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		<title>By: Mr. Evil</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-162813</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Evil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#77 MA: Sorry to inform you that you mistake &quot;rooting for failure&quot; for acknowledging failure. You&#039;re the one who is pitiful for supporting a mindless, ruthless, worthless, truthless, wayward, unscrupulous, corrupt beyond all belief administration. You must be a drunk like George Bush or a drug addled blowhard like Rush Limbaugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#77 MA: Sorry to inform you that you mistake &#8220;rooting for failure&#8221; for acknowledging failure. You&#8217;re the one who is pitiful for supporting a mindless, ruthless, worthless, truthless, wayward, unscrupulous, corrupt beyond all belief administration. You must be a drunk like George Bush or a drug addled blowhard like Rush Limbaugh.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=162813', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mighty aphrodite</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-162767</link>
		<dc:creator>mighty aphrodite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 00:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;BSR, You think it is cowardice; I think it is false bravado and foolhardy to not recognize failure. 
Comment by Marie â€” October 1, 2005 @ 12:45 pm &quot;

Marie, you&#039;ve been rooting for failure since the beginning - you&#039;re pitiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BSR, You think it is cowardice; I think it is false bravado and foolhardy to not recognize failure.<br />
Comment by Marie â€” October 1, 2005 @ 12:45 pm &#8221;</p>
<p>Marie, you&#8217;ve been rooting for failure since the beginning &#8211; you&#8217;re pitiful.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=162767', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keone Michaels</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-161196</link>
		<dc:creator>Keone Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 01:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I paranoid and delusional?  Or does this story have legs?

Now, if all this stuff is true and the developing storm with the Bushgate scandals and the illegal incursion in Iraq turning to shit and Katrina etc. etc..  

If, if , if all that stuff and rest is  emerging don&#039;t you think DUBYA has an escape parachute being packed up.  He is not that stupid.  Put yourself in his place.  I would be thinking about it.  Wouldn&#039;t you? George W. Bush is all about managing perception, not process.

What is a good way out of Iraq? How about the face saving &quot;The Avian flu pandemic is coming so we must bring home the troops to manage and quarantine population.&quot;  

By even a complete fool has to realize that if he wants any good historical reviews he needs to mend his ways.  

Have you noticed how all the talking heads are talking about Avian flu since at a recent press conference Bush mentioned it as a major problem?

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Inauguration/story?id=406639&amp;page=1  Bush&#039;s announcement
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9603271/  Background
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N05542114.htm  More background</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I paranoid and delusional?  Or does this story have legs?</p>
<p>Now, if all this stuff is true and the developing storm with the Bushgate scandals and the illegal incursion in Iraq turning to shit and Katrina etc. etc..  </p>
<p>If, if , if all that stuff and rest is  emerging don&#8217;t you think DUBYA has an escape parachute being packed up.  He is not that stupid.  Put yourself in his place.  I would be thinking about it.  Wouldn&#8217;t you? George W. Bush is all about managing perception, not process.</p>
<p>What is a good way out of Iraq? How about the face saving &#8220;The Avian flu pandemic is coming so we must bring home the troops to manage and quarantine population.&#8221;  </p>
<p>By even a complete fool has to realize that if he wants any good historical reviews he needs to mend his ways.  </p>
<p>Have you noticed how all the talking heads are talking about Avian flu since at a recent press conference Bush mentioned it as a major problem?</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Inauguration/story?id=406639&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Inauguration/story?id=406639&amp;page=1</a>  Bush&#8217;s announcement<br />
<a href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9603271/" rel="nofollow">http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9603271/</a>  Background<br />
<a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N05542114.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N05542114.htm</a>  More background<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=161196', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-158566</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>October 3, 2005  
What&#039;s Wrong With Cutting and Running?  
by Gen. (ret.) William E. Odom 
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/odom.php?articleid=7487</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>October 3, 2005<br />
What&#8217;s Wrong With Cutting and Running?<br />
by Gen. (ret.) William E. Odom<br />
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		<title>By: Mr. Evil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Evil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m missing something from the repugnants. How can it be considered &quot;cut and run&quot; if you&#039;ve already declared &quot;mission accomplished&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m missing something from the repugnants. How can it be considered &#8220;cut and run&#8221; if you&#8217;ve already declared &#8220;mission accomplished&#8221;?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=157776', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kjlovell</title>
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		<dc:creator>kjlovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 14 bases?

