This is all because the monkey in office decided the money Clinton alotted to shore up the levees needed to be spent paying back all of the scumbags that got him “elected.”
Obviously they weren’t expecting another huge hurricane so soon. They though their shitty patch job would keep people quiet atleast until next hurricane season.
Will they just fix the levee and give the poor people of New Orleans a break?
P & P – you’re such a loser!! Bush spent more on the levee than Clinton ever did. Why don’t you blame porker Landrieu who used money for other reasons (um – like further corrupting LA politics which her family has been doing for years).
P & P – you’re probably the most offensive person in this blog. You think you are some of type intellectual. You found a safe haven in liberalism to justify all the abortions you probably had. You’re pathetic creature.
Except the Bush administration with its childish optmism everybody knew that it is kind of stupid to have a whole city relying on leeves only build for a 30 year flood.
UM JOHN – those leveee were there since what, the 60s??!?!? Why blame Bush for that? The left’s unreasonable attacks on Bush are falling on tin ears. You want to bitch about something, bitch about how dumb it would be to rebuild there.
Yes, it’s all Clinton’s fault. Keep on telling yourself that.
So what is Bushie doing to prevent it from happening again? Why of course, protecting Exxon/Mobil and Valero from being having to spend a little bit of THAT profit they are bilking from us the consumer! (”us” as in You too)
You are getting pretty personal NeD. Don’t you think that comes off as desperate? Why do you hang out with me? Why do you want to be around me? It’s tantamount to a little puppy that follows you home. Puppies are cute, though.
If I offend you more than anyone than I am comfortable with that. It just doesn’t matter to me what you think. I find you abusive and totally out of control. I suppose you hate me because I represent a team that won’t have you. Sure, people hate what they fear or don’t understand.
I don’t consider myself an intellectual. I am an average thinking person. I see you getting very angry at me and it doesn’t affect me on a personal level, but I am offended by your lack of knowledge and constant repetition. You either don’t seem to know why you feel the way you do; or you just don’t know how to articulate it well.
You use the LOL a lot and that seems, well, kind of psychotic. I mean, no one in their sane mind sits around laughing while posting hate messages.
Why don’t you take a clue from Concerned Conservative? He engages in discussion and a sometimes heated back and forth. This is how we start to understand each other. Disagree as we may, it’s nice to read posts with smart delivery and well thought out ideas.
Yes NeD because I am pro choice, well, of course, I get pregnant just TO HAVE ABORTIONS. I mean, if I could get pregnant twice a month that would be 24 abortions a year. Maybe I can get into the Guiness Book that way. Birth control is cheap and abortions are expensive, but hell, it’s worth the money. That is what you think of women, right?
the military is claiming the levee is NOT breached… that quote is right next to a PICTURE of a hole in the levee, streaming water. oh, and we’re winning in irq, too!
Wear it like a badge of honor, progressive & proud! He called you an “intellectual”, which is the worst slur a rightist can use.
I’d like to say something to everybody. I’m fairly new here, but I think I read a rule saying that people should be respectful of others. The remark by Northeast Dilemma in #8 above is malicious, stupid and offensive. Can’t we keep this guy out of here?
It doesn’t make your remarks any less offensive. Can’t remember Kerry or Kennedy slandering anybody. I do remember the Swift Boat Frauds, though. Slander as political technique. That’s okay, but for a liberal to speak up about, well, just about anything, is an outrage.
Kerry slandered his fellow troops in 1971. He also slandered the President as a liar when he also supported the war. Kennedy slandered Bork, Thomas and he tried with Roberts, but he couldn’t get away with it. The country is much more conservative now. AND Kennedy actually murdered woman – did you know that?
The Swifties did America a huge favor in outing Kerry as the Commie sympathizer he was.
If you watch long enough, he covers most of the fascist creed in a single day. His pal IRI usually tries for 5 or 6 points from the 14 points in a single post – he’s a real heavyweight fascist.
Everytime I read Ned’s posts, I start thinking about David Berkowitz – why is that?
