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		<title>By: shredder</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-951360</link>
		<dc:creator>shredder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 04:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it expensive or like an ordinary machines which are able to get with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it expensive or like an ordinary machines which are able to get with?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=951360', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vito Caputo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-151603</link>
		<dc:creator>Vito Caputo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As of 9/28/05: The page in the google cache accessed via the link supplied in this blog shows the page as being captured on 9/27.

Unfortunately, the Internet Wayback Machine does not have any 2005 versions of the page.

Perhaps someone had the foresight to have saved the page on their own hard drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of 9/28/05: The page in the google cache accessed via the link supplied in this blog shows the page as being captured on 9/27.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the Internet Wayback Machine does not have any 2005 versions of the page.</p>
<p>Perhaps someone had the foresight to have saved the page on their own hard drive.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=151603', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-143843</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#54
If you flip burgers, at least you get free food! Yummy!</description>
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If you flip burgers, at least you get free food! Yummy!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=143843', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wtmoore</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-143669</link>
		<dc:creator>wtmoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do i smell the foul odor of another KOBE?  I-right-I employs the same M.O. w/ strikingly similiar rhetoric.  any attempt to debate winds up mired in homo-erotic flaming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do i smell the foul odor of another KOBE?  I-right-I employs the same M.O. w/ strikingly similiar rhetoric.  any attempt to debate winds up mired in homo-erotic flaming.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=143669', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: progressive and proud</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-143548</link>
		<dc:creator>progressive and proud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, the commie comment is so 80s.  Get with the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the commie comment is so 80s.  Get with the program.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=143548', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: progressive and proud</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-143547</link>
		<dc:creator>progressive and proud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you doing here anyway?  Why would anyone go to a site where they hate everyone on it?  Do you need the attention so badly?  

Get up earlier?  That is so stupid.  What were you thinking when you wrote that?  Do you know how juvenile that statement is?  Someone can get up at 5am and not have coffee until 10am.  Is that something that you didn&#039;t think of?  Maybe someone can get up at 10am and work until 2am.  Did you not think of that either?  Are you that dumb?  Or, do you just not care that you sound dumb?

Again what do you want here, party crasher?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you doing here anyway?  Why would anyone go to a site where they hate everyone on it?  Do you need the attention so badly?  </p>
<p>Get up earlier?  That is so stupid.  What were you thinking when you wrote that?  Do you know how juvenile that statement is?  Someone can get up at 5am and not have coffee until 10am.  Is that something that you didn&#8217;t think of?  Maybe someone can get up at 10am and work until 2am.  Did you not think of that either?  Are you that dumb?  Or, do you just not care that you sound dumb?</p>
<p>Again what do you want here, party crasher?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=143547', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: verite</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-142720</link>
		<dc:creator>verite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 00:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Go ogle worshippers,

 What about www.google-watch.org and &quot;the connection&quot;?

Just asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Go ogle worshippers,</p>
<p> What about <a href="http://www.google-watch.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.google-watch.org</a> and &#8220;the connection&#8221;?</p>
<p>Just asking.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=142720', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-142664</link>
		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is annoying to see your venom before my third cup of coffee.

comment by commieratbastard and proud of it

Get up earlier loser or STFU. The princess does care, he&#039;s lying real hard to get me banned. I told her to leave me alone and stop stalking me on this board but of course that&#039;s not possible. He/She must be homebound, advanced AIDS is my guess but whatever the reason he/she apparently has the time and obviously enjoys me putting my boot up his/her ass. I think you should  mind your own business and get back to flipping burgers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is annoying to see your venom before my third cup of coffee.</p>
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<p>Get up earlier loser or STFU. The princess does care, he&#8217;s lying real hard to get me banned. I told her to leave me alone and stop stalking me on this board but of course that&#8217;s not possible. He/She must be homebound, advanced AIDS is my guess but whatever the reason he/she apparently has the time and obviously enjoys me putting my boot up his/her ass. I think you should  mind your own business and get back to flipping burgers.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=142664', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mentalenema</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-142592</link>
		<dc:creator>mentalenema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like &quot;Right-Between-The-Eyes&quot; got it &quot;&#039;right&#039; between the &#039;I&#039;s&quot;, LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like &#8220;Right-Between-The-Eyes&#8221; got it &#8220;&#8216;right&#8217; between the &#8216;I&#8217;s&#8221;, LOL.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=142592', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Terrytheturtle</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-142149</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrytheturtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IRI is a Nazi (with a capital N): 

