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By: Marie

Marie — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:08:05 +0000

#43 Our press is too preoccupied with the approaching storm. One would think that with 24/7 news channels, we would be among the best-informed public in the world, but you would be wrong. Our press panders to the least of us who would watch American Idol and Survivor 24/7 if given a chance.
I did see a teensy article about this in the paper, but it was incoherent and didn’t enlighten me as to what happened or why.

By: Spudge-Boy

Spudge-Boy — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:37:27 +0000

I would add that both Iraq and Afghanistan have asked the “occupying forces” to leave. They both used the term occupying forces. That is important as the Bush administration has stated a number of times that we are not occupying those countries.

It doesn’t matter how many times Bushco states that we are not occupying a country, if the governments (that we put in place) feel they are being occupied.

Have you ever had one of those “friends that wouldn’t leave” (al la Saturday Night Live)?

The US is the friend that wouldn’t leave.

#43 you can replace US with Coalition Forces and this post means the same thing.

By: WiscoDuk

WiscoDuk — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:53:34 +0000

#43

Strange things happen in a civil war. I’ve stated this before. The people of Iraq hate Westerners (especially the US and UK.) Period. In many cases…for good reason. Who do you think were the victims of repressive sanctions? Saddam? Hardly.

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend” scenario never lasts long. The Westerners are infidels occupying a Muslim country in EVERY Iraqis eyes.

By: This side of the pond

This side of the pond — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:54:59 +0000

Can anyone from your side of the pond make head or tail of the riveting “Basra drama” that’s topping headlines here in the U.K…? Keen to know your perspective …

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4263648.stm

By: brain-noogie

brain-noogie — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:41:03 +0000

Government is supposed to be there for the people…that is its job. Corporations are there to make themselves money..most of them at any cost. We are seeing when the two merge into one….the people are secondary, cannon fodder, guinea pigs for EPA testing and all at the worship of the all mighty dollar to make a few rich beyond imagination for most of us. It reeks and it must fell like it did prior to the storming of the Bastille. Our nation is dieing from within. Crazy to watch it happen.

By: Ryan Neat

Ryan Neat — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:58:45 +0000

Great article on the stealing of the last 3 elections. They trash the new carter/baker report for its utter failure to recognize the systemic failures in the system.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/092005G.shtml

By: Ryan Neat

Ryan Neat — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 05:14:43 +0000

Susan,

I’d be more likely to sue the justice department than halliburton. Corporations tend to have more resourced allocated for lawsuits, and they tend to hire vengeful corporate lawyers.

I’m not denying lawsuits can work, but I’ve had very different experiences than yours…

By: Susan

Susan — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:30:38 +0000

One last post on fighting for your rights.

In 1990 me, little ol me sued the Social Security Administration. Did I get the results I expected? Absolutely. Did I have a lawyer? No.

My nephews father died and was entitled to Social Security Survivors benefits. (You know those benefits your tax dollars are supposed to pay for).

My nephews mother and stepmother chose not to fight for what the child was entitled to.

I contacted each and every representative and Senator in my state. I got two responses: 1. Peter Fitzgerald (R Senator) 2. Dick Durbin (D Senator).

Since Fitzgerald responded first Senator Durbin’s office stepped back and let Fitzgerald’s office handle my nephews case.

After months and months of Fitzgeralds office telling me that the Social Security office was not responding I decided to take further action without the help of my Senator.

Knowing that a citizen cannot sue (successfully) the Social Security Administration, I took my $175 filing fee to the Small Claims Clerk and filed a lawsuit against the Social Security Administration and the caseworker who refused (or was not competent)to do his job.

The Clerk laughed and said “your suing the Social Security Admin.?”. I replied, “yes, this should get their attention”. You are allowed to file a case, you just cant win it.

I didn’t go to the assigned court appearance and left the matter to the Justice Dept. After the Justice Dept. filed about 8 motions to dispose of the case, the case was dismissed.

I have in my possession 4 inches of legal paperwork from the justice dept and it only cost me $175.

The Social Security Administration decided to review my nephews case and proceeded to pay all monies due to him.

If taking on the Social Security administration isn’t huge then I don’t know what is. Justice was served. It’s not about fortune.

Know the rules before you play the game.

By: Ryan Neat

Ryan Neat — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:57:21 +0000

Susan,

Many people who would want to use the lawyers to fight can’t afford them. Those that can would prefer to use that money to get on with their lives. Lawsuits are difficult to be a part of – I know because I’ve been on both sides of them personally. They’re distracting, destructive and generally determined by what lawyer is chosen and what judge you get more than the validity of your case. There are good and bad lawyers and judges and you toss a coin as to your fortune.

So while I appreciate your spunk, and I share it, frankly unions are better protection than individuals filing lawsuits… The second choice is costly and fraught with dangers I fear. The legal system has become stacked for those who have money. The whole premise of the frivolous lawsuits recently used to limit awards is just another way to tighten that noose on poor people unfortunately.

By: afterthought

afterthought — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:46:39 +0000

Still, If things get bad enough, more
people will fight one way or the other.
Revolution is ugly, so I hope it does
not come to that.

By: WiscoDuk

WiscoDuk — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:45:11 +0000

“And I’d rather be a free man in my grave, than to be a puppet or a slave”

Anyone know who Joe Hill was? (The above quote is not connected)

By: afterthought

afterthought — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:44:36 +0000

More power to you Susan. I am glad
you are out there.
Some people can’t take the hit.
Call them chicken if you want,
but they have mouths to feed and mortgages
to keep.

By: afterthought

afterthought — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:42:08 +0000

I am with Wisco here: It is very dangerous
to file suit against an employer like Halliburton.
Most large companies smash employee lawsuits.
People like Judge Roberts will help Halliburton
as much as they can.
It really is pretty hopeless.
I give anyone immense credit who is willing
to try.
Career suicide is the correct term, both at
current employer and any future as well.

By: Susan

Susan — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:37:00 +0000

Doesn’t matter if you win the case or not Ryan Neat. Lawsuits cost money and cause stress. Getting the media to report the lawsuit helps too. Look at Walmarts lawsuit. The media is reporting that one.

Regardless, being a chickenshit is not the answer, standing up for your rights is.

Personally, I’d rather be jobless and poor than slave for an abusive employer.

In my original post I was suggesting taking charge of your own life and working for yourself.

Thats what I do. You can learn more by listening to my radio show at my website. (I talk about thinkprogress there because I believe in what thinkprogress does)

I’ve created my own job.