Protest Turnout: A Picture’s Worth a Thousand Lies
Protest Turnout: A Picture’s Worth a Thousand Lies
Popular right-wing blogger Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs wrote a post on Saturday called “What If They Gave a Protest and Nobody Came?” It was picked up by various bloggers including Michelle Malkin, who called it “fair and balanced” coverage of the protest.
In the post, Johnson published the photo below as evidence of the “media’s tendency to exaggerate,” arguing that “it looks like the turnout was much less than 100,000 people.” Johnson noted later in the day that “Al-Reuters” had also used the 100,000 number, despite the fact that the picture below “refutes” that claim.
Note to Johnson and Malkin: Maybe the reason the photo didn’t show many marchers is because the photo wasn’t of the march. That actually went down 15th Street, as they could have seen from this map of the route:
To judge the size of a demonstration down 15th Street, it’s probably best to use a photo that actually includes 15th Street, like the shot below. (You’ll notice the throngs of marchers filling up the street for several blocks.)
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Nice picture of the free concert site.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:05 pmScares the bejesus outta ya, huh?
September 26th, 2005 at 2:07 pmThe republican mantra is the lie is worth a thousand truths.
They’re propagandists and fools one and all.
The fact is 300,000 came according to the folks on the ground. It’s been reported internationally, if not in the american corporate whore media.
The fact is 400 people (probably an exageration) came for the republican hate fest…
September 26th, 2005 at 2:08 pmI guess the 400 at the war pig Bushlovefestwas more like 40, since the media tends to exaggerate and all.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:09 pmI never exaggerate. Mine really is that big. In AOL inches, of course.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:11 pmThey could have made it worse had they cropped the photo more!!! Thanks for the truth!!
September 26th, 2005 at 2:14 pmI just wonder why we bother to set the record straight with these people. If they dont reallize how full of crap they are, then they are too delusional to ever be convinced. Do we really need to convince ourselves of that fact?
September 26th, 2005 at 2:17 pmFor an instant I almost felt a twinge of sympathy for the desperate right-wingers who are seeing their future and are scared spitless. But that twinge disappeared as quickly as it arose as I thought of the lies, the distortions, the prostitution of the news media, and the raping of the public trust that has been brought about by this corrupt, immoral, spiteful, self-righteous, petulant, rotten-to-the-core Republican party of today.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:19 pmThe march was HUGE and they just can’t stand it - so they post a photo that shows only part of the crowd and tell you it’s fact. Just like everything they say that is fact — it’s only half-fact.
Fact-free, half-fact - that’s all they can do when they are defenseless.
slowly the blindfold comes off…several of my repug friends are having to admit..bush is bad.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:21 pmCensored
News
Network…CNN
Anybody have a link to a picture of the Pro-War thingee the next day?
September 26th, 2005 at 2:26 pmSaturday protests never achieved anything. Mass civil disobedience and blocking traffic today… NOW we’re talking…
September 26th, 2005 at 2:27 pmA small number of protesters has an effectj, too.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:34 pmA prime example of the Repug Party procedures
September 26th, 2005 at 2:34 pm: always start vast undertakings with half-vast capabilities.
I wonder if Malkin came to the Pro-Bush-War thingee? She lives in Maryland I believe.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:34 pmLOVED the wide variety of “anti-war” messages!! Soooo clever to link love and admiration for Castro, Chavez and hapless Palestinians in with “we hate Bush” fest! Don’t they usually get 100,000 of the great un-washed to show up for these events??
September 26th, 2005 at 2:38 pmJust an idea, but everyone who went to the DC event should email Malkin with a “I was there” email.
malkin@comcast.net.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:43 pm#15 - Don’t they usually get 100,000 of the great un-washed to show up for these events??
You were there!? I’m sorry we missed you, coulda said Hey!
September 26th, 2005 at 2:46 pmMy local Fox affiliate in Dallas stated 100,000, and it was reported on in somber, serious tones. It was, however, in the last 10 minutes of the newscast.
The 100,000 figure has been commonoplace in Dallas MSM.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:47 pmAs long as there is chatter I don’t think it matters.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:50 pmProtests don’t affect change. They are the result of change.
Alot of people showed up for this. This was a big deal. I am ashamed I did not go.
mighty aphrodite,
So close minded. So blind.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:55 pmDuncan is a punk.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:58 pmA wingnut will believe anything except the truth. Even the DC cops admit there were over 150,000 marchers, and they always severely cut the numbers.
September 26th, 2005 at 2:58 pmRepublicanism itself is a lie, those who practice it are, therefor, liars. That’s their nature, that’s what they do.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:03 pm#15 - Don’t they usually get 100,000 of the great un-washed to show up for these events??
You were there!? I’m sorry we missed you, coulda said Hey!
Comment by Zookeeper — September 26, 2005 @ 2:46 pm
I was there. I spent the whole day in the porta johns… working. I made more money than Charles did, too.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:04 pmSoooo clever to link love and admiration for Castro, Chavez and hapless Palestinians in with “we hate Bush†fest!
It isn’t about being clever or doing what’s politically expedient, Afro. It’s about standing up for what’s right. Obviously that’s a foreign concept to wingnuts like you.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:08 pmThere will be photos of the prowar rally tonight at DCDL. Currently there are only photos from the antiwar march.
I think 400 is a fair estimate of the prowar folks (I went down yesterday to look), as long as you count all the observers, curious tourists, and antiwar protesters who were gathered around.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm#21 - Duncan is a punk.
Wow, there’s a stinging refutation for ya. When the facts don’t fit into your simple, narrow mind, resort to name calling.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:11 pmSo 150,000 lefties showed up in DC. Are you all trying to say that this means something other than the left likes to publicly protest?
It certainly does NOT indicate (statistically anyway) a shift in the pro-war vs. anti-war balance.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:11 pmDiebold rally tally just reported. Only 17,754 participated in the anti-war march. 17,989 were on-hand for the Pro-war rally Sunday.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:14 pmOne of the worst things about the sorry state of our political culture at the moment is that we don’t have many reasonable, principled people on the other side to argue with. I would really appreciate the opportunity for healthy dialogue with someone whose views differed from mine, but was at least a person of integrity and honest conviction.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:15 pmThe two towers on the ellipse held the PA system for the rally speakers. The free concert stage was on the Mall and much bigger. The crowd you see in this picture is attending the rally and lining up for the march. There were also many folks on the mall with signs and stickers and not necessarily in the march.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:16 pm“I would really appreciate the opportunity for healthy dialogue with someone whose views differed from mine, but was at least a person of integrity and honest conviction.”