I already correct this lie earlier – you forget the facts so easily – you are truly a propagandists dream or willing participant. Either way, you’re a pathetic idiot…
Slander involves making things up. Kerry was a ‘witness’ to confessions, and was testifying as a ‘heresay witness’. This is not the definition of slander – and what he said as testimony was in fact repeated by other witnesses. You should really pick a new lie to repeat – this one is debunked to everyone but the most diehard of lying retards (that would be you).
“The Swifties did America a huge favor in outing Kerry as the Commie sympathizer he was.”
When Kerry was ‘fighting the commies’, your fascist dictator was snorting coke and dodging his duty (just like he did last month when he was on vacation during a national disaster).
You are a lying treasonous israeli zionist – you are the traitor!
Kerry told the truth in ‘71 and you know it. Why did soldiers come out and talk about atrocities if they didn’t commit them?
If you really want to make a point, you should stay away from the lying issue. Kerry voted for a measure that would allow Bush to go to war if he got UN buy-in. He didn’t of course. Kerry also wanted 9 of that 18 billion to be in the form of a loan. A reasonable stipulation that Bush was against. Looks pretty good now that the 9 billion is just plain gone.
Ted Kennedy never murdered anybody. Do you know anything about the case? Do you know that the young woman had no scratches on her face, despite the fact that the passenger window was smashed? The likely truth is that she was driving. You gotta have the facts, man.
Commie sympathizer? Are you living in 1952? My god. Give it up. You just admitted that they were full of it—-they only wanted to get back at Kerry for his perceived sins. There was no truth there.
Bush: coward, shirker, deserter, liar. All backed up by FACTS.
My old bud, NED. Hey, I liked that cheap crack at P&P you took in calling him/her a “loser” and a “pathetic creature” who has probably had an abortion. If so, maybe he/she was afraid it would grow up and look or sound like Rush Limbaugh, so we really can’t hold that against anyone, can we?
But correct me if I’m wrong, but you said Bush spent more on the levees they Clinton did. I’m glad you didn’t mention that Bush cut the New Orleans FEMA budget by 71 million dollars in June of this year or you would have sounded like an utter asshole trying to pass off some rightwing rhetoric. I mean, I like the way you hit P&P about not being like one of us intellectuals. Now I’m going to go take a piss and fetch another beer.
#24, mainly because fascism in all its forms needs to be called out, named for what it is and defeated, by word and by deed. Sometimes direct argument, sometimes humour, sometimes shaming, makes no difference to me.
I find it interesting that Ted Kennedy gets the most horrifying experience of his life, Chappaquiddick, thrown in his face constantly by wingnuts, but you never hear the left (most of it anyway) stooping to the same lowly depths in regard to Laura Bush’s “accident”…..? Guess we just have too much class for that kind of smear.
I have no problems throwing it up in their faces, interestingly enough they don’t seem to mind or care. A group that believes in the death penalty, war and torture doesn’t seem to have the morals to actually worry about Laura’s murder of her boyfriend. They have an immense capacity to accept killing and moral relativism as the norm – it’s really psychotic.
NeD, you are pointless. I have not attacked you. I have never been vicious to you. The worst “attack” you ever got from me was stupid troll. I say things such as ignorant, naive, etc. And, I mean it. I don’t say things that I don’t mean.
NeD, you seem to be on a mission of hatred. You call us filthy and rant about me having abortions. Can you seriously consider that meaningful? Aren’t you embarrassed when you go back and read that crap you wrote? Imagine a bunch of kids hanging out by the lockers and talking about sports. Then, some other kid walks up and starts yelling at them about how sports sucks.
I am unmoved by a stranger’s madness. He is obviously very angry and getting angrier by the day. We all know why NeD is angry.
He constantly posts about everybody thinking the way he does. Hey NeD, who are you trying to convince. Ahhhhh. See, NeD is obvious and easy. He only has a few pat answers and he just repeats them over again. He offers nothing and doesn’t post under threads that he can’t somehow spin to a right angle.
Again, I am unmoved and don’t think about him 5 seconds after I read/pass over his posts. But, regarding the abortion “dig.” I know you know what dig means, living in NYC.
