Three Years Ago Today, Bush Misled Us Into War
By on Oct 7th, 2005 at 11:26 am
Three Years Ago Today, Bush Misled Us Into War
Three years ago today, President Bush visited Cincinnati to deliver a major address outlining the reasons for war, just as Congress was considering whether to vote in favor of giving Bush the authorization to attack Iraq. On October 7, 2002, Bush made a number of misleading and exaggerated statements about the Iraqi threat.
We’ve conducted a line-by-line debunking of Bush’s 2002 speech that demonstrates how the American public was misled into the Iraq war. See the full report here.
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Just the thought of these statements makes me angry.
October 7th, 2005 at 11:34 amAnd he’s been misleading and lying to us ever since. Of course, he never told us the one about his orders from God. Perhaps he thought even his conservative base wouldn’t buy that one.
October 7th, 2005 at 11:35 amProud day in American History.
October 7th, 2005 at 11:37 amI was never big on “the end justifies the means”.
October 7th, 2005 at 11:39 amEven if the outcome WERE good, you still lose
part of your soul through the deceit.
And how many terriorist acts have been successful after 9/11 in the United States?
October 7th, 2005 at 11:43 am#6: Terrorist attacks by dark-skinned middle-eastern religious fundamentalists only? I can’t think of any. Terrorist attacks by white middle-aged republican fundamentalists only? All of them.
Terrorism: The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
Think about that definition, now think about this administration. Threatened use of force? Yes. Organized group of people? Yes. Intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments? Yes. For ideological or politicial reasons? Yes.
Pogo was right.
October 7th, 2005 at 11:51 amTrolls seem touchy. I can’t imagine why.
October 7th, 2005 at 11:54 amGOP, your corruption is showing.
how many terriorist acts have been successful?
Unsure. You mean like Boston Terriors? Excuse me, Terriers? Probably a few. Not many. They tend to be friendly little dogs.
October 7th, 2005 at 11:55 amOutstanding summary – thanks.
I’m a believer in the thesis that Bush and his top cronies basically thought the following: “We are going to use fear, exaggerations, and distortions to get the American people to support invading Iraq – even if our means are caught (which they were), Saddam will do something stupid along the way where our means will easily be justified. But a funny think happened along the way: Saddam didn’t really doing anything stupid – we did.
October 7th, 2005 at 11:57 am#6, “terriorist acts”
Anyone else see what the cuts to public education funding are doing?
October 7th, 2005 at 11:58 am#9 – :-)
October 7th, 2005 at 11:58 am#6 Luck Fibber,
How many Americans have died young since Bush took office as a result of his decisions and ineptitiude?
Like I’ve said in the past, it’s the “half-mast” presidency, so many funerals so little time.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:02 pmthis is the way to do it… point-by-point analysis makes a very strong case… if only neocons were willing to believe what’s right in front of them…
October 7th, 2005 at 12:02 pmYou don’t need the 2004 Duelfer Report to debunk the Cincinnati speech claims. Evidence available AT THE TIME that contradicted the Bush claims (Energy dept dissent on Aluminium tubes, U.S. Ambassador to Niger’s State dept report on Yellowcake, later confirmed by Wilson, statements from defecting scientists etc) were MORE THAN ENOUGH to push for a continued inspections regime…
And that’s the key thing. Bush apologists will say, “well the Duelfer report only came in 2004″. The fact is that the BUshies exaggerated CIA reports to the maximum and ignored all dissenting viewpoints. That’s where the misleading happened.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:10 pmJust because they haven’t attacked us doesn’t mean they haven’t been busy elsewhere! England, Spain, Bali, Iraq, Egypt… So much for the GLOBAL part of the GLOBAL WAR ON TURRRR.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:11 pmIt is also the half vast presidency–a lot of vast projects with half-vast smarts.
AN INDICTMENT A DAY PUTS BUSHCO AWAY!
October 7th, 2005 at 12:12 pmNot to be perverted, but I think my bird moved a little bit!
Spin that, Mehlman!
October 7th, 2005 at 12:17 pmIf three years ago today is the beginning of the countdown, it has also been three years ago today since the Democratic Party first failed to stand up to Bush on his Iraq policy. THREE YEARS AND COUNTING!
October 7th, 2005 at 12:17 pmIt is hard to believe that it was three years ago that Bushie told us his lies. Maybe he will be gone by 2008. America cann’t take much more of him and his administration. Hopeful this will be the beginning of the end of Bushie.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:22 pm#18 Alvord Not all the Dems voted for this war. Senator Russ Feingold did not vote for this war. He wants to bring the troops home by the end of next year 2006.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:28 pmThe terrorist acts of 9/11 happened BECAUSE the Bush administration didn’t do anything.
