Today, while testifying under oath, Mike Brown claimed that Louisiana Gov. Blanco’s August 27th request to the President for a federal emergency declaration excluded Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquerines parishes. Here’s Brown today under questioning by Rep. Steve Buyer:
BUYER: So I’d like to know why did the president’s federal emergency assistance declaration of August 27th not include the parishes of Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquemines?
BROWN: …[I]f a governor does not request a particular county or a particular parish, that’s not included in the request.
BUYER: All right.
Orleans Parish is New Orleans. I was listening to my colleague, Mr. Jefferson’s, questions about when they talked about, you know, they asked for this assistance for three days and then president responded the very next day, not the day that it was made — the request — but the governor of Louisiana actually excluded New Orleans from the president’s federal emergency assistance declaration?
BROWN: Again, Congressman, we looked at the request.The governors make the request by…
BUYER: Let me ask this. Since you went through the exercise in Pam, was that not shocking to you that the governor would excluded New Orleans from the declaration?
BROWN: Yes.
BUYER: When that request came in excluding these three parishes, did you question it?
BROWN: We questioned it. But I made the decision that we were going to go ahead and move assets in regardless because we have the ability to add those parishes…
In fact, Blanco requested the President to declare a disaster in “all the southeastern parishes,” which includes Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquemines. See the request for yourself HERE.
I’m glad we are paying Brown his full salary so we can learn from “his views on his experience with Katrina.”
Incompetent AND a Liar! Almost a trifecta, Brownie! You’re doing a heckuva a job…….
September 27th, 2005 at 6:13 pmWow, any democrat willing to demand he be jailed for perjury the way they did for clinton? I doubt any such ‘fairness doctrine’ will ever be associated with republicans. They prefer power, lies and coverup over morality.
September 27th, 2005 at 6:13 pmWell, let’s see.
From the request:
“The affected areas are all the southeastern parishes including the New Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate I-49 corridor and northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are accepting the thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be flooded as a result of Hurricane Katrina.”
Yeah Brownie, you just lied under oath.
“You’re doing a heckuva job Brownie.”
Keep it up.
September 27th, 2005 at 6:15 pmDepends on your meaning of “All”
September 27th, 2005 at 6:18 pmThat’s a really pathetic spin-point.
September 27th, 2005 at 6:18 pmIt just wouldn’t make sense.
Mr. Conflict of Interest, you’re doing a heckuva job.
September 27th, 2005 at 6:21 pmIt’s not perjury if he’s too stupid to realize that he’s telling lies.
September 27th, 2005 at 6:25 pmok - but WHY? - “why did the president’s federal emergency assistance declaration of August 27th not include the parishes of Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquemines?” (Buyer)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2005/ 08/ 20050827-1.html
…the governor included those parishes - WHY DIDN’T THE WHITE HOUSE???
September 27th, 2005 at 6:27 pmWHY?
It sounded like Steve Buyer knew the Governor’s letter included all of New Orleans, so why didn’t he show him the letter and expose his lie right then and there?
September 27th, 2005 at 6:29 pmyea, I have to wonder if the republicans on the hill have photos of every single democrat in a compromising position with Monica Lewinsky or something. They just roll over and play dead. I sure didn’t vote to elect a possum up there.
September 27th, 2005 at 6:33 pm#9
Exactly. the Dems are just as unprepared as the republicans. Anyone of the regular posters here could do a better job at taking these bastards to task.
Shit, just have a laptop with Think Progress loaded up.
Keep up the good work TP!
September 27th, 2005 at 6:34 pmIt would be one thing if they actually “played Jerry” up there but they aren’t. They’re playing the “other” dead.
September 27th, 2005 at 6:36 pm… afterall, if the Big Boss can lie and get away with it for years on end, why not the cronies too? :-(
September 27th, 2005 at 6:39 pm[…] Brown Falsely Smears Blanco Under Oath Today, while testifying under oath, Mike Brown claimed that Louisiana Gov. Blanco’s August 27th request to the President for a federal emergency declaration excluded Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquerines parishes. […]
September 27th, 2005 at 6:40 pmNotice that the governor’s letter is not as specific as the whitehouse declaration. The governor mentioned a general area and not specific parishes. The declaration was very specific and listed all parishes. So, how did the feds know which parishes the governor meant?
My guess is that some attachment or follow up letter is missing in the document trail here.
If not, the feds ‘interpreted’ the general statement in the governors letter, which would mean that some fed clerk did the research and figured out the parish names and filled them in. If you’ve ever worked with government employees (I do all the time), you’d know that a government employee taking the ball and running with it is very rare.
So, perhaps there is a missing attachment or follow up to the Governor request?
September 27th, 2005 at 6:45 pm“Shit, just have a laptop with Think Progress loaded up.
Keep up the good work TP! ”
The problem with politicians, is that they usually have some people or manipulation skills, but they’re usually not very smart. They typically think they are however, so if they don’t remember something, or if they remember the wrong something that propaganda has put in their ear, they get tripped up. That’s why the MSM is so dangerous for the liberals in congress, it makes them believe lies that are readily debunked by a more intellectually curious person.
It’s rare to have a bill clinton who’s a real policy wonk and a brilliant memory. Most of them are just dumb golf nut country club idiots… And that’s true of BOTH parties unfortunately.
September 27th, 2005 at 6:49 pm#15
Mikey,
Is this not specific enough for you:
“The affected areas are all the southeastern parishes including the New Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate I-49 corridor and northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are accepting the thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be flooded as a result of Hurricane Katrina.â€
It clearly states “ALL SOUTHEASTERN PARISHES,” then goes on to mention “NORTHERN PARISHES.”
September 27th, 2005 at 6:52 pm#17, yes, that works for me, but I’m saying the feds wouldn’t have taken the time to decipher where the demarcation point(s) was for “southeast” and then list each specific parish. In my experience, agencies typically don’t interpret or translate for one another. Practically speaking, they would have cut and pasted the info from one letter to another.
September 27th, 2005 at 6:58 pmHe lies with the worst of them. He won’t accept that he screwed up. He blames everyone else - wrongly, and with incorrect information.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:00 pmBushie says he did “a heckuva job.”
Bushie doesn’t blame himself for anything either. He points his finger at everyone else. He lies.
Put them all in a bag, shake them up, pour them out and they’re all the same:
Liars, incompetent fools, born and bred in a world insulated from reality, yet they arrogantly think they have the ability to do the job. Life is not a frat party where someone gets the keg and someone brings the pot - these guys never got past that stage in life.
#15 - as #17 (Spudge_Boy quotes) - re-read the state request - it’s pretty clear to me. And, anyone with even a single neuron firing would understand that a hurricane arriving by sea (moving north) is going to cross the southern most land masses as it comes in. As Homer would say “doh!”. The sad part is, this hack is still being paid by you and me to “consult” on what a crappy job he did. Nice.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:01 pm“but I’m saying the feds wouldn’t have taken the time to decipher where the demarcation point(s) was for “southeast†and then list each specific parish.”
You’re right. they didn’t take the time to translate anything. They stayed on vacation and are now trying to blame it on the local authority who were on TV for three days straight begging for help.
There was no need to translate anything. When Hurricane Katrina hit MS, LA and AL, it covered the entire freaking Gulf of Mexico. It didn’t take a degree in rocket science to see that there was going to need to be a huge federal response to the hurricane.
