That’ll teach me to watch more than two episodes of Get Smart in a row, eh? ;^)

(Sorry ’bout that, 99…)

#99, how am I a troll? Because I’m still not completely convinced that Rove, who IMHO has ALL of this trouble coming and then some, isn’t going to find some way of weaseling out of this jam? Christ, that’s what con men like Rove DO. He’s made a career out of running political cons, and I’m sure you know as well as I do that he’s made himself and his circle disturbingly close to being untouchable.

I honestly do hope that he gets taken down by Fitzgerald and that he actually has to do time over this. I’ve just seen him and Bush and the rest of them avoid consequences for their actions way too often to not take a wait-and-see approach on this. If Rove does actually go down, believe me I’ll be popping champagne and sparking up a victory joint just like the rest of y’all.

As for my criticisms of the Democrats, it’s only because I expect a lot more of them than what they’ve been showing. No, I don’t think they’ve been a particularly effective opposition party of late, and I think they need to get past this thing where they’re either trying to be ersatz Republicans, or else they’re practically apologizing for being associated with liberals. Personally, I think the national Democratic party needs to strap on a set of cast-iron balls and get on with it. I think they’re full of potential to be an effective opposition party, but they actually need to get it together to start actually BEING one.

If any of that makes me a troll, so be it.

If you feel, as the majority of Americans and people throughout the world do, that the war in Iraq is wrong, and you wish you had a way to show the Bush Administration, the Government of the United States, and the world, how you feel about it, then join us in our world wide walk out on November 10th 2005.

Show the world how you feel, and just how many of us feel this way. Let’s drive the point home by taking away from them their most precious item; money.

On November 10th 2005, unless you hold a position which people rely upon in the event of an emergency (you work at a hospital, a firemen, policemen etc), don’t go to work. Try not to drive your car; don’t watch T.V.; don’t use the internet. Stay at home. Read a book. Play with your kids. Engage in a hobby.

Plan a vacation day at work. Call in sick. Use your best judgment on how to take this day off.

If we don’t get their attention this way, we’ll just do it again, until we do.

If the people speak, and speak together, they have to listen.

Please email this to as many of your friends and colleagues as you wish/can.

I don’t disagree. LBJ in 1964 was a different person than he was 4 years later. I also agree that our CIA in those years were stuffed with some of the most reactionary people in our society. The CIA most certainly spun the evidence to fit their agenda. Today, the reactionaries are in the Executive Branch and they are doing the intel cooking to fit their agenda. The outcomes will be pretty much the same. A loss of US prestige and credibility while stuck in quagmire that we can’t win but can only decide the magnitude of our loss.

The Vietnam adventure revealed the limits of JFK’s and LBJ’s liberalism. They were both ardent cold warriors. More importantly though, it was a CIA project from the beginning (1954, right after they got done with Guatemala), and the two presidents were manipulated or intimidated into going along. This is just my view of it. I have no evidence to back up the 2nd part, but there’s lots of evidence showing the CIA’s involvement. It was their idea to assasinate Diem, not Kennedy’s.

By the way, don’t be fooled by the pompous opinions of amateur lawyers concerning the Texas grand jury indictment. They say that there’s no evidence in the indictment. This is true. As always, however, there is a missing fact that exposes their argument for what it is, desperate, contorted, pseudo-analysis. Texas law does not require that such an indictment contain incriminating evidence. Most states do, but not Texas.
Earle is just using the rule to his advantage.

Jay—– Amen. Peace to you. As for schadenfreude, let’s be clear. If someone who assaulted your mother gets put in jail, and you’re happy about it, is that schadenfreude?

No joke. I can’t believe that anyone that leans to the right could ever think that is left leaning shit. At least when we try to prove a point, we use either direct quotes from transcripts, video or something else that is tangible. Thes morons think an opinion piece is fact.

Sheeeesh!

Most americans have moved to the right in the last 25 years as the media consolidation and the fairness in media doctrine did away with the duty of the press to accurately portray stories…

The reality is that when 55% of americans believe that Genesis is true, clearly there’s been a reichwing takeover of the rational brain of the average american. The reichwing is so devoid of facts, their latest tactic is to setup shadow and shady organizations that mirror legitimate ones – and push ‘voodoo’ science. It’s just another example of ‘reichwing bias’ that prohibits them from thinking with their rational brains… Their fear, hatred and greed always seem to undermine any sense of rational thought that peeks its head up..

You call that left leaning. Man you must be so far to the right that Bill O’Rielly and Anne Coulter are jealous.

You’re fvcking whack!

As I understand it, Rove’s offer to re-appear before the grand jury has been on the table since July. If this is the case, it seems to me that he’d have had to have been convinced as far back as mid-summer that he was to be indicted for perjury for this offer to be about tying together incompatable stories to avoid a perjury charge.

Obviously something’s changed if Fitzgerald went out of his way to suddenly warn Rove that there’s no guarantee against his eventual indictment. I’m just not so sure that the story that seems most common tonight when parsing the news of tomorrow’s scheduled testimony is really anything to do with what’s actually happening.

I may well be wrong, though, and I actually tend to hope that I am.

In any case, I agree with those who say that, while it would be a good sign of things to come if at least some of the more high-profile corrupt Republicans were to finally have to face some degree of legal responsibility and consequences for their actions, it’s only “the end of the beginning” as far as taking back the government from the worst of them goes. There’s still the tiny matter of the Democrats still being an absolute embarrassment as an “opposition party”, and how to fix that, pronto.

This isn’t LBJ we are discussing; we are dealing with someone who apparently slept through his history major at Yale and, instead, gets his foreign policy directives directly from God….when he’s not falling off his bycycle.

This is who you are. This is what you look like to us, us being the normal people in this country. You are truly deluded and sick like the follower of this pedophile priest who hung himself after murdering two men who were about to expose him. His followers are as sick as he was, as you are, as all conservatives are.

http://www.citypages.com/databank/26/1296/article13748.asp

I remember someone else, 5 years and $800BB ago, saying there wasn’t a “dime’s worth of difference” between a Republican and a Democrat. I think that triangulated very well for Bush…don’t you?

Yeah, there are some Democrats that I’d just as soon see leave the Party, but I’ll take the Party of FDR, Kennedy, Carter, and Clinton every day over the Syndicate of Nixon, Reagan, Bush, and Dimson.

Comment by Blue State Red

Glad you are so eager. Be careful what you wish for. You just got it. I bet he cops a plea.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/06/AR2005100601903.html

The lawyer’s statement is meaningless. The lack of a target letter merely indicates that Fitzgerald has not yet decided to indict him. If he decides, he can issue the letter and then the indictment. He could even hand Rove the letter as he leaves the grand jury room.