Anyway, because you are so interested in me: I’ve never had an abortion. I am a progressive woman with progressive parents and was on birth control well before I was even sexually active (16). See, NeD, that is what loving parents do for their children. Sex was never demonized in my home, so it was a nonissue. I knew I could ask them anything and would get an honest answer. I never heard “because I said so.”
People like NED who grew up in dysfunctional and abusive families often develop psychosis that make them incapable of learning in a functional manner. They have real issues with anything that isn’t what they preconceive it to be, and they become increasing desperate to hold the tattered pieces together.
They’re very pathetic – even more so when they become dictators.
oy.
September 23rd, 2005 at 10:55 amvay!
September 23rd, 2005 at 11:28 amZOIKS!!!
September 23rd, 2005 at 11:43 amThis is all because the monkey in office decided the money Clinton alotted to shore up the levees needed to be spent paying back all of the scumbags that got him “elected.”
September 23rd, 2005 at 12:17 pmAmen PandP, Amen.
September 23rd, 2005 at 12:24 pmWho could believe that a once in a century event would occur twice within a month? I guess that W’s handlers are lucky at everything.
September 23rd, 2005 at 12:39 pmObviously they weren’t expecting another huge hurricane so soon. They though their shitty patch job would keep people quiet atleast until next hurricane season.
Will they just fix the levee and give the poor people of New Orleans a break?
September 23rd, 2005 at 1:12 pmP & P – you’re such a loser!! Bush spent more on the levee than Clinton ever did. Why don’t you blame porker Landrieu who used money for other reasons (um – like further corrupting LA politics which her family has been doing for years).
P & P – you’re probably the most offensive person in this blog. You think you are some of type intellectual. You found a safe haven in liberalism to justify all the abortions you probably had. You’re pathetic creature.
September 23rd, 2005 at 1:22 pmExcept the Bush administration with its childish optmism everybody knew that it is kind of stupid to have a whole city relying on leeves only build for a 30 year flood.
September 23rd, 2005 at 1:50 pmUM JOHN – those leveee were there since what, the 60s??!?!? Why blame Bush for that? The left’s unreasonable attacks on Bush are falling on tin ears. You want to bitch about something, bitch about how dumb it would be to rebuild there.
Ever hear of Pangea?
September 23rd, 2005 at 1:51 pmYes, it’s all Clinton’s fault. Keep on telling yourself that.
So what is Bushie doing to prevent it from happening again? Why of course, protecting Exxon/Mobil and Valero from being having to spend a little bit of THAT profit they are bilking from us the consumer! (”us” as in You too)
September 23rd, 2005 at 2:13 pmYou are getting pretty personal NeD. Don’t you think that comes off as desperate? Why do you hang out with me? Why do you want to be around me? It’s tantamount to a little puppy that follows you home. Puppies are cute, though.
If I offend you more than anyone than I am comfortable with that. It just doesn’t matter to me what you think. I find you abusive and totally out of control. I suppose you hate me because I represent a team that won’t have you. Sure, people hate what they fear or don’t understand.
I don’t consider myself an intellectual. I am an average thinking person. I see you getting very angry at me and it doesn’t affect me on a personal level, but I am offended by your lack of knowledge and constant repetition. You either don’t seem to know why you feel the way you do; or you just don’t know how to articulate it well.
You use the LOL a lot and that seems, well, kind of psychotic. I mean, no one in their sane mind sits around laughing while posting hate messages.
Why don’t you take a clue from Concerned Conservative? He engages in discussion and a sometimes heated back and forth. This is how we start to understand each other. Disagree as we may, it’s nice to read posts with smart delivery and well thought out ideas.
Yes NeD because I am pro choice, well, of course, I get pregnant just TO HAVE ABORTIONS. I mean, if I could get pregnant twice a month that would be 24 abortions a year. Maybe I can get into the Guiness Book that way. Birth control is cheap and abortions are expensive, but hell, it’s worth the money. That is what you think of women, right?