They stayed on vacation while people were dying. PLain and simple.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:03 pm#20, I know it, it’s clear to me too. The state mentioned NO specifically, which adds even more to what I’m saying. My guess is that this letter prompted a request for clarification, and the response to that request listed the specific parishes. I’m just saying that from what I’ve seen, government employees just aren’t that motivated to do interpretation work like this.
Anyway, its just my theory based on the way I’ve seen agencies work. Either way, incompetence abound.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:08 pmGov. Blanco has responded with a public statement that calls Brown a liar and implies that he’s a perjurer.
Read it here.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:10 pmMarie,
May I paraphrase?
“Put them all in a bag, shake them up, and pour them out…” on your tomato plants and watch the results. Much better than the non-organic fertilizers and manures. This BULLSHIT is guaranteed to grow everything except the truth!
September 27th, 2005 at 7:10 pmSorry, here’s the link:
http://gov.louisiana.gov/ Press_Release_detail.asp?id=1127
September 27th, 2005 at 7:11 pm#23
Sid there is no link to “Here”
September 27th, 2005 at 7:14 pmOh that’s to good to not post the full thing for non-clickers.
Statement of Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco Regarding Congressional Testimony of former FEMA Director Mike Brown
September 27, 2005
“Mike Brown testified today, under oath, that I did not include Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquemines parishes in my original disaster declaration request sent to the President on August 28. In fact, that request did include 14 parishes in southeast Louisiana, including Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquemines.
“Mr. Brown further suggested that I did not order an evacuation of New Orleans until Sunday, Aug. 28. In fact, the evacuation was ordered on the morning of Saturday, August 27. Within 48 hours, 1.3 million citizens – representing more than 90 percent of the region — were safely evacuated in the state’s extraordinarily effective evacuation plan that included early use of contraflow on the interstate system.
“Such falsehoods and misleading statements, made under oath before Congress, are shocking. It clearly demonstrates the appalling degree to which Mr. Brown is either out of touch with the truth or reality.
“Today’s hearing only supports the need for a thorough, non-partisan investigation of this event.â€
September 27th, 2005 at 7:19 pmDid Brown testify about how he and FEMA helped deliver hurricane-ravaged Florida for Bush in election year 2004?
For the background, see:
“FEMA: The Florida Election Management Agency.”
September 27th, 2005 at 7:24 pm#20 and #21, Look at the dates. The press release found at the site linked in #25 says “…in my original disaster declaration request sent to the President on August 28…”. The declaration request linked in the original post in this thread is dated August 27. Also, the whitehouse declaration is dated August 27: http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2005/ 08/ 20050827-1.html
So was there a second request made on the 28th or is this a typo?
And it sure would have been pretty cut and dry if the governor would have included a copy of the letter with her latest press release, showing that the request “…include[d] 14 parishes in southeast Louisiana, including Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquemines…”. I’m sticking with my theory that there’s a piece missing here.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:34 pmI live in Louisiana unlike you people who don’t jack about what has happened in Louisiana or how Louisiana operates.
Mike Brown didn’t do a good job, but Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin actually did worse and some of it had to do with the fact that Blanco and Nagin don’t get along, since Nagin supported Bobby Jindal and not Blanco in the governor’s elections.
Blanco simply isn’t competent enough to have handle the catastrophe. Nagin isn’t either for that matter. Eddie Compass was gosh awful.
That being said FEMA sucked as well, but it was mostly Louisianians who failed Louisianians.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:36 pm#24, CTR,
September 27th, 2005 at 7:36 pmI like your addition to the bag of bull shit. I could make tomato sauce for the rest of my life with the tomatoes that would grow with that much manure!
New Orleans Rep. Jefferson is also being investigated for corruption by the FBI.
New Orleans politics is a mess and it contributed to the post-hurricane fiasco.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:38 pmHere, Mikey, will this make you happy?
http://gov.louisiana.gov/Disaster Relief Request.pdf
It is a PDF of the letter sent on August 28, which includes the names of all 14 parishes.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:47 pmAh, the comments form doesn’t like spaces in URLs, so try this one, which should be clickable.
http://gov.louisiana.gov/ Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pdf
Now, why can’t you just acknowledge that Mike Brown is a liar and a perjurer?
September 27th, 2005 at 7:49 pm#33, yes, case closed. Thanks Sid the Fish.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:50 pmThe state request included the southern parishes:
http://gov.louisiana.gov/ Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pdf
The white house declaration curiously only listed the northern parishes.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2005/ 08/ 20050827-1.html
Here’s a map
September 27th, 2005 at 7:52 pmhttp://www.bobharris.com/content/view/637/1/
Case not closed. That PDF is dated August 28th. The governor’s website with an HTML version of the letter has a date of August 27th, as does the White House site.
I do recall something about an earlier letter that did not at first name the southern parishes, but I’ll admit being foggy on the details.
Either way, the governor’s HTML of the letter is incosistent with the PDF, and I’ll assume the PDF version is correct.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:53 pm#29 - Mikey - good point - but, in any case, as part of the DHS (www.dhs.gov) mandate, they are to take the primary role in a large scale disaster - I quote:
“In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility on March 1st for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation.”
This was clearly a large scale disaster - and it was predicted well in advance. While I think there’s plenty of “blame” to share, part of the “make America secure” mandate of DHS was to react just a bit more swiftly than they did.
Additionally, blame can be placed on an agency who head had no disaster experience and when faced with a crisis sat on his hands, to his superiors who didn’t seem to react either, and to the President who continued to vacation while every prediction was that this would be a *HUGE* disaster. Part of “leadership” means you lead - and from the top on down, there seemed to be a lack of it.
Perhaps it’s time we *ALL* kick the political hacks OUT OF OFFICE - be them dems or repubs - It’s time for government be “of the people, by the people, and for the people” - not a bunch of paid hacks.
September 27th, 2005 at 7:56 pmA horse breeder…? Or just a horse’s ass..?
September 27th, 2005 at 8:03 pm#34. No need to be smug, Sid. Until you posted that PDF, my suspicion was that a document was missing from what was posted here previously. Turns out I was right. If you want someone to get behind your argument, your facts need to be a little tighter, and now, with your .pdf link, they are. If it was me making an accusation, you’d be all over my ass for not providing solid proof, so don’t be a smart ass when I question the facts.
So, yes, Mike Brown is a liar and a perjurer. All the facts are clear and all in this one, convenient thread. Are YOU happy Sid?
September 27th, 2005 at 8:04 pmAnd let us not forget the Declaration of Emergency from Aug 26th.
http://www.gov.state.la.us/ Press_Release_detail.asp?id=973
Wow, even sooner than everything else.
Lyle, you’re a stupid ass troll. Nobody cares what you have to say. Welcome back, your spot was almost taken by Randy.
September 27th, 2005 at 8:04 pmRich (#37),
You really need to read these things more closely.
The Gov. declared an EMERGENCY on August 26. The White House declared an EMERGENCY on August 27.
Gov. Blanco requested assistance via the Stafford Act on August 28, asking the President to declare an “expedited major disaster.” On August 29, the President made that declaration:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2005/ 08/ 20050829-2.html
There actually is a sequence of these things. You can un-confuse yourself by reading more closely.
Oh, and Mike Brown is a liar and a perjurer.
September 27th, 2005 at 8:06 pmBrownie’s been eatin’ hashish brownies.
September 27th, 2005 at 8:10 pmA lie a day helps keep the special prosecutor away!