Yeah, right.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:17 pmI should also add that that big open space at the bottom where the grass is dead was fenced off. We were walking across it and the cops told us to get out. So plenty more people would be seen below the edge of the photo.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:18 pmYou’re right, Concerned Conservative, the majority of the American public still thinks the war was a mistake, and that the President is doing a lousy job.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:18 pmGY,
I try to bring that to the folks on this site. Some engage genuinely, some just attack. Would be happy to discuss issues with you.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:18 pmMark,
I think that a majority NOW think it was a mistake — but that was not the case at first.
And he is doing a lousy job at the moment.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:20 pmIn regards to #21, don’t forget that Jackie is a punk, Judy is a runt. I believe they both went down to Berlin, joined the Ice Capades. Oh, I don’t know why.
Could the trolls be more pathetic here?
September 26th, 2005 at 3:22 pmSo 150,000 lefties showed up in DC. Are you all trying to say that this means something other than the left likes to publicly protest?
No, we’re saying that this number came out, it will be larger next time, and represents the 55% to 65% that oppose the Iraq debacle NOW.
The numbers will only get worse for you.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:23 pmSo 150,000 lefties showed up in DC. Are you all trying to say that this means something other than the left likes to publicly protest?
No, it means that conservatives are liars. Read the post again.
It certainly does NOT indicate (statistically anyway) a shift in the pro-war vs. anti-war balance.
The polls show that just fine.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:23 pmI think it’s hilarious that the right isn’t all pissy at their event being called a “pro-war march” — like they think there’s nothing wrong with being FOR war.
Truly perverse.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:23 pmDuncan is a punk.
True that. The boy trolls his own comment threads. Weak!
September 26th, 2005 at 3:24 pmWe’ll see Nemesis. That is what elections are for. The rest is just noise.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:24 pmWhat’s really humorous is that lefty sites that actually try to keep their ducks in a row are considered by the SCLM to be less “trustworthy” than the blatant and deliberate liars of the right-wing half of the blogosphere.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:26 pm#40 — again, so what? Both sides lie. The left was claiming 300,000. Who cares? Just a bunch of hot air.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:27 pmThe anti-war movement has flatlined. These current anti-war events aren’t growing and haven’t been drawing much more than 100,000.
http://awol.objector.org/ recentnewsandevents/ oct26.html
September 26th, 2005 at 3:29 pmI think that a majority NOW think [the Iraq war] was a mistake — but that was not the case at first.
Actually, it was. That’s why the right wingers had to try to bully the opposition into silence by all of that “you’re either with us or you’re a traitor” crap.
And [Bush] is doing a lousy job at the moment.
Okay, I’ll bite. Are you implying that there was any time when he wasn’t doing a lousy job?
Would that be when he took us from a surplus to the biggest deficits in history in order to enrich his rich friends?
Maybe when, either deliberately or through sheer incompetence, he allowed a handful of “terrists” to kill three thousand Americans? Or after that, when he used that attack as an excuse to illegally invade and occupy a foreign nation, slaughtering around a hundred thousand people and getting nearly two thousand of our own troops killed?
Tell us. Enquiring minds would like to know.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:30 pmWe’ll see Nemesis. That is what elections are for. The rest is just noise.
So-called elections are just noise, unless all those who are legally eligible are allowed to vote and those votes are honestly counted. Neither of these are the case when the Republicans are in charge.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:32 pmYou mean that’s what election FRAUD is for. There hasn’t been an honest election in this country for years.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:33 pmGlobal, a reasonable, principled person could not advocate for what the right now gets away with. Seriously, how can you logically argue for a war that is a complete failure by any measure, for a Social Security plan that contradicts itself and misstates what the CBO says, for a Medicare bill that subsidizes the pharmaceutical industry at the expense of old people and others, and for tax cuts that benefit the rich almost entirely but are said to help the middle class and are enacted IN A TIME OF WAR.
There’s just no rational way to defend these things. Up is not down.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:36 pmWe’ll see Nemesis. That is what elections are for. The rest is just noise.
Comment by Concerned Conservative — September 26, 2005 @ 3:24 pm
Well, that’s what they were for, before the advent of Magic Vote Counting Machines. Too bad the Republicans can only stay in power by manipulating election results.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:38 pmSeeing as the “pro-war” rally had about 500 attendees, the wingnuts ought to be hanging their heads in shame.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:41 pm[…] Contre-attaque du blog de gauche, Think Progress : “apprenez à prendre des photos !”. Et hop, un plan large pour bien signifier l’ampleur de la manifestation. Tellement de démogagies, tellement de mensonges. Un exemple de plus de la lourde frontière qui sépare maintenant les deux Amériques, conservateurs contre libéraux : >> Protest Turnout: A Picture’s Worth a Thousand Lies […]
September 26th, 2005 at 3:42 pmPeople that support the war are not going to some protest - we have lives. Unlike you lowlives who never get enough of sympathizing with terrorists.
Cindy Sheehan is proving to be every bit as dumb as conservatives thought. We will use her to paint Democrats as dimbulb American haters. Thanks for your help.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:42 pmAmerican is the only nation in the world that prohibits ex-cons from voting. This disenfranchises 5 million people from voting that have served their debt to society. The nation was founded on no taxation without representation, yet these 5 million people are required to pay taxes and cannot vote. If they haven’t paid their debt to society, why are they released? If they are good enough to work and pay taxes, why can’t they vote? And why is it that an ex-con in Iran is given the right to vote, or actual ‘civilized nations’ and not the US?
Because republicans are fearful that those who were snared by their draconian lopsided drug laws which strip black men of the right to vote, yet do nothing to the powerful white men who buy the drugs might force those people to vote against them. And they’re probably right. Just another example of right wing vote rigging…
September 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pmTypical of Johnson, a non-stop huckster for the Bushies. He’s got a new venture called “Pajamas Media” with which he hopes to screw BlogAds out of the business they started, so he has to feed his peanut gallery of wingnuts an endless supply of liberal bashing guff. His blog regularly hosts madmen who bray for “nuking mecca” and delight in making vile racist comments and calling for violence against “leftists” and “hippies”.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:44 pmPeople that support the war are not going to some protest - we have lives.
