Partisan Witchhunt? Foreman of “Runaway” Grand Jury Praises DeLay
Partisan Witchhunt? Foreman of “Runaway” Grand Jury Praises DeLay
The central pillar of Tom DeLay’s defense is that Travis Country prosecutor Ronnie Earle is an “unabashed partisan,” and that DeLay is being targeted because of his political success.
But Ronnie Earle didn’t issue the indictment against Tom DeLay. A grand jury did. And as it turns out, the jury foreman William Gibson is a former sheriff’s deputy who praises DeLay specifically for his “aggressiveness.” Via Billmon, we see that Gibson spoke out yesterday:
He did his duty and that bound him to look at Tom Delay as just another Texan accused of criminal conspiracy, [Gibson] said.
“I like his aggressiveness and everything, and I had nothing against the House majority man, but I felt that we had enough evidence, not only me, but the other grand jury members,” Gibson said.
The grand jury foreman also takes great exception to accusations that he and 11 other grand jury members followed the lead of Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle instead of following the evidence.
“It was not a rubber stamp deal. It was not an overnight deal. If we needed extra information, it was provided to us,” Gibson said. …
Gibson thinks there is enough evidence to convict Delay.
“We would not have handed down an indictment. We would have no-billed the man, if we didn’t feel there was sufficient evidence,” said Gibson.
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Delay, you’re goin down!
September 30th, 2005 at 11:25 amThe BugMan just got pest controlled.
See ya later, Chump!
September 30th, 2005 at 11:29 amSpin control report to Travis County, stat!
September 30th, 2005 at 11:31 amMr. DeLay,
Go to hell. Your reign of terror is over. We’re taking our country back from you.
Sincerely,
September 30th, 2005 at 11:35 amAmerica
The question is not is Mr.Delay guilty but rather will be be convicted. Yes, I believe he will be convicted handed a light sentence and be forgotten. The statement made in the Bible,” that pride goes before a fall” is true. Because of his arrogance and mean hateful sneer I can find no mercy in my heart for him, forgiveness yes, but no mercy or tolerance.
September 30th, 2005 at 11:35 amVery Good Mimalee #5, I agree…..Blessings
September 30th, 2005 at 11:43 amNow he’s saying he was never invited to testify but even his own lawyer and the foreman of the jury says he was!
I think he lies completely out of habit. He doesn’t even know what the truth is anymore he just says whatever comes to mind!
September 30th, 2005 at 11:43 amCan we send him to Gitmo?
September 30th, 2005 at 11:46 amI sure hope Bush dosen’t pardon him like he did those 14 people.
And if someone could set the record straight for me on what hand Ronnie Earle DOES have in his indictment. Any at all right now?
I’m sorry for my lack of knowledge, been trying to run a business and new website so I’ve had less time to pay attention.
September 30th, 2005 at 12:05 pmComing Soon: The Ronnie Earle Movie
For the last two years, as he pursued the investigation that led to Wednesday’s indictment of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, Travis County, Texas prosecutor Ronnie Earle has given a film crew “extraordinary access” to make a motion picture about his work on the case.
The resulting film is called The Big Buy, made by Texas filmmakers Mark Birnbaum and Jim Schermbeck. “Raymond Chandler meets Willie Nelson on the corner of Wall Street and Pennsylvania Avenue in The Big Buy, a Texas noir political detective story that chronicles what some are calling a ‘bloodless coup with corporate cash,’” reads a description of the picture on Birnbaum’s website, markbirnbaum.com. The film, according to the description, “follows maverick Austin DA Ronnie Earle’s investigation into what really happened when corporate money joined forces with relentless political ambitions to help swing the pivotal 2002 Texas elections, cementing Republican control from Austin to Washington DC.”
“We approached him [Earle], and he offered us extraordinary access to him and, to an extent, to his staff,” Birnbaum told National Review Online Thursday. “We’ve been shooting for about two years.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200509291814.asp
One hates to be too cynical, but it’s pretty basic: no indictment, no movie.
September 30th, 2005 at 12:09 pmHow many times does Tom Delay have to tell you?
He’s just like Jesus…
September 30th, 2005 at 12:10 pmThank you for posting this. Most of the spin coming out of the Right wing talking heads flies in the face of what is the actual American Justice system. The right wingers spew this crap, the gullible American media just sucks it up, unfortunately most of the Sheeple that the right targets will believe it.
I guarantee you most of the people out there don’t understand that it isn’t the DA who indicted Delay… it was a “jurry of his peers”.
September 30th, 2005 at 12:10 pmCool, a movie about the one of the most corrupt politicians ever. I’ll buy that!!