You act as if we were being assulted by terrorists every day up until Bush took office, but we weren’t. There was Pearl Harbor… and then 9/11.
Before Bush, there were no attacks on the London Subway and busses, now there have been. There were no bombings of public places in Bali by terrorists before Bush, now, in 2002 there was the Bali nightclub bombing, the 2003 bomb at the Jakarta Marriott hotel, last year’s bomb at the Australian embassy in Jakarta and the most recent Bali bombing – all of that on Bushs watch. Before Bush there were not mass scares in the NYC subways, now there are (though I feel this scare was purpotrated by the government to scare us into supporting Bush). Iraq was not a breeding ground for terrorists, now it is.
As I see it, things in the way of terror have gotten worse under Bush, not better. Just because we haven’t been attacked here, doesn’t mean Bush is winning. We’ve BEEN safe overe here – only now Bush is making that small threat over seas get WORSE. And we may actually see terrorist threats get worse here in America.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:29 pm#23, I had that very same thought last night when I was watching the news regarding the NYC subway scare. I’m thoroughly convinced it’s a hoax and the terrorist organization is Washington.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:38 pmJunior’s defence: “God made me do it”.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:50 pmLiberals are so hopeless.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:55 pmLiberals are so hopeless, hopeless.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:55 pmLiberals are so hopeless. Liberals are so hopeless.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:55 pmLiberals = hopeless.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:56 pmLiberals are so pathetic.
October 7th, 2005 at 12:56 pmHopelessness…
October 7th, 2005 at 12:57 pmBushlandia keeps a lot of information from the people of this country.
One of the most important things they dont tell us is that the homicidal dictator is GEORGE DW. BUSH.
The man is a Nazi, with a Nazi upbringing. When asked by a professor in college who his hero was Bush could not make up his mind whether it was Hitler or Stalin.
The people of this country did not pay attention to all of the warning signals about this spoon fed infidel who has never mastered anything he has tried. The people did not believe that he deserted the National Guard.
Now a large chunk of the country does not believe that it was God who told him to attack Iraq. Why?
October 7th, 2005 at 12:57 pmHow can anyone be a liberal?
October 7th, 2005 at 12:57 pm>how many terriorist acts have been successful after 9/11
I can think of one that everyone has forgotten about… how about the Anthrax attacks? Where are we with that investigation?
October 7th, 2005 at 12:59 pmLuck Fiberals,
Where did you learn to write so eloquently?
F Scott Fitzgerald is rolling over in his grave. I should say, Fitzgerald is a great 20th Century writer, the other Fitzgerald is the one that you should be worried about.
October 7th, 2005 at 1:01 pmI’m thinking Luck Fiberals doesn’t have a job.
October 7th, 2005 at 1:02 pmHMM, I suppose that soon we will witness the absense of Luck Fiberals in the posts and suddenly, some new name appearing.
What a great tactic.
Kudos to you, trollio!
October 7th, 2005 at 1:04 pm#19 – That is without a doubt the funniest thing I have read in sum time. “okay the 9/11 event went as planned …now we need to get the 200 Israeli spies out of the country while NYC is burning.”
#32 – So all of the Hitler and Stalin adoration was kept a secret by his political opponents while he ran in various elections? Where do you guys get this kind of information? I mean use some common sense. Try to anyway.
October 7th, 2005 at 1:06 pmIt’s hard to debunk so many coincidences and already connected dots, I must agree. Not to mention what Cheney was doing on the morning of 9/11, the inexplicable non-reaction to the Aug. 6th PDB, the filmed collapse of the adjacent Trade Center Building (bldng. 7?) that was clearly a controlled demolition, GOP ties to WTC security…..and on…and on….
October 7th, 2005 at 1:39 pmLuck Fiberals,
You obviously have so little ammunition to argue with that you are resorting to simply degradation, and slander. Much like your Republican “right wing” brothers and sisters.
“Only those who slavishly worship success can think that effectiveness is admirable, without regard to what is affected.” –Bertrand Russell
October 7th, 2005 at 1:51 pmFolks, would you attribute your posts? I’m interested to see where these absurdly long but well-spoken columns come from.
October 7th, 2005 at 2:01 pm#33 – Excellent question!!! There are three general reasons why one subscribes to contemporary liberalism.