Ha ha! Of COURSE you do, Neddy. That’s why you spend so many of your waking hours posting at a site where nobody has ever shown any sign of taking you seriously.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:45 pm#57 - yes, Gary. I will mock you here in this anti-American blog. I would never travel to DC to spit in your face. Just here in this site.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:47 pmRepublicans are too lazy to even go to a protest. They excuse this laziness with all sorts of excuse, but the truth is they don’t have either the popularity or dedication that their lying and delusional propagandists claim.
They’re truly the most inept movement in american history! They only way they can get votes, is the same as how they get love - by buying it in a back alley!
And as they fund terrorists, and sell WMDs to dictators, they lie to themselves and the world and claim that they’re americans… They’re just lazy and stupid thugs who think way to highly of themselves and their criminal acts. How sad and pathetic they are. Only 400 people showed up - Bahahahahaha!!!!!
Bahahahah!!!
Bahahahaha!!!!
September 26th, 2005 at 3:51 pmDon’t feed the trolls.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:52 pmTalk to CC, but NeD is a troll.
#57 - yes, Gary. I will mock you here in this anti-American blog.
Oh, and you’re doing a wonderful job of that, Neddy. I mean, every time I see your byline in one of these comments, “mock” is one of the first words that come to mind.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:54 pmDon’t feed the trolls.
Talk to CC, but NeD is a troll.
Sorry, I’ll stop now.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:54 pmRyan - we don’t need to PROTEST. We have it all, buddy. You guys, in your hapless effort to re-create 1968 have embraced idiots like Jessica Lange and Cindy to make the anti-war point. Ryan - newsflash - peopel aren’t listening to you.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:54 pmBahahaha
The rightwingers could barely must 400 people NATIONWIDE who agreed with them!
Bahahaha
What losers!
September 26th, 2005 at 3:56 pmWe stood on the corner of 15th and Constitution for an hour trying to ease ourselves in. People were amassing from both the east and west on Constitution and from the south from the mall on 15th. As far as I could see ahead of me was a sea of people. I wouldn’t have any idea as to how to determine the size of a crowd, but the largest event that I’ve ever been to was a 50,000 crowd at a Pink Floyd concert and this was many times over that.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:58 pmThe counter-protesters appeared to be about 150, but MSNBC claimed ‘hundreds’ as opposed to the ‘thousands’ of anti-war marchers. They were lying and they know it.
The only way to deal with a troll is to repeat the thread over and over again. They try to limbaugh the thread by starting an irrelevant side conversation. Always end your comment by restating the thread. It drives them nuts, and it keeps the entire blog on track!
I’m finding it deliciously satisfying.
So in conclusion:
A protest for democracy hoping to bring together 100,000 people in DC instead brought together 300,000!!!!
A reichwing protest against democracy could only muster 400 people!
These guys are sad and pathetic losers who have NO mainstream support in america. They’ve lost the hearts and minds of america, and the only way they can win elections is by stealing them! But criminal thugs always win elections - it’s why they’re always dictators!
September 26th, 2005 at 3:59 pmOne question
Do you believe the people we are fighting in Iraq are evil?
September 26th, 2005 at 3:59 pmGary and others,
Please provide proof of voting fraud by repubs — just repeating outrageous claims does not make them true.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:01 pmRyan Neat - we muster people at the polls, not pathetic anti-American rallies designed to comfort the enemy.
AND if you believe we steal elections, then you shouldn’t get your hopes up come 2006.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:02 pmI think it is now safe to say that the Republicans ARE the “false prophets” that the book of Revelations speaks about.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:02 pmDarleen, yes I do think the terrorists are evil.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:02 pm#68 - CC - common sense means nothing to these people. They’ve just been in denial for about five years now.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:03 pmNeD,
What I can’t believe is that these people actually think the majority of Americans identify with them. The narcissism of the 60’s lives on!
September 26th, 2005 at 4:05 pmSteambomb - no, that was the Democrats. Of course, they were discovered when a democratic city went under water and their loser leaders did nothing about it except blame the feds. Dems are pigs.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:05 pmA reichwing protest
Good lord. Unfamiliar with Godwin’s Law, eh, Ryan.
putz
September 26th, 2005 at 4:05 pmUh oh. The Right Wing caught out on another little lie!
September 26th, 2005 at 4:05 pmAMAZING!
Michele writes that she “spent the afternoon at Sheehanapalooza in D.C. under overcast skies, in a haze of hemp-scented paranoia”.
She’s a stoner. Cool.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:05 pm#73 - I know. But, of course, we’re the ones who are delusional. These people lost every power base in Washington in less than ten years, but it is Republicans who are delusional.
Here’s a hint on Bush’s polls - alot of us are upset with him for not being conservative enough on spending and judges. We’ll still vote for him over you terrorist sympos any day.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:07 pmPlease provide proof of voting fraud by repubs — just repeating outrageous claims does not make them true.
Here is a good summary site.
For more specifics look here, or get this book. Also try here.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:08 pmAh, “Darleen”, an “LGF Regular” is here to change the subject. OK, Darleen, I’ll bite. You simplistically ask:
“Do you believe the people we are fighting in Iraq are evil”.
Evil is as evil does, Darleen. So yes, many of them are evil. Some of them are just pissed off we are there. Some of them could ask you this question: “do you believe the Americans who killed my cousin/daughter/father (etc) in “co-lateral” damage are “evil”?
Here’s a question for you: Do you believe it’s “evil” to wage war on a country that is no (credible) threat to your own country? Realizing that thousands of civilians of that country (and thousands of your own troops) are going to get killed?
Is that “evil”?
I think so.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:09 pmSorry, missed out a quote mark in #79. here is the summary site.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:09 pm#29 –
So, what would indicate a shift in the balance? Maybe a poll showing 63% favor a partial or complete immediate pullout from Iraq? Would that do it?
September 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pmSo 150,000 lefties showed up in DC. Are you all trying to say that this means something other than the left likes to publicly protest?
It certainly does NOT indicate (statistically anyway) a shift in the pro-war vs. anti-war balance.
Comment by Concerned Conservative — September 26, 2005
Leave it to a “concerned conservative” to try and marginalize 300,000 regular folks who are sick of the BS.