September 27th, 2005 at 8:10 pmSid, my point is the text in the article above and the Governor’s own website date the letter on the 27th, while the PDF dates it on the 28th, which the President’s 29th declaration follows.
The declaration on the 26th named no parishes, was a statewide declaration. http://gov.louisiana.gov/ 2005%20%20proclamations/ 48pro2005-Emergency-HurricaneKatrina.pdf
Problem here is if people go off saying the governor named the parishes on the 27th they can be easily proven wrong. Let’s get the facts straight.
The president’s declaration on the 27th left out the parishes in question. The one on the 29th did not. Due to the letter on the 28th.
September 27th, 2005 at 8:16 pmNo, Mikey, I’m not happy. Anyone who says they’re happy about this whole freakin’ mess is just a sick puppy.
And I’m sick of the trolls here who want to deflect attention from the Federal Agency responsible for Managing Emergencies by pointing fingers at state and local officials. They asked for help. They were let down by an incompetent political hack who should never have been given this job.
And the fact that Brownie is now lying under oath instead of accepting responsibility for his screw-ups is disgraceful. The fact that there isn’t an independent investigation of this mess is disgraceful.
You happy about all that? I sure hope not.
September 27th, 2005 at 8:20 pmThanks sid
September 27th, 2005 at 8:21 pmHey Guys,
We all agree! Mike Brown is proven to be a liar and a perjurer! Now, how do we get Congress and the Justice Department to charge him, try him, convict him, and throw his ass in jail? I would love for him to use the Nazi defense, “I was only following orders.” Then the end would be in sight and not just coming. Let us all stand and shout.
Marie, I’ll spring for a bottle of Champaigne (If my Geriatrician says Grandma won’t kill me!)
September 27th, 2005 at 8:24 pmFEMA had already declared an ongoing disaster in Jefferson, Lafourche, Plaquemines, St. Bernard, and St. Charles Parishes for Tropical Storm Cindy - they didn’t need to be declared again for Katrina:
http://www.fema.gov/ news/ eventcounties.fema?id=4768
September 27th, 2005 at 8:48 pmPress OFFICIALLY admit they go easy on the administration and DON’T DO THEIR FRIGGING JOBS!
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509270003
September 27th, 2005 at 8:48 pmSeems Rumsfeld and Brownie was coming from the same script. There were a couple sentences just about the same. I still can’t understand why using the National Guard in Iraq isn’t deminishing our security at home.
September 27th, 2005 at 8:52 pmThe privatization of the military can and will never work, its just a bullshit game for Republican profit, put together by a bunch of chicken hawks. Dick Chaney was the big gun in this.
How do you disapline private troops?
It has proved not to be more ready, no has it proven to be anything but a losing propasition. The Privatization is the main reason we never had an adequate force to police Iraq.
An Army travels and fights on its stomach not on the wishes of Haliburton. Rumsfeld is Secretary of Defense appointed by corporate America, Bush is President because of corporate America election fixing.
since this is a nation to be ran by the people and for the people, then corporate America has commited no less than an act of treason.
We sue all of corporate America that has been involved in this mess, especially the terroristic Carlyle Group
that sells weapons to all sides, for every dime they have and all the big rich families envolved in this scheme and we would have world peace.
DAMAJa
Rich, the questioner today said that Gov. Blanco in her letter of Aug. 27 “actually excluded New Orleans from the president’s federal emergency assistance declaration.” Mr. Brown agreed. That was not true. The Gov’s letter mentioned the Southeast parishes and specifically called out the New Orleans metropolitan area.
The questioner followed up by mentioning “that request came in excluding these three parishes…” and Mr. Brown agreed. Again, there was nothing in that letter or any follow-up that excluded any parishes.
The factual record seems pretty damn clear to me.
September 27th, 2005 at 8:54 pmMy favorite republican smear of the day.
A white Tennessee lawmaker lamenting his exclusion from the state’s Black Legislative Caucus claimed Tuesday the group was less accommodating that even the Ku Klux Klan.
Anyone see anything wrong with a minority group working for civil rights for an oppressed few is called KKK - a MAJORITY based group who’s whole existence was based on violence, intimidation and assurances of NO civil rights?
Wow, republicans sure do breed them stupid!
September 27th, 2005 at 8:56 pmGOP: Guilty of Perjury.
September 27th, 2005 at 9:01 pmsid -
mikey was asking if you were happy that he got on your ’side’…no need to be an azz.
i doubt anyone is happy with the situation.
September 27th, 2005 at 9:24 pmbob harris dot com has a great stroy about exactly this.
September 27th, 2005 at 9:28 pmStake this snivelling shitheel Brown over a red-ant hill, smear him with decomposing meat, and leave him to the tender mercies of the desert wildlife…yuh oughta be able to hear his shrieks at 1000 yards…
September 27th, 2005 at 9:33 pmBuyer was one of the Clinton impeachment prosecutors. Maybe we should ask Buyer what he thinks about Brownie lying to him?
September 27th, 2005 at 9:37 pmAs a relatively new “Blogger” I am curious as to the origin of the concept of Trolls. My dated reference material lists the noun “Troll” as an ugly sucker living under a bridge that scares young children or a hook with stink bait pulled on the end of a line to attract fish. Other than the possible “ugly” and “fish” parts I can see little connection. Any help would be appreciated to save me the effort of developing another pronoun.
September 27th, 2005 at 9:47 pm“The affected areas are all the southeastern parishes including the New Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate I-49 corridor and northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are accepting the thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be flooded as a result of Hurricane Katrina.â€
Aw c’mon you guys. Brownie had a lot of work to do. He couldn’t be expected to go look at a map and get the parish names…..
September 27th, 2005 at 9:51 pmLyle, Even if what you say is true, why does FEMA exist? Because it is ASSUMED that local authorities do not know how to deal with major disasters. FEMA are supposed to be the experts who have the well-rehearsed plan and the right resources. It’s like the Fire Department standing by and watching your house burn down, and then blaming you for not having a recently-recharged fire extinguisher on hand. Duh!!
September 27th, 2005 at 9:55 pmI think people are really playing into the Bush Administration’s hands by going after Brown here. This is nothing more than a Rovian-type counterattack. Remember, these guys have been able to smear decorated veterans while their man was AWOL. Brown is still being paid. He is now being used as part of the Bush “blame-game” they are pretending not participate in. It’s all good fun to have a go at Brown, but this only serves to isolate and scapegoat, while allowing Bush to continue casting the blame on local Democrats.
September 27th, 2005 at 9:58 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Trolls
September 27th, 2005 at 10:09 pmSid, the question Brown’s was answering was “why did the president’s federal emergency assistance declaration of August 27th not include the parishes of Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquemines?”.
The PDF you posted which explicity names all the parishes is dated the 28th.
Yes, Brown lied. The governor did not explicity exclude certain parishes, and even named the region in the letter of the 27th.
But a letter from the 28th is not relevant to the question.
September 27th, 2005 at 10:11 pmOrleans and Jefferson Parishes combined have 900,000 residents of a metro area of 1.3 million.
How do you miss that?
Andrew
Lafayette, Louisiana
PS: if you google “Katrina Timeline” Think Progress is now the #1 hit.
September 27th, 2005 at 10:19 pmRandi Rhodes on http://www.airamericaradio.com talked about this at great length today and also played the tape several times pointing out when and how he committed perjury.