September 30th, 2005 at 12:11 pmI sure hope Bush dosen’t pardon him like he did those 14 people.
As I mentioned on a previous thread, Bush can only pardon people convicted of a federal crime. Only the Gov of TX could pardon Delay.
September 30th, 2005 at 12:11 pm“We would not have handed down an indictment. We would have no-billed the man, if we didn’t feel there was sufficient evidence,†said Gibson.
Maybe we’ll get some of that evidence in the previews.
September 30th, 2005 at 12:15 pmHow much you wanna bet Gibson has already signed up for jury foreman in the movie?
Mr. DeLay asserted, essentially, that his actions were legal because “everybody does it”.
This is the fallacy of “common practice,” an evasion of logical thinking.
DeLay was not the first and probably won’t be the last. For another example, read Caro’s account of LBJ’s l94l senate race.
His defense does not stand up. The fact is that he bragged about how clever his scheme was and let everyone know that he was behind it, when in fact it was indeed nothing new. The corporate money in guys are not supposed to control what the money out guys do.
September 30th, 2005 at 12:17 pmI guarantee you most of the people out there don’t understand that it isn’t the DA who indicted Delay… it was a “jurry of his peersâ€.
Comment by Jennty
Most of those people get paid to vote Democrat too.
September 30th, 2005 at 12:17 pmOuch, that hurts. How will the GOP’ers pull off their smear campaign this time??
September 30th, 2005 at 12:17 pmWho cares, he is history, er, Fristory. It’s fun watching the trolls dance as fast as they can anymore. Smear, smear, smear anyone who says anything against this rotten machine. It is not believable and looks really stupid. I think they know how dumb they look defending criminals, they just can’t stop now. Why they continue to post here, I’ll never know. Maybe they are trying to convert someone – nice try, we are a little to well informed for that nonsense. Or maybe they are trying to convince themselves. Either way, they look ridiculous sticking up for a theif. It shows their true colors.
Post on nonthinking trolls.
September 30th, 2005 at 12:21 pmIt looks like Earle gave the grand jury saw something meatier than a “ham sandwich.”
September 30th, 2005 at 12:23 pmIRI, nice. You were all over Ryan Neat about Diebold. You criminal defending hypocrite. You must not love America standing up for criminals like you do. Sound familiar? Like a slice of your pie now?
September 30th, 2005 at 12:23 pm“The grand jury foreman also takes great exception to accusations that he and 11 other grand jury members followed …”
Aren’t there 23 members of a Grand Jury? Just don’t want you to have your stuff dismissed b/c of insignificant errors…
Good stuff, keep it coming.
September 30th, 2005 at 12:24 pmI’d like to see a movie about the proven false attacks on Clinton. Or perhaps the escapades of King Karl. John Goodman could play Karl and the Reitman’s could make it a comedy.
September 30th, 2005 at 12:31 pm“One hates to be too cynical, but it’s pretty basic: no indictment, no movie.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 30, 2005 @ 12:09 pm ”
Uhhhh, one could also conclude from that that Ronnie Earle had nothing to hide when it came to putting together a case against Delay and TRMPAC. I doubt a partisan hack engaging in a partisan witchhunt is going to allow cameras to follow his every move.
Any movie is going to show what those who have followed this case from the begining already know: TRMPAC’s actions were illegal and unethical, and Tom Delay is TRMPAC.
September 30th, 2005 at 1:27 pmGood point, Jamie. Yes, follow me around with cameras and watch me conspire against this great leader. Shhhhhh, don’t let anyone know.
September 30th, 2005 at 1:30 pm“Most of those people get paid to vote Democrat too.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I ”
For those that didn’t know it, this was MrFascists attack on welfare and minorities. His claim is that democrats actually pay poor people to vote for them through welfare – this is the same old tired claim the reichwing has made for decade, when in fact the opposite is ture.
The Reichwingers pay for america to vote for them by making irresponsible tax cuts when the government needs its money to be ‘fiscally responsible’. MrFascist is correct that some politicians do policies to buy votes (for instance the 8 billion in tax breaks to oil companies is a fine example) – unfortunately the party that’s continually and consistently guilty of this is the Republicans.
But like all psychotics MrFascist only can see his own flaws by projecting those on others. It’s his pathology – forgive him, he doesn’t know what he does…
September 30th, 2005 at 1:44 pmAbsolutely, Ryan. Remember when everyone got a $300 “relief” check in the mail? What do you suppose bush was trying to buy with that?
hmmmmmmmmm.