&quot;cancer also became an important social metaphor, as the Nazis portrayed Jews and other &quot;enemies of the Volk&quot; as tumors that must be eliminated from the German body politic.&quot; http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/titles/6573.html 

IRI: &quot;The Filthy Left in this country is a cancer and The Vast Right Wing Christian Conspiracy is the cure. Weâ€™ll win because weâ€™re smarter and better than you. Oh, and we have all the guns. Losers, all your ass are belong to us.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IRI is a Nazi (with a capital N): </p>
<p>&#8220;cancer also became an important social metaphor, as the Nazis portrayed Jews and other &#8220;enemies of the Volk&#8221; as tumors that must be eliminated from the German body politic.&#8221; <a href="http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/titles/6573.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/titles/6573.html</a> </p>
<p>IRI: &#8220;The Filthy Left in this country is a cancer and The Vast Right Wing Christian Conspiracy is the cure. Weâ€™ll win because weâ€™re smarter and better than you. Oh, and we have all the guns. Losers, all your ass are belong to us.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=142149', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-142017</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link from Dkos has the time-change on the website as being only a few hours. &quot;A few hours after the Food and Drug Administration posted on its Web site an announcement naming Dr. Norris E. Alderson, an expert in animal science, acting director of the Office of Womenâ€™s Health, the posting was replaced with an announcement naming Theresa A. Toigo to the post. The new new director is a career employee with a strong backgound in cancer and HIV/AIDS.&quot; 
I&#039;m thinking there wasn&#039;t even a name plaque made ;-)
Although the internet and email is much quicker. Was he really *ever* technincally the acting director?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link from Dkos has the time-change on the website as being only a few hours. &#8220;A few hours after the Food and Drug Administration posted on its Web site an announcement naming Dr. Norris E. Alderson, an expert in animal science, acting director of the Office of Womenâ€™s Health, the posting was replaced with an announcement naming Theresa A. Toigo to the post. The new new director is a career employee with a strong backgound in cancer and HIV/AIDS.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m thinking there wasn&#8217;t even a name plaque made ;-)<br />
Although the internet and email is much quicker. Was he really *ever* technincally the acting director?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=142017', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-142007</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little lost. How is President Bush involved? I thought this was from FDA Commissioner Lester Crawford. Does he now need Presidential approval for anyone he posts? I did a Google on &quot;Norris Alderson fda director&quot; and found nothing saying he was acting director after Sept 16th, the day of the supposed election. However, Here: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/media/pressreleases/pr-050916-fda.xml
it reads, &quot;This morning FDA Commissioner Lester Crawford appointed a man who has spent the majority of his career in the office of veterinary medicine to the position of acting director of the Office of Women&#039;s Health. By this afternoon, Dr. Norris Alderson had been replaced with a Ms. Teresa Toigo.&quot; So the emails and the website posting were mistakes. I don&#039;t see the &quot;spin&quot; unless I&#039;m missing something here. Unless this is another which-hunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little lost. How is President Bush involved? I thought this was from FDA Commissioner Lester Crawford. Does he now need Presidential approval for anyone he posts? I did a Google on &#8220;Norris Alderson fda director&#8221; and found nothing saying he was acting director after Sept 16th, the day of the supposed election. However, Here: <a href="http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/media/pressreleases/pr-050916-fda.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/media/pressreleases/pr-050916-fda.xml</a><br />
it reads, &#8220;This morning FDA Commissioner Lester Crawford appointed a man who has spent the majority of his career in the office of veterinary medicine to the position of acting director of the Office of Women&#8217;s Health. By this afternoon, Dr. Norris Alderson had been replaced with a Ms. Teresa Toigo.&#8221; So the emails and the website posting were mistakes. I don&#8217;t see the &#8220;spin&#8221; unless I&#8217;m missing something here. Unless this is another which-hunt.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=142007', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: cynanne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-142001</link>
		<dc:creator>cynanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos , progressive and proud ! Rightys sex-slanted rantings are welcome over at LGF ( I&#039;m sure ) , but here we&#039;re discussing facts , NOT &#039; hot gossip &#039; ! I-R-Righty should take his crap to Drudge - it goes well with the &#039; whine &#039; they love SO much ! ... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos , progressive and proud ! Rightys sex-slanted rantings are welcome over at LGF ( I&#8217;m sure ) , but here we&#8217;re discussing facts , NOT &#8216; hot gossip &#8216; ! I-R-Righty should take his crap to Drudge &#8211; it goes well with the &#8216; whine &#8216; they love SO much ! &#8230; ;)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=142001', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: progressive and proud</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-141897</link>
		<dc:creator>progressive and proud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, IRI, enough with the psychotic ramblings.  Ryan doesn&#039;t care if you think he is gay or not - whether he is or not.  Dude, it doesn&#039;t bother him.  It does, however, bother me a bit.  It is annoying to see your venom before my third cup of coffee.  Gay this, gay that, for goodness sakes, enough.  

