I pray to every diety known to man that this will not turn out to be a HUGE disappointment. I fear this is like all of the hype that precedes a summer block-buster movie and then it turns out to be nothing. PLEASE let justice be served in this.
Don’t forget to get your food, water, rolls of plastic and duct tape ready, put batteries in the old radio so you can get NPR, sit back and relax. They are going to scream a lot, but if it all does go down like it should we are going to have a great take back America party. …..Blessings
I hope for the best, expect the worst. These guys are so sneaky, underhanded, unethical, rotten to the core that I will not be surprised if they slip out of it. I really hope they don’t. I would love to think that American Justice still lives.
The masses that swear by their every move will be so much more emboldened if they slip. And, the Dem conspiracy theories will proliferate if they slip. Then again, isn’t this all Clinton’s fault? [gag!]
With Goss heading the CIA, I don’t trust them to be completely honest. I know that that is taken for granted with any “intellegence agency” but this guy was put there to specifically cover bushco’s ass.
We’ll see how it plays out but I bet they come out and say, “Oh, no damage was done, so we aren’t going to pursue it”.
Kindness #11 I sure hope this is not the case. We need to get these people out of office because they will try to put that “Martial Law” on us. I don’t trust them at all.
This may be one of those moments in history that defines a nation for years to come. Either we are a law abiding republic attempting to become a democracy. Or we are no better than Germany during the 1930’s. To me this whole matter is indeed that important.
Did I mention the mood swings between fear, concern, and hope at the outcome?
It must have been a week or two ago that a list was published of 21 BushCo members allegedly involved in Plame-gate. I don’t think Bush was on that list.
Is he #22?? Does this give new meaning to the term, Catch 22?!?!
Karl Rove
I. Lewis “Scooter†Libby
Condoleezza Rice
Stephen Hadley
Andrew Card
Alberto Gonzales
Mary Matalin
Ari Fleischer
Susan Ralston
Israel Hernandez
John Hannah
Scott McClellan
Dan Bartlett
Claire Buchan
Catherine Martin
Colin Powell
Karen Hughes
Adam Levine
Bob Joseph
Vice President Dick Cheney
President George W. Bush
Don’t get too excited. You’re setting yourselves up for a big letdown. If I were a betting man, and I am, I would put money on the fact that nothing big will come of this. Unfortunately.
Nobody’s going to jail for maybe talking about someone who happens to work in a CIA office on matters of little importance. Her life was never even close to being in danger unless she fell asleep at her desk and hit her head.
Are they all bad guys – YES. But, come on! Firings, impeachments, prison… Every time someone comes up with some beaurocratic technicality, many liberals start calling for heads to roll.
The world laughed over the time and money wasted on the Clinton “affair”. Let’s not give them more to laugh about.
Don’t forget Thorn, that outing the contact outs all her contacts. I wouldn’t be surprised if agents have already been killed due to this leak.
It would not be a waste if we actually get to convict!
The case against Clinton was weak and stupid to begin with, but this one has a lot of meat to it.
So let’s all hope for a nice big party when they go down!
ThornNYC
I think you are mistaken. Plame’s company was deeply involved in operations uncovering nuclear proliferation around the world. It is believed there was a sting operation going on at the time Cheney blew her cover. Don’t believe the Fox News claims that she was a desk clerk – she was an operative – and not only she, but the entire company, its operations, and its connecitons have all been blown.
This is being demeaned by the Republicans who wasted 8 years of investigations and millions of tax dollars on where and when Clinton had sex. Clinton’s problems were all his – Ken Starr made them ours; Bush’s problems are all over his administration and they have cost us in lives, blood, billions, integrity, prestige and security.
If anything the charges won’t be for leaking Plame’s name, but rather for conspiracy, perjury, and obstruction of justice. The Intelligence Identities Protection Act is rather strictly worded. It’s FAR FAR easier to prove conspiracy, perjury, and obstruction of justice.
Cool. People actually have thoughtful discussions here… unlike so many other blogs. Nice to know.
Jennty #27 I won’t pretend to be a lawyer. But, I think you are right for the most part. I am still skeptical about any good cases being made against any of the big fish on this though.
Good Morning America How Are Ya, This week is looking better all the time. Get ready boys and girls, now the fun games begin…Blessings
October 6th, 2005 at 9:13 amI have my popcorn.
October 6th, 2005 at 9:27 amI pray to every diety known to man that this will not turn out to be a HUGE disappointment. I fear this is like all of the hype that precedes a summer block-buster movie and then it turns out to be nothing. PLEASE let justice be served in this.
October 6th, 2005 at 9:29 amIf this crew actually gets indicted. I’m going to toast Justice cause then I will believe she is alive and well in America….
Its time for all good men come to the aid of their country…….
Facism Will Come To America wrapped In The Flag Carrying The Cross.. S. Lewis….
Watch the Terror alert Folks, Watch The(msm) News and The W.H. Hype The Avian Flu Virus and Watch For the Military become The National Police Force…..
October 6th, 2005 at 9:29 amThis makes me very happy. YES, YES, YES, Bring out the Champagne!!!!
October 6th, 2005 at 9:33 amDon’t forget to get your food, water, rolls of plastic and duct tape ready, put batteries in the old radio so you can get NPR, sit back and relax. They are going to scream a lot, but if it all does go down like it should we are going to have a great take back America party. …..Blessings
October 6th, 2005 at 9:36 amI hope for the best, expect the worst. These guys are so sneaky, underhanded, unethical, rotten to the core that I will not be surprised if they slip out of it. I really hope they don’t. I would love to think that American Justice still lives.