REAL moderates and conservatives reject extremism. You’re the minority.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:13 pmBy the way, Darleen, have you breathlessly emailed Charles Johnson yet to tell him he’s been busted here? Have you emailed other “lizard minions”? (I’m not making this up, folks).
Why don’t you scurry back to LGF and spare us your right-wing tripe.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:13 pmTo CC:
People supported the war because they believed the lies and distortions they were told.
It is a settled fact that the Bush administration said things that were provably untrue in order to gin up support for the war and stomped on any internal voices that suggested otherwise. It is also true that the Bush White House deliberately tied Saddam Hussein to Osama bin Laden when no such tie existed and the two men were in fact hostile.
To this day, most Fox News viewers believe the Saddam-Osama connection. (Pew Center study)
The fact that the war then occured does not validate the phony reasons used to get us into it.
Most folks do not support the war now because they have begun to understand the deceptions that were used against them.
The cynical argument that all governments lie is hardly the justification for the first US invasion of a non-aggressor in our history.
Bush is hardly doing a bad job “now”. He has been doing an atrocious job from day one. The ranks of government have been filled with partisan hacks. We have a deficit spiraling out of any control. We have the greatest gap between rich and poor in the last century. And on and on.
Our President has been out of touch. From the seven minute “My Pet Goat” incident to the three days it took to get him out of Crawford after Katrina, this administration has been redefining what an administration does and how it acts.
History will judge George W. Bush to have been one of the worst Presidents of all time.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:14 pmWe already posted the proof of the elections.
There’s the New Hampshire republican who was indicted.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/120304D.shtml
Then the two republicans were indicted last month in ohio for their part in the 2004 election fraud - or didn’t you hear that on faux news?
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001780.htm
And then there’s the Conyers report itself.
http://www.house.gov/ judiciary_democrats/ ohiostatusrept1505.pdf
And finally there are the voting fraud numbers themselves which involve a deepthroat from diebold who came forward last week to tell about the fraudulent machines.
http://bradblog.com
And finally the voting results from 2004. The 10 states that had older machines showed consistent tallies compared to exit polls. The other 40 states showed as much as a 14% difference (always in the direction of bush) between the exit polls and the final tallies. This is a statistical VIRTUAL IMPOSSIBILITY, and anything above 3% is called GUARANTEED FRAUD by our own pentagon when assessing foreign elections.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/2004votefraud_review.html
The Corporate media has protected this fraud, and the few press people who’ve spoken out (one CNN reporter did the day after the election) were severely shut down by the corporate masters…
September 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pmThis story in Stars & Stripes gives the crowd estimate at 250,000.
http://www.estripes.com/ article.asp?section=104&article=31802
September 26th, 2005 at 4:17 pmGary - like I said, if the GOP is really stealing elections, you wouldn’t be so giddy over these polls. You’re a liar.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:17 pmReichwingers always try to excuse the repeated failures, but here we are again.
There were 300,000 protestors who showed that america feels bush is a traitor.
There were only 400 people dedicated enough to defend this treasonous dictator!
Do the math - the fact is the minority opinion sits in the whitehouse. Without Diebold, this administration and most of those sitting in congress would be bug exterminators and fry cooks - that’s clearly all they’re qualified for!
September 26th, 2005 at 4:18 pmThe polls show that the majority of americans disagree with the GOP on every topic.
The size of the demostrations show that republicans are out of touch with american values.
The size of the demonstrations show that republicans clearly have no broad base of support and therefore enforces the FACT that they’ve stolen the last several elections!
September 26th, 2005 at 4:20 pmIf John F. Kennedy, Jr. were alive, he’d be President today and we wouldn’t have to be putting up with this baloney.
JFK, Jr. would have had my vote. His death by plane crash is a suspected assassination.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:21 pmGary - like I said, if the GOP is really stealing elections, you wouldn’t be so giddy over these polls.
Please cite any instance in which I’ve been giddy over polls. Any instance will do. Yes, I’ll wait.
You’re a liar.
Projecting.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:22 pmI wanted to leave a comment at LGF, but they have “non-registered” comments disabled. Cowards.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:24 pm[…] Protest Turnout: A Picture’s Worth a Thousand Lies. Right wing blogger attempt to blog about alledged media distortion resulting in their own media distortion. This wingnuts need to think of one import concept at the center of lying: you only lie about shit where they don’t have cameras. […]
September 26th, 2005 at 4:25 pmThe righties are sweating bullets. If they don’t claim, “It was way less than 100,000″, we’re hearing, “There wasn’t a united message”.
Lame
I wonder if the vets and soccer moms I saw protesting knew they were unhinged members of the “looney left”, since that’s supposedly what the makeup was. I’m glad I got to be a part of all of it.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:26 pmMonica,
The problem with your statement #83, is that the right wingnuts didn’t show-up on Sunday to show support. I guess they had church or something. Which makes your comment entirely irrelevent.
Your team is toast.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:26 pmJFK, Jr. would have had my vote. His death by plane crash is a suspected assassination.
Comment by Ron
Uh, No, Ron. Are you a wing-nut planting goofy posts here? OK, maybe you just “heard that somewhere”.
JFK Jr. lost control of his aircraft due to spatial disorientation, a VFR pilot flying into IMC conditions, an accident understood instantly by everyone in the aviation community. Please don’t spread silly rumors around. Thank you.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:27 pmThey are still debating the size of the crowd that heard Martin Luther King’s “I Have a Dream” speech in 1963.
It was widely reported at the time to be between 200,000 and 250,000 with less than 50,000 whites in attendance.
The number of whites was probably closer to 100,000 and over 400,000 in total.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:27 pmGary, those are pretty weak references on GOP stealing elections. Most of the arguments seem to hinge on the fact that exit polls had Kerry winning, ergo Bush must have stolen the election. Exit polls are not as accurate as you’d like to think they are.
Northern Light, “the ranks of government have been filled with partisan hacks” — oh, unlike the Clinton administration. And BTW, there is a documented link between Iraq and Al Qaeda.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:28 pmNote to wingnuts:
any anti-war proteters you DIDN’T see were perhaps standing next to those Iraqi WMD we were told were the reason for the war
September 26th, 2005 at 4:28 pmNED,
Again NED, you are simply being a cheerleader. You speak as if it were you who were running for office. It comes off as pathetic and “proud” how you tout the republican party or conservative America as if you actually have something to do with who they are or what they do, or how they got where they are.