You know how this makes you look don&#039;t you?  Making beastiality references and all, really tacky and quite telling.  So, for the sake of progression, let&#039;s keep this little &quot;problem&quot; you have toned down just a skosh.  K?  

You can&#039;t really make a valid argument, or try, if every other comment is about Ryan&#039;s ass.  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s lovely, but I believe that is a different site you are looking for.  And, to me, gay is a nonissue.  I just don&#039;t care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, IRI, enough with the psychotic ramblings.  Ryan doesn&#8217;t care if you think he is gay or not &#8211; whether he is or not.  Dude, it doesn&#8217;t bother him.  It does, however, bother me a bit.  It is annoying to see your venom before my third cup of coffee.  Gay this, gay that, for goodness sakes, enough.  </p>
<p>You know how this makes you look don&#8217;t you?  Making beastiality references and all, really tacky and quite telling.  So, for the sake of progression, let&#8217;s keep this little &#8220;problem&#8221; you have toned down just a skosh.  K?  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t really make a valid argument, or try, if every other comment is about Ryan&#8217;s ass.  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s lovely, but I believe that is a different site you are looking for.  And, to me, gay is a nonissue.  I just don&#8217;t care.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=141897', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-141872</link>
		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liars, theives and soulless bastards. Theyâ€™re the only company heâ€™s worthy ofâ€¦

Comment by Ryan &quot;call me Sis&quot; Neat

You certainly are a vindictive old queen aren&#039;t you? I&#039;m not at all surprised you know how the queers that lied their way into the clergy get little boys. It sounds like the voice of experience to me. Does it work on little Cub Scouts too? 

Speaking of soulless bastards, you never did tell us who your &quot;Wicked Uncle Ernie&quot; was. Who got your cherry Ryan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liars, theives and soulless bastards. Theyâ€™re the only company heâ€™s worthy ofâ€¦</p>
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<p>You certainly are a vindictive old queen aren&#8217;t you? I&#8217;m not at all surprised you know how the queers that lied their way into the clergy get little boys. It sounds like the voice of experience to me. Does it work on little Cub Scouts too? </p>
<p>Speaking of soulless bastards, you never did tell us who your &#8220;Wicked Uncle Ernie&#8221; was. Who got your cherry Ryan?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=141872', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Neat</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-141640</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Neat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think it would be kind of nice if you posted the content of your â€œpleaâ€. Do that and Iâ€™ll post the content of my note to you turning you down when you asked for deviant sex with my dog. How would that be?&quot;