October 7th, 2005 at 2:01 pm1.) These are people who FEEEEL more deeply AND righteously than EVERYONE else. Ever notice how libs are always trotting out their favourite phrase du jour, “for the children”. Liberals may be recognized in a crowd as they often have longer arms than everyone else. (This from patting themselves on the back for “caring more” – ad nauseum.)
2.) Contemporary liberals vehemently believe they have more knowledge – hence better “insight” – than EVERYONE else. Notice how they refer to ALL who disagree with them as STUPID. It should be noted that the majority of universities are infected with ultra liberal professors who are bent on infecting impressionable students – to paraphrase Josef Stalin, “Those who control education will end up controlling a country.” Many of these professorial types love the idea of working nine months – yet whine incessantly about how underpaid they are.
3.) Many contemporary liberals relish their “victimhood” – such victimhood provides them with the “underdog” status so heartwarmingly portrayed in films and literature – thus meeting a need for a missing sense of importance. Victimhood also accounts for the nagging sense of envy utilized in many progressive arguments. “Tax the rich…”, “The greedy rich…”, “The uncaring, heartless rich..” are part and parcel of an authentic progressive argument. and finally, while extolling their victimhood, liberals plead for tolerance. They ask us to tolerate (or understand) the mitigating circumstances of a wide array of criminals (the latest evidence of this is known in the criminal justice community as the “medicalization of deviance”). And yet, their tolerance for those who disagree with their stance is NOT tolerated. Liberals are life GREATEST score keepers: they like to work less and earn more, they demand employment for the incompetent and lazy and are disgusted by the notion of rewarding the productive. There is a sub-category of the “victimhood” section. Many scholastically influenced and naive liberals have tremendous feelings of angst and guilt for being so blessed to have (pick one or more): good parents, good educational opportunites, a good career, the privelege of living in this great country – with all of it’s imperfections. For this reason, they criticize EVERYTHING that is the NORM in an effort to spread EQUALITY. The true INSIDIOUSNESS of liberalism is the failure to recognize that EQUAL outcomes are impossible to guarantee without TOTALITARIANISM.
Your Friday Reading
Lengthy list of links tackling everything from yesterday’s Bush speech to the one three years ago, some Arkansas media chatter and a couple of odd notes from the religous front.
October 7th, 2005 at 2:02 pmIn hindsight his comments are even more infuriating and outrageous to me than they were at the time. And I was opposed to the war from the start – never believing the White House, but reading essays and commentaries and reports from people who I thought knew the facts – and they were right: Bush was wrong. Today Bush is even more wrong and that just makes me more angry.
October 7th, 2005 at 2:06 pm#48 LOL!
October 7th, 2005 at 2:12 pm#20, I like your thinking.
October 7th, 2005 at 2:18 pm#49 – Marie – Lenin had a name for people like you – “useful idiot”.
October 7th, 2005 at 2:19 pmMighty The only “idiot” IS YOU.
October 7th, 2005 at 2:22 pmHey mighty ass-bitey,
October 7th, 2005 at 2:25 pmyou insult my friend marie again and I’ll personally kick yer fuvkin’ ass for ya.
And the kicker:
The exact words keep shuffling and recombining, but the formula never varies: attack them by declaring that they are attacking us, encourage hatred against them by suggesting that they hate us, undermine respect for their right to speak by asserting that they are trying to silence us, legitimize the most elaborate campaigns against them by revealing their conspiracies against us, justify our incivility toward them by pouncing on the least sign of disrespect in their treatment of us, and respond to charges like these by adducing a few examples to the effect of “they’re really the ones who are doing that to us”. Regardless of the psychology that might inwardly motivate them, the outward effect of these rhetorical devices is to project the rhetor’s own aggression onto the object of that aggression, refusing personal responsibility by portraying all of one’s actions as responses necessitated by the aggressive other. This denial of responsibility is routinely found in domestic violence cases, for example. Its most important product is confusion: simply being exposed to it makes clear thinking difficult, and its absolute genius is that any attempt to identify it (like my own here) is readily portrayed as precisely an example of it.
Phil Agre, RRE April 22nd 1995
This is Phil Agre’s home page.
http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/pagre/
Just laugh when it calls you an idiot. It doesn’t know it is an idiot.
October 7th, 2005 at 2:31 pmIdiot? read the tail end of this thread here:
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/04/it-takes-more-than-a-cabinet-post/
October 7th, 2005 at 2:33 pmRead about the horrors of failed conservatism here:
Richard Hofstadter’s Essay, The Paranoid Style in American Politics:
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/conspiracy_theory/the_paranoid_mentality/The_paranoid_style.html
“Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition”
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hannahk/bulletin.pdf
Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.
Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.
These ideas are not new. Indeed they were common sense until recently. Nowadays, though, most of the people who call themselves “conservatives” have little notion of what conservatism even is. They have been deceived by one of the great public relations campaigns of human history. Only by analyzing this deception will it become possible to revive democracy in the United States.
http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/pagre/conservatism.html
October 7th, 2005 at 2:37 pm#46 Shorter Comment by mighty aphrodite
I hate stupid liberals. They are always victimizing me.
October 7th, 2005 at 2:40 pm#46 Shorter Comment by mighty aphrodite, slightly longer version.
“I hate stupid liberals. There attempts to frustrate my complete and utter destruction and elimination of them is an act of agression I am constantly the victim of.”
October 7th, 2005 at 2:49 pmHi, Plunger,
I enjoy your posts; however, it isn’t necessary to post dups on every thread.
Thx!
October 7th, 2005 at 3:18 pmI understand your desire to “scream from the rooftops.”
Just thought I would let you know because people can get pretty mean in here about the little things. .
No offense taken at all. Like I said, I enjoy your posts very much.
Keep on keeping on!
October 7th, 2005 at 3:33 pmHuh,
Mighty Windbag has what’s called a ‘persecution complex’ and is part of Schizophrenia. It’s often hereditary, so most likely he/she inherited this and the other childhoold family abuse patterns that often seem to go with this. Many people of the ‘desert religions’ seem to suffer from this affliction, and many believe this is what draws them to aspects of these religions. Those who suffer from this illness persecute others, and anyone who rejects their persecution is accused of persecuting them. So for instance a bigot who’s racist or homophobic and who’s told that his actions to discriminate are unacceptable goes on television and says that the people he/she’s trying to persecute is anti-religious…
It’s a common psychosis, and seems particularly common among Reichwingers… They always talk about christians being persecuted in rome, but rome was an empire for 1000 years, and persecuted christians for a total of 12 of them. The ‘christian empire’ headed by rome lasted for 1000 years, and persecuted all other religions the entire time…
Here’s a little description of schizophrenia I posted to make it clearer what these poor schmucks are suffering from…
Research has suggested that schizophrenia is associated with a slight increase in risk of violence, although this risk is largely due to a small sub-group of individuals for whom violence is associated with concurrent substance abuse, active delusional beliefs of threat or persecution, and ceasing effective treatment for previous violent behavior41.
For the most serious acts of violence, long-term independent studies of convicted murderers in both New Zealand42 and Sweden43 found that only 8.7%–8.9% had been given a previous diagnosis of schizophrenia.
Furthermore, research has shown that a person diagnosed with schizophrenia is more likely to be a victim of violence than the perpetrator44. Frequently, this is a result of the victims inability to function well and maintain proper behavior and thinking in the public sphere, and violent action is taken upon the victim while the perpetrator is most often unaware that the victim has a crippling mental illness. People with schizophrenia who wind up in prison (often indirectly as a result of their illness) are also highly prone to being victims of violence, as many fellow inmates fail to make a distinction between the perceptions and behavior of a person with mental illness as with a person who expresses normal behavior.
There is some evidence to suggest that in some people, the drugs used to treat schizophrenia may produce an increased risk for violence, largely due to agitation induced by akathisia, a side effect sometimes associated with antipsychotic medication45. Similarly, abuse experienced in childhood may contribute both to a slight increase in risk for violence in adulthood, as well as the development of schizophrenia46.
October 7th, 2005 at 3:39 pmRyan Neat – you da’ bomb. I ALWAYS believed them crazy wingers were pathological. Like I posted in another thread, pro-war=pro-death penalty=pro-life. No wonder they are so mixed up. We just have to figure out what went wrong early on and try to stop it from happening to other innocent children.
October 7th, 2005 at 3:44 pmMA is like one of those bratty kids we all knew from the playground. Always sniping and trying to make other kids cry with their tough-sounding words — but we all learned that kids like that were really covering up for their own deficiencies in life.
October 7th, 2005 at 3:54 pmSimple psychology for simple people.
Just so you know, being both pro-capital punishment and “pro-life” (as in anti-abortion) is not necessarily a contradiction, depending on one’s reasons for being anti-abortion.
October 7th, 2005 at 4:39 pmHow quickly libs forget the statements from the previous administration. Operation Desert Fox was based on lies. Agree?