Have you seen their plans for bases in Iraq?  Run check, you&#039;ll find a few more.

As long as carlyle group is still around, you won&#039;t see peace on this planet.

As long as Halliburton, Bechtel and the like have shrubco it will be beans for us and pork for them.

As long as shrubco goes unpruned the devistation of democracy will continue for decades!

Do you really want barbara and jenna running things 20 years from now?

Think about it, they are in their 20&#039;s.  35 is the current legal age for president (like those two pay attention to the law).  If dumbya finds a way to steal yet another election that puts us at 2012 before we have a chance of correcting things.  That leaves only a 4 year window of sanity in the white house (if then) and you guessed it, the spaun of the devil are running age.

Hell if Hitler had the shrubs lack of ethics, we would be speaking german by now.  Or those of us left would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 14 bases?</p>
<p>Have you seen their plans for bases in Iraq?  Run check, you&#8217;ll find a few more.</p>
<p>As long as carlyle group is still around, you won&#8217;t see peace on this planet.</p>
<p>As long as Halliburton, Bechtel and the like have shrubco it will be beans for us and pork for them.</p>
<p>As long as shrubco goes unpruned the devistation of democracy will continue for decades!</p>
<p>Do you really want barbara and jenna running things 20 years from now?</p>
<p>Think about it, they are in their 20&#8217;s.  35 is the current legal age for president (like those two pay attention to the law).  If dumbya finds a way to steal yet another election that puts us at 2012 before we have a chance of correcting things.  That leaves only a 4 year window of sanity in the white house (if then) and you guessed it, the spaun of the devil are running age.</p>
<p>Hell if Hitler had the shrubs lack of ethics, we would be speaking german by now.  Or those of us left would be.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=157736', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 03:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gen. Abizaid said on MTP today that there were 340,000 troops in the region last year, so now we have less than half of that, making it sem like progress -- when did we have 350,000?
I think he was counting more than troops in Iraq to make his false argument. Both he and Casey were on TV this morning to crawdad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gen. Abizaid said on MTP today that there were 340,000 troops in the region last year, so now we have less than half of that, making it sem like progress &#8212; when did we have 350,000?<br />
I think he was counting more than troops in Iraq to make his false argument. Both he and Casey were on TV this morning to crawdad.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=157577', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-157483</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 00:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bill: The troops come and go, but General Vines said a month ago that there are approximately 140,000.
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2005/tr20050902-3845.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bill: The troops come and go, but General Vines said a month ago that there are approximately 140,000.<br />
<a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2005/tr20050902-3845.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2005/tr20050902-3845.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=157483', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Deven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not too long ago, it broke that approximately a billion dollars that was meant to purchase weapons for the Iraqi military and police forces had simply disappeared. It was &quot;spent&quot; by the Iraqi government on a series of worthless arms contacts. Is this the reason that readiness is lagging? Do we know? Has anyone asked? Come on, where&#039;s the liberal media when I need them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too long ago, it broke that approximately a billion dollars that was meant to purchase weapons for the Iraqi military and police forces had simply disappeared. It was &#8220;spent&#8221; by the Iraqi government on a series of worthless arms contacts. Is this the reason that readiness is lagging? Do we know? Has anyone asked? Come on, where&#8217;s the liberal media when I need them?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=157055', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-157024</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is the current us troop strength in Iraq? Please help. It is extremly important.
             billjpa@aol.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is the current us troop strength in Iraq? Please help. It is extremly important.<br />
             <a href="mailto:billjpa@aol.com">billjpa@aol.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=157024', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Barnacle Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barnacle Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If any question why we died,
Tell them, because our fathers lied.&quot;
Rudyard Kipling, after the First World War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If any question why we died,<br />
Tell them, because our fathers lied.&#8221;<br />
Rudyard Kipling, after the First World War.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=156889', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-156593</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recent testimon from General George Casey, which reinforces Professor Cole&#039;s statement that our troops are making things worse rather than better:

During his congressional testimony, Army Gen. George W. Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said that troop reductions were necessary to &quot;take away one of the elements that fuels the insurgency, that of the coalition forces as an occupying force.&quot; A smaller U.S. presence could alleviate some of the anger feeding the insurgency, Casey suggested.