And we have a classic example of the dysfunction that is the republican.  Because he was clearly raised in an abusive family, Mr Wrong threatens to &#039;lie&#039; to get you in trouble if you&#039;re honest about what he&#039;s done.  This is common in alcoholic or abusive relationships, and it&#039;s often the tactic that adults and priest use to get their molested victims to keep quiet.  It&#039;s also consistent with what happens when the republicans get caught.  For instance with katrina they failed, so they start a lie campaign to shut up those who tell the truth.

MrWrong in his delusional state says he believes his party is telling the truth - and yet he wilfully lies just like they do.  I think he&#039;s clear that his side lies, he just prefers to keep company with like individuals.  Liars, theives and soulless bastards.  They&#039;re the only company he&#039;s worthy of...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think it would be kind of nice if you posted the content of your â€œpleaâ€. Do that and Iâ€™ll post the content of my note to you turning you down when you asked for deviant sex with my dog. How would that be?&#8221;</p>
<p>And we have a classic example of the dysfunction that is the republican.  Because he was clearly raised in an abusive family, Mr Wrong threatens to &#8216;lie&#8217; to get you in trouble if you&#8217;re honest about what he&#8217;s done.  This is common in alcoholic or abusive relationships, and it&#8217;s often the tactic that adults and priest use to get their molested victims to keep quiet.  It&#8217;s also consistent with what happens when the republicans get caught.  For instance with katrina they failed, so they start a lie campaign to shut up those who tell the truth.</p>
<p>MrWrong in his delusional state says he believes his party is telling the truth &#8211; and yet he wilfully lies just like they do.  I think he&#8217;s clear that his side lies, he just prefers to keep company with like individuals.  Liars, theives and soulless bastards.  They&#8217;re the only company he&#8217;s worthy of&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=141640', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Neat</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-141617</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Neat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the spin machine.  I was reading about how the whole school bus spin thing happened.  Someone calculated that it would take 2000 buses to remove just the elderly and sick from new orleans.  Somehow one of the right wingers (I think it was hannity) thought that number sounded good so he said that they had 2000 buses in new orleans that weren&#039;t used.  That spread through the whole press spin cycle all of the way until supposedly LIBERAL media people were saying the same thing because it had been repeated so many times.  The problem is it was a lie from the beginning!

New Orleans doesn&#039;t even have 2000 school buses!  Between city and school buses, they have only 500 each holding only 40 people.  And that number did not calculate the 10s of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of other people who did not have a car or other means of transportation.  In otherwords it was a lie based on information that wasn&#039;t even relevant to the information stated.  Many of the buses apparently were used for ferrying people to and from the shelters as well as a few for exiting from the city, but frankly there just wasn&#039;t enough transportation available to leave.