October 6th, 2005 at 9:39 amI am with you Jennty.
October 6th, 2005 at 9:43 amJennty,
The masses that swear by their every move will be so much more emboldened if they slip. And, the Dem conspiracy theories will proliferate if they slip. Then again, isn’t this all Clinton’s fault? [gag!]
October 6th, 2005 at 9:55 amMary Poppin, champagne? I do so love the bubbly. Hmmm popcorn and a bit of the bubbly sounds very chic. I think…YES.
October 6th, 2005 at 10:00 amWith Goss heading the CIA, I don’t trust them to be completely honest. I know that that is taken for granted with any “intellegence agency” but this guy was put there to specifically cover bushco’s ass.
We’ll see how it plays out but I bet they come out and say, “Oh, no damage was done, so we aren’t going to pursue it”.
Who’se taking bets?
October 6th, 2005 at 10:25 amKindness #11 I sure hope this is not the case. We need to get these people out of office because they will try to put that “Martial Law” on us. I don’t trust them at all.
October 6th, 2005 at 10:39 amRumors have it 22 indictments. I just hope that Bush and Cheney are among them.
At least named as “un-indicted co-conspirators”. That in itself would be terrific.
October 6th, 2005 at 10:40 amAn Indictment a Day Sends the Repugs Away!
October 6th, 2005 at 11:03 amAnyone have any actual articles? The link just goes to a generic home page that doesn’t mention anything related.
Z.
October 6th, 2005 at 11:05 am22 huh? That would be completely sweet. Let’s hope Rove & Libby are amongst the xmas presents.
October 6th, 2005 at 11:12 amI mean Scooter or whatever his name is…sorry.
October 6th, 2005 at 11:12 amThis may be one of those moments in history that defines a nation for years to come. Either we are a law abiding republic attempting to become a democracy. Or we are no better than Germany during the 1930’s. To me this whole matter is indeed that important.
Did I mention the mood swings between fear, concern, and hope at the outcome?
October 6th, 2005 at 11:15 amIt must have been a week or two ago that a list was published of 21 BushCo members allegedly involved in Plame-gate. I don’t think Bush was on that list.
Is he #22?? Does this give new meaning to the term, Catch 22?!?!
Ohhh…let it be true
Styve
October 6th, 2005 at 11:34 amGot the list, and Bush is Lucky #21!
Karl Rove
October 6th, 2005 at 11:45 amI. Lewis “Scooter†Libby
Condoleezza Rice
Stephen Hadley
Andrew Card
Alberto Gonzales
Mary Matalin
Ari Fleischer
Susan Ralston
Israel Hernandez
John Hannah
Scott McClellan
Dan Bartlett
Claire Buchan
Catherine Martin
Colin Powell
Karen Hughes
Adam Levine
Bob Joseph
Vice President Dick Cheney
President George W. Bush
Don’t get too excited. You’re setting yourselves up for a big letdown. If I were a betting man, and I am, I would put money on the fact that nothing big will come of this. Unfortunately.
October 6th, 2005 at 11:51 amNovak should be on the list as well.
October 6th, 2005 at 12:25 pmWhy isn’t Novak on the list? He is one that wrote the story.
October 6th, 2005 at 12:37 pmNobody’s going to jail for maybe talking about someone who happens to work in a CIA office on matters of little importance. Her life was never even close to being in danger unless she fell asleep at her desk and hit her head.
Are they all bad guys – YES. But, come on! Firings, impeachments, prison… Every time someone comes up with some beaurocratic technicality, many liberals start calling for heads to roll.
The world laughed over the time and money wasted on the Clinton “affair”. Let’s not give them more to laugh about.
October 6th, 2005 at 2:19 pmDon’t forget Thorn, that outing the contact outs all her contacts. I wouldn’t be surprised if agents have already been killed due to this leak.
October 6th, 2005 at 2:38 pmIt would not be a waste if we actually get to convict!
The case against Clinton was weak and stupid to begin with, but this one has a lot of meat to it.
So let’s all hope for a nice big party when they go down!
ThornNYC
October 6th, 2005 at 3:09 pmI think you are mistaken. Plame’s company was deeply involved in operations uncovering nuclear proliferation around the world. It is believed there was a sting operation going on at the time Cheney blew her cover. Don’t believe the Fox News claims that she was a desk clerk – she was an operative – and not only she, but the entire company, its operations, and its connecitons have all been blown.
This is being demeaned by the Republicans who wasted 8 years of investigations and millions of tax dollars on where and when Clinton had sex. Clinton’s problems were all his – Ken Starr made them ours; Bush’s problems are all over his administration and they have cost us in lives, blood, billions, integrity, prestige and security.
If anything the charges won’t be for leaking Plame’s name, but rather for conspiracy, perjury, and obstruction of justice. The Intelligence Identities Protection Act is rather strictly worded. It’s FAR FAR easier to prove conspiracy, perjury, and obstruction of justice.
October 6th, 2005 at 3:11 pmCool. People actually have thoughtful discussions here… unlike so many other blogs. Nice to know.
Jennty #27 I won’t pretend to be a lawyer. But, I think you are right for the most part. I am still skeptical about any good cases being made against any of the big fish on this though.
October 7th, 2005 at 11:47 amSara # 25. That’s a scary thought… do we have any way of knowing if there is any truth to it?
Marie # 26. I won’t stay in a room with FOX NEWS playing on a television. It is sickening what those types have done to our country.
But, I don’t know about this “sting” to which you refer. Does that come from a credible source?
October 7th, 2005 at 11:52 am