The Truth About the Buses
The Truth About the Buses
Rush Limbaugh’s website, 9/22/05:
Rush forgot to include the full, accurate photo captions:
Nearly three weeks after Hurricane Katrina raged ashore, Gov. Kathleen Blanco still wants one question answered.
Where were the buses?
Hours after the hurricane hit Aug. 29, the Federal Emergency Management Agency announced a plan to send 500 commercial buses into New Orleans to rescue thousands of people left stranded on highways, overpasses and in shelters, hospitals and homes.
On the day of the storm, or perhaps the day after, FEMA turned down the state’s suggestion to use school buses because they are not air conditioned, Blanco said Friday in an interview. [Baton Rouge Advocate, 9/18/05]
Government officials eager to show they had learned their lessons from the sluggish response to Katrina sent in hundreds of buses to evacuate the poor. An Army general in Texas was told to be ready to assume control of a military task force in Rita’s wake. [AP, 9/22/05]
Rush, we agree — what a difference competent leaders make.
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nice try, gang. Gov. Perry is teaching Democrats a lesson in tragedy management from a state level. The GOP will teach you nationally come next fall…. (again).
You can’t beat us now. For all our faults, we’re still not liberals and that’s good enough to keep us in power.
September 22nd, 2005 at 3:49 pmor Leaders Who Want to Appear to be Competent™
September 22nd, 2005 at 3:49 pmLook, a troll. Lucky us.
September 22nd, 2005 at 3:54 pmSame thing over and over.
what trolls?…I just don’t see any….
September 22nd, 2005 at 3:59 pmrust limpdick, minister of fear and bullshit.
Competence makes a big difference.
servant5150
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:03 pmHookah Forum
The question still remains: why didn’t Bush fire Brownie ??
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:05 pmLots of questions still remain.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:08 pmThat’s why we need an INDEPENDENT inquiry.
Chips fall where they may.
And yet the reichwingers will continue to spew the propaganda lies like projectile diarrhea… Compuslive liars can’t help themselves – it’s what they do.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:08 pmThe only reason Texas is doing anything is it is a Republican state and Bushie has a so called 5 cow ranch there.
The governor of LA asked for help and was refused help.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:10 pmIn Mississippi old Bushie called him four or five times. You can see were their priorities are. This is a Republican state.
That CAN’T be true.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:15 pmPresident FUBAR is a “uniter not a divider”,
he would NEVER consider partisanship in
making decisions.
Or maybe he was talking about his math
skills and “uniter” was a “bushism” for
“sum” as in addition, i.e., he can add,
but never “got” long division?
Gov. Perry is a washed up has-been. He is benefiting from the fact that Bush is desparate not to fail this hurricane response as badly as he did the last one. Even with all that incentive they still leave stranded motorists all over the highway and trucks full of ice all over the country.
Bush would have to be in a permanent vegitative state to mess this one up after being caught holding a cake and then a quitar during Katrina. Even he’s not THAT dumb.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:17 pmI think you have that just right, Andrew.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:19 pmND–
You can’t beat us now. For all our faults, we’re still not liberals and that’s good enough to keep us in power.
—–
Sometimes, you post such obvious nonsense that I think you have to be a paid Think Progress employee here to stir things up.
NO wingnut could be THAT nutty. Tell the truth.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:22 pmOne would hope that by now even Govs such as Texas Rick “Mofo” Perry would have learned from Katrina. Typical goating with the benefit of hindsight.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:22 pmLike a stock “basher” on Yahoo.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:23 pmI have noticed the similarities.
NED,
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:27 pmYour time is coming. We will beat you in 2006.
Jonathan,
Unfortunately they can – I’ve met some of them personally. Some of the reichwingers are truly clincally insane individuals.