You don’t matter to them NED, you don’t even count as 1 vote. They would gladly dress you in camouflage, strap a pack on you and drop you into a pit of vipers. In fact, they would wave the flag as you were fighting to stay alive, cheering “GO NED GO!” even though they knew you were going to die from the get go.
Open your mind NED. Look at issues with a beginners mind. Look at issues from multiple points of view. Otherwise you’re just another cow in the heard. But then, Jesus was a Shepard, so I guess his followers… oh, you finish it for yourself.
“Only those who slavishly worship success can think that effectiveness is admirable, without regard to what is affected.†-Bertrand Russell
September 26th, 2005 at 4:30 pmBy the way, an excellent watchdog on the insane ravings of Charles Johnson and his racist “lizards” is:
http://www.lgfwatch.blogspot.com
worth a bookmark.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:30 pmFunny Mark, it IS usually Leftists who believe any discussion of morality is nothing but “rightwing” tripe.
Explains a lot about the “protesters” with their “castrate Cheney” “Free Palestine” “9/11: inside job” signs…
Even a couple of diarists at dKos finally got nervous about the veil dropping from the pro-terrorist agenda of ANSWER, et al.
I read a lot of sites and post mostly on my own.
If you cannot morally judge as evil the “insurgency” that targets Iraqi civilians, that beheads civilian captives, that sends suicide bombers into market places or discos…sir, you are a moral imbecile.
And that is the point of this thread..not that the dowdification of Charles’ post (”The only crowd shot I’ve seen so far is at Yahoo, where it looks like the turnout was much less than 100,000 people.” wow, sounds so DEFINITIVE and so LYING, doesn’t it?) proves a “rightwing agenda” but is a sad matter of showcasing the moral depravity of those aggitating for a US military defeat in Iraq and widespread anti-Semitism.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:30 pmWeak references?
Bahahah, what morons republicans are…
So lets reiterate.
The republicans stole the elections.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:34 pmThe republicans suck in the polls because they don’t represent america.
The democrats and anti-war movement mustered 300,000 in DC alone, and 10s of thousands of protestors elsewhere.
The republicans could only muster 400 protestors, because the core of republican losers is quite small, and only represents a fringe insane group of idiots (that would be the trolls here)…
don’t know if anyone mentioned this because i couldn’t read all the comments but this picture had to be taken at the close of the actual march because there were very few people at the concert cite till well after 4 when the march was coming to a close.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:34 pm“So-called elections are just noise, unless all those who are legally eligible are allowed to vote and those votes are honestly counted. Neither of these are the case when the Republicans are in charge.
Comment by Gary Kleppe — September 26, 2005 @ 3:32 pm”
Get those eligible non-felons to the polls and pre-teach them HOW TO VOTE(!)and WHO TO VOTE FOR(!) - that is your duty as a good lefty!!!
September 26th, 2005 at 4:35 pm#80 - Clever line - “Evil is a evil does” Forrest Gump?
September 26th, 2005 at 4:37 pmRyan, re. the weak references comment — I am looking for FACTS, not speculation on election fraud.
Mighty A, they’d rather moan and whine than educate the base.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:38 pmThe republicans stole the elections
Please link showing the convictions. Otherwise, urban legend
The republicans suck in the polls because they don’t represent america.
Link please. And they must respresent SOME Americans because, heck, they are ELECTED
The democrats and anti-war movement mustered 300,000 in DC alone, and 10s of thousands of protestors elsewhere.
Oh, ya mean like the 1000 in San Diego that started fighting amongst each other?
Do you have a vocabulary that exists beyond calling people you don’t agree with “losers” and “nazis”? Your vapidity is breathtaking.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:40 pmThe ZionistHermaphrodite is once again doing her psychotic bit. People who commit crimes pay their debt to society (something he/she clearly has no intention to do). When they are freed, in every civilized country they return to being citizens and thereby have a right to vote. If they can be released into society, why aren’t the allowed to vote? This kind of black/white naive view of the world, is why this psychotic idiot was ‘LAUGHING’ at the prospect of palestinians blowing up. Republicans are truly insane - especially this HE/SHE.
Now back to the story.
So lets reiterate.
The republicans stole the elections.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:40 pmThe republicans suck in the polls because they don’t represent america.
The democrats and anti-war movement mustered 300,000 in DC alone, and 10s of thousands of protestors elsewhere.
The republicans could only muster 400 protestors, because the core of republican losers is quite small, and only represents a fringe insane group of idiots (that would be the trolls here)…
Gary, those are pretty weak references on GOP stealing elections. Most of the arguments seem to hinge on the fact that exit polls had Kerry winning, ergo Bush must have stolen the election. Exit polls are not as accurate as you’d like to think they are.
Northern Light, “the ranks of government have been filled with partisan hacks†— oh, unlike the Clinton administration. And BTW, there is a documented link between Iraq and Al Qaeda.
Comment by Concerned Conservative
This ass clown just left the reality based community for good. I don’t think he ever really left the faith based community, he just pretended.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pmThe incompetent and corrupt blind right wing-nuts are really, really scared of their own shadows. The left will blow them out of any power very soon because Americans see they can’t ever be trusted again. Repugs. are nothing but war loving chicken-shits, total liars, bigots and haters of our freedoms.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:43 pmMightyHermaphrodite would prefer to vote for a draft dodger who illegally kills 100,000 innocent civilians over oil and israeli zionism, than an honest man who fought for his country. Republicans don’t mind voting for criminals, as long as it’s THEIR criminals, and yet they would deny votes to others they don’t agree with. They’re truly psychotic fools!
Now back to the story.
So lets reiterate.
The republicans stole the elections.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:43 pmThe republicans suck in the polls because they don’t represent america.
The democrats and anti-war movement mustered 300,000 in DC alone, and 10s of thousands of protestors elsewhere.
The republicans could only muster 400 protestors, because the core of republican losers is quite small, and only represents a fringe insane group of idiots (that would be the trolls here)…
I was surprised to learn that 68% of America is composed of fringe, out-of-the-mainstream extremist Bush haters.
Why does America hate America?
September 26th, 2005 at 4:44 pm“Ryan, re. the weak references comment — I am looking for FACTS, not speculation on election fraud.
Mighty A, they’d rather moan and whine than educate the base.
Comment by Concerned Conservative”
You’re lying, you’re looking for a reason to discount facts - that’s why you’re an idiot…
Go check my links… Or did you miss those.
