Comments on: Rumsfeld on insurgent infiltration of Iraqi forces: http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/ Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:57:11 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Darth Filibustrous http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-154229 Darth Filibustrous Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:48:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-154229 I know, and how about those murderous neo-cons INFILTRATING our government ? I know, and how about those murderous neo-cons INFILTRATING our government ?

]]> By: pierre http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-154192 pierre Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:26:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-154192 The general consensus is to fire the Bushies and everything would be fine. WRONG!... We need to prosecute and incarcerate the bastards and throw the key away... ok, so we don't use keys any longer!... Better yet, how about the electric chair?... Or better yet, lynching at high noon in the Rose Garden of the White House!... That might disturb the lunch crowd but, hey, it would be an exciting one-time show of shows! The general consensus is to fire the Bushies and everything would be fine. WRONG!… We need to prosecute and incarcerate the bastards and throw the key away… ok, so we don’t use keys any longer!… Better yet, how about the electric chair?… Or better yet, lynching at high noon in the Rose Garden of the White House!… That might disturb the lunch crowd but, hey, it would be an exciting one-time show of shows!

]]> By: keefer http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153766 keefer Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:53:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153766 It loooks like criminals have infiltrated the Bush administration It loooks like criminals have infiltrated the Bush administration

]]> By: Roach http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153737 Roach Fri, 30 Sep 2005 01:50:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153737 "Dead enders" are crawling out of the woodwork. “Dead enders” are crawling out of the woodwork.

]]> By: Marco http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153703 Marco Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:44:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153703 Any chance Rummy can focus on getting sadomasochists, child rapists and sexual deviants to stop infiltrating our armed forces? Any chance Rummy can focus on getting sadomasochists, child rapists and sexual deviants to stop infiltrating our armed forces?

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153693 Marie Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:35:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153693 Criminals infiltrating police departments? I truly believe the man is senile. We have a family member who, for a long time, acted normally, seemed to be thinking OK for an old man, and generally fooled us. In retrospect, we see how we were unable to see the truth until it bit us in the ass and the man is now in a home. I think Rummy is at that point -- he acts normal, most of the time, but now and then he says something really stupid or irrelevant or "out there" but the fact is that he has lost his mind. It's time for the home, before he starts drooling. Criminals infiltrating police departments? I truly believe the man is senile.
We have a family member who, for a long time, acted normally, seemed to be thinking OK for an old man, and generally fooled us. In retrospect, we see how we were unable to see the truth until it bit us in the ass and the man is now in a home. I think Rummy is at that point — he acts normal, most of the time, but now and then he says something really stupid or irrelevant or “out there” but the fact is that he has lost his mind. It’s time for the home, before he starts drooling.

]]> By: Ron http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153688 Ron Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:31:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153688 Honest to God, I awoke suddenly from a dream/nightmare this morning with Donald Rumsfeld et al attempting to kill me. Another 'insider' came to my aid and killed Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Richard Perle. It seemed to me there were a couple of other people involved to. It was surreal as heck. I was in grave danger in my nightmare and was going to die by Rumsfeld's own hand. I couldn't believe the person in my dream saved my life. I thought I was a goner for sure. It all happened so fast, I was relieved when it all turned around so quickly. The defender of my life quickly gathered his electronic data device, another device that was some kind of tracking/homing apparatus and was off in a BMW. When I woke up with a startle, I wondered what it all meant. It was a nightmare of a dream. Swear to God, it all happened this morning around 3:00 AM. A dream I won't forget until the day I die. All in all, just another dream that became a nightmare. Just thought I would share it all here. Honest to God, I awoke suddenly from a dream/nightmare this morning with Donald Rumsfeld et al attempting to kill me. Another ‘insider’ came to my aid and killed Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Richard Perle. It seemed to me there were a couple of other people involved to. It was surreal as heck.

I was in grave danger in my nightmare and was going to die by Rumsfeld’s own hand. I couldn’t believe the person in my dream saved my life. I thought I was a goner for sure. It all happened so fast, I was relieved when it all turned around so quickly. The defender of my life quickly gathered his electronic data device, another device that was some kind of tracking/homing apparatus and was off in a BMW.

When I woke up with a startle, I wondered what it all meant. It was a nightmare of a dream. Swear to God, it all happened this morning around 3:00 AM. A dream I won’t forget until the day I die. All in all, just another dream that became a nightmare.

Just thought I would share it all here.

]]> By: Jane E. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153624 Jane E. Schneider Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:39:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153624 No wonder Kurt Vonnegut said (on TDS w/Jon Stewart) that Bush wasn't the stupidest person in this administration, Rummy is! I, too, want what he's on! No wonder Kurt Vonnegut said (on TDS w/Jon Stewart) that Bush wasn’t the stupidest person in this administration, Rummy is!

I, too, want what he’s on!

]]> By: cynical ex-hippie http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153617 cynical ex-hippie Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:28:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153617 For some real fun, next time you get pulled over for speeding, tell the officer, "So I guess al Qaeda infiltrated our police, too." For some real fun, next time you get pulled over for speeding, tell the officer, “So I guess al Qaeda infiltrated our police, too.”