Hey Brownie! Fat, out of shape, middle aged white guys who have a history of screwing with black people just don’t have an enjoyable time in prison. They become someone’s bitch.
Good luck with your new cell mate! I’m sure he and his friends will say to you when you are down on your knees, “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job!”
September 27th, 2005 at 10:19 pmTo All:
Please don’t listen to the Lyle the troll. I am actually from Louisiana myself, New Orleans to be exact. If Lyle is from Louisiana he is from the Northern part. That area is crawling with Drinky McCokeSpoons apologists. He’s just one more punk in a long line of punks trolling the internet spamming about how incompetent the local authorities were, half of them are probably on the White House payroll.
If Nagin hadn’t been so outspoken I am sure FEMA would never have bothered to show up at all. God bless those folks in FEMA who are actually hardworking and competent. I pity them that they have to work under these fools.
I am displaced right now. Maybe Lyle would like to give me a place to stay. Maybe while I’m visiting I could teach this punk some manners.
September 27th, 2005 at 10:24 pmI don’t have time to read posts.
September 27th, 2005 at 10:28 pmBrown got a knock in at Chertoff.
Why aren’t we talking about that? It was over funding.
Lyle is a bottom in a top world.
September 27th, 2005 at 10:29 pmAN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE…OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE…ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS.
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ASSUMPTION-HANCOCK-HARRISON-JACKSON-LIVINGSTON-LOWER JEFFERSON-
LOWER LAFOURCHE-LOWER PLAQUEMINES-LOWER ST. BERNARD-LOWER TERREBONNE-
ORLEANS-ST. CHARLES-ST. JAMES-ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST-ST. TAMMANY-
TANGIPAHOA-UPPER JEFFERSON-UPPER LAFOURCHE-UPPER PLAQUEMINES-
UPPER ST. BERNARD-UPPER TERREBONNE-
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005
…INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT…
HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. TROPICAL STORM
FORCE WINDS ARE CURRENTLY MOVING INTO THE COASTAL MARSHES AND WILL
PERSIST FOR THE NEXT 26 TO 28 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL
ONSET AROUND MIDNIGHT NEAR THE COAST AND BY 3 AM CLOSER TO THE NEW
ORLEANS METRO AREA AND PERSIST FOR 9 TO 15 HOURS. MAXIMUM WIND GUSTS
AROUND 175 MPH ARE LIKELY IN THE WARNED AREA BY DAYBREAK MONDAY.
DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS ONCE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ONSET!
$$
LAZ034>037-039-046>049-MSZ068>071-077-290300-
AMITE-ASCENSION-EAST BATON ROUGE-EAST FELICIANA-IBERVILLE-
PEARL RIVER-PIKE-POINTE COUPEE-ST. HELENA-WALTHALL-WASHINGTON-
WEST BATON ROUGE-WEST FELICIANA-WILKINSON-
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005
…INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT…
HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. TROPICAL STORM
FORCE WINDS ARE CURRENTLY MOVING INTO THE COASTAL MARSHES AND WILL
SREAD NORTHWESTWARD INTO THE GREATER BATON ROUGE AREA AND
SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI LATER THIS EVENING. TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO ONSET AROUND 9 PM TONIGHT AND PERSIST
FOR 22 TO 26 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL ONSET AROUND
DAYBREAK AND PERSIST FOR ABOUT 5 TO 10 HOURS. MAXIMUM WIND
GUSTS OF 80 TO 90 MPH ARE POSSIBLE IN EAST-CENTRAL LOUISIANA
AND SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI.
DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS ONCE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ONSET!
$$
September 27th, 2005 at 10:37 pmMikey Jerkoff has been getting a free ride so far. He actually had the responsiblity to declare NOLO a matter of “National Importance” but didn’t do so. All his actions need to be investigated.
September 27th, 2005 at 10:47 pm[…] This time, it’s Mike “I AM TO COMPETENT! AM TO! AM TO! AM TOOOOO!” Brownie Today, while testifying under oath, Mike Brown claimed that Louisiana Gov. Blanco’s August 27th request to the President for a federal emergency declaration excluded Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquerines parishes. … In fact, Blanco requested the President to declare a disaster in “all the southeastern parishes,” which includes Orleans, Jefferson and Plaquemines. […]
September 27th, 2005 at 11:17 pmBrownie is still on FEMA’s Payroll and is now also an employee of Halliburton
September 27th, 2005 at 11:21 pmWell, all I know is FEMA looked like a dog humping a football while Chertoff stood by gawking.
Where was Bush and Chaney you ask? They were not interested in the plight of New Orleans at least they made it look that way. Bush and Chaney only became interested when the press began to show the horror that was unfolding for five days.
Who refused to allow aid into the city in the form of the Red Cross and citizens from around the area? FEMA. If they were not engaged as of day one then why were they keeping people and supplies out?
Who cut the Sheriff’s telephone lines? FEMA. Why would they do that?
Who turned away a fuel tanker in the Gulf destined for the local government? FEMA.
Again I ask, why would they do that?
After five days of watching desperate people at the dome on international television, who went on TV and said, “uh, we didn’t know they were there.†? Mr. Brown and FEMA.
Mr. Chertoff and Mr. Brown must have been the only people with televisions on the planet that didn’t know they were there.
Mr Chertoff said he learned the levees broke after reading his morning paper. Hello, who’s minding the store?
Who said after Mr. Brown made is inept statement, “FEMA is doing a excellent job†even with no troops on the ground? Mr Chertoff did representing Homeland Security.
Who after five days of hell said “nice job Brownie†GWB did, representing the National interest.
Who had to go on a radio show and plead with the powers above him to get some
GD help down there now. Who had to scream and yell to explain that he was being lied to, there were not 40,000 troops in New Orleans, Mr. Nagin did. He was doing his job. He was there in the trenches every day.
I do not know much about the Governor but I can tell you this. You just don’t turn the rains over to the national government. Especially this GWB government.
FEMA did not need any additional authority to move in and help the citizens of this disaster. The seemed to respond rather quickly for Rita. They failed in their duties concerning Katrina+5. Homeland Security failed in their duties concerning Katrina+5 and the President failed in his duties, but what’s new he always does
September 28th, 2005 at 1:17 amThe copy and paste method from Gov. Blanco’s request to Bush’s declaration caused the problem. Blanco’s original letter (of Aug 27) named no parishes, only areas ie all southeast parishes, parishes along Interstate 49 (which goes northwest from Lafayette to Shreveport) and parishes along Interstate 20 (running east/west across northern Louisiana.
Blanco’s second letter, dated Aug 28, listed parishes in three separate groups depending on how they would be affected by Katrina. Only the last group was copied into the president’s order and it was the group of parishes least severely affected. Those on the coast expected to experience flooding as well as severe wind damage and the group of parishes expected to receive only wind damage were omitted.
Some attention to detail by our federal brains!
September 28th, 2005 at 1:47 amSomeone needs to give Mikey a geography book since he
September 28th, 2005 at 1:54 amis so ignorant of American locations. Maybe he
flunked Geography in college. Must have been a keg
party the day of the test. Ignorance kills!
Brownie also lied about the evacuations. They started Saturday morning, not Sunday. I’m from Louisiana, and I can tell you that anybody who wanted to leave was able to get out in plenty of time. Contra flow worked perfectly this time, not like Ivan last year. Give the state some credit for doing a good evacuation.