September 30th, 2005 at 1:51 pmFor those that didn’t know it, this was MrFascists attack on welfare and minorities. His claim is that democrats actually pay poor people to vote for them through welfare – this is the same old tired claim the reichwing has made for decade, when in fact the opposite is ture.
comment by Ryan “Whorehouse” Neat
Naw…Donks would never bribe the poor and aged with government entitlements to garner votes. NO WAY. And just because the Donks scare those same poor and aged by telling them over and over and over that the Republicans want to cut those same entitlements; the two have nothing at all to do with each other.
The Age of Reason didn’t do much for you did it Princess?
September 30th, 2005 at 1:51 pmAbsolutely, Ryan. Remember when everyone got a $300 “relief†check in the mail? What do you suppose bush was trying to buy with that?
hmmmmmmmmm.
Comment by Jamie
That was a tax rebate given only to those that actually paid taxes. What I remember was that Black Bitch of a Commie Congresswoman handing out $100 bills in S. Los Angles after that earthquake. Rumor has it she had a percentage of the Crips crack franchise. What was that bitch’s name anyway?
September 30th, 2005 at 1:55 pm#23. There is a (2004) movie called, The Hunting of the President, which documents the Clinton investigations that lasted 8 years and found nothing.
September 30th, 2005 at 1:55 pmJust wait until they get paid to shoot conservative Republicans!
September 30th, 2005 at 1:55 pmUhhhh, one could also conclude from that that Ronnie Earle had nothing to hide when it came to putting together a case against Delay and TRMPAC. I doubt a partisan hack engaging in a partisan witchhunt is going to allow cameras to follow his every move.
Any movie is going to show what those who have followed this case from the begining already know: TRMPAC’s actions were illegal and unethical, and Tom Delay is TRMPAC.
Comment by Jamie
Hell, you’ve got it all figured out all ready don’t you? Maybe you’d like to help them write the script. Donks are good at making shit up as they go along.
September 30th, 2005 at 1:58 pmI-R-I, you interested in a one-on-one? Highlights’d get posted on my blog.
Incidentally, is it scaring the old folks to tell them the truth? Because the Repubs DO want to cut those “entitlements”… But maybe we should just be quiet and let you guys scare them all on your own.
Oh, wait, but then we don’t have any original ideas or a message… damn! Let’s speak up and protest! YEAH!
AH! No! Now we’re obstructionists! Damn it….
September 30th, 2005 at 1:58 pmI’m Bozo The Conservative Clown
I live in I-Right-I’s town
I even sleep with his mom
And that’s his sister!
September 30th, 2005 at 1:58 pmDonks are good at making shit up as they go along.
And Repugs are good at making shit up in conference rooms and sticking with the shit even when the facts prove otherwise.
Personally, I’d rather have a fellow who actually reacts to what’s happening around him. But hey, I’m a witch.
September 30th, 2005 at 1:59 pmYou are female, Witch. Aye! My Right Eye! Would keep an eye out for you if you were a man.
September 30th, 2005 at 2:00 pmAnd he’s more into orgies. One on one don’t get his Gannon juice flowing or pucker up his turd blossom.
September 30th, 2005 at 2:04 pmHell, you’ve got it all figured out all ready don’t you? Maybe you’d like to help them write the script. Donks are good at making shit up as they go along.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 30, 2005 @ 1:58 pm
So then you don’t have a rational response to what I said?? Maybe you are going to call me a “black bitch commie”?? That would certainly add weight to your arguement.
A man who prosecutes himself for failing to meet a campaign contribution reporting deadline isn’t going to let cameras follow him if he is doing something shady.
September 30th, 2005 at 2:04 pmquick…someone send I-R-I directions for removing his head from his ass….
September 30th, 2005 at 2:05 pmHm. Maybe what I should say is that I’d like to have a one-on-one conversation with the local trolls-erm-i-mean-conservatives. Bozo is obviously going over the top.
September 30th, 2005 at 2:06 pmI’m gonna celebrate! I know you don’t feel like celebrating, IRI. All you gooper fvcknozzles should celibate tho. We don’t want you folks breeding out of control! not now that the bug man is outta bizness! LMAO!
September 30th, 2005 at 2:08 pmBozo is obviously going over the top.
Well, Sheeit Witchy! This is almost better than… sex!!
September 30th, 2005 at 2:10 pm#23. There is a (2004) movie called, The Hunting of the President, which documents the Clinton investigations that lasted 8 years and found nothing.
Comment by Marie
Imagine investigating Bill Clinton for eight years and finding nothing. Just imagine it. Dumbass.
September 30th, 2005 at 2:13 pm“The House Majority Man?” This is why democrats have only Minority Men and Women.
