Religious Right ‘Too Busy to Comment’ on Pat Robertson, Quick to DeLay’s Defense
Religious Right ‘Too Busy to Comment’ on Pat Robertson, Quick to DeLay’s Defense
Prominent Religious Right groups went days without saying a word in defense of Pat Robertson after his assassination gaffe.
But when Tom DeLay gets in trouble, the response is immediate. Clearly, people like James Dobson and Tony Perkins know where their bread is buttered. When DeLay gets hurt, so does their right-wing agenda.
Family Research Council
Robertson: No comment.
DeLay: “Tom DeLay is a great leader for pro-family public policies of enduring importance to the nation.”
Focus on the Family
Robertson: No comment.
DeLay: “Today’s indictment of Majority Leader Tom DeLay bears all the signs of a trumped-up, political witch-hunt. The extreme left has seized this chance to take a swipe at one of America’s leading advocates of family values.”
Traditional Values Coalition
Robertson: No comment.
DeLay: DeLay is “a Christian man” and prosecutor Ronnie Earle is exacting “political retribution.”
Christian Coalition of America
Robertson: No comment.
DeLay: “Yesterday’s indictment of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay on an unsubstantiated charge of conspiracy… [has] been a major objective for the past several years of the extreme left wing and enthusiastically supported by their sychophants in the ‘Old Media.’”
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Their warlords rape children in front of their parents.
September 29th, 2005 at 3:27 pmAnd we are about to see the pictures, Patriot.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001218842
September 29th, 2005 at 3:29 pmPerhaps the Religious Right would like to weigh in on Tom Delay’s own comparison of himself to Jesus.
September 29th, 2005 at 3:30 pmI would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching His name to that book (the Bible).
Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses. Here is an order, attributed to ‘God’ to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and to debauch and rape the daughters. I would not dare so dishonor my Creator’s name by (attaching) it to this filthy book (the Bible).
It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible.
Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins…and you will have sins in abundance.
The Christian church has set up a religion of pomp and revenue in pretended imitation of a person (Jesus) who lived a life of poverty.
Thomas Paine, Founding Father
September 29th, 2005 at 3:33 pmDRY UP AND BLOW AWAY, AVENGING ANGEL
September 29th, 2005 at 3:33 pmTerry wants to blow you.
September 29th, 2005 at 3:35 pmThe issue is this: will the matter be settled in a court or on Fox News? Reality is as simple as that.
September 29th, 2005 at 3:37 pm“U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld revealed Friday that videos and ‘a lot more pictures’ exist of the abuse of Iraqis held at Abu Ghraib prison.
“‘If these are released to the public, obviously it’s going to make matters worse,’ Rumsfeld told the Senate Armed Services Committee. ‘I mean, I looked at them last night, and they’re hard to believe.’
“The embattled defense secretary fielded sharp and skeptical questions from lawmakers as he testified about the growing prisoner abuse scandal. A military report about that abuse describes detainees being threatened, sodomized with a chemical light and forced into sexually humiliating poses.
“Charges have been brought against seven service members, and investigations into events at the prison continue.
“Military investigators have looked into — or are continuing to investigate — 35 cases of alleged abuse or deaths of prisoners in detention facilities in the Central Command theater, according to Army Secretary Les Brownlee. Two of those cases were deemed homicides, he said.
“‘The American public needs to understand we’re talking about rape and murder here. We’re not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience,’ Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told reporters after Rumsfeld testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee. ‘We’re talking about rape and murder — and some very serious charges.’
“A report by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba on the abuse at the prison outside Baghdad says videotapes and photographs show naked detainees, and that groups of men were forced to masturbate while being photographed and videotaped. Taguba also found evidence of a ‘male MP guard having sex with a female detainee.’
“Rumsfeld told Congress the unrevealed photos and videos contain acts ‘that can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel and inhuman.’”
The military later screened some of the images for lawmakers, who said they showed, among other things, attack dogs snarling at cowed prisoners, Iraqi women forced to expose their breasts, and naked prisoners forced to have sex with each other.
In the same period, reporter Seymour Hersh, who helped uncover the scandal, said in a speech before an ACLU convention: “Some of the worse that happened that you don’t know about, ok? Videos, there are women there. Some of you may have read they were passing letters, communications out to their men … . The women were passing messages saying ‘Please come and kill me, because of what’s happened.’
“Basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys/children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. The worst about all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror it’s going to come out.”
Terry can’t wait to see them. He’s gonna get wood.