September 23rd, 2005 at 2:16 pmthe military is claiming the levee is NOT breached… that quote is right next to a PICTURE of a hole in the levee, streaming water. oh, and we’re winning in irq, too!
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/23/nola.levees/index.html
September 23rd, 2005 at 2:17 pmAnd the media is bias towards the left. Yadda, yadda
September 23rd, 2005 at 2:22 pm“The left’s unreasonable attacks on Bush are falling on tin ears.”
A better way to say that is the reasonable criticisms of the inept bush are falling on tinfoil hats…
September 23rd, 2005 at 2:37 pmWear it like a badge of honor, progressive & proud! He called you an “intellectual”, which is the worst slur a rightist can use.
I’d like to say something to everybody. I’m fairly new here, but I think I read a rule saying that people should be respectful of others. The remark by Northeast Dilemma in #8 above is malicious, stupid and offensive. Can’t we keep this guy out of here?
September 23rd, 2005 at 2:39 pm#17 – a Mass liberal calling me out?? Why don’t you focus your attention on your senators who’s careers are based on slandering others.
P & P has attacked me in the past. I was making a point. I think she got it. Mass liberal – run away now. Your near total irrelevance at this point.
September 23rd, 2005 at 2:42 pmIt doesn’t make your remarks any less offensive. Can’t remember Kerry or Kennedy slandering anybody. I do remember the Swift Boat Frauds, though. Slander as political technique. That’s okay, but for a liberal to speak up about, well, just about anything, is an outrage.
Your near total irrelevance at this point…….what?
September 23rd, 2005 at 2:58 pmKerry slandered his fellow troops in 1971. He also slandered the President as a liar when he also supported the war. Kennedy slandered Bork, Thomas and he tried with Roberts, but he couldn’t get away with it. The country is much more conservative now. AND Kennedy actually murdered woman – did you know that?
The Swifties did America a huge favor in outing Kerry as the Commie sympathizer he was.
September 23rd, 2005 at 3:20 pm#16, Mass liberal, don’t feel singled out – Ned is displaying classic use of point #11 from the fourteen points of fascism http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
If you watch long enough, he covers most of the fascist creed in a single day. His pal IRI usually tries for 5 or 6 points from the 14 points in a single post – he’s a real heavyweight fascist.
Everytime I read Ned’s posts, I start thinking about David Berkowitz – why is that?
September 23rd, 2005 at 3:45 pm“Kerry slandered his fellow troops in 1971. ”
I already correct this lie earlier – you forget the facts so easily – you are truly a propagandists dream or willing participant. Either way, you’re a pathetic idiot…
Slander involves making things up. Kerry was a ‘witness’ to confessions, and was testifying as a ‘heresay witness’. This is not the definition of slander – and what he said as testimony was in fact repeated by other witnesses. You should really pick a new lie to repeat – this one is debunked to everyone but the most diehard of lying retards (that would be you).
September 23rd, 2005 at 3:48 pm“The Swifties did America a huge favor in outing Kerry as the Commie sympathizer he was.”
When Kerry was ‘fighting the commies’, your fascist dictator was snorting coke and dodging his duty (just like he did last month when he was on vacation during a national disaster).
You are a lying treasonous israeli zionist – you are the traitor!
September 23rd, 2005 at 3:49 pmKerry told the truth in ‘71 and you know it. Why did soldiers come out and talk about atrocities if they didn’t commit them?
If you really want to make a point, you should stay away from the lying issue. Kerry voted for a measure that would allow Bush to go to war if he got UN buy-in. He didn’t of course. Kerry also wanted 9 of that 18 billion to be in the form of a loan. A reasonable stipulation that Bush was against. Looks pretty good now that the 9 billion is just plain gone.
Ted Kennedy never murdered anybody. Do you know anything about the case? Do you know that the young woman had no scratches on her face, despite the fact that the passenger window was smashed? The likely truth is that she was driving. You gotta have the facts, man.
Commie sympathizer? Are you living in 1952? My god. Give it up. You just admitted that they were full of it—-they only wanted to get back at Kerry for his perceived sins. There was no truth there.