September 28th, 2005 at 2:02 amGood lord, The Busheviks can’t even lie competently. There is no hope for this party. It is nice watching them implode though.
September 28th, 2005 at 2:09 amBrown also lied about the evacuation times in answering questions from Rep. Rogers (R-KY). Basically, he said that evacuations started in Louisiana on Sunday, when there were multiple evacuations in Louisiana (both mandatory and voluntary) on Saturday morning and afternoon in the state.
http://llamaschool.typepad.com/ blog/ 2005/ 09/ browns_testimon.html
September 28th, 2005 at 2:24 amBrownie will draw a salary as long as he’s the only one who knows where the negatives are of Bush driving the porcelain wheel. Actually hiring Brownie back to ’splain away his shortcomings is pure Rove— I can just hear the conversation: “WELL Brownie, if you won’t cough up the negatives and the tapes, then the least we can do is give you an opportunity to clear your good name. (Brown responds positively, thinking, of course that he will actually DO so.) Rove arranges for the spotlights and Brown does Brown: i.e. flubs everything and blurts an easily-verified lie in the process. Result: 1. All Bush’s (and some of FEMA’s) blame falls on Brown. 2. the Press gets off Bush’s tail and (3.) in the mind of the public, the image of the Katrina debacle becomes one with Brownie.
Threefer.
September 28th, 2005 at 2:26 amThen there’s the speed of the Bush administration’s response to such disasters. Just one week ago the White House declared that a major disaster existed in Louisiana, specifically most of the areas (such as Jefferson Parish) that are now under water. Was the White House psychic about the disaster ahead? Not exactly. In fact the major disaster referred to Tropical Storm Cindy, which struck the state a full seven weeks earlier. That announcement triggered federal aid for the stricken areas, where the clean-up had been on hold for almost two months while the White House chewed things over.
(above from Newsweek article may explain why the correct parishes were missing on bush’s emergency. http://msnbc.msn.com/ id/ 9148526/ site/ newsweek/ page/ 2/
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September 28th, 2005 at 2:26 amsomeone in an earlier post wondered if the state must have compromising sexual evidence on virtually the entire congress[dems, too].
yes, the state does. that is really what the intell services are about.
and are congers stupid enough to become compromised, taped? yes, most of them are that irresponsible.
there are honey-trap hotels in DC.
the most notorious that i encountered in 1973-1974 was the loew’s l’enfant plaza.
every room was bugged. the bar was filled with hookers. and the house security welcomed them.
this hotel was part of the watergate saga. though virtually unmentioned.
the story here was that if you stayed at that hotel, and succumbed to the blandishments of the hookers, then you were bugged.
and blackmailed by the nixonians.
never stray in DC hotels. they are all operated by the state.
September 28th, 2005 at 2:36 amLook at the whitehouse version vs. the PDF. Blanco lists the parishes to receive major damage and significant damage and includes orleans, etc. by name. Then she lists other parishes that will be affected because they will be receiving evacuees.
The whitehouse site then just seems to pick and choose parishes and excludes many. This is weird.
September 28th, 2005 at 3:02 am…the governor included those parishes - WHY DIDN’T THE WHITE HOUSE???
WHY? Comment by katy
I wonder if the WH was already thinking about federalizing those parishes? (For no good reason, I might add)
September 28th, 2005 at 3:16 amLYLE - some of it had to do with the fact that Blanco and Nagin don’t get along, since Nagin supported Bobby Jindal and not Blanco in the governor’s elections.
OK, exactly HOW did their not getting along add to the problems?
September 28th, 2005 at 3:23 am#85:
I wonder if the WH was already thinking (…)
I assure you, it was not.
September 28th, 2005 at 3:29 am[…] Brown Falsely Smears Blanco Under Oath Brown’s Revisionist History Brown Blames HorsesAss.org Michael Brown: PR Was FEMA’s Biggest Problem […]
September 28th, 2005 at 3:42 am#85:I wonder if the WH was already thinking (…)
I assure you, it was not. Comment by jfadsojafojds
How do you know?
September 28th, 2005 at 4:35 amLook it should be obvious by now! All of these Republican inquistadors “on the ground” want the blame shift from Dumbya’ and themselves. So “Brownie” is the sacrificial lamb or as they like to mantra on: “scapegoat”. I think the correct operative adjective pronoun is “fallguy”. Brownie is dead wrong and a smarmy lying weasel just like his buddy Dumbya’. But all of these Congressman (R) know full well that they are culpable too. Think of all of those needless junkets to SW Asia and other countries around the world them meddling in stuff they little understand. Where was their mindless meddling in Louisiana during the storm? The media was there in droves! These guys are throwing strategic “softballs” at Brownie. Some are cloaked as “hardballs” (i.e. Chris Shays (R-CT), Henry Bonilla (R-TX), etc.)…
The DEMS have called for an independant investigation like when Ken Starr was appointed to investigate a presidential blow-job. Come on isn’t this REAL blow-job in Louisisana worth a Ken Starr investigation? Nobody got dead in Clinton’s version. Maybe we need more ex-CIA (R) politicos sneaking about looking for blue dresses like Bob Barr (R). I think the August 27th governor Blanco memo to Washington will be Bush’s “Downing Street Memo” Katrina-style!
Spooky
September 28th, 2005 at 6:27 amFOOL ON THE HILL
—————-
I also want to set the record straight regarding the RIGHT-confused media (and Brownie) blaming Mayor Nagin for:
1) Not using the 2,000 flooded school buses.
2) Not availing himself of the Amtrak train evacuation offer.
As to #1 there were only 364 busses 70 of them that would not even start due to mechanical failure. There were no drivers scheduled who would have never showed up anyway. Like the 1/3 of NOPD that did not show up for work. Is that the mayor’s fault? 300+ buses would have been a total waste of time as there were more people to be evac’d than that. With 18+ people per bus and the 6-hour round trip to Houston and back (no room in Baton Rouge)… just do the math.
As to #2 Ray Nagin said HE NEVER got such a phone call from Amtrak! If he did he would have jumped at it without hesitation. Will the Amtrak person step forward and identify themselves and identify who he/she spoke with in the mayor’s office this offer?
Blanco told Bush to take over on August 27th. Mayor Nagin called Bush twice “begging” him to step up to the bat. Right-wing pundits say Nagin “high-tailed it” to Baton Rouge in the middle of the mess. WHAT LIARS! Ray went to Baton Rouge to meet with Blanco and Bush on AIRFORCE ONE!!! At that meeting he told them to figure out what to do as he had already put everything in Blanco’s hands. Blanco said she needed 24 hours to figure out what to do next. BUT!!! Ol’ Dumbya’ just forgot that HE WAS ACTUALLY IN CHARGE since the August 27th memo!!! Blanco was confused as to why Bush wasn’t just steping up to the bat. So she needed 24 hours to figure out what this idiot president should have already been doing. So he sends his resume lying buddy “heckofa job” Brownie to screw things up worse.
Brownie turns away Coast Guard diesel tankers, Walmart water trucks, cuts emergency phone lines, turns away Red-Cross workers… will this so-called investigation reveal why a FEMA director would switch off an emergency landline communication system during an actual emergency???