Even the ones that ’seem’ normal tend to breakdown into psychosis when you push on their delusions. It’s really sad but true…
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:34 pmI’m thinking back to something someone posted to this blog recently. It was about George the Stupid. Let me see if I can paraphrase correctly:
“George Bush is all hat and no cattle”. :-)
Of course they would pull out all the stops to save the state his much frequented vacation home is located in.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:37 pmI like this line:
“Even the ones that ’seem’ normal tend to breakdown into psychosis when you push on their delusions.”
That is the way it appears to me when I tease
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:37 pmthem a bit too much. You really can’t get far
with the residents of “fox-world”.
Mary Poppin – you have no chance in hell. AN internal poll released today shows the GOP still winning on the issues. However eroded Bush’s support is, the Democrats have not proven to be an honest alternative.
Look how the behaved over Roberts? They are dying and they know it. The country is bleeding red and it while they be upset with the GOP, they don’t like the idea of Howard Dean and Norman Lear setting the agenda for the nation.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:37 pmHey, I’ve come across my share of nutcase wingnuts, but thinking that they’ll stay in power just because they’re so special…well, that crosses a new line into true weirdness.
Of course, I’m sure NED missed the unintended hilarity of his comment: the notion that, should the GOP win next year, it will be a tragedy in need of management. On that, I’m sure we all agree.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:38 pmafterthought,
That’s because they are drawn to conservatism because of its ‘easy answers’. When you remind them that the world is complicated and has ambiguity you are spoiling their fantasy. And like any child who’s in a fantasy – they don’t want awakened from it…
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:38 pmBetter DEAD than RED, NED.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:39 pm“The country is bleeding red..”
That’s the only true statement NED has ever made”
Thousands dead in the south.
Thousands dead in iraq.
The country is bleeding red because of mismanagement, ineptitude, fantasies of reichwingers and hatred from psychotic morons…
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:40 pmNED,
Give it up. I can read polls too, and frankly, you’re full of it.
For as long as I can remember, gang, the GOP loses on most of the issues every time you poll. This, of course, is why the GOP has to lie about its positions constantly.
That’s only gotten worse recently, and if the GOP keeps up its stellar efforts, the Dems will have to send them a thank-you card in November 2006.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:41 pmThe whole platform is based on deceit.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:42 pmSo the question must be asked:
Does Texas have air-conditioned schoolbuses??
(p.s., dear trolly, which would you rather be a member of? The party that says “I believe my party is right” or the party that says “My party sucks but at least they’re not the other party”? E-mail me privately, the witch next door — all one word — at gmail. Kisses!)
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:44 pmGetting back to the original topic (something NED seems unusally eager to avoid), it’s clear that the administratino is determined to look a little better this time around, but the problem for them is that it’s creating a strong contrast between this disaster and the last in people’s minds and putting the lie to all their excuses.
The President was responsible for leading the response to Katrina. Most Americans know it, and they won’t forget. Whatever shine was left on the administration (and by connection, the GOP) has become thoroughly tarnished.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:44 pmDo not mimick NeD’s hatred. Progressivness is an inevitable byproduct of this administration. America’s conciousness is rising !!(evidence is in the polls)
Soon the middle class will not be able to deny that the Bush administration and the GOP stand on FALSE moral grounds. The GOP’s policies are detrimental to the livelihood of hard working americans and their families.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:45 pmNED is part of a small and shrinking minority in this country that think 1) the administration is doing a dandy job and 2) would vote GOP rather than Democratic at this point. Judging by the record shrillness coming from the far right, I’d say they are actually aware of this, at some level, even if they lack the brainpower or integrity to admit it.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:48 pmTrue Jonathan.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:49 pmAdd to that the ever expanding
Abramoff/DeLay/Safavian/Ney/Rove
icky corruption problem and things
aren’t so pretty for the REDs.
Actually, now that I think about it,
the incompetence and corruption of
the GOP does remind one of the Soviet
Union.