September 30th, 2005 at 2:18 pmI’m gonna celebrate! I know you don’t feel like celebrating, IRI. All you gooper fvcknozzles should celibate tho. We don’t want you folks breeding out of control! not now that the bug man is outta bizness! LMAO!
Comment by Bozo the Conservative Clown!
Celebrate? What exactly? You don’t think an incitement is quite the same as a conviction do you? Stupid question, of course you do.
I suggest you practice the little known art (in your circles) of delayed gratification. Think of it as pulling out even before you put it in. (your foot/your mouth)
September 30th, 2005 at 2:20 pmIRI, why are you here?
September 30th, 2005 at 2:22 pmAn indictment means he is losing his job and you know it. Anything else? Why are you here?
September 30th, 2005 at 2:23 pmincitement ?
Hee-Hee Haw Hoam skooled!
September 30th, 2005 at 2:23 pmI ignore the obvious syntax and grammatical errors, he IS an ignorant repub, you know, Bozo? I don’t expect higher function.
September 30th, 2005 at 2:24 pmHey! How much time should Clinton get for that there blow job?
September 30th, 2005 at 2:25 pmYeah, but I am Bozo! The Conservative Clown! Torturer of Trolls!
September 30th, 2005 at 2:26 pmIt is so wasted on them, though. They don’t understand. Although, I think it’s funny, so kudos, Bozo.
September 30th, 2005 at 2:27 pmYes, bozo, I think you are hilarious, too. What I especially found funny is that I-R-I doesn’t recognize obvious sarcasm when he sees it. LMAO
“I suggest you practice the little known art (in your circles) of delayed gratification. Think of it as pulling out even before you put it in.”
Ohhhhhh dirty!!!
ROTF!
September 30th, 2005 at 2:32 pmPut a fork in it, he’s done.
September 30th, 2005 at 2:53 pmYep, “just another Texan accused of criminal conspiracy.” Nice, telling phrase.
September 30th, 2005 at 2:56 pmIRI.. you know it really doesn’t matter how much crap you spew, nor how many conspiracy theories your poster boy for corruption spins out… in a court of law, it’s just the facts. That means YOUR boy is in trouble. BIiiiiig trouble. LOL… oops, mein schadenfreude ist anziegend.
September 30th, 2005 at 3:09 pmLets all remind ourselves of what the REPUBLICAN Foreman of the grand jury said. And while we’re making speeches public – lets all request that Bush’s testimony on 9/11 be made public. Oh that’s right, it’s important enough to make sex tapes public, but the largest attack on american soil is ’secret’. Please! Reichwingers are all such stupid and pathetic political hacks! So once again – from the foreman!
“I like his aggressiveness and everything, and I had nothing against the House majority man, but I felt that we had enough evidence, not only me, but the other grand jury members,†Gibson said.
The grand jury foreman also takes great exception to accusations that he and 11 other grand jury members followed the lead of Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle instead of following the evidence.
September 30th, 2005 at 3:19 pmGood for them! Ya just gotta laugh at DeLay’s public defense – as if Ronnie Earle had the power to unilaterally indict whoever he felt like.
A bittersweet, fanciful and rude treatment of DeLay’s current state of mind here: http://www.hairytruth.blogspot
September 30th, 2005 at 3:36 pmLets all remind ourselves of what the REPUBLICAN Foreman of the grand jury said.
Comment by Ryan “worst liar at Think Communist” Neat
The cocksucker wants to be a movie star, that alone disqualifies him from voting Republican….sheesh..don’t you know anything? OK…show me where it says he’s a Republican then prove he’s not actually a false flag RHINO working for Hillary Clinton. Dumbass.
September 30th, 2005 at 3:40 pmQUICK! Slur and destroy William Gibson no matter what his character!!! Damage control!!! You are going DOWN, Delay… you evil fvck.
► VIDEO of Delay crying here:
September 30th, 2005 at 3:41 pmhttp://members.cox.net/cowicide/delay.html
And that’s–
I mean it was–it’s just a
Little tiny spot
Down here
And a
Little tiny spot
Up here
‘Oh, No’
Yes
And at that point
I noticed it
And I kind of thought, oh
This is dirty
Comment by Monica “dirty” Lewinski
September 30th, 2005 at 3:48 pmLets all remind ourselves of what the REPUBLICAN Foreman of the grand jury said. And while we’re making speeches public – lets all request that Bush’s testimony on 9/11 be made public. Oh that’s right, it’s important enough to make sex tapes public, but the largest attack on american soil is ’secret’. Please! Reichwingers are all such stupid and pathetic political hacks! So once again – from the foreman!
“I like his aggressiveness and everything, and I had nothing against the House majority man, but I felt that we had enough evidence, not only me, but the other grand jury members,†Gibson said.