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153613 WaltTheMan Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:23:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153613 #31 It was Bremmer (The Brownie of the Occupation, or is Brownie the Bremmer of emergency management?) who disbanded the Iraqi army, stood down civil law enforcement and disenfranchised the Sunni Baath party which, in turn, fueled the insurgency. With those credentials, I would have to drop a lit match into the National Petroleum Reserve in order to qualify for a Medal of Freedom. #31
It was Bremmer (The Brownie of the Occupation, or is Brownie the Bremmer of emergency management?) who disbanded the Iraqi army, stood down civil law enforcement and disenfranchised the Sunni Baath party which, in turn, fueled the insurgency.

With those credentials, I would have to drop a lit match into the National Petroleum Reserve in order to qualify for a Medal of Freedom.

]]> By: Amazed http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153610 Amazed Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:16:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153610 It's common knowledge that police academies typically recruit at local prisons, because no one else wants to join law enforcement. What a clown. It’s common knowledge that police academies typically recruit at local prisons, because no one else wants to join law enforcement.

What a clown.

]]> By: kevo http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153598 kevo Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:50:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153598 Maybe you shouldn't have disbanded the Iraqi Army after the invasion? Just sayin'... Maybe you shouldn’t have disbanded the Iraqi Army after the invasion? Just sayin’…

]]> By: spyder http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153588 spyder Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:41:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153588 there is something that makes his comment even more startling however. Much of the problem in the Iraqi security forces is the wholesale inclusion of militias who have been led, trained, funded, and resourced by the Iranians. This certainly is the issue in Basra and all over the northeast. Thus, if we follow RumDum's logic our local police and sheriffs are staffed now by groups who are supported by the conservative elite corporate entities that control the US government--in that the new Iraq government of which the US supports is formed from Iran oriented and supported policies and groups. Is he warning us of our eminent takeover. there is something that makes his comment even more startling however. Much of the problem in the Iraqi security forces is the wholesale inclusion of militias who have been led, trained, funded, and resourced by the Iranians. This certainly is the issue in Basra and all over the northeast. Thus, if we follow RumDum’s logic our local police and sheriffs are staffed now by groups who are supported by the conservative elite corporate entities that control the US government–in that the new Iraq government of which the US supports is formed from Iran oriented and supported policies and groups. Is he warning us of our eminent takeover.

]]> By: Pragmatist http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153562 Pragmatist Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:08:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153562 That it is. Thanks for clarifying. I thought we were having a Jane Fonda moment. That it is. Thanks for clarifying. I thought we were having a Jane Fonda moment.

]]> By: Gary Kleppe http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153557 Gary Kleppe Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:05:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153557 Prag, I was speaking generally. Yes of course, what you describe are crimes. But the occupation is a bigger crime. Prag, I was speaking generally. Yes of course, what you describe are crimes. But the occupation is a bigger crime.

]]> By: Pragmatist http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153552 Pragmatist Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:58:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153552 #21 Gary: Huh? So long as your country is invaded illegally, you can legally kill innocent noncombatants? Like blow up school buses? I don't follow. #21 Gary: Huh? So long as your country is invaded illegally, you can legally kill innocent noncombatants? Like blow up school buses? I don’t follow.

]]> By: wisedup http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153548 wisedup Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:52:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153548 He just slapped all good police in the face. We'll see them in 2006 at the polls too. "Do we feel safe, well do we punk?" This geek is in charge????? He just slapped all good police in the face. We’ll see them in 2006 at the polls too. “Do we feel safe, well do we punk?” This geek is in charge?????

]]> By: MrsT http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153539 MrsT Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:41:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153539 Seems like there should be more to that article, like a description of the stunned, incredulous silence that must have greeted this statement. Really, this is hopeless. 67,000 Iraqi troops haven't been paid? Bush's "stand up, stand down" platitudes are a huge lie. Seems like there should be more to that article, like a description of the stunned, incredulous silence that must have greeted this statement. Really, this is hopeless. 67,000 Iraqi troops haven’t been paid? Bush’s “stand up, stand down” platitudes are a huge lie.

]]> By: Elvis http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153532 Elvis Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:35:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153532 They are looking for reasons to create a military state. The people thinking the police are criminals (which are true in a lot of cases), is the right place to start. Another good place to start is to relocate a ton of people, and create panic and insurgency because they are without food and/water and don’t have a home. i.e. Vietnam, Iraq, New Orleans, Texas... "States are not moral agents" -Chomsky They are looking for reasons to create a military state. The people thinking the police are criminals (which are true in a lot of cases), is the right place to start.

Another good place to start is to relocate a ton of people, and create panic and insurgency because they are without food and/water and don’t have a home. i.e. Vietnam, Iraq, New Orleans, Texas…

“States are not moral agents” -Chomsky

]]> By: Jeff http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-153530 Jeff Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:34:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/29/rumsfeld-on-insurgent-infiltration-of-iraqi-forces/#comment-153530 Rummie, rhymes with.... Rummie, rhymes with….

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