about it, but to actually see it in operation is amazing.”
I could care less about bush, other than he’s a witless twit and he should be impeached, the illegal war, his ineptitude on 9/11, his ineptitude with FEMA… The reality is the Fascist machine that brought him into power by stealing the election is the real issue.
You did a great job of summarily discounting us as nuts, yet you didn’t offer a single response that disproves anything said here. So your comment while amusing, seems more a case of ‘Terminal-Stage-LiberalHater-Derangement’, and I see that daily from people I’m sure who are just as checked out as you are…
September 24th, 2005 at 4:25 amamericans are dumb for taking so long to come down on bush. everything he does spells years of doom for the USA. In 3 more years we will be so in debt and hated around the world we will never recover. It is a shame the man is allowed to continue dragging us down this way. GET RID OF HIM!! HIS RATING SHOULD BE 1%
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