Johnathan – actually, while most people weren’t happy with Bush, they blame Blanco more. Mayor Nagrin is now seen as a national disgrace. I think the left has overplayed their hand…. again. AND with people now claiming that Bush blew up the levees to save the white people, I think the GOP will come out on top…. again.
Liberals are so hated right now. It’s hysterical. While we pack the Court with right-wing idealogues, you guys are still in here bashing a lame duck. Pathetic.
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:51 pmHe-He, What are you smoking NED?
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:52 pmFor those who can read and understand polls it sure doesn’t look like King George’s trend lines bode well for he or his Greedy ‘Ol Parasites:
http://www.zogby.com/features/featuredtables.dbm?ID=42
Regarding what’s most important to Americans:
http://www.zogby.com/features/featuredtables.dbm?ID=124
And where does George the Stupid rate on the areas that recieved the highest ranking? Well, let’s put it this way, there’s no way that the GOP will win in the next cycle if it were a fair election. But if the GOP can hack the next election like they did the previous elections they could probably reclaim control.
Demand a paper trail come next election. Impeach Bush NOW!!!
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:53 pmYou going to start talking about your inner
September 22nd, 2005 at 4:53 pm“Chang” like Jebby? He must get a cut from
the mafia in Miami.
As I look at these pictures I can’t help but wonder why the New Orleans buses are in standing water. Why didn’t Blanco and the Mayor get people evacuated on those buses? Answer: they had an evacuation plan but never enacted it.
To blame FEMA for not delivering buses when they obviously had hundreds (thousands?)available before the hurricane struck is a red herring.
Texas leadership: competent. Louisiana leadership: incompetent.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:00 pmDid you even read the story this thread began with you conservative idiot? No wonder you guys make stupid decisions, you only look at cartoons and pictures and never read the facts. What about “On the day of the storm, or perhaps the day after, FEMA turned down the state’s suggestion to use school buses because they are not air conditioned.” didn’t you understand.
You seemed more reasonable than the average republican before you posted this stupid and irrational comment.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:03 pmHey Northeast Dilemma, I see you are still hanging around trying to help me out with sniping and badgering the liberals here. Let me thank you in advance as I haven’t been getting the job done. I like the snide, smug shot you took in #1 noting that Governor Perry is “teaching the democrats a lesson in leadership.” Also, that crack to Mary Poppin in #20 about some poll or such, where do you get your information?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the polls I have seen show Governor Perry dropping faster than a crushed beer can at a Texas BBQ. Perry is even worse off than Bush in the polls and is down to a 39% approval rating among voters in Texas. Also, you failed to say “Kerry” or “Clinton” as you usually do so I guess you realize that those name don’t work any more since both are, once again, now more popular than even our own president.
One other thing, NED, this article is about Rush Limbaugh and “competent” leaders. You shouldn’t be mentioning the likes of Governor Perry, who is suddenly behaving like his other two Texas buddies, Bush and DeLay in trying to save his sorry ass and get a raise in his sinking poll numbers.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:05 pmWell, they had their chance to prove their “bold new ideas” would work, and they didn’t. Too bad it took all this pain to make people realize that boring old dedication, competence, and good management is really all we need.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:15 pmUmmm… CC, is it the competence of Texas authorities that got FEMA and federal authorities pre-positioned this time? Was it local incompetence that caused a 3-day delay in FEMA and other federal response last time?
Or is it just politics-as-usual?
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:17 pmcynical,
Bush never resorted to that when he was bankrupting his 3 businesses – why would the fed job be any different for him? See as a wealthy elitist he prefers to fail upwards. I hear he plans to appoint himself a failed deity next…
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:17 pmJohnathan – actually, while most people weren’t happy with Bush, they blame Blanco more
And given the fact that most people don’t live in Louisiana and won’t ever vote for her, this is pretty much irrelevant.
Bush, however, is a national matter, which is why all the recent polls I’ve seen favor Demos over GOP by roughly 12 points.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:18 pmOne can caption that same Limbaugh picture with:
“What a Difference Class Makes”
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:19 pmSigh. Yes Ryan I read the thread. And please don’t lecture me about being a simpleton. My sensitive conservative ego bruises easily.