Here’s a REAL mystery for ya’ why is it that ALL (full spectrum) radio communications black-out during Katrina, Ophelia, and Rita? Is that normal for a hurricane for ham radio, cb radio, cell phones, and police (public safety) radio communications to become totally useless during a big wind storm? Why did Brownie only have 1 sat-phone available for public safety? How could it even work if all other radio comms were being interfered with by some sort of strange microwave-oven-like pulsed-static interference? Somebody is trying to fool somebody here. I think Brownie needs more than 2 lawyers on this one.
Bush can’t be sued as one hopeless 9/11-family attorney in California just found out! The AG in Connecticut is trying to sue Bush too. He will find out quickly that it is just impossible to sue a standing president. Bush’s people know how to CYA real good (i.e. Like Galveston’s native child Kay Hutchinson (TX-R) HR S.517 (3/3/05) effective date: October 1st 2005 is a perfect example of high-tech CYA…).
Spooky
September 28th, 2005 at 7:06 amBrown specifically said Chertoff did not fund FEMA properly. Is this not a big story to you guys?
September 28th, 2005 at 8:37 amEveryone knows these guys lie! Get with the program!
Chertoff even replied by leaving Brown out to dry…
C’mon, Think Progress.
Seems PLUNGER and I are the only ones paying attention.
September 28th, 2005 at 8:38 amBrown is a crony and a patsy. Bajeebers!
September 28th, 2005 at 8:41 amPLUNGER, it’s called POSTING A LINK, not a whole damn article.
September 28th, 2005 at 8:48 amThere are a lot more counties that didn’t make the WH’s or FEMA’s list on 8/26 and 8/27. Almost all in the southern part of the state. Anybody got an electoral map
September 28th, 2005 at 8:50 amfrom the last election to overlay on the state?
Let’s face it.
As big as the Katrina hurricane disaster was, the handling of all of it, including the “rebuilding” via fast, loose, no paper trail contracts, is only symptomatic of what has taken place within the Bush/Republican party administration.
Chertoff is nothing better than a chrony.
It’s your money that’s being ripped off!
September 28th, 2005 at 9:01 amI personally like all of PLUNGER’s comments. They are quite true and verifiable via the public domain. I just want to add to his very accurate comments that there is a litle known so-called “secret operation” called Operation Balboa. It involves invading another country on the other side of the Carribean directly across from New Orleans LA. The country’s leader is ALREADY aware of this American black op probably via Red Chinese and Cuban military intelligence. One of the top-secret gadgets that will probably lead the “first-strike” is something classified called “Operation Counterforce…” a spin-off of the infamous Operation Woodpecker, Spacecoast 2020, USAF Force Multiplier (2025), and Ronald Raygun’s star-war SDI program.
Kay Hutchinson’s (R-TX) HR S.517 which goes into effect 10/1/05 makes the Counterforce SDI gadget totally legal even though it was banned by the UN in 1987! So if PLUNGER is right about the US military recruiters (and he is) then it just stands to reason that SOMEBODY is using the southern US as an experimental test-bed for future black ops somewhere else in the world!
Was Bush testing body-count yield? Did he tell Brownie to “drag his feet” so they could see the extent of the damage? Has anyone even noticed that a hurricane TURNED ALMOST A 90º RIGHT ANGLE NORTH AWAY FROM Kay Hutchinson’s hometown, Bernie Eastlund and Lyle Jenkins (inventors of this infamous SDI “gadget”) present office & hometown in Houston, and Bush’s Crawford TX ranch? Most weathermen will tell you that there was NOTHING, they know of, that would turn a category 3-5 hurricane like that making a beeline for Galveston! But none of you OFU’s (Bush’s term “one fodder units” = American citizens) are amazed! Why? Because the news media didn’t tell you to me amazed? Jeez…
Spooky
PS - ALL YOU GULF COAST VICTIMS GET BACK TO YOUR HOMES ASAP DESPITE WHAT MR. BUSH (ET AL) TELLS YOU!!! Wouldn’t it be funny if FEMA (and your insurance company) doesn’t pay you enough to cover your damages and then when you get home you find out that the federal government claims that you actually abandoned your property after they paid you for it via FEMA dollars? Then Bush starts an open property lottery for your property that SOMEHOW only his rich fat-cat commercial buddies can get into? Does that explain why real-estate speculators are in NOLA “right now” taking photos of YOUR property? I thought it was off-limits to everybody except hired Blackwater mercenaries. Well I guess you could try and buy it back from the fat-cats with your big FEMA ($200-billion?) or insurance checks… Hmmm… maybe not…
September 28th, 2005 at 9:01 amBrownie, Chertoff and Bush seem not to realize how deeply they bungled this response. By presidential directive, Bush made the Federal government a co-first responder (see below). Taken together with the National Response Plan that details the proactive role of the Feds and the number one responsibility of saving lives, I believe both Brown and Chertoff should be tried for dereliction of duty.
Homeland Security Presidential Directive / HSPD-8
(d) The term “first responder” refers to those individuals who in the early stages of an incident are responsible for the protection and preservation of life, property, evidence, and the environment, including emergency response providers as defined in section 2 of the Homeland Security Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 101), as well as emergency management, public health, clinical care, public works, and other skilled support personnel (such as equipment operators) that provide immediate support services during prevention, response, and recovery operations
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nspd/hspd-8.html
Homeland Security Act of 2002
(6) The term ‘‘emergency response providers’’ includes Federal, State, and local emergency public safety, law enforcement, emergency response, emergency medical (including hospital emergency facilities), and related personnel, agencies, and authorities.
http://news.findlaw.com/ hdocs/ docs/ terrorism/ hsa2002.pdf
September 28th, 2005 at 9:02 amDon’t forget Presidential Directive #5.
AND the Homeland Security Act Title 5, Section 501, where funding would been noticeably lacking.
Brown is taking it for the team. And everyone is falling for it. He’s blaming locals for sensational effect. And Shays is helping the smoke and mirrors stunt to protect Chertoff. Period.
September 28th, 2005 at 9:11 amPlease don’t let these right-wing sttoges fool you about this “Posse Comitatus Act of 1878″ crap! This just shows that they understand the law like the way they misinterpret the so-called “right to bear arms”! Let’s put this Posse crap to bed right now! The August 27th memo from Gov. Blanco to George Dumbya’ Bush fully makes the 1878 act null and void and moot. And why doesn’t anybody understand that Congressman Buyer (R-IN) DID NOT SAY that New Orleans (or the other locales) was not in the memo!!! Look at the gotdam thing yourself! The words “NEW ORLEANS” is right there!!! Read it yourself: http://www.gov.state.la.us/ Press_Release_detail.asp?id=976 So what was Brownie talking about? He lied! He also lied about Ray Nagin not using the buses too. CSPAN cut off the video feed right when it was getting good too…
Spooky
September 28th, 2005 at 9:17 amThe crooks, liars and thieves that run Louisiana should be up on charges. The FBI should investigate the state from top to bottom. That foolish crybaby woman of a governor should be impeached and Mayor Naygro jailed for criminal negligence. Brown had it right when he stated that Louisiana is dysfunctional.
The fact is the entire state should be dissolved and split between Arkansas, Mississippi and Texas and anyone that ever worked for the State of Louisiana be bared from any government position. Most of New Orleans should be dozed and the rest turned into a water park. That’ll take care of it.