So lets reiterate.
The republicans stole the elections.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:45 pmThe republicans suck in the polls because they don’t represent america.
The democrats and anti-war movement mustered 300,000 in DC alone, and 10s of thousands of protestors elsewhere.
The republicans could only muster 400 protestors, because the core of republican losers is quite small, and only represents a fringe insane group of idiots (that would be the trolls here)…
and you know, if the grassroots pro-victory individuals had the financial backing that George Soros and Teresa Heinz (she’ll tag the ‘Kerry’ back on her name next time “did you know I served in Vietnam” decides to run again) gave to help fund the fulltime Church of the Perpetually Aggitated ministry, there might have been more.
But you know, doing something in the macro to feel good about oneself is a usual Hollywood Lib schtick. Most non-Leftists have been busy raising funds and volunteering their time to helping hurricane victims.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:45 pmFunny how those things happen, plane crashes and such. I no longer trust the US government. I wish I could, but I don’t.
“Paul Wellstone was the only progressive in the U.S. Senate. Mother Jones magazine once described him as, “The first 1960s radical elected to the U.S. senate.” He was also the last. Since defeating incumbent Republican Rudy Boschowitz 12 years ago in a grassroots upset, Wellstone emerged as the strongest, most persistent, most articulate and most vocal Senate opponent of the Bush administration.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:48 pmIn a senate that is one heartbeat away from Republican control, Wellstone was more than just another Democrat. He was often the lone voice standing firm against the status-quo policies of both the Democrats and the Republicans. As such, he earned the special ire of the Bush administration and the Republican Party, who made Wellstone’s defeat that party’s number one priority this year.
Various White House figures made numerous recent campaign stops in Minnesota to stump for the ailing campaign of Wellstone’s Republican opponent, Norm Coleman. Despite being outspent and outgunned, however, polls show that Wellstone’s popularity surged after he voted to oppose the Senate resolution authorizing George Bush to wage war in Iraq. He was pulling ahead of Coleman and moving toward a victory that would both be an embarrassment to the Bush administration and to Democratic Quislings such as Hillary Clinton who voted to support “the president.”
Then he died.
Wellstone now joins the ranks of other American politicians who died in small plane crashes. Another recent victim was Missouri’s former Democratic governor, Mel Carnahan, who lost his life in 2000, three weeks before Election Day, during his Senatorial race against John Ashcroft. Carnahan went on to become the first dead man to win a Senatorial race, humiliating and defeating the unpopular Ashcroft posthumously. Ashcroft, despite his unpopularity, went on to be appointed Attorney General by George W. Bush. Investigators determined that Carnahan’s plane went down due to “poor visibility.”
Carnahan was the second Missouri politician to die in a small plane crash. The first was Democratic Representative Jerry Litton, whose plane crashed the night he won the Democratic nomination for senate in 1976. His Republican opponent ultimately captured the seat from his successor in November.
While an article in the New York Times on Saturday pointed out the danger politicians face due to their heavy air travel schedules, the death of a senator or member of Congress is still relatively rare, with only one other sitting U.S. Senator, liberal Republican John Heinz, dying in a plane crash since World War II. Heinz, who entered office as an outspoken opponent of the Vietnam War, later emerged as a strong proponent of health care, social services, public transportation and the environment. He also urged reconciliation with Cuba. He died when the landing gear on his small plane failed to function, and a helicopter dispatched to survey the problem crashed into his plane.
One former senator, John Tower, also died in a small plane crash. Tower was best known as the chair of the Tower Commission, which investigated the Reagan/Bush era Iran/Contra scandal.”
Ryan,
If most of America is so disgusted with Bush and the Republican party, why is democratic fund raising lagging so far behind? You would think that if there was the outrage you and many of your kind claim, the democratic coffers would be overflowing.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:49 pmRyan
Your problem with felon voting is a state issue. I don’t give a flying fig what “the world” does. Our government is organized under the US Constitution.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:50 pmCan Today Possibly be Normal?
Lotsa links to lotsa blogs. We are based in Arkansas and try to scout for localized links. But you’ll find things from everywhere here.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:52 pmSo 150,000 lefties showed up in DC. Are you all trying to say that this means something other than the left likes to publicly protest?
It certainly does NOT indicate (statistically anyway) a shift in the pro-war vs. anti-war balance.
Comment by Concerned Conservative — September 26, 2005 @ 3:11 pm
What it does say, loud and clear, is that the “lefties” were correct while you just remain wrong from start to finish. You consistently ignorant piece of sub-human detritus.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:52 pmOnly 300,000?!… The US Population is over 35 million people …that’s not even one percent of the total population!!! Sorry to tell you that the majority of Americans don’t believe in your cause.
Liberalism is a mental disorder….and is the cancer killing America. If you don’t like it here move somewhere else.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:53 pmDarleen, do you believe these protests harm our troops? Do you conversely believe that a pro-war protest would help our troops (by discouraging our enemies and raising our morale)? If so, then why weren’t there more war boosters out there? I’ll tell you why. Because most are ashamed to admit they ever supported the war in Iraq. Except anonymously on the Internet.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:55 pmI don’t give a flying fig what “the world†does.
So you’re an isolationist? If you don’t care, why send troops there?
September 26th, 2005 at 4:56 pm“Only 300,000?!… The US Population is over 35 million people …that’s not even one percent of the total population!!! Sorry to tell you that the majority of Americans don’t believe in your cause.”
And what percentage is 400 people? Clearly more people believe in liberalism than conservatism.
“Liberalism is a mental disorder….and is the cancer killing America. If you don’t like it here move somewhere else.”
You’ve been listening to the mentally ill Savage - there’s no clinical evidence that liberalism is a mental illness, however zealot and religious fanaticism is a CLINICAL symptom of many mental disorders. Clearly your delusion prevents you from living in reality with the rest of us - please consult a REAL doctor, and not the gas attendant who listens to savage as you clearly have…
As for the bogus claims about democratic fundraising or any other nonsense, blah blah blah, nonsensical republic smear and propaganda, lah, lah, lah, you’re a bunch of stupid fascist losers who can’t even organize a simple protest. LOSERS!!!!
So lets reiterate.
The republicans stole the elections.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:58 pmThe republicans suck in the polls because they don’t represent america.