Tell you what. Go back and read it again and tell me that Blanco had a clue what she was doing. “I assumed they were close by” Why would she assume that? What a moron.
See all those buses in the water, Ryan? Why didn’t she use those before they got swamped? Because she is an incompetent idiot, that’s why.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:21 pmJonathan,
That only matters if the voting machines are fixed. The deviation in ‘official tallies’ in some swing states was 14% from the exit poll numbers – showing exactly how desperate and extreme the measures are that Reichwingers will stoop to hold onto power illegally.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:21 pmAs I look at these pictures I can’t help but wonder why the New Orleans buses are in standing water. Why didn’t Blanco and the Mayor get people evacuated on those buses? Answer: they had an evacuation plan but never enacted it.
If the point were a bird, CC, you’d have crap on your forehead.
Of course, to add to the main post, there were far fewer buses in NOLA (and people to drive them) than would have been necessary to get even a fraction of the people out.
And for the record, they DID follow the emergency plan in effect at the time, which called for evacuating people to shelters of last resort (funny how you never hear the “shelters” part from wingnut talking heads. Too inconvenient, I guess).
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:22 pmCynical ex, yes I think smooth cooperation between state and federal oranizations would indicate more competence than Blanco showed.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:22 pmBlanco did her job. She declared an emergency; she requested a declaration of national disaster, and she requested expidited emergency status. The administration obliged, which made them automatically responsible for relief and the President personally responsible to take the lead in the disaster.
The local officials followed the existing emergency plan, which had been developed in conjunction with federal officials.
You guys got nothin’. But do keep trying.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:24 pm“Sigh. Yes Ryan I read the thread. And please don’t lecture me about being a simpleton. My sensitive conservative ego bruises easily.”
And yet you respond with another simpleton answer. BECAUSE FEMA TOLD HER NOT TO – I’m assuming that’s simple enough for you? Probably not…
Also, you haven’t read anything about this subject have you?
1) Number of buses required to evacuate city residents requiring transportation – 2000.
2) Number of buses (school and city transit) capable of being used – under 500.
3) Were buses used to ferry people to shelters to assist in their evacuation after the storm? Yes
4) Were many buses left in their lots because FEMA told them not to use them to evacuate the city itself? Yes
Do you need it to be more clear than that?
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:25 pmI don’t view this as a matter of competence versus incompetence; this is a P.R. spin. In the wake of Katrina, the government must show that it “takes these matters seriously.” I belive that the poor would have been left in TX as they were in LA if the world was not watching.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:26 pmOh, and CC — there is nothing in the Homeland Security Act, the Stafford Act or the National Response Plan that says federal officials have to wait for the locals to invite them in or work with them.
FEMA turned down help from Amtrack, from Walmart, even from foreign governments. They couldn’t have done that if the locals had primary responsibility.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:27 pmStill waiting for someone here to explain why all those buses were left standing until the flood prevented using them.
What’s the death toll now? About 1,000? I see at least 100 buses in that picture. Seems like that would have been plenty of buses to get those people out.
Jonathan, you little know-it-all, you want to take a crack at it?
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:27 pmAnd my favorites
5) Did the federal government mismanage the crucial hours during and after the flooding was detected? Yes
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:27 pm6) Would lives have been saved if a competent FEMA director like the one appointed by Clinton been in charge? Yes
7) Did FEMA make decisions that obstructed the rescue and extraction of people because of mismanagement and ignorance? Yes
8) Could all parties have done better? Yes
9) Which party was the most responsible, had the most resources, and should have had the most resources to deal with this issue? FEMA
10) Who did the least? FEMA
Leslie — agree. Even so, I would imagine there will be many people unable to get out.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:28 pmCC — since it’s been explained to you several times in English, and since you’ve given no indication that you’re more proficient in any other tongue, I respectfully decline.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:29 pmINDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION!