September 28th, 2005 at 9:31 amI don’t think they told Brownie he was “taking one for the team” as why did he bring his two goofy looking yes-men lawyers and actually got mad at Chris Shays (R-CT) and others when he “took umberage” with them? I think you are right he IS the designated fall-guy here and will be strung up by his toes after these slimey lying weasel Republicans (i.e. Bonilla (R-TX)) are done with their phoney “dog and pony” softball- throwing show. I just don’t think Brownie get’s that yet judging how he is answering “softball” questions way too defensively. Did you see Bonilla lie his Latino a** off for his president on CSPAN today on Washington Journal? I can’t wait until the REAL A-TEAM Democratic sponsored “grilling” starts. And I think Bush (on video-link like Clinton did), Blanco, and Nagin should be invited too - like they did with the United Nations recently - they can’t force them to show up due to state’s sovereignty. Let’s not just beat the hell out of Brownie (as he needs to be).
Spooky
September 28th, 2005 at 9:35 amI-RIGHT-I,
Gives us one logical and plausible reason why your totally disingenious opinions should be taken seriously? What did you mean by Naygro for Mayor Ray Nagin? Was that a cloaked racist remark? Einstien, the FBI has been on a holy crusade for last 20 years going after state and city governments for corruption. Guess what? Rhode Island, New Jersey, and Connecticut has yielded the MOTHERLOAD! Connecticut’s Republican governor is chilling his corrupt heals in a PA federal prison right now! So How do you reckon that LA is so dam corrupt these days? The only latest LA official under FBI indictment is a LA Dept of Homeland Security guy - wasn’t he a right-wing person like you? Why do people keep saying NOLA is so dam corrupt? That was the old days during the corrupt Gov. Edwards regime. Blanco and Nagin don’t have one local or federal corruption rap or investigation against them. Why? Because they are squeaky clean Einstien! We need to look at your corrupt president for lying about WMD’s (and other things) to invade a soviergn country on totally false pretenses! I can’t begin to count the international crimes and corruption charges Mr. Bush would be up on if someone on the left had the balls to bring up presidential impeachment charges.
Spooky
September 28th, 2005 at 9:48 amI-Right-I,
You’re going to find yourself on the wrong side of the facts and history. There was a whislte blower for FEMA who secretly recorded all the pre-landfall meetings with locals and FEMA. You’re just plain wrong.
September 28th, 2005 at 9:56 amI-RIGHT-I,
You said: “Brown had it right when he stated that Louisiana is dysfunctional.” Prove it…
Brown had NOTHING right during the hearings. Not only was he being asked softball questions cloaked as hardball questions, Brownie also was answering the question as if he were a lawyer or something! He was being obtuse and was trying to use disarming comments with disingenious smiles and nods. He used a lot of flowery legalistic non-responsive language his lawyer briefed him on before the hearing. It was lot like the John Roberts hearing. You know “talking points” instead of real answers. Brownie should have come to the meeting contrite and repentant. His brassy “f*** all of you” attitude is going to burn him in the end. This just shows that he is a big fake-resume lying phoney Bush chronie. Imcompetent people always show their “Peter Principles” when their back is against the wall. They get very defensive and finger-pointy like a octopus on steroids. “Oh no no no… Mr. Shays I take UMBERAGE with your remarks…. I didn’t do it… that stupid New Orleans mayor did it!” Shays sends a NeCon mental-telepathy signal to Brownie: “Shut up you fool I’m just throwing softballs at you so f****** idiot!”
Spooky
September 28th, 2005 at 10:00 amHere’s the damn Aug 27th letter, Mikey. Stop the BS. New Orleans = Orleans parish (as well as the other parishes she supposedly excluded). Brown committed perjury.
August 27, 2005
The President
The White House
Washington, D. C.
Through:
Regional Director
FEMA Region VI
800 North Loop 288
Denton, Texas 76209
Dear Mr. President:
Under the provisions of Section 501 (a) of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFR § 206.35, I request that you declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina for the time period beginning August 26, 2005, and continuing. The affected areas are all the southeastern parishes including the New Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate I-49 corridor and northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are accepting the thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be flooded as a result of Hurricane Katrina.
…snip
September 28th, 2005 at 10:02 amI-RIGHT-I,
You said: “Brown had it right when he stated that Louisiana is dysfunctional.†Prove it…
All the proof you need is in the history books and was on the nightly news during the flood. I guess you don’t know anything about Louisiana. It for lack of a better description is a third world country. It’s Mexico with a darker tint. It’s Rwanda without the cannibalism. It’s the US Postal Service with better gumbo.
September 28th, 2005 at 10:08 amThe Doofus Exemption
Last time we looked, the statues governing Contempt of Congress or Perjury do not have a “Doofus Exemption.” So former FEMA chief Mike Brown (who is still getting paid) should be brought up on charges for blatantly lying to Congressional…
September 28th, 2005 at 10:18 amI posted this last night but somehow it has disappeared.
Here is some evidence that proves Brownie is guilty of prejury. These are posts I made early in September where I mapped the counties and parishes listed in each of the emergency declarations.
FEMA fucked up and left out all the coast line parishes in Louisiana off the Aug 27th declaration and then it covered it self on the Aug 29th declaration to included.
Each of the posted stories has links back to actual declarations on the White House.gov site.
Enjoy:
Here are the postings of the all the declarations and the maps showing the counties and parishes cover in them.
Please check them out and see that Brown screwed up on these big time!
Map of Louisiana Parishes Listed in FEMA Declaration of Emergency–Aug 27th
http://www.digitalmediatree.com/ library/ image/ 14/ femadeclaration.gif
Map of Louisiana–29th
Statement on Federal Disaster Assistance for Louisiana
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2005/ 08/ 20050829-2.html
http://www.digitalmediatree.com/…ge/14/ fema2.gif
Mapping FEMA Statement of Emergency Statements
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20…9/8/12240/ 27735
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Thu Sep 8th, 2005 at 09:24:00 PDT
“It contains the maps for each state for each FEMA Statement of Emergency.
It show that Louisiana Coastal and Delta parishes were not included in FEMA Aug 27th Statement of Emergency. It was not until the 29th after Katrina hit Louisiana that they were included.
Augusta 27th Governor Blanco asks President to Declare an Emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina. http://www.gov.state.la.us/ Press_Release_detail.asp?id=976
Below are the mapping of the counties listed in the FEMA Statements of Disasters on Augusta 27, 28 and 29th.
Note that the Louisiana coastal and delta parishes are added to the statements on Augusta 29th. These parishes are not in the Augusta 27th FEMA Statement of Emergency.
They were not included in the Augusta 27th FEMA Statement of Emergency. Why?
Did this omission stop resources to New Orleans? Did Americans die because Louisiana parishes in the path of Katrina were not in the Augusta 27th FEMA Declaration?â€
Who screwed-up first?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20…/9/7/1791/ 96325
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Wed Sep 7th, 2005 at 14:09:01 PDT
“We have a factual problem here about Bush’s FEMA Declaration of Emergency. None of the Loiusiana coastal parishes are included in declaration. In fact, none that are in Katina’s path are included. This declaration has nothing to do with Katrina. It is about the parishes affect by Cindy two months before.â€
Here is a posting by Chicagochamp that is based on my above postings.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20…9/8/121234/ 1941
FEMA - wrong parishes- I think this is a BIG DEAL
by chicagochamp [Subscribe]
Thu Sep 8th, 2005 at 09:12:34 PDT
“What’s interesting is that FEMA seems to simply have copied the release for hurricane Cindy, without changing the counties.
September 28th, 2005 at 10:40 amThanks for the quote, Spudge Boy. Kind of ambiguous, isn’t it?? HA!!!!!!
