DeLay’s Risky Business
DeLay’s Risky Business
DeLay continues to insist that one of his “closest and dearest friends,” Jack Abramoff, deceived him. He still claims that he had no knowledge that Abramoff footed the bill for their lavish trip to Britain in 2000. (House Ethics rules bar lawmakers from accepting such gifts from lobbyists.) This trip included a golf trip to a resort in Scotland, a performance of “The Lion King,” and stays at fancy hotels.
The one portion of the trip DeLay tries to justify as business is a meeting with Margaret Thatcher:
I’m involved in the conservative movement overseas, too. I went there to meet with Margaret Thatcher and other high-ranking officials talking and working with them on how the conservative party can get back into power.
Lord Bell, Thatcher’s spokesman, had a different story:
Lady Thatcher is visited by many politicians and political figures from around the world….It [the DeLay meeting] was not a business meeting.
If the meeting with Thatcher wasn’t business, what was?
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Is anything this guy says true?
October 4th, 2005 at 5:57 pmDelay and Abramoff.
Just two of the Banana Republicans.
October 4th, 2005 at 5:57 pmHe likes to file her corns.
October 4th, 2005 at 5:58 pmAre internet TV news shows our answer to Fox?
Liberty News TV
October 4th, 2005 at 6:00 pmDelay is using the Chewbacca defense: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense
October 4th, 2005 at 6:10 pm#3 – Geez, Patriot, I’ll NEVER get that visual out of my brain.
October 4th, 2005 at 6:10 pmTerrytheturtle
October 4th, 2005 at 6:13 pmis correct. Delay is NEVER EVER EVER EVER this vocal. Never has been. He’s a freakin’ peacock on acid.
Are internet TV news shows our answer to Fox?
Liberty News TV
Yes! And DemsTV.com
http://4.38.70.28/home.php
And Evolvetv
http://www.evolvetv.tv/
It’s reality based broadcasting and not rocket surgery.
October 4th, 2005 at 6:22 pmDamn! He is using the Chewbacca defense! Southpark conservatives!
October 4th, 2005 at 6:23 pmI love it when an accused person strongly claims to be innocent….in fact, I believe that the amount of screaming of innocence is directly proportional to the amount of guilt. According to no meaningful statistical measurements other than my owe recall of these types of situations, about 100% of these suckers end up being convicted, resigning and becoming a GOP political consultant. Just can’t get off that gravy train!!
October 4th, 2005 at 6:30 pmIf they told the truth, they would have very few votes. So, of course, they lie. I think the larger problem is the fact that people believe such ridiculous and over the top lies. That is our nation’s biggest hurdle to overcome – people that just don’t listen and explore what they are being told. They want to believe so desperately what they are told that they disregard common sense and basic logic.
It hurts to learn that all you have known for years is just a lie and smoke and ashes. Some have a hard time dealing with the fact that they were totally shammed and taken advantage of. These are the diehards that under no circumstances can admit their errors. It is sad to see, actually. I learn new things everyday. Too bad some already know it all and thus, won’t let any other info in.
October 4th, 2005 at 6:32 pmTerry, thanks for letting us revisit that hysterical scene from South Park. Perfect! Do you think Delay is going to call the Grand Jury “the supposed Grand Jury”? Also, notice that the term “South Park Conservatives” was pretty short-lived–yet another embarrassment for the Rethugs!
October 4th, 2005 at 7:14 pmMr. Delay: Me thinks thou dost protest too much.
Southwest Bob has it right — the depth and amount of screeching is direclty proporational to the depth and amount of guilt.
October 4th, 2005 at 7:21 pmAs for Thatcher (if I can get past the mental image of her corns) perhaps Emails between Margaret and Tom don’t translae too well across the Atlantic — because their stories don’t quite jibe.
I think I would put more stock in Thatcher’s reply. But that’s just me.
The local Fox news in Dallas is supporting Delay and saying he “could come back stronger since laundering is so hard to prove”.
October 4th, 2005 at 7:22 pmThey’re portaying Earle as having “missed” on the first indictment.
Terry, by the way, remember the rest of that South Park episode when Johnnie Cochran used the Chewbacca Defense on Chef’s behalf? He was trying to distract the jury by repeating “Look at the monkey! Look at the monkey!” Maybe Tom Delay will say “Look at the Bush-monkey! Look at the Bush-monkey!”
October 4th, 2005 at 7:24 pmSouthpark is poor quality satire.