The grand jury foreman also takes great exception to accusations that he and 11 other grand jury members followed the lead of Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle instead of following the evidence.
September 30th, 2005 at 3:52 pm“The cocksucker wants to be a movie star, that alone disqualifies him from voting Republican….sheesh..don’t you know anything? ”
There we go again, the phallic fascination that is MrClosetQueerTheWrongestRepublican…
Bahahaha, I love how these Reichwingers IMMEDIATELY turn on each other as soon as they speak the truth. What Fascist insane assholes they are!
Lets all remind ourselves of what the REPUBLICAN Foreman of the grand jury said. And while we’re making speeches public – lets all request that Bush’s testimony on 9/11 be made public. Oh that’s right, it’s important enough to make sex tapes public, but the largest attack on american soil is ’secret’. Please! Reichwingers are all such stupid and pathetic political hacks! So once again – from the foreman!
“I like his aggressiveness and everything, and I had nothing against the House majority man, but I felt that we had enough evidence, not only me, but the other grand jury members,†Gibson said.
The grand jury foreman also takes great exception to accusations that he and 11 other grand jury members followed the lead of Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle instead of following the evidence.
September 30th, 2005 at 3:54 pmWhy in the world was the grand jury foreman giving an interview about grand jury proceedings which are secret?? Grand jury members are absolutely forbidden from discussing anything that went on during the grand jury, regardless of whether it’s been recorded elsewhere (ie, they cannot confirm or deny other information). Secrecy is the backbone of the grand jury system, and in Texas, a grand jury member that breaks the secrecy is subject to fines and imprisonment.
September 30th, 2005 at 4:36 pmJust because it’s Friday and you losers need something else to keep you busy this weekend…a little truth telling…HA!
“But I do know that it’s true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could, if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down.”
comment by William “I can not tell a lie” Bennett
Lets all remind ourselves of what the REPUBLICAN Foreman of the grand jury said.
Comment by Ryan “worst liar at Think Communist†Neat
The cocksucker wants to be a movie star, that alone disqualifies him from voting Republican….sheesh..don’t you know anything? OK…show me where it says he’s a Republican then prove he’s not actually a false flag RHINO working for Hillary Clinton. Dumbass.
September 30th, 2005 at 4:58 pmJamie, IRI is just a racist, woman hating thug. He defends criminals. What would you expect?
Why do you come here and spew venom, IRI?
September 30th, 2005 at 5:17 pmYep. Up ’til now, IRI just came off as a fool. Now we can add “bona fide racist” to his resume.
Lovely when they come out of the closet. It really makes everyone’s work so much easier.
You do realize, IRI, that not even the wingnut’s hero George Bush is backing Bennett’s comments which you seem to hold in such high esteem?
Oh, that’s right. We all secretly think like you. We just can’t admit it, right?
September 30th, 2005 at 5:23 pmOh, that’s right. We all secretly think like you. We just can’t admit it, right?
Comment by Jonathan
There’s not a snowball’s chance in hell that any of you think like me. To do that you’d have to own a brain.
I realize that George is playing the pussy. I also realize that Bennett does not think we should abort all black babies and if George had any stones he’s tell the Left wing to sit and spin just like I do. But there’s one more thing and that’s why I posted that off topic comment….What Bennett said is true and I know The Filthy Left hates all truth. If you tell the truth about the American Negro you are “a bona fide racist”. But, better a racist than a goddamned liar and traitor I always say. Oh, that would be you.
September 30th, 2005 at 5:53 pmJonathan, IRI is a Nazi. Some of his earlier posts clearly show his brownshirt:
IRI: “The Filthy Left in this country is a cancer and The Vast Right Wing Christian Conspiracy is the cure. We’ll win because we’re smarter and better than you. Oh, and we have all the guns. Losers, all your ass are belong to us.”
http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/chapters/s6573.html
“cancer also became an important social metaphor, as the Nazis portrayed Jews and other “enemies of the Volk” as tumors that must be eliminated from the German body politic.”
September 30th, 2005 at 5:55 pmIRI is one hateful dude.
September 30th, 2005 at 5:58 pmWhy do you come here and spew venom, IRI?
Comment by progressive and proud — September 30, 2005 @ 5:17 pm
It’s the safest way to spew venom and keep your teeth. All 7 of them.
September 30th, 2005 at 6:00 pmI know The Filthy Left hates all truth. If you tell the truth about the American Negro you are “a bona fide racistâ€. But, better a racist than a goddamned liar and traitor I always say. Oh, that would be you.
Coming from you, Racist, every insult from here on out will be a true compliment. And it’s not often I get to say that.