September 29th, 2005 at 3:39 pmThe issue has been decided. That’s why the last minute change from Dreier, a placeholder who can be easily bumped on the off chance DeKay is cleared, to Blunt, who is there for good. Blunt’s not stepping aside. Who gives a rat’s ass if DeKay is guilty or not? His political career is over. Period.
September 29th, 2005 at 3:42 pmhow do they know the charges are unsubstatiated?
September 29th, 2005 at 3:42 pm$$?
Seriously, everyone. what is anyone acting surprised?
there’s already talk of–get this–charging the charger, Earle, with “misconduct”. i’m sure he’s about to endure the worst tax audit of his life. he’ll be stopped for going 1 mph over the limit. every pic of him is about to be photoshopped with either Satan or Dean in the backgroung.
these bastards will do whatever, legal or otherwise, to ruin this man. i’m not surprised as much as i am feeling like i’m living in a 3rd-world country
September 29th, 2005 at 3:43 pmThis is not how it is supposed to be. I am so ashamed of my government. I cannot believe this has happened at Abu Ghraib. I cannot believe the MSM has not covered it. I am sick to my stomach.
September 29th, 2005 at 3:44 pmThese people think Tom Delay is a real Christian? Bwa Ha Ha Ha.
September 29th, 2005 at 3:47 pmThey aren’t people. They’re monsters. All of them.
September 29th, 2005 at 3:49 pmThey sound like characters out of Alice in Wonderland. No, more like kids in Go Ask Alice.
I guess their stuff is better than mine….
September 29th, 2005 at 3:58 pmThere’s no need for these PACs to comment on Robertson’s comment. He got it right. WWJA, who would Jesus assassinate?
Hehe.
September 29th, 2005 at 4:06 pmAh yes, religion, the opiate of the people. These perverse anti-christ religious paraders wouldn’t know a Christian if Christ himself was in their midst. They support the hipocrite, Delay, because they are afraid that one of their names will be connected. I beleive Ralph Reid was already mentioned, as fliting too close to the flame of Delay’s candle.
I’d like to know how much each of these Christian organizations contributed to hurricane relief over the past several weeks. The answers may force a debate on their Christian attitude and lack of compassion. It might shead some light on their family values for the next election and there after.
September 29th, 2005 at 4:10 pmhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1493716/posts
Like I said, Republicans will hit back and hit back hard. As usual, you idiots are starting a fight you can’t win.
September 29th, 2005 at 4:13 pmLike I said, Ned, you troll, time to take your medication.
I hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes of fame, its over.
September 29th, 2005 at 4:22 pmOoooh! 400 FReepazoids will demonstrate on Sunday!
September 29th, 2005 at 4:24 pmNeddy, if Reid really is guilty (and I’d take anything from the Freepers with several very large grains of salt) then you can have him. I’m happy to get rid of the crooks in both parties.
September 29th, 2005 at 4:26 pmLook at the FReepazoid quick and massive response!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1493158/posts
September 29th, 2005 at 4:28 pmFree Republic – bahahaha
Anyone desperate enough to post a link to ANYTHING on that site is clearly insane. That’s filled with only the most stupid and hateful fascists in america. They haven’t printed a fact in years, other than those they attempt to smear and lie about.
As for this ‘charge’, did anyone notice that Reid donated money to the church, not the other way around? For there to be ‘bribery’ usually you get something in exchange. In this case Reid was involved with giving money to an organization he thought was doing good work. He donated his own personal money to them. The fact that free republicans would be so desperate and DELUSIONAL to think this is even similar to the DeathStar enron money laundering scheme of Delay’s is LAUGHABLE!
WHAT RETARDED FOOLS!!!
Bahahaha!!!!
Wow, you poor cowards sure are stupid and desperate! When you actually have something that’s logical to claim about someone that you haven’t fabricated out of thin air – come see us. Until then.
REPUBLICANS ARE LOSERS…
REPUBLICANS ARE LIARS…
REPUBLICANS ARE THEIFS…
REPUBLICANS ARE CHEATS…
REPUBLICANS ARE KILLERS…
REPUBLICANS ARE HYPOCRITS…
REPUBLICANS ARE IMMORAL…
REPUBLICANS ARE PROPAGANDISTS…
REPUBLICANS ARE SCAMMERS…
REPUBLICANS ARE COWARDS…
REPUBLICANS ARE MORONS!!!!