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:29 pmChips fall where they may.
-> Blanco
-> Nagin
-> Chertoff
-> Brownie
-> FUBAR “shows up four days later” Bush
(Like Bandar Bush only far more incompetent)
“What’s the death toll now? About 1,000? I see at least 100 buses in that picture. Seems like that would have been plenty of buses to get those people out.”
Actually many of the people who did refused to leave their homes because they either didn’t think they would be safe in the shelter, had no where to go, or any number of other reasons – so buses wouldn’t have helped, or did you miss that KEY fact.
Also, to rescue those people who had refused to leave, if FEMA had been on its toes like it was under Clinton, they would have been able to rescue large numbers of those people. They didn’t have their crap together and hundreds if not thousands of lives were lost because of it.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:30 pmafterthought,
I agree – TRULY independent investigation – not that crap of an excuse they called the 9/11 commission.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:30 pmLet see, the local government screwed up, the state government screwed up and the federal government screwed up (I will grant you that, OK?). My conclusion is that all levels of government tend to be incompetent.
And don’t give me the argument that it’s just the Bushco Repubs who are incompetent — clearly that is not the case here.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:32 pmRyan,
It would have been a cool trick to determine beforehand who exactly was going to die from the disaster, and get those people on to busses.
Come to think of it, being able to do that would make disaster management a whole lot easier :)
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:33 pmOkay CC. Some common ground.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:35 pmYou want to contact your GOP buddies
and FUBAR Bush about the truely
independent investigation?
I’m not a “pioneer”, Halliburton Boss,
or Oilman, so they don’t listen to me.
That’s right Jonathan, when you are losing the argument go right to insults.
Others here know that I am willing to engage in a real dialogue. Apparently you are not.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:35 pmCC — the federal government had primary responsibility in this disaster, thanks to the Homeland Security Act and the National Response Plan.
Those items spell out exactly what is to happen in a disaster. When the administration declared a “national disaster” under the Stafford Act, it automatically made Katrina hitting NOLA an “Incident of National Significance”. This status confers special powers and responsibilities on the feds that would otherwise likely fall to the locals.
So yeah, in this case, it really is fair to say that the main failing was on the federal level.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:35 pmCC — I probably wouldn’t have gone that way, if you hadn’t started with the “know-it-all” stuff.
This really HAS been explained several times: FEMA told Blanco not to use the busses. Since the Feds were taking the lead by statute, that’s a pretty good reason not to use the busses.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:37 pm“My conclusion is that all levels of government tend to be incompetent.”
And yet FEMA ran great under Clinton – your conclusion misses that key fact. Or the fact that the plans that were largely followed by the state and local government were FEMA approved – the organization RESPONSIBLE for creating. And when in 2001 the potential flooding issue was brought up and the risk analysis screamed that this was a critical emergency – the bush adminstration cut flooding related spending and instead spent 200 billion on an unneccessary war, when 2.5 billion would have made the city safe from a category 5 storm.
So this is more of a republican incompetence issue than a government incompetence issue… Consistently republicans mis-spend money, don’t properly allocate resources, and destroy the very fabric of our governmental support system. They don’t believe in government – because they’re too incompetent to implement it!
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:37 pmafterthought,
If I had any connections to Bush I would certainly encourage an independent investigation. This was on major f*&k up.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:38 pm“That’s right Jonathan, when you are losing the argument go right to insults.”
Oh please, you think way too highly of yourself or your answers. You aren’t winning anything other than the realization that you aren’t as reasonable or rational as you think…
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:38 pm“If I had any connections to Bush I would certainly encourage an independent investigation. This was on major f*&k up.”
Now you’ve finally said the only rational thing I’ve heard from a conservative on this message board!
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:39 pmOne of the largest disasters to strike
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:40 pmthe US (other than FUBAR Bush) requires
more resources than city or state government
have.