Bush: coward, shirker, deserter, liar. All backed up by FACTS.
Kerry: 3 medals.
September 23rd, 2005 at 3:49 pmRyan & Terry,
Why do we respond to that fool?
September 23rd, 2005 at 3:51 pmMy old bud, NED. Hey, I liked that cheap crack at P&P you took in calling him/her a “loser” and a “pathetic creature” who has probably had an abortion. If so, maybe he/she was afraid it would grow up and look or sound like Rush Limbaugh, so we really can’t hold that against anyone, can we?
But correct me if I’m wrong, but you said Bush spent more on the levees they Clinton did. I’m glad you didn’t mention that Bush cut the New Orleans FEMA budget by 71 million dollars in June of this year or you would have sounded like an utter asshole trying to pass off some rightwing rhetoric. I mean, I like the way you hit P&P about not being like one of us intellectuals. Now I’m going to go take a piss and fetch another beer.
September 23rd, 2005 at 4:36 pm#24, mainly because fascism in all its forms needs to be called out, named for what it is and defeated, by word and by deed. Sometimes direct argument, sometimes humour, sometimes shaming, makes no difference to me.
September 23rd, 2005 at 5:12 pmYes, it’s the Albert Camus absurdist stance. You can’t rid the world of it, but you are still obligated to fight it, even if it doesn’t do any good.
September 23rd, 2005 at 5:28 pmI find it interesting that Ted Kennedy gets the most horrifying experience of his life, Chappaquiddick, thrown in his face constantly by wingnuts, but you never hear the left (most of it anyway) stooping to the same lowly depths in regard to Laura Bush’s “accident”…..? Guess we just have too much class for that kind of smear.
September 23rd, 2005 at 5:31 pmML,
Exactly – Camus was spot on. It’s our obligation to point out the absurdities and inconsistencies of the radicals and their agendas.
September 23rd, 2005 at 6:02 pmJay,
I have no problems throwing it up in their faces, interestingly enough they don’t seem to mind or care. A group that believes in the death penalty, war and torture doesn’t seem to have the morals to actually worry about Laura’s murder of her boyfriend. They have an immense capacity to accept killing and moral relativism as the norm – it’s really psychotic.
September 23rd, 2005 at 6:04 pmNeD, you are pointless. I have not attacked you. I have never been vicious to you. The worst “attack” you ever got from me was stupid troll. I say things such as ignorant, naive, etc. And, I mean it. I don’t say things that I don’t mean.
NeD, you seem to be on a mission of hatred. You call us filthy and rant about me having abortions. Can you seriously consider that meaningful? Aren’t you embarrassed when you go back and read that crap you wrote? Imagine a bunch of kids hanging out by the lockers and talking about sports. Then, some other kid walks up and starts yelling at them about how sports sucks.
I am unmoved by a stranger’s madness. He is obviously very angry and getting angrier by the day. We all know why NeD is angry.
He constantly posts about everybody thinking the way he does. Hey NeD, who are you trying to convince. Ahhhhh. See, NeD is obvious and easy. He only has a few pat answers and he just repeats them over again. He offers nothing and doesn’t post under threads that he can’t somehow spin to a right angle.
Again, I am unmoved and don’t think about him 5 seconds after I read/pass over his posts. But, regarding the abortion “dig.” I know you know what dig means, living in NYC.
Anyway, because you are so interested in me: I’ve never had an abortion. I am a progressive woman with progressive parents and was on birth control well before I was even sexually active (16). See, NeD, that is what loving parents do for their children. Sex was never demonized in my home, so it was a nonissue. I knew I could ask them anything and would get an honest answer. I never heard “because I said so.”
September 23rd, 2005 at 6:11 pmProgressive,
People like NED who grew up in dysfunctional and abusive families often develop psychosis that make them incapable of learning in a functional manner. They have real issues with anything that isn’t what they preconceive it to be, and they become increasing desperate to hold the tattered pieces together.
They’re very pathetic – even more so when they become dictators.
September 23rd, 2005 at 6:55 pm