BAHAHAHA
September 29th, 2005 at 4:29 pmGary,
It’s a nonsensical charge. Where’s the money reid accepted – their charges weren’t even logical!
September 29th, 2005 at 4:30 pmNed enjoys abuse. I can’t see any other reason for him to keep coming back for more.
I suspect it came from his incarceration. He was EVERYONES favorite bitch, and he ended up liking it.
Go away neddy you twit.
September 29th, 2005 at 4:31 pmNED! Back on yer MEDS! NOW! Or I will get the butter fly net! I mean it!
September 29th, 2005 at 4:32 pmIt’s a nonsensical charge. Where’s the money reid accepted – their charges weren’t even logical!
I’ll take your word. I just glanced at it quickly and then closed the window; didn’t want to catch anything contagious. :)
September 29th, 2005 at 4:35 pmApparently if you’re a “Christian man” all is forgiven just cuz.
September 29th, 2005 at 4:37 pmTWO NEWS FLASHES JUST IN:
Vice President Cheney has directed his knee surgeon to call in two consultants. Col. Steve Austin and Jaimie Wagner. According to a confidential source in light of the Delay downfall the Vice President is getting prepared to do some fancy dancing, some high jumping, and some fast running.
An unidentified person was seen boarding Air Force One this afternoon. Shortly after takeoff AF1 filed a flight plan for Riyadh.
Check out the details at
http://www.storytimedolls.net/mmff.html
September 29th, 2005 at 4:53 pmAs usual, the Religious Right is wrong, self serving, petty, narrow-minded, and otherwise completely ignorant of that which Jesus Himself did, said, and thought.
These folks are no better than the Taliban or certain Rabbis or the Saudi Royal Family.
September 29th, 2005 at 5:09 pmBe careful, folks. Get ready!
September 29th, 2005 at 8:18 pmWhen the fascist parasites get
pushed too far, they’ll produce
more “terrorists” and BLAMMO, there
goes ALL of your LIBERTY.
If any pictures or movies of child rape go public, it is all over for these guys. Most of the American sheep may be easy to fool and pacify but if you “go there”, the shit will hit the fan big time. Images are EVERYTHING in America.
September 29th, 2005 at 8:33 pmOrganized religion is at the root of evil.
September 29th, 2005 at 8:46 pmDidn’t Jesus preach something about going into a closet to pray alone, rather than be seen as pretentious?
These guys need a reminder of the seven deadly sins as they are guilty of the sin of avarice. They are so concerned with their own wealth and benefit that they will defend a snake like Delay because they know which side their bread is buttered. Robertson is merely a nut case.
They are disgraceful, certainly un-Christian, and otherwise a group of the worst sinners among us — they have influence on the lives of many and their lies, their greed, their hypocrisy is despicable.
Evil people are evil with or without organized religion.
September 29th, 2005 at 10:31 pmPrayer is in the heart, yes. That’s what Jesus said. Then Paul said go be evangelical. It confuses Christians.
September 29th, 2005 at 10:34 pm#35, hmmm. That is confusing. Except “Christian” is based upon “Christ” so shouldn’t his admonitions take precedence over Paul?
September 29th, 2005 at 10:36 pmWhen I was Christian, I thought 2 things about Paul. 1, He was a symbol of a Jew converting to Jesus. Saul=Paul. or 2, he was a false prophet.
September 29th, 2005 at 10:41 pmNowadays I see him as the first ever televangelist/con artist. Paul is how modern families model their family systems. It’s gross.
I prefer the gnostic gospels. To me the reveal why christianity was such a powerful force in the early centuries. The choice rome made of 4 unnamed, unauthenticated and unsigned manuscripts as the ‘4 gospels’ I think was a poor choice. Many of the other gnostic texts were better written and more ‘authentic’ in their message from my perspective. And giving each a name of an apostle was just sleazy…
It’s interesting as well, because in the Gnostic Gospels, mary had a much more critical role. Clearly she was the chosen disciple and not paul. It could explain why he was such a frightful and bitter man – having been slighted by the choice of a woman…
Seems like he must have been a CONservative – those ‘family values’ sexist hate filled genes run deep in most cultures…
Also many of the gnostic texts refer to the ‘true goddess’ who was the creator, and that the god of the jews is a fraud. This is of course in reference to Asherah – who was the original ‘goddess’ that most middle easterners (including the jews) worshipped originally. Moses and subsequent generations of Rabbi attempted to purge the records of her – but some references have survived. In particular references to ‘worship on the mountain’ refer to practices of goddess worship.