This guy is just an asshole, which qualifies him for a post in the Bush administration all by itself. I can’t believe he’s getting away with such utterly fraudulent testimony. That’s our Congress in action!
September 28th, 2005 at 10:44 amCould the president’s exclusion of those parishes have anything to do with the fact that they are largely Democratic, whereas the parishes that he named, which were not affected by Katrina, are largely Republican? Were the Busheviks channeling that easy FEMA money to their supporters?
Or were they setting up the locals to take the fall even before the storm hit? That’s what George senior did with Andrew. He blamed the feds’ slow response on the fact that locals had not filed the proper paperwork. The locals claimed that when they were begging Poppy Bush for assistance, they were never told there were “proper” forms that needed to be filed.
September 28th, 2005 at 10:53 amI wonder how many of us using this forum would still be working (and receiving the same salary) if we screwed up as bad as Brownie did?
I know I wouldn’t receive a “Mulligan” for such inept performance.
September 28th, 2005 at 11:06 amMikey,
Will you just stop? You’re engaging in exactly the kind of tortured thinking that the right wing uses to obscure issues. Is this missing piece important? If so, tell me how. Sounds to me like it might mean that Brown is right, that her 2nd declaration didn’t specifically mention Orleans Parish. BUT THE FIRST ONE DID!!!!!!!! So it’s a moot point.
Blanco’s letter “prompted a request for clarification”?? Isn’t that a sign of foot-dragging and not exculpatory at all?
“You mean that hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico? The one that is heading for New Orleans? So you are limiting your request to just that area and Jefferson Parish and Placquemines Parish, or do you mean the general southeastern Louisiana area, or all of southern Louisiana, or none of the above? Please get back to us at your earliest convenience. I’ll be in the office until 5:00. If I don’t hear from you, I’ll assume it’s none of the above. Hit ‘em straight!”
September 28th, 2005 at 11:10 amLyle (#30)
Completely beside the point.
September 28th, 2005 at 11:12 amChertoff did not fund FEMA properly. Jeepers, man!
September 28th, 2005 at 11:14 amPeople like Brownie need public punishment just like they do in Saudi Arabia or we do in Abu Ghareb. We need to respect the “values” of Bush admin and it’s allies.
September 28th, 2005 at 11:20 amThe links in my above post seem to have been broken when pasting them into these comments. Here I have tried to correct them:
Here is some evidence that proves Brownie is guilty of prejury. These are posts I made early in September where I mapped the counties and parishes listed in each of the emergency declarations.
FEMA fucked up and left out all the coast line parishes in Louisiana off the Aug 27th declaration and then it covered it self on the Aug 29th declaration to included.
Each of the posted stories has links back to actual declarations on the White House.gov site.
Enjoy:
Here are the postings of the all the declarations and the maps showing the counties and parishes cover in them.
Please check them out and see that Brown screwed up on these big time!
Governor’s Request to FEMA:
http://www.gov.state.la.us/ Press_Release_detail.asp?id=976
Aug 27th
FEMA Response:
Map of Louisiana Parishes Listed in FEMA Declaration of Emergency–Aug 27th
http://www.digitalmediatree.com/ library/ image/ 14/ femadeclaration.gif
Statement on Federal Emergency Assistance for Louisiana
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2005/ 08/ 20050827-1.html
Aug 29th
Statement on Federal Disaster Assistance for Louisiana
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2005/ 08/ 20050829-2.html
Map of Louisiana–29th
http://www.digitalmediatree.com/library/image/14/fema2.gif
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Mapping FEMA Statement of Emergency Statements
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/8/12240/27735
by EasyRider [Subscribe] [Edit Diary]
Thu Sep 8th, 2005 at 09:24:00 PDT
“It contains the maps for each state for each FEMA Statement of Emergency.
It show that Louisiana Coastal and Delta parishes were not included in FEMA Aug 27th Statement of Emergency. It was not until the 29th after Katrina hit Louisiana that they were included.
Augusta 27th Governor Blanco asks President to Declare an Emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina.
http://www.gov.state.la.us/ Press_Release_detail.asp?id=976
Below are the mapping of the counties listed in the FEMA Statements of Disasters on Augusta 27, 28 and 29th.
Note that the Louisiana coastal and delta parishes are added to the statements on Augusta 29th. These parishes are not in the Augusta 27th FEMA Statement of Emergency.
They were not included in the Augusta 27th FEMA Statement of Emergency. Why?
Did this omission stop resources to New Orleans? Did Americans die because Louisiana parishes in the path of Katrina were not in the Augusta 27th FEMA Declaration?â€
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Who screwed-up first?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/7/1791/96325
by EasyRider [Subscribe] [Edit Diary]
Wed Sep 7th, 2005 at 14:09:01 PDT
“We have a factual problem here about Bush’s FEMA Declaration of Emergency. None of the Loiusiana coastal parishes are included in declaration. In fact, none that are in Katina’s path are included. This declaration has nothing to do with Katrina. It is about the parishes affect by Cindy two months before.â€
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Here is a posting by Chicagochamp that is based on my above postings.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/8/121234/1941
FEMA - wrong parishes- I think this is a BIG DEAL
by chicagochamp [Subscribe]
Thu Sep 8th, 2005 at 09:12:34 PDT
“What’s interesting is that FEMA seems to simply have copied the release for hurricane Cindy, without changing the counties.
September 28th, 2005 at 11:38 amAn under-reported aspect of the Michael Brown story is the comparison of FEMA’s 2004 performance in hurricane-ravaged Florida with its 2005 Katrina disaster.
What a difference a year makes, especially when it’s an election year in a swing state governed by the President’s brother. From millions in FEMA payouts in Miami-Dade County (not hit by the four hurricanes) to paying for hundreds of non-storm related funerals statewide, Michael Brown’s FEMA helped carry Florida for Bush in 2004.
For the details, see:
“FEMA: Florida Election Management Agency.”
September 28th, 2005 at 11:40 amDon’t you folks play chess?
Brownie is being sacrificed, pure and simple. He is “throwing himself on his sword.” However, since the Republicans lack any understanding of “honor” he is not doing it by going up there and admitting that he totally and completely screwed up, and that he shouldn’t have had the job he had, that he wouldn’t have had his job if he hadn’t raised money for Bush, and that the administration wasn’t listening to him because they didn’t care about the situation, understand the magnitude, or believe in the mission of FEMA beyond gathering votes in Florida in 2004. Instead, he goes up there lying, so he can be CAUGHT LYING and be appropriately punished.
When the cases are finally settled, and all appeals exhausted (while, of course, Brownie will stay out of the slammer and keep raking in Government money), and IF the White House feels they have the political capital to do it, then Bush will provide him with a Presidential Pardon at some point before leaving office. There will be lucrative contracts for consulting and services on the back end. Mr. Brown will be “looked after” as any crime family looks after those who take the fall.
The idea is for the press and the investigation to focus exclusively on Brown so that the “American Public” (as spun by the MSM and the WH) will believe that HE was the problem, rather than an out-of-touch Republican administration and rampant, corrupt cronyism throughout the government.
And, I suspect it will work. It usually does.
Charlie L
September 28th, 2005 at 1:22 pmPOrtland, OR
CLL2001@gmail.com
You clearly don’t know how independent investigations work. The republicans do, that’s why they’re fighting one. The last time we had an