And this is how the rightwing propaganda machines work.  They fixate on a point or a number (in one of the other threads it was the bogus claim that entitlements for the poor have cost 6 trillion dollars when in fact it&#039;s more like 700 billion) and they ask you to justify based on this &#039;fact&#039; how liberals are awful.  It never dawns on the dopes who are fed this that maybe the facts themselves are flat out lies.  And yet, these lies are repeated as truths by the media echo and propaganda system.  This technique was used by the Nazis and it duped a nation - I&#039;m shocked at how effective it appears to be for republicans.  They truly are the stupidest part of our population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the spin machine.  I was reading about how the whole school bus spin thing happened.  Someone calculated that it would take 2000 buses to remove just the elderly and sick from new orleans.  Somehow one of the right wingers (I think it was hannity) thought that number sounded good so he said that they had 2000 buses in new orleans that weren&#8217;t used.  That spread through the whole press spin cycle all of the way until supposedly LIBERAL media people were saying the same thing because it had been repeated so many times.  The problem is it was a lie from the beginning!</p>
<p>New Orleans doesn&#8217;t even have 2000 school buses!  Between city and school buses, they have only 500 each holding only 40 people.  And that number did not calculate the 10s of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of other people who did not have a car or other means of transportation.  In otherwords it was a lie based on information that wasn&#8217;t even relevant to the information stated.  Many of the buses apparently were used for ferrying people to and from the shelters as well as a few for exiting from the city, but frankly there just wasn&#8217;t enough transportation available to leave.</p>
<p>And this is how the rightwing propaganda machines work.  They fixate on a point or a number (in one of the other threads it was the bogus claim that entitlements for the poor have cost 6 trillion dollars when in fact it&#8217;s more like 700 billion) and they ask you to justify based on this &#8216;fact&#8217; how liberals are awful.  It never dawns on the dopes who are fed this that maybe the facts themselves are flat out lies.  And yet, these lies are repeated as truths by the media echo and propaganda system.  This technique was used by the Nazis and it duped a nation &#8211; I&#8217;m shocked at how effective it appears to be for republicans.  They truly are the stupidest part of our population.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=141617', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Neat</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-141611</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Neat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MrWrong is repressed sexually and hates himself so bad that he wants to kill anyone who doesn&#039;t agree with him.  He threatened Brian and the rest of us &#039;liberals&#039; that he&#039;d put a gun to our heads and pull the trigger.  This is one one of the other threads...

And last night he posted racist diatribes from a white supremacy website.  He&#039;s clearly part of the KKK maniac crew, and one creepy screwed up guy.  What a horrible and abusive childhood he must have had to become such a freak and loser....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MrWrong is repressed sexually and hates himself so bad that he wants to kill anyone who doesn&#8217;t agree with him.  He threatened Brian and the rest of us &#8216;liberals&#8217; that he&#8217;d put a gun to our heads and pull the trigger.  This is one one of the other threads&#8230;</p>
<p>And last night he posted racist diatribes from a white supremacy website.  He&#8217;s clearly part of the KKK maniac crew, and one creepy screwed up guy.  What a horrible and abusive childhood he must have had to become such a freak and loser&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=141611', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-141596</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#40, Yes, this is like a tragic-comedy.  Marx Brothers (Rummy, Chertoff, Cheney), Keystone Kops (FEMA), with Edgar Bergen (Rove) and Charlie McCarthy (Dubya) thrown in.  If all of this were not so serious, it would be funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#40, Yes, this is like a tragic-comedy.  Marx Brothers (Rummy, Chertoff, Cheney), Keystone Kops (FEMA), with Edgar Bergen (Rove) and Charlie McCarthy (Dubya) thrown in.  If all of this were not so serious, it would be funny.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=141596', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I-RIGHT-I</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/google-bush/comment-page-1/#comment-141593</link>
		<dc:creator>I-RIGHT-I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara,

The only troll was MrWrong in another thread where he threatened to put a gun to Brians head and kill him. I made a plea to the moderator to call the FBI and/or his ISP and report him as a terroristâ€¦

Comment by Ryan &quot;only the fax&quot; Neat

I think it would be kind of nice if you posted the content of your &quot;plea&quot;. Do that and I&#039;ll post the content of my note to you turning you down when you asked for deviant sex with my dog. How would that be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara,</p>
<p>The only troll was MrWrong in another thread where he threatened to put a gun to Brians head and kill him. I made a plea to the moderator to call the FBI and/or his ISP and report him as a terroristâ€¦</p>
<p>Comment by Ryan &#8220;only the fax&#8221; Neat</p>
<p>I think it would be kind of nice if you posted the content of your &#8220;plea&#8221;. Do that and I&#8217;ll post the content of my note to you turning you down when you asked for deviant sex with my dog. How would that be?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=141593', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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