That is why FEMA exists, or at least before
FUBAR made it a crony dumping ground, and
9/11 was supposed to be the wake-up call
to disruptive events. They knew Katrina
was coming (of course PDB 8/6/01 also
suggested OBL was coming) and FUBAR
played guitar.
OK, Jonathan. Truce.
I was not aware that FEMA had told her not to use the buses (I have been out of the country for the last 12 days and missed a lot of what has been written). If that is true then most of the blame should fall on FEMA and the Bush admin.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:41 pmConcerned,
You are truly an anomaly in your party – may you go forth, breed and be fruitful! Your side has become entirely propagandist and fascist – I hope you and people like you help your party find your way back from that place!
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:43 pmRyan, I do think highly of myself. Thanks for noticing ;-)
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:44 pmThere’s a lot of misinformation going around. Lots of CYA.
Watch what FEMA does for RITA, and compare to how things went in NOLA. Remember, they didn’t need the locals to give permission to act.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:44 pmBy the way, CC — I really DO apologize for getting a little nasty. Knee-jerk response, I guess, from too many years arguing online. Time for a vacation…
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:48 pm“Ryan, I do think highly of myself.”
Nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn’t get in the way of one’s growth! My guess is that you’re a conservative because you don’t know the full story, not because you’re a complete and utter idiot. Way too many in your party suffer from the second condition – especially the ones that feel compelled to come here and spew their tripe…
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:50 pmJonathan,
You did nothing undignified – you just happen to have a rare species of opponent today… One willing to use his rational mind instead of his emotional fears…
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:51 pmCC,
Did you see my final responses on the education thing, go read it if you haven’t in the other thread. I think you might find it useful.
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:51 pmCC ~
September 22nd, 2005 at 5:53 pmBlanco and Nagin also should fall for the jackasstrophic mcfungle in Iraq, right?
#18 – You quoted me correctly – Dumbya is all hat no cattle.
As for his so called ranch, it is a former pig farm. 1600 acres formerly home to many swine. Now, it is still a pig farm, not ranch.
The only difference now is instead of hundreds of pigs running around, there is only one trained monkey.
I saw a story today that said he takes so much time off because he is back on the sauce and coke and when he is on a tear, they cart him off to the pig farm. Makes a lot of sense actually.
September 22nd, 2005 at 6:30 pm#45, you forgot to mention that in some counties dumbya got 250% of the votes. They didn’t think anyone would dig into the facts, so they got bolder after the 2000 election fraud.
Exit polls don’t lie either. Bush lost! both times.
September 22nd, 2005 at 6:38 pmkjlovell,
Here are the actual 2000 recount figures – the raw data is available on this site. The ‘calculations’ used by the mainstream media to conclude bush won simply don’t exist. It’s all fantasy!
September 22nd, 2005 at 6:43 pmSorry to disagree, but the mainstream media figures to exist.
September 22nd, 2005 at 6:46 pmkjlovell,
This site debunks those media numbers – read it and see if you still agree…
Vanity fair also confirmed this intentional misreading of the results in its expose…
September 22nd, 2005 at 6:51 pmYou can’t beat us now. For all our faults, we’re still not liberals and that’s good enough to keep us in power.
Mary Poppin – you have no chance in hell. AN internal poll released today shows the GOP still winning on the issues. However eroded Bush’s support is, the Democrats have not proven to be an honest alternative.
Look how the behaved over Roberts? They are dying and they know it. The country is bleeding red and it while they be upset with the GOP, they don’t like the idea of Howard Dean and Norman Lear setting the agenda for the nation.
Quit smoking the Northeast Dillweed. It’s no better than Oregano, unless you put it on your spaghetti. Even a major terrorist attack won’t save the GOP now. It was a one shot deal and you guys screwed the pooch big time. As far as pitchers go, you only got one pitch. A curveball. No fastball, no sinker, and no change up, and a change up is what you really need because that curveball is turning into a stinker.