We say remove them all and alleviate all of the anger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recent testimon from General George Casey, which reinforces Professor Cole&#8217;s statement that our troops are making things worse rather than better:</p>
<p>During his congressional testimony, Army Gen. George W. Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said that troop reductions were necessary to &#8220;take away one of the elements that fuels the insurgency, that of the coalition forces as an occupying force.&#8221; A smaller U.S. presence could alleviate some of the anger feeding the insurgency, Casey suggested.</p>
<p>We say remove them all and alleviate all of the anger.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=156593', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 06:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good posts every one, except the trolls and tidy didie who ever he/she is.........Blessings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good posts every one, except the trolls and tidy didie who ever he/she is&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Blessings<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=156127', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Neat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Neat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 04:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Viet Nam and Cambodia are EXCELLENT examples of the leftâ€™s complete inability to understand the viciousness of totalitarianism.&quot;

Really?  I always thought they were excellent examples of the RIGHT wing aspects of governments to become totalitarian - and why it&#039;s important to support liberal and progressive democracies world wide.  The fact that you clearly know nothing of the lessons of vietnam, explains why your party keeps repeating their mistakes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Viet Nam and Cambodia are EXCELLENT examples of the leftâ€™s complete inability to understand the viciousness of totalitarianism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?  I always thought they were excellent examples of the RIGHT wing aspects of governments to become totalitarian &#8211; and why it&#8217;s important to support liberal and progressive democracies world wide.  The fact that you clearly know nothing of the lessons of vietnam, explains why your party keeps repeating their mistakes!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=156094', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-156091</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 04:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marie: Cut-n-run has a certain flair, and it drives all the chicken hawks nuts, so I like it. Stan Goff says we could do it in a month; I think six months is very realistic. If there&#039;s a will, there&#039;s a way. That would give the true patriots like mighty aphrodite enough time to enlist with Blackwater Security, or just go on his own to fight them Islamofascists, like the totalitarianism in Cambodia and Vietnam. And while he and the other chickenhawks are over there, we&#039;ll have a better chance of reversing our own trend to fascism here in the US of A. We also have to start the healing process:  many of our people who have survived the Iraq nightmare will be tormented forever by physical and mental injuries, including many with PTSD, and we have to help them. Meanwhile, with or without m.a., the Iraqi people would be released from  our military occupation and able to fashion their own future free of our criminal detention, harassment, torture, killing and destruction. It is a criminal act to drag this out. We all know, or should know, that it&#039;s wrong. We&#039;ve done the cannon fodder bit, so enough already. We won, Saddam&#039;s gone, let&#039;s celebrate V-I day and end the damn thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marie: Cut-n-run has a certain flair, and it drives all the chicken hawks nuts, so I like it. Stan Goff says we could do it in a month; I think six months is very realistic. If there&#8217;s a will, there&#8217;s a way. That would give the true patriots like mighty aphrodite enough time to enlist with Blackwater Security, or just go on his own to fight them Islamofascists, like the totalitarianism in Cambodia and Vietnam. And while he and the other chickenhawks are over there, we&#8217;ll have a better chance of reversing our own trend to fascism here in the US of A. We also have to start the healing process:  many of our people who have survived the Iraq nightmare will be tormented forever by physical and mental injuries, including many with PTSD, and we have to help them. Meanwhile, with or without m.a., the Iraqi people would be released from  our military occupation and able to fashion their own future free of our criminal detention, harassment, torture, killing and destruction. It is a criminal act to drag this out. We all know, or should know, that it&#8217;s wrong. We&#8217;ve done the cannon fodder bit, so enough already. We won, Saddam&#8217;s gone, let&#8217;s celebrate V-I day and end the damn thing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=156091', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-155898</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a good case, Don.  And I have read Juan Cole.
IT wouldn&#039;t be cut and run though, that is GOP talk.  It will take months, hoever, even if we started now, to get the troops out.  The CAP plan has some merit. Can the same be accomplished in less than one year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good case, Don.  And I have read Juan Cole.<br />
IT wouldn&#8217;t be cut and run though, that is GOP talk.  It will take months, hoever, even if we started now, to get the troops out.  The CAP plan has some merit. Can the same be accomplished in less than one year?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=155898', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mighty aphrodite</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-155802</link>
		<dc:creator>mighty aphrodite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 00:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhhh.... the military geniuses of the &quot;regressive left&quot;. Here&#039;s a message you may want to transmit: 
*** ALL radical Islamofascist: wait until the US  gradually cuts and runs so you may pursue killing all Moslems left in your path of &quot;diversity&quot;. Viet Nam and Cambodia are EXCELLENT examples of the left&#039;s complete inability to understand the viciousness of totalitarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhhh&#8230;. the military geniuses of the &#8220;regressive left&#8221;. Here&#8217;s a message you may want to transmit:<br />
*** ALL radical Islamofascist: wait until the US  gradually cuts and runs so you may pursue killing all Moslems left in your path of &#8220;diversity&#8221;. Viet Nam and Cambodia are EXCELLENT examples of the left&#8217;s complete inability to understand the viciousness of totalitarianism.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=155802', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-155795</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 00:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MORE ON CUT-N-RUN