The democrats and anti-war movement mustered 300,000 in DC alone, and 10s of thousands of protestors elsewhere.
The republicans could only muster 400 protestors, because the core of republican losers is quite small, and only represents a fringe insane group of idiots (that would be the trolls here)…
Only 300,000?!… The US Population is over 35 million people …that’s not even one percent of the total population!!!
Um…that’s over TWICE the number of troops in Iraq.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:59 pm“Ryan
Your problem with felon voting is a state issue. I don’t give a flying fig what “the world†does. Our government is organized under the US Constitution”
And yet this voting right is not PROTECTED at the federal level - and why? Because republicans don’t want it to be, in the same way the prevented veterans of the civil war from voting and other techniques that turned the south into a bastion of even more crazies than there were before the war!
So lets reiterate.
The republicans stole the elections.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:00 pmThe republicans suck in the polls because they don’t represent america.
The democrats and anti-war movement mustered 300,000 in DC alone, and 10s of thousands of protestors elsewhere.
The republicans could only muster 400 protestors, because the core of republican losers is quite small, and only represents a fringe insane group of idiots (that would be the trolls here)…
Ryan,
Are you an excon? I don’t think you are going to have a whole lot of public support for allowing cons the vote. What they did to deny themselves the vote was a personal choice. Since, you feel that the majority of these ex-cons would vote democratic (probably true) you feel that you are being treated unfairly. Maybe you should move to one of those countries that does allow ex-cons to vote, you might be happier.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:00 pmWow, trolls are really worried today.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:02 pmNew ones too.
I guess a nerve got touched somewhere.
#123 cynical
I’m not anonymous. And lots of non-Leftist bloggers actually DO support the troops where it counts..
We support them directly..you know, on the micro, with letters, packages, collecting money for their families.
AND exposing those, like George Galloway, who are openly supporting the people who want to see them dead.
The DC anti-American/anti-Semite march was about facetime. It was about the marchers feeling “good” about themselves. It was akin to the celebrity that is an ass in their personal life but thinks by showing up once a year to laddle out soup at Thanksgiving at a homeless shelter makes it all better.
and when the cameras stop rolling and everyone goes home, it will be the same unsung little people back to laddling the soup.
But who is really doing the most good?
September 26th, 2005 at 5:03 pmI don’t know if Ryan is a ex-con, but it looks like he’s a spammer.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:04 pmFrom that yahoo link with the picture, look at what Al-Reuters has to say:
Technically correct, but, apparently not misleading enought for wing-nuts.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:05 pmRyan
Jaysus on a Pony — your argument is with the CONSITUTION but you keep making the felon vote about republicans.
You’re only 14, right?
September 26th, 2005 at 5:06 pmWhenever I read crude reference to those insensitively bashing he/she’s with sexual deformities (ie: Hermaphrodite) I figure Silent Susan or “that other one” must have deep psycho/sexual problems. Pitiful!
September 26th, 2005 at 5:06 pmLib #126…Um…what the hell is that suppose to mean?…sounds like another lib dodging yet another fact. Please enlighten me with more of your intellectual stupidity!
I’ll be waiting…
September 26th, 2005 at 5:08 pm“Are you an excon? ”
No.
“I don’t think you are going to have a whole lot of public support for allowing cons the vote. ”
Who said anything about allowing cons to vote - that’s your proposal, not mine. An ex-con has ’supposedly’ paid their debt to society. They still get taxed and work - and the taxation without representation issue is a foundation of our democracy. My question is simple, why are ex-cons good enough to pay taxes, and not good enough to vote if we believe in no taxation without representation? It’s a simple inquiry.
“What they did to deny themselves the vote was a personal choice. ”
True, but they supposedly went to prison and paid their price - or are you saying that their prison is permanent and they are no longer citizens? And many of these ‘choices’ were minor drug offenses, but because of the racist and classist drug laws unfairly strip poor people while not stripping rich LOOTERS of their rights to participate in government. If ex-cons can’t vote, should they be allowed to participate in PACs and/or election funds? Wealthy people can BUY votes if they’re Ex-cons, poor people can’t…
“Since, you feel that the majority of these ex-cons would vote democratic (probably true) you feel that you are being treated unfairly. ”
Actually, I think our response to them is inconsistent and frankly is undemocratic. Being undemocratic to any citizens should make you feel like YOU were being treated unfairly - clearly you lack any empathy for anyone but yourself. That explains why you’re a republican.
“Maybe you should move to one of those countries that does allow ex-cons to vote, you might be happier.”
Or maybe we should send you to one that supports torture and other dictatorship crimes - as exploiting the poor and the underpriveleged seems to match your values better. Me personally, I prefer to have the vision of all men created equal, no taxation without representation and other democratic values applied equally. If you believe I’ll simply give up this country to your terroristic and unpatriotic values, you know even less of americans or american values than I thought…
So lets reiterate.
The republicans stole the elections.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:08 pmThe republicans suck in the polls because they don’t represent america.
The democrats and anti-war movement mustered 300,000 in DC alone, and 10s of thousands of protestors elsewhere.
The republicans could only muster 400 protestors, because the core of republican losers is quite small, and only represents a fringe insane group of idiots (that would be the trolls here)…
I dunno, but the troll screaming seems
September 26th, 2005 at 5:08 pmmore lame than usual.
Usually CC writes something that requires thought.
“Whenever I read crude reference to those insensitively bashing he/she’s with sexual deformities (ie: Hermaphrodite) I figure Silent Susan or “that other one†must have deep psycho/sexual problems. Pitiful!
Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
You’re the one who chose a ‘goddess’ who’s known to use sexual and psychological manipulation to cause war, pestilence and chaos. Clearly the psycho/sexual childhood issues you must have experienced made you choose a name that shows your inability to have a functional relationship. I feel sorry for your husband/wife!
September 26th, 2005 at 5:09 pmSo lets reiterate.
The republicans stole the elections.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:10 pmThe republicans suck in the polls because they don’t represent america.
The democrats and anti-war movement mustered 300,000 in DC alone, and 10s of thousands of protestors elsewhere.