September 30th, 2005 at 6:03 pmThere’s not a snowball’s chance in hell that any of you think like me. To do that you’d have to own a brain.
He owns one. It’s in a jar in his closet. It’s a monkey brain, too. And I bet that poor monkey made better use of that brain than IRI makes of that atrophied walnut in his brain case.
September 30th, 2005 at 6:04 pmMore Poetry!
September 30th, 2005 at 6:06 pm#72 -*giggle*
September 30th, 2005 at 6:08 pmhttp://www.thetalentshow.org/music/karate_fight1.mp3
There’s the link to the music for the DeLay was indicted happy dance.
The other night when DeLay was tooting his horn he listed and listed and listed all the ethics charges against him since the 1990’s like it was something to be proud of.
Is he off his medication?
September 30th, 2005 at 6:46 pm“But there’s one more thing and that’s why I posted that off topic comment….What Bennett said is true and I know The Filthy Left hates all truth. If you tell the truth about the American Negro you are “a bona fide racistâ€. But, better a racist than a goddamned liar and traitor I always say. Oh, that would be you.”
Actually it would take aborting ALL children for this statement to actually be true, since crime comes from all segments and stratus of society. Look at the crooks Delay and Frist for instance!
The reality is that to single out a specific group and say THEY are the criminals, you deny the facts and realities that exist. Poor people are more desperate and have fewer means to be Enron or Halliburton or Frist or Delay or Bush whitecollar crooks. They often use the more primitive and only available means to do so. But this is a function of poverty more than race. And since african americans are kept in more poverty because of KKKrazy racists like MrWrongFascistFreak – there is more crime due to their increased level of poverty.
This is why crime tends to drop when the economy improves – because poverty also drops.
So I correct your stupidity, your ignorance and your racism.
Mr. Butthead WAS wrong,
1) because violent crime rates are tied more to poverty than race
2) because the only way to end crime would be to wipe out ALL children, eg. the human race, because crime always surfaces (look at you, you’re nothing but a lying treasonous terrorist – that’s truly criminal)
3) because the Butthead’s answer was to the question of crime and poverty – and he only mentioned black people – forgetting that crime rates among meth addicted redneck whites is is as or higher!
So once again MrNazi shows he’s stupid, ignorant, racist, illogical AND irrational. And his arguments look more like mudpies than masterful creations…
September 30th, 2005 at 9:04 pm“Why in the world was the grand jury foreman giving an interview about grand jury proceedings which are secret?? Grand jury members are absolutely forbidden from discussing anything that went on during the grand jury, regardless of whether it’s been recorded elsewhere (ie, they cannot confirm or deny other information). Secrecy is the backbone of the grand jury system, and in Texas, a grand jury member that breaks the secrecy is subject to fines and imprisonment.”
He didn’t discuss the proceedings. He discussed the merits of their decision. The proceedings would include specific charges or testimony that would prove useful in defense of the case – which he clearly did not do.
To simply say, well of course there was evidence and of course it was sufficient, because that’s the law and we complied with it – is not revealing any ’secrets’ or ‘proceedings’. A rational person would know this to already be truth – he’s just confirming this to an irrational republican horde all suffering from mass hysteria.
September 30th, 2005 at 9:14 pmHe didn’t discuss the proceedings. He discussed the merits of their decision. The proceedings would include specific charges or testimony that would prove useful in defense of the case – which he clearly did not do.
comment by Ryan “Give it to me baby” Neat
Coming from the “star of the movie” it’s pretty much the same as Ken Star’s dry cleaner saying, “yep, that dress, it was dirty all right”. Ryan “watch out for my hemorrhoids” Neat is now an expert on Texas law. I’d bet he thinks so because he got busted down in Montrose for pandering and spent the night in the Harris County pokey. HA! Ryan the homo was in the pokey! He got poked in the pokey! By a Smokey! HA! Sometimes I really love me!
September 30th, 2005 at 9:29 pmIRI is out of his mind. Obsessed with sex and perversion. Typical right-wing insanity. He must have missed his medication today.
September 30th, 2005 at 10:51 pmMarblex described losers like MrPervert perfectly…
When you have the law on your side, you argue the law.
When you have the facts on your side, you argue the facts.
When you have neither, you attack your opponent.
October 1st, 2005 at 12:25 amMaybe I’m naive, having grown up in a rather liberal part of the country and all — but I have never seen such proud racism until I started getting involved in politics and started talking to die-hard conservatives. The way I was raised, racism was shameful — something to be embarrased about when it surfaced in someone you knew.