Excerpts from Professor Juan Cole piece:

The first reason to get the ground troops out now is that they are being fatally brutalized by their own treatment of Iraqi prisoners.

The second reason is that the ground troops are not accomplishing the mission given them, and are making things worse rather than better.

Basically, if all the US military in Iraq is capable of is operations like Fallujah and Tal Afar, then they really need to get out of the country quick before they drive the whole country, and the region, into chaos. 

Even as they are chasing after shadows in dusty border towns, the US military is allowing much of Baghdad to fall into the hands of the guerrillas.

And that is why we have to get the ground troops out. Counter-insurgency has to have both a military and a political track. Even as the enemy is being pressed, you have to reach out to the civilian leadership and try to draw them into a truce.

Things in the Sunni Arab areas are getting worse, not better.

I conclude that the presence of the US ground troops is making things worse, not better.

Let&#039;s get them out, now, before they destroy any more cities, create any more hundreds of thousands of internally displaced persons, provoke any more ethnic hatreds by installing Shiite police in Fallujah or Kurdish troops in Turkmen Tal Afar. They are sowing a vast whirlwind, a desert sandstorm of Martian proportions, which future generations of Americans and Iraqis will reap.

The ground troops must come out. Now. For the good of Iraq. For the good of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MORE ON CUT-N-RUN</p>
<p>Excerpts from Professor Juan Cole piece:</p>
<p>The first reason to get the ground troops out now is that they are being fatally brutalized by their own treatment of Iraqi prisoners.</p>
<p>The second reason is that the ground troops are not accomplishing the mission given them, and are making things worse rather than better.</p>
<p>Basically, if all the US military in Iraq is capable of is operations like Fallujah and Tal Afar, then they really need to get out of the country quick before they drive the whole country, and the region, into chaos. </p>
<p>Even as they are chasing after shadows in dusty border towns, the US military is allowing much of Baghdad to fall into the hands of the guerrillas.</p>
<p>And that is why we have to get the ground troops out. Counter-insurgency has to have both a military and a political track. Even as the enemy is being pressed, you have to reach out to the civilian leadership and try to draw them into a truce.</p>
<p>Things in the Sunni Arab areas are getting worse, not better.</p>
<p>I conclude that the presence of the US ground troops is making things worse, not better.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get them out, now, before they destroy any more cities, create any more hundreds of thousands of internally displaced persons, provoke any more ethnic hatreds by installing Shiite police in Fallujah or Kurdish troops in Turkmen Tal Afar. They are sowing a vast whirlwind, a desert sandstorm of Martian proportions, which future generations of Americans and Iraqis will reap.</p>
<p>The ground troops must come out. Now. For the good of Iraq. For the good of America.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=155795', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Phinga Bheng</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-155794</link>
		<dc:creator>Phinga Bheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 00:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There goes Ryan again, telling complete...well, lies.  He thinks terrorism began with Reagan.  Ryan, you must have benn a protozoa in your momma&#039;s womb in the 70&#039;s.  Would you say that Carter&#039;s policies correctly dealt with terrorism?  Were his policies and actions effective?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There goes Ryan again, telling complete&#8230;well, lies.  He thinks terrorism began with Reagan.  Ryan, you must have benn a protozoa in your momma&#8217;s womb in the 70&#8217;s.  Would you say that Carter&#8217;s policies correctly dealt with terrorism?  Were his policies and actions effective?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=155794', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Carey</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/30/progressive-exit-strategy/comment-page-2/#comment-155788</link>
		<dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 23:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Porno doesnâ€™t count. 

Comment by I-RIGHT-I â€” October 1, 2005 @ &lt;/em&gt;

You poor bastard. You must never have a good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Porno doesnâ€™t count. </p>
<p>Comment by I-RIGHT-I â€” October 1, 2005 @ </em></p>
<p>You poor bastard. You must never have a good day.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=155788', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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