The republicans could only muster 400 protestors, because the core of republican losers is quite small, and only represents a fringe insane group of idiots (that would be the trolls here)…
afterthought,
Usually CC pretends to be rational, clearly this whole failure of the reichwing to garner no more than 400 people, while 300,000 opponents showed up in DC alone must frighten him/her with the realization that their side has no REAL support…
September 26th, 2005 at 5:11 pmIf it is your desire to make intelligent decisions in life you will invariably make mistakes. This is where republicans in this country seem to make their living. Their job is to confuse and blur the issues so that some of the time decisions go their way. They are good at it too. I think this is why they are so smug when they make their arguments like say on Maher (opinions aside.) There you will see liberals trying to form ideas and invariably the repug will smugly argue to the contrary by making arguments that don’t seem to make sense but at the same time are tough to counter.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:12 pmAnd someone who licks their lips at seeing dead palestinians shouldn’t ever accuse others of having either psycho or sexual issues - clearly our zionist hermaphrodite has both!
September 26th, 2005 at 5:12 pmBlur,
They aren’t tough to counter - you look them in the face and say.
That’s a bold face lie you idiot. Were you home schooled, or are you just naturally that stupid?
So lets reiterate.
The republicans stole the elections.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:13 pmThe republicans suck in the polls because they don’t represent america.
The democrats and anti-war movement mustered 300,000 in DC alone, and 10s of thousands of protestors elsewhere.
The republicans could only muster 400 protestors, because the core of republican losers is quite small, and only represents a fringe insane group of idiots (that would be the trolls here)…
Darleen… Darleen. OK, let’s go through your points:
“Funny Mark, it IS usually Leftists who believe any discussion of morality is nothing but “rightwing†tripe.”
Inane generality attempts to redefine word “morality”. Leftists are extremely eager to discuss morality, particularly as it pertains to killing people and stuff.
“Explains a lot about the “protesters†with their “castrate Cheney†“Free Palestine†“9/11: inside job†signs…”
Explains what? That extremists and nutjobs are attracted to large demonstrations?
“Even a couple of diarists at dKos finally got nervous about the veil dropping from the pro-terrorist agenda of ANSWER, et al.”
See above.
“I read a lot of sites and post mostly on my own.”
Fair enough.
“If you cannot morally judge as evil the “insurgency†that targets Iraqi civilians, that beheads civilian captives, that sends suicide bombers into market places or discos…sir, you are a moral imbecile.”
And if you cannot read what I plainly posted above: “Evil is as evil does, Darleen. So yes, many of them are evil. Some of them are just pissed off we are there..”
Then perhaps, being charitable, you were just in a hurry. Or maybe, Ma’am, you are an imbecile.
“And that is the point of this thread..not that the dowdification of Charles’ post (â€The only crowd shot I’ve seen so far is at Yahoo, where it looks like the turnout was much less than 100,000 people.†wow, sounds so DEFINITIVE and so LYING, doesn’t it?) proves a “rightwing agenda†but is a sad matter of showcasing the moral depravity of those aggitating for a US military defeat in Iraq and widespread anti-Semitism.”
Charles’ post WAS “LYING”, doesn’t “sound like” but IS. He has devolved to a Bush apologist and propogandist. Not long ago, the man had the decency to correct his posts when they were materially wrong. Now he doesn’t. An example was when he posted the false story that Gov. Blanco had never called a State of Emergency. When the Wash. Post corrected their planted story, Johnson never did. It was deliberate, and in that moment, if not before, he gave up whatever credibility he’d claimed as he annoints his blog “fact-checking” and dedicated to “truth”. This thread here is about that. It’s about LYING and getting CAUGHT. And it can’t be spun away. But, hey. You gave it a try. Signed up for “Pajamas Media” have you?
September 26th, 2005 at 5:16 pm#119
“Our government is organized under the US Constitution.”
Interesting that the right wingers will pull out the Constitution to back themselves, all the while their party is trying to destroy the rights we have in the same exact document.
Patriot Act anybody?
September 26th, 2005 at 5:17 pmThis is how out of touch the trolls (aka: ReichWingNut Wack-jobs) are.
54% of the people polled ( http://www.zogby.com/ features/ featuredtables.dbm?ID=152 ) say war in Iraq is not worth loosing American lives for.
60% of the people polled ( http://www.zogby.com/ features/ featuredtables.dbm?ID=42 ) feel that King George is doing a fair or poor job. Period.
66% of the people polled ( http://www.zogby.com/ features/ featuredtables.dbm?ID=95 ) feel that George the Stupid is doing fair or poor on jobs and economy.
If the elections aren’t rigged again (and they will be) the ReichWingNut Wack-jobs would be toast.
Impeach Bush NOW! And make sure there’s a paper trail come next election.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:17 pmReichWing fringe Fundies(Darleen CC Neo-Con)are out in full force today! LOL
Why do fundies hate America?
September 26th, 2005 at 5:19 pmLiberalism is a mental disorder….and is the cancer killing America.
Who’s in power now? I’ll give you a hint: it’s not liberals.
If you don’t like it here move somewhere else.
So I presume that you never said anything against Clinton when he was President, right? You just decided that it was un-American to disagree with our leaders, and made plans to leave the country instead.
Yeah, right.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:21 pmJesus,
I’d worship you if I weren’t hindu ;)
September 26th, 2005 at 5:22 pm#149 - Jai Ganesha. Jai Siva. Hari Krishna. Hari Vishnu. Hari Rama.
Or if you are from outside India… Om mani padme hum. We are all Buddha. We are all one. :-)
September 26th, 2005 at 5:26 pmThe MPD police chief, who hasn’t always been the most friendly to protests said he saw a minimum of 100,000 present.
September 26th, 2005 at 5:26 pmActually religious fanaticism is one of the common symptoms of schizophrenia. The big fat mightyZionistHermaphrodite should talk to the couch - clearly she’s talking the talk. Does Schizophrenia run in your family, or are you the first one to succumb?
And now back to the thread!
Americans hate republicans, and they poll like Nixon with watergate!
Republicans aren’t competent enough to even get 1,000 people to show up in a nationwide protest to support them.
Republicans support torture and other mistreatments that once again clearly show mental illness is a prerequisite to become a reichwinger.
Republicans screw the whole economy for the promise of free money, showing what dopes keep biting, so I keep getting the Nigerian Spam!
Democrats got 300,000 protestors to take off time from their work, their families and their lives to demostrate these fascist morons!
Progressives rock, and republicans steal and block!
September 26th, 2005 at 5:27 pmJesus,
Wow, someone who actually understands religion - welcome and I’m happy to see myself and you at once :)
September 26th, 2005 at 5:28 pm