Of course christians like to believe the word was handed from Jesus, but he never actually wrote anything down. All of the written documents apparently occurred much later, and are thorougly unauthenticated. And different individual churches even had radically different ‘versions’ of the supposed same doctrines. That’s why the ‘catholic’ church tried to ‘create’ (eg. fabricate) a bible in the 4th century and kill everyone and destroy every document that didn’t submit to the standard teachings. Quite a bloodthirsty and ‘unchristian’ lot they were…
September 30th, 2005 at 1:45 amI prefer the gnostic gospels.
comment by Ryan “I once visited a Seminary” Neat
That’s because the Word of God is a closed book to you and that’s why it doesn’t make any sense to you. Of course you’d read the heresies.
You probably read comics instead of the classic “boys” books like Huck Finn, Treasure Island, and Penthouse Forum. That’s why you’re stupid and my guess is it’s why you’re a homosexual.
September 30th, 2005 at 8:24 amIt’s open season, baby! No bag limit! We are going to hunt you into extinction, or are you gonna become a tree-hugging environmentalist and conservationist screaming for endangered species status first. I hear you screaming already, bitch.
September 30th, 2005 at 8:34 amIt’s open season, baby! No bag limit! We are going to hunt you into extinction
comment by KillCon
Oh yeah. But first loser you gots to learn what end a da gun da bullet done come out. Dumbass.
September 30th, 2005 at 8:47 am“Fire and Force, Fist and Faith, let our friends draw strength from us and our enemies trembleâ€
September 30th, 2005 at 8:50 amDude,
I been firing weapons since before you were born, and not just for fun.
September 30th, 2005 at 8:51 amAnd Ted Nugent is a homo.
September 30th, 2005 at 8:53 amPunditocracy and Preacher-types (See also Media Whores Online)
September 30th, 2005 at 8:57 amGeorge Will, did not serve
Chris Matthews, Mediawhore, did not serve.
Bill O’Reilly, did not serve
Paul Gigot, did not serve.
Bill Bennett, Did not serve
Pat Buchanan, did not serve
Rush Limbaugh, did not serve (4-F with a ‘pilonidal cyst’ [see "The Rush Limbaugh Story" by Paul D. Colford, St. Martin's Press, 1993, Chapter 2: Beating the Draft.])
Michael Savage (aka Michael Alan Weiner) – did not serve, too busy chasing herbs and botany degrees in Hawaii and Fiji
John Wayne, did not serve
Pat Robertson – claimed during 1986 campaign to be a “combat veteran.” In reality, was a “Liquor Officer.”
Bill Kristol, did not serve
Sean Hannity, did not serve.
Kenneth Starr, did not serve
Antonin Scalia, did not serve
Clarence Thomas, did not serve
Ralph Reed, did not serve
Michael Medved, did not serve
Charlie Daniels, did not serve
Ted Nugent, did not serve Radio Host Phil Hendrie, did not serve.
If I lived next door to you i-righty-i I would consider it my Christian duty to crush your skull, bone smugling, candy ass, rightwing pussy. Why are all of your leaders faggots and cowards half dick?
September 30th, 2005 at 8:58 amOh yeah. But first loser you gots to learn what end a da gun da bullet done come out. Dumbass.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 30, 2005 @ 8:47 am
You’d shake like a leaf and wet yourself if you ever had to hold a loaded gun on another human being.
September 30th, 2005 at 8:59 amIt does get easier with practice, like anything else, but something tells me you’ve never had any practice at all.
September 30th, 2005 at 9:02 amIt does get easier with practice, like anything else, but something tells me you’ve never had any practice at all.
Comment by Kill Whitey Now!
Something tells me you do it for a living. Negro ain’t ya?
September 30th, 2005 at 9:27 amLike the list, KillCon Now!
September 30th, 2005 at 9:42 amIf I lived next door to you i-righty-i I would consider it my Christian duty to crush your skull, bone smugling, candy ass, rightwing pussy. Why are all of your leaders faggots and cowards half dick?
Comment by Trace IRI and crush (Kill (Whitey)Con Now)
Killer…We don’t allow your kind in my neighborhood. If you even get lost and cross the line Tom DeLay’s private police force profiles you, pulls you over and beats the shit out of you just for being stupid. If you give them any of your fat lip they just shoot you and throw down a gun.
September 30th, 2005 at 9:42 amYou need a job I-RIGHT-I. Do you work?