October 4th, 2005 at 7:36 pmIf Ambroff was one to decieve him, then why were he and most of the REPUGnicans in D.C. paying his legal expenses?
The visit to Thatcher: delay believes it was indeed business.
I agree: MONKEY BUSINESS.
October 4th, 2005 at 7:55 pmSouthpark is poor quality satire.
It’s not Voltaire or Twain, but it gets kids introduced to the art. It is a cartoon after all.
October 4th, 2005 at 7:55 pmSee high quality satire at
http://www.storytimedolls.net/mmff.html
October 4th, 2005 at 7:56 pmThere is an old Texas saying: The guilty dog barks first and loudest.
October 4th, 2005 at 7:57 pmTwain was considered common and poor quality in it’s day also.
I personally have never seen South Park, but I will not try to prove my good taste and education trashing it either.
October 4th, 2005 at 8:00 pmJust another lying Texan. Pretty soon we’ll start hearing about Pacos Bill or Paul Bunyan or other such yarns from Chimpus and Delie. These guys have been spinning so long I don’t think they recognize the truth.
October 4th, 2005 at 8:09 pmThis ain’t a big deal. I just can’t help it!
If the meeting with Thatcher wasn’t buisness [sic], what was?
October 4th, 2005 at 8:10 pmFunny how our major media are focused almost exclusively on the Earle indictments. This man has investigations snaking into every orifice. And I’m afraid he can’t laugh off the Justice Department as a “partisan hack.”
October 4th, 2005 at 9:11 pmWhere are all the trolls??? No pithy comments??? C’mon! Satire is entertaining, but trollisms can evoke chortling too! #20 – very true!
October 4th, 2005 at 9:29 pmDeLay just likes older women.
October 4th, 2005 at 10:15 pmI think Ned has gone to try and get himself nominated for something – he saw Bush nominate his tea lady for the SCOTUS and thinks he might be up for Secretary of Sewage or something as reward for his unswerving loyalty to the Chimp Emporer.
October 4th, 2005 at 10:32 pmfollowing Tom as I have for a long long time. I’ve noted that hoplessly cornered he wil be dangerous as never before. But yet, I’m confident that he wil go done for the count and likey never be seen again on K St.
I think he has enough stolen doe to get by in obscrutiy…………….Let’s hope
You Yankee bloggers are greasing his slide into oblivian – Great Work – Never Falter….
October 4th, 2005 at 10:32 pmI, for once, agree with Delay: It is an “abomination” for him being indicted. The “abomination” being that the Republicans of the great state of Texas are so easily bullsh*ted. Bush. Junior Bush. DeLay.
JEEEZE! Someone please tell me it’s not just a Texas thing.
October 4th, 2005 at 10:56 pmThe one portion of the trip DeLay tries to justify, as business is a meeting with Margaret Thatcher:
Mrs Thatcher had been out of power for nearly ten years, when Delay said he had a meeting with her.
Her own party, the Conservatives Party, removed her from her position as British Prime Minister, to be replaced by John Major in 1990.
And Delay wanted to meet with Margaret Thatcher and other high-ranking officials, for a natter, and to work with them, on how the Conservative Party, could get back into power, (what a fine job he did, with his advice).
The reason the Conservative Party was stuffed in the 1997 General Election by Tony Blair and The Labour Party. Was because of eighteen years of Conservative rule, (eleven of those under Thatcherism).
I think Delay was speaking to the wrong people/person, if he was trying to help.
October 4th, 2005 at 10:58 pm“JEEEZE! Someone please tell me it’s not just a Texas thing.”
It’s not. Most of the people you see walking down the street everyday are non-think, zombie sheeple.
So, no it is not a Texas thing. It is a National, if not International thing.
October 4th, 2005 at 11:12 pmTwain was considered common and poor quality in it’s day also.
I personally have never seen South Park, but I will not try to prove my good taste and education trashing it either.
Comment by kjlovell
Elitist!
October 4th, 2005 at 11:16 pmChristopher Shays, R. Conn, just said on Joe Scabburro that even if DeLay beats the rap, he’s not welcome back as the leader of the Republican party, at least not by Shays. He’s done.
October 4th, 2005 at 11:18 pmMe sniffs a political move by Shays…. he is thinking toward the 06 elections (little does he know they’re already “fixed”)
and by the way, if you read my posts, I hate dumbya…
If you’re so well informed, then you should already know my stance on things.
And you call others zombies…(how did you put it?) geeez
October 5th, 2005 at 2:02 amBTW, I make far less than the average tax saver, so thanks for the elitist comment, but no thanks.