But now, the men and women running this country no longer even try to hide their racism. The GOP tried to court the black vote on one hand — with Ken Mehlman actually apologizing for the Southern Strategy, and the attempt to include the religious black community in gay bashing (because there has to be an other to hate, apparently) — but then you have Sean Hannity and the other GOP cheerleaders defending these comments by Bennett — as if we didn’t get that he didn’t actually mean he wanted to abort black babies, completely missing the fact that what was offensive was the casual, “I’m only saying what everyone is thinking” connection between race and crime.
Then you have people like IRI who really make up the heart of the GOP. I’m hoping that his most racist of comments is just for shock value — an attempt to enrage us “filthy liberals.” But I suspect it isn’t an act. I have met many people like IRI — people who never question that they are good, decent Americans, but toss off the racist comments like nothing — like no one gets hurt.
But there is a kind of desperation in IRI’s (and others like him) comments — a hateful “what do you mean I’m not a good person?!” kind of defensiveness that is really sad. IRI is the reason the GOP as it stands will not last. Outrage and anger can only last so long.
October 1st, 2005 at 2:31 amYour right Jamie, it doesn’t take very long for their foul language, self hatred and hate for every one else to catch up with them. Soon people tire of even responding to them for the sake of argument or in hopes of waking them up..Then they have to return to their lonely, bitter thoughts…They are the unwanted and un accepted. They delude themselves thinking they are better than others and will some how fare better because of their miserable beliefs, ever following after liers and thieves that have stolen their soles. The realy sad thing for them is they don’t realize, we are all in this together, they will not fare any better than the least of us…..Blessings
October 1st, 2005 at 2:55 amYou guys are really pathetic. Hey, lookit, if you can’t stand the heat stay away from the cook. If I have to listen to any more of your crying and whining because you can’t keep up I’ll just have to start ignoring you and go pick on someone else.
But here’s a little clue for the clueless. The reason you can’t keep up is you don’t have a leg to stand on. The Filthy Left is always wrong about nearly everything and deep down you know it. It’s pretty hard to argue your despicable platform when you don’t believe it yourselves.
It’s my belief we’ve got several different kinds of people here and frankly it’s hard for me to tell the difference because you’re all pretty ignorant and in fact lacking style and even the semblance of class. We’ve got some real young Lefties here that’s pretty obvious. Easy to manipulate and eager to please. We’ve got some older Lefties, pretty tired of all the bullshit but unable to let go of the sixties and seventies when the Left actually had some pretty good brains running the show. Then we’ve got the die hard, true grit, absolutely insane killers of American culture, traditions and all that we as a country hold sacred. I’ve got a pretty good idea who you are but you keep a pretty low profile and are too smart to show all your cards. You’re the dangerous ones and you’re the first ones we’re going to hang on the courthouse steps one day. I hope I’m around to see it.
Now, you babies quit your whining and get down to the business of showing America what the Left is all about. I want to see some real venom for our leadership, military, for Christians and all the normal people who don’t think it’s a good idea to allow homosexuals access to children. Get busy!
Peace-Love-Dove y’all!
October 1st, 2005 at 9:10 amI can’t believe anyone here bothers to respond to anything said by I-RIGHT-I. As far as paying people to vote one way or another, think back to the late 20’s and early 30’s. How many people in this country were slowly starving to death. No jobs, farms failing, stock market dead because of manipulation by a few very rich. Look what happened in Germany and Russia, large numbers of people forced to live in abject poverty, revolution was in the air, and it was happening here too. If not for FDR then what? More Hoover? At least the ‘New Deal’ provided something for the vast majority of people economically speaking…. It’s pretty hard to pull yourself up by your bootstraps if you barefoot….
October 1st, 2005 at 10:26 amI can’t believe anyone here bothers to respond to anything said by I-RIGHT-I.
comment by fubar
I can’t believe you took the time to write that bullshit. WTF does the New Deal got to do with you ratbastardcommiemofo’s ruining this country and putting all our lives as risk? Abject poverty blah, blah, blah…Hoover blah, bootstrap blah…get off your ass and go to work like the majority of us and quit ‘yer bitch’n. Just a bunch of whining pussies, I got ‘yer “revolution” right here in my pants.
October 1st, 2005 at 12:10 pmIRI has gone insane. He professes to defend America but he wants to destroy everything it stands for because he wants it only his way — autocracy.
October 1st, 2005 at 12:32 pmHe is born out of his era — he should have been in the SS under Hitler because his philosophy is much more in accord with the Nazi party. He should be left alone to rant.
“Donks?” Sorry, dude, that one missed the dartboard and gave me the best laugh I’ve had today. I guess your rapier-like wit’s a little dull. Thanks for the cartoon image.