September 30th, 2005 at 9:43 am“Tom DeLay’s private police force profiles you”
These are folks who truly admire villainous imagery. This is comic book level imagination/fantasy. I’ll bet you’re a real sicko, I-RIGHT-I.
September 30th, 2005 at 9:49 amSomething tells me you do it for a living. Negro ain’t ya?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 30, 2005 @ 9:27 am
Much worse. I’m a white race traitor.
September 30th, 2005 at 9:50 amComment by Trace IRI and crush (Kill (Whitey)Con Now)
No. That wasn’t me. That was probaby you.
September 30th, 2005 at 9:52 amAnd if it wasn’t you, I’d hold his coat.
September 30th, 2005 at 9:54 amAnd if it wasn’t you, I’d hold his coat.
Comment by KillCon Now!
Shine his shoes while you’re at it.
September 30th, 2005 at 10:15 amNo! Shine my shoes! They are bigger! And smell my daisy! It squirts!
September 30th, 2005 at 11:05 amThese are folks who truly admire villainous imagery. This is comic book level imagination/fantasy. I’ll bet you’re a real sicko, I-RIGHT-I.
Comment by Patriot
You’re really to stupid to respond to most of the time. It’s no crime to hang a traitor. It’s no sin to imagine you and yours doing the air dance. Look to any “peace” protest for villianous imagery. Not only that but villainous, insane, violent and criminal behavior. Those are your people I’m talking about. That’s what you call “patriotism”.
Institute the Sedition Act of 1918 Now! We’ll have the whole lot of you dancing above the streets!
September 30th, 2005 at 2:37 pmBy the sedition act of 1918, Diebold and the whole republican machine would go to jail. Sounds like a good act to employ – lets start with jailing you, you treasonous bastard!
September 30th, 2005 at 3:35 pmGood heavens…glad I wore my thick-soled boots! The vitriol puddles on the floor are getting deeper. I’ll mince around their edges (that’s what we pussy-footing liberals do) in order to address my point.
When it became apparent that the Chief of the Counterfeit Compassionate Conservative And Oh Yeah By The Way Conspicuously Caucasian Caucus and his Dither of Dolts had ushered in an era when the XianXrazies felt empowered to impose their vision of virtue on the rest of us, I, at 71 and a long-time believer, formed my own schismatic Church of the Apologetic Apprentice Christian. Membership one; no proselytizing permitted; one commandment: Love ye then one another; greatest duty: care for the poor and most vulnerable among us.
The “apologetic” I felt necessary because the XianXrazies have been less than kind to unbelievers and to believers of other “flavors”. Personally, I never thought God ran a restricted club or needed to gather followers by draft or impressment — He simply leaves the door open for those who choose to enter, but does not despise or hate those who do not.
The “apprentice” because … well, let’s face it: in over 2000 years we may have turned out a journeyman or two, but there’s been only one Master Practitioner, and we rather ungratefully tacked Him to a cross.
I have two rules of thumb regarding prophets: I turn a deaf ear to the obese ones — lack of restraint in feeding doesn’t seem to me consonant with godliness — which means Robertson’s jowls alone are enough to assure I don’t hear him. The other rule is that very probably no one who consider himself qualifed to preach virtue to anyone else actually is qualified. It’s that troublesome spiritual pride thingy. (And yes, I do recognize that by saying that, I show I have a goodly and blameable portion of that pride myself.)
And I have a further litmus test: Performance, not profession — or, in more familiar terms, “show me, don’t tell me”.
Mumbling pieties is not the same thing as having or practicing faith.
October 2nd, 2005 at 9:54 pmDefending the idiot zealot robertson would not do them any good politically.
Defending this zealot corrupt group of thugs in power helps them to push their agendas to the top.
They know where the bread is buttered.
If delay was involved in oral sex, they would jump to his defense also.
These so called christians have a fimer grip on politics than reality.
October 3rd, 2005 at 1:36 amI’m not sure where I heard this but I’m going to find
October 10th, 2005 at 4:06 pmout if it is a fact.
I heard that Pat Robertson was enroute to Korea during
the Korean war.His ship stopped in Honolulu to unload
some freight. Robertson got off the ship,called his old man who was a congressman or U.S. senator and asked him to get a soft job for him to keep him out of
combat. I got the biography on Robertson,he had a place
to click on his military records and I got
a page saying
try again. If it was an honorable record I would have gotten the records.
Does anyone out there know about this? If you do,give
me a call,( reverse the charges ). 505- 299- 2424
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