September 22nd, 2005 at 6:55 pmThose buses. Did all the conservatives get off the short bus? Only liberals would have a long bus.
http://www.politicalpuzzle.org/?p=110#comments
September 22nd, 2005 at 7:04 pmI do think Dillweed may think the GOP can run the gubmint by phone, from inside. Like Martha did. What a dreamer.
September 22nd, 2005 at 7:07 pmNED,
Your desperate cling to your “GOP Gods’ and your pathetic need to “belong” to a “side” that you believe is “winning†makes your remarks ring out as chilling, scared and ignorant.
If the only thing that concerns you is that you are on the winning or right side (no pun intended) come the next election, no matter how many people have to suffer and/or die under your precious gods, then why do you waste your time struggling to defend their actions, like on this site?
You’re so willing to stand up and voice your support for your “gods” causes, yet you obviously lack the intestinal fortitude to actually stand up and get involved.
“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.” — Theodore Roosevelt
You’re worse then the critic NED. You’re simply a cheerleader; someone who is too week to take part, and too scared to be wrong.
September 22nd, 2005 at 8:40 pmI like that quote Elvis.
September 22nd, 2005 at 8:50 pmHow come nobody orates like that anymore?
Rush you’re right, where is a good leader when you need one. Like, say, Crazy Ivan Joe Stalin. He’d apply the “No man…No problem” adage to your sorry ass long ago.
September 22nd, 2005 at 9:40 pmThese trolls are amusing. In november 2006, the dems will win the house and senate and bush will be impeached. He’ll survive the trial, but he WILL be impeached. Bush is a liar, a murderer and a coward. He is the reason America is hated all over the world. He was incompetent and didn’t stop 9-11 when he had reports of what was happening because he was SO busy planning to get revenge for daddy. Anyone who voted for bush ought to the honorable thing and kill themselves.
September 22nd, 2005 at 9:43 pmKevin,
If we can secure the voting machines and the election process – I know you are right! I fear for our votes counting, and not the voice of america. In the end it has always found a reasonable voice – we just need to work to ensure that the voice of democracy and the will of the people isn’t crushed by these theofascists…
September 22nd, 2005 at 9:50 pm[...] We also have a war of the school buses, with Republicans contrasting the evacuation of the Texas coast with the flooded NoLa buses, and Lousiana governor Blanco saying FEMA turned down her school buses because they weren’t air conditioned. The recent deaths of elderly evacuees in a bus fire on a Texas highway will only fan the flames, if you’ll pardon the heartless pun. [...]
September 23rd, 2005 at 9:38 amSomething else that hasn’t gotten wide airplay: evidently, Gov. Blanco was concerned about traffic gridlock had she ordered a mandatory evacuation earlier. Instead, she persuaded local church leaders to push people to start heading out.
As we’re now seeing in the Houston area, this probably wasn’t that bad of an idea.
September 23rd, 2005 at 9:59 am“nice try, gang. Gov. Perry is teaching Democrats a lesson in tragedy management from a state level.”
This classic NeD comment shows us all his ignorance and his naive rushes to judgment. It looks like the spin started a little early, though. So, on a STATE level, Rita evacuees are stuck on the highway and running out of gas. You know, that IS a lesson.
See, troll, states are only able to do so much. We give the feds our money to help us when, at a state level, it is just too much to overcome. Your ignorance reestablishes why we vote the way we do. GOP is all smoke and mirrors. Eventually the smoke clears.
September 23rd, 2005 at 10:15 amCall for an investigation all you want, you won’t get it. The Republicans own everything but our souls and they’ll just put up some lackeys. Just like in that case of price gouging.
September 23rd, 2005 at 1:57 pm“Hey, lets put up one of Bush’s hyper-conservative buddies who is eye-deep in the oil business to investigate price gouging! Its not like thats a blatant case of conflict of interest or anything.”