I am outraged by the FEBLE or is that FEMA response. I am outraged that the poor and black were treated so differently than the white in Texas.
Thank you anyway, but I’m no elitist. I drive a pickup, I do manual and white collar labor. I mow my own yard, I fix my own food, I pump my own gas when I can afford it.
With any luck this winter I’ll be able to pay my gas bill to heat my home.
Cheers!
October 5th, 2005 at 2:05 amBut dumbya still sucks
October 5th, 2005 at 2:07 amMargaret Thatcher has had several strokes and has been ailing for years. Meeting with her was just a ruse for his future benefit. Such as today when he has to try to justify that trip and the lavishness of it.
But I think he is making a fatal mistake in saying Jack Abramoff “deceived” him. Abramoff, as sinister and twisted as he is, is no dummy. To save his ass he’ll sing like a canary to get back at DeLay for saying something so incredibly stupid and to receive a reduced sentence should the evidence against him prove overwhelming. His troubles in Florida are only the beginning for him. He still has the FBI on his tail.
So keep talking Tom. Jack is listening with his lawyers and the FBI!
October 5th, 2005 at 2:20 amIsn’t what’s going on in the GOP like watching fish eat their own young on the Discovery channel? It’s kind of gross knowing what they are doing and yet, you are helpless to stopping watching in horror as it happens, but are elated once it’s over with.
October 5th, 2005 at 2:55 ambush is asking for preempitve control over avian flu outbreaks. rise up now. put this man in jail.
October 5th, 2005 at 3:32 amTommy#40, would bet this is just a ruse to be able declare marshal law over all the citizenry at any time he chooses. Very scary business indeed. The thought of our own taking us out at the behest of this madman and his evil crew is chilling. What he does not realize is most americans have guns. Repub. are not the only ones that believe in the right to bear arms…Off point, sorry. Where are we on the impeach issue and how long before these other guys get nailed for crimes….Blessings
October 5th, 2005 at 8:55 am#40 – TOMMY
You got it right on the button me lad. Bush is just aching to declare martial law, and the pandemic flu outbreak, if it occurs here, will be his big, big chance.
October 5th, 2005 at 10:10 am#41, I think, maybe someone can run this down, that the Patsy Act allow the Chimp to put the 82nd Airborne in your neighborhood whenever he likes. So pack in throwing your dog sh** in each other’s yards, you might regret it.
October 5th, 2005 at 10:34 amI think we can all see the motive behind his “martial law” excuse. He is flailing to gain more power in every way he can. His performance at yesterday’s PC was pathetic. He is pathetic. He is unfit to lead.
October 5th, 2005 at 10:46 amThis “MARTIAL LAW” is kind of scary. I hope congress
October 5th, 2005 at 11:02 amdoes not pass this. We all will be in big trouble.
Hey, I never said that South Park is the ultimate satire or anything–but it does have it’s great moments. I’m no elitist (although I’m sure that Bill O’Lielly would call all of us here ‘elitist’), but I like to think I’m “smarter than the average bear.” And, yes, the idea of Bush declaring martial law is possibly even scarier than the possibility of contracting avian flu. I hope that even Rethugs will not be ready to cross that line.
October 5th, 2005 at 12:04 pmIf this would happen we would not have the blog. This would be horrible.
October 5th, 2005 at 1:54 pmWhat’s the point of DeLay insisting this was a “business” meeting with Thatcher? Did he write it off on his taxes?
October 5th, 2005 at 3:08 pmJEALOUS OF JEFF GANNON
Do you want to live under martial law?
October 5th, 2005 at 3:15 pmMicahel Scott: Its so he doesm’t get nailed for taking a gift from a lobbyist. Thats a big time no-no. No-no as in illegal. Unfortunately it rarely get prosecuted because everybody on each side is corrupt and does it. How would it play if a guy learned of your frivolous “business” trip and aired that dirty little piece of scandal during an election year? The only reason the law doesn’t start fistfights is because since everybody does it, its M.A.D. for both sides to bring it up.
October 5th, 2005 at 4:45 pm#50 Pablo – is that a rhetorical question? My #43 post was leavened with enough irony that I thought it was hard to misinterpret. My neighbor lets his dog cr** in my front yard BTW. I am still Jealous of Jeff as I crave for someone to take me seriously….
October 5th, 2005 at 8:00 pmA conservative government is an organized hypocrisy.
–Benjamin Disraeli
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
October 17th, 2005 at 5:58 pm–Voltaire