“Filthy Left?” Yup, we all look like Maynard G Krebs and hang out at the coffee house with our berets on; talking about smashing the state while we wait for our SSI checks to arrive. Remember to include “beatnick” in your list of stereotype insult words.
Your little pea brain’s full of simple cartoon images, isn’t it, you silly little jackass?
The people you’re defending have more contempt for you than you do for yourself. More contempt than you have for us. They thrive on tiny-dick social rejects like you. They lie to you so you’ll channel your delusional hatred against your fellow countrymen. They prey on the sick, disaffected castoffs like you. In the chaos that ensues, they operate to rob us all of our lives, our resources, our time, and our energy- yours as well as ours. This is the biggest crime wave our nation has ever seen. You think you’re a loyal henchman; you think you’ll be “in on it” when the victorious “day of triumph” arrives. But it’s all a sad and vicious illusion.
They don’t care about you. They’re using you. And that’s never going to change. We have a better way.
You poor deluded slob. You can’t even see it, can you?
October 1st, 2005 at 3:33 pm“Filthy Left?†Yup, we all look like Maynard G Krebs and hang out at the coffee house with our berets on; talking about smashing the state while we wait for our SSI checks to arrive. Remember to include “beatnick†in your list of stereotype insult words.
comment by gay french guy
I hate the French, they pretty much invented the Filthy Left. Maynard? You give yourself too much credit. Compared to the weasels I’m talking about and the kind of filth they live in Maynard was All American. I’d give you a lesson but even french sounding handles make me itch. Get a job.
October 1st, 2005 at 10:28 pmComment by I-RIGHT-I
I’d love to have a look at his genealogical record.
October 2nd, 2005 at 2:57 pmHey IRI? You awfully quiet today? Not feeling well? Take two rat poison pellets and don’t call me, call the undertaker, but you should do it now, not in the morning, K?
October 2nd, 2005 at 2:59 pm“comment by gay french guy
I hate the French, they pretty much invented the Filthy Left.”
SNAPPP!!! The sound of a rat trap going off. I knew if I didn’t get you with the comment, the “La Marseilles” would make you go for the bait. I shouldn’t give myself too much credit- this is like shooting bloated trash fish in a barrel.
Please- understand- the people you’re defending are using you. They despise you. They only want to use you as a goon, fu*k you up the ass, and throw you away when you’re too damaged. Why do you support and cover for people who treat you that way?
October 2nd, 2005 at 4:04 pmLa Marsailles,
Don’t bother. IRI is completely gone. His rhetoric is so close to the nazi anti-jewish hate speak that he doesn’t even see it. “filthy.” “dangerous.” And my personal favorite: “…you’re the first ones we’re going to hang on the courthouse steps one day.”
IRI is not worth your pity. He’s not worth your time. It’s sad, but my god — how hateful does someone have to be before we finally ignore him?
October 3rd, 2005 at 2:26 amHey IRI? You awfully quiet today? Not feeling well? Take two rat poison pellets and don’t call me, call the undertaker, but you should do it now, not in the morning, K?
Comment by Bobo The Conservative Clown
I’ve been a little busy. Shopping for a new assault weapon, cleaning my sheets, punishing my Negra house slave and in general having a wonderful time here deep in Mexican territory. (Houston)
October 3rd, 2005 at 9:11 amWhy do you support and cover for people who treat you that way?
Comment by La “Homo” Marsailles
That’s what you say yet I have found no evidence that I’m being screwed by my side any worse than you are by yours. Your side has a history of murdering their useful idiots where my side doesn’t have a history of every having any.
What I do find over and over and over again here is how inept the Filthy Left is at construction arguments. Your favorite trick and you do it all the time is accusing your enemy of what you yourself love to do or are guilty of. By the way the French do suck the big one. I think Ryan is French.
October 3rd, 2005 at 9:19 amThe French midwived this nation into existence. They are a mature republic who long ago experienced the tribulations our nation is involved in now. For that, and other reasons, they’ve got my admiration and respect. We wouldn’t be here as the USA if it weren’t for the French. That is a fact. No slanderous, ignorant comments you say can ever change that. I am eternally grateful to the French. Vive La France!
October 3rd, 2005 at 10:50 amQuestion gay French guy; What did you call the French before the Americans showed up?
Answer: Germans
I think Lafayette would consider the debt paid and if he were alive today lead another Revolution to cleanse the Filth from French soil. I further believe that the fact that you’d have to kill just about every Frenchman to clean the place up wouldn’t bother him on whit.
Also on a personal note. If you admire France then you either have zero knowledge of French history and perfidy or are just scum yourself.
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