… I wonder , how Republicans that AREN’T INSANE like most neocon Bushites , stand watching the shameless diorama of cronyism & greed that this adSINastration has displayed ? I thought the Repubs were all about SAVING money , not ” p***ing it up the wall ” – why aren’t the REAL Repubs screaming from the rafters ?!? …
September 23rd, 2005 at 4:39 pmI think it’s obvious that Gov. Perry is learning from the prior experience with Hurricane Katrina so it would not be fair to compare his performance to that of Gov. Blanco.
Of course, Gov. Perry may also have learned from the experience with Hurricane Andrew, or Ivan, or Betsy, or Camille, or any number of hurricanes that seem to strike the US Gulf Coast from Florida to Texas pretty much this time every year going back as far as records have been kept. I know that seems far-fetched but it just might be the case.
One still has to wonder why Gov. Blanco seemed to never to have contemplated the possibility of a hurricane before the appearance or Katrina. I personally don’t think this is a democrat vs. republican or a liberal vs. conservative issue but rather one of competence vs. incompetence. Sadly, the citizens of La. have an incompetent for a governor and the citizens of New Oleans have a similar incompetent for a mayor.
September 23rd, 2005 at 5:51 pmIs it my imagination, or is it “only” the red states that God has put His wrath upon??? Hmmmm….
September 23rd, 2005 at 6:02 pmcynanne,
It’s an easy explanation of why so many republicans are duped…
It’s the confidence man scam. Those republicans who are greedy (as most are) are given the promise of getting rich, big tax cuts, cutting crime by not codling the poor ‘black man’ and welfare queens while they kill any of them that are ‘dangerous’. And the promise the NeoCons to protect Israel at all costs. They’re scammed into believing that they’ll get their dreams, but in fact the core GOP is really about stealing them blind. It’s very much a scam.
September 23rd, 2005 at 10:19 pmIs there any reason to believe the buses on the highway are actually moving? If they are gridlocked and basically parked, and Rita curves westerly …
Has anyone else noticed that Phillipe appears to be looping back toward the east coast?
September 23rd, 2005 at 11:26 pmThink Progress,
If you want to have any credibility, you need to blame Blanco and Nagin for incompetence and poor leadership. You can’t just blame everything on Bush. It wasn’t Bush’s job to evacuate the Desire project. That was Nagin’s job.
Not to mention it was black New Orleanians who turned the Superdome and the Convention Center into a ghetto in three days, not Bush.
September 26th, 2005 at 8:33 amLyle,
Were you born that stupid, or did it take a lifetime for you reach that level?
Lets see, 10,000 people with no showers, limited bathrooms, virus vectors producing vomit, no proper trash facilities.
I’d say FEMA’s late response did a great job of once again leaving poor people to rot and blaming them for the mess when it’s clear they can’t get out. You republicans are a piece of work! You’re the stupidest and most heartless excuses for a human being on earth! You judge others, yet your evil actions and oppression put those people there in the first place. Curse you, you fool!
September 26th, 2005 at 2:12 pmAmen Lyle, Oh and Ryan are you wearing one of those colorful plastic wristbands to show your compassion? If not, you really should get one.
September 28th, 2005 at 4:10 pmI’ve lived through several hurricanes. when mandatory evacuation were announced we stayed inside our home in Lake Jackson,Tx. and watched the radar on the TV and net. don’t get me wrong we were ready to leave just not needlessly and I’m really glad we didn’t listen to the people in the know, cause all they showed me is they don’t know much about s#*t when it comes to helping people in a real pinch!!
September 30th, 2005 at 11:23 pmI have been responding to wing-nuts who e-mail me the rushised version of this for weeks now!
I am so glad that people (those with the desire for the truth) have seen that the FEMA (FEBLE) people told them not to use the buses because they were not air conditioned!
As for Nor-east dimentia, no comment, I can’t fix stupid.
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