October 7th, 2005 at 4:45 pmHey, Aphrodite, your post #46 was well written and made some good points. It was pretty deep stuff for a redneck like me to read, but I made it through it after my second beer. Really, I don’t thing all the liberals here would totally disagree with everything you said. Like that part that they “like to work less and earn more.” Hell, even the rightwing guys busting their humps down at the plant to make the CEO richer would go for that. Of course you don’t work in a plant sweating and having your benefits cut. I remember that you once mentioned you were in the top 2% tax bracket so you can afford to be a far right ideologue.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but your quote by Stalin saying, “Those who control education will end up controlling the country” was awsome. I mean, that was a outright eyeopener. First thing I thought of was our “education President”, and the creation of all those private, Christian fundamentalist schools that have sprung up that are now getting our tax dollars at the expense of public schooling. I bet you are all for “intelligent design” and prayin’ in class, huh? Like the muslims and the Taliban demand, and cults like those of Jim Jones and David Koresh did before they had their people scarifice their lives.
Me too.
October 7th, 2005 at 4:59 pm“Just so you know, being both pro-capital punishment and “pro-life†(as in anti-abortion) is not necessarily a contradiction, depending on one’s reasons for being anti-abortion.
Comment by cj ”
That’s nonsense. The only arguments about pro-life involve ‘protecting the innocent’, and yet 2 dozen ‘innocent’ people who were proven innocent after death have occured in the US (many others were probably also innocent). The reality is that if you wish to protect the innocent, then you can’t be for the death penalty as some innocent will ALWAYS be falsely accused. Otherwise you aren’t about protecting the lives of the innocent, you’re about ‘power’, so the arguments for both are entirely inconsistent…
The problem with most people who are pro-life is they cannot think of this in the context of an overall set of values. In isolation they believe their values are ‘good’, but they are completely inconsistent and contradictary when seen through the lense of a more comprehensive assessment..
October 7th, 2005 at 5:16 pm#6. “And how many terriorist acts have been successful after 9/11 in the United States?”
Congrats on the fallacious logic. At least you have that going for you.
October 7th, 2005 at 7:19 pmWar Protest – Nov 10 2005 Take a day off! – Please Read
If you feel, as the majority of Americans and people throughout the world do, that the war in Iraq is wrong, and you wish you had a way to show the Bush Administration, the Government of the United States, and the world, how you feel about it, then join us in our world wide walk out on November 10th 2005.
Show the world how you feel, and just how many of us feel this way. Let’s drive the point home by taking away from them their most precious item; money.
On November 10th 2005, unless you hold a position which people rely upon in the event of an emergency (you work at a hospital, a firemen, policemen etc), don’t go to work. Try not to drive your car; don’t watch T.V.; don’t use the internet. Stay at home. Read a book. Play with your kids. Engage in a hobby.
Plan a vacation day at work. Call in sick. Use your best judgment on how to take this day off.
If we don’t get their attention this way, we’ll just do it again, until we do.
If the people speak, and speak together, they have to listen.
Please email this to as many of your friends and colleagues as you wish/can.
October 7th, 2005 at 7:41 pmTake the war protest thread. Put it in an email, send it to your friends.
Post it on Craigslist in the Community/Politics section.
Title it: War Protest – November 10, 2005 – Take a day off!
We can’t post the same thread more then once, and there are only so many ways to say it.
Post it on all your blogs!! GET THE WORD OUT!!
October 7th, 2005 at 8:07 pmI bet Colin Powell keeps asking himself over and over, “Why did I do it? Why, why, why did I lie for that bastard? I trashed my whole career, my entire legacy and my integrity for George Bush.”
I can only imagine what he goes through each and every day knowing that he was once considered the most trustworthy beaurocrat in America. That’s what happens when you sell you soul. He could have been president if he really wanted to. Now, he’s just going to fade away. Pity… for the likes of George Bush. That’s a damn shame.
October 7th, 2005 at 8:27 pmJust a note to the Bushco: “you can fool you friends/about the way it ends/but you can’t fool yourself.” J. Kaukonen I’m personally awaiting the day the the great canard of the early 21st century is seen for what it is – oil for Halliburton profit. Onward Christian soldiers for the truly deceived.
October 7th, 2005 at 9:00 pm-Kevo
Darn it Smedley, you guys picked the same day as us. We thought Nov.10th would be the day where we would show our support for the War effort. We plan on showing this support by making sure we all makes it to work that day, even if we are a little ill. No car pooling either, we’ll all be driving individual vehicles wherever possible. Oh yeah, and we will just keep doing this every day too, until you guys start to pay attention and listen to reason.
October 7th, 2005 at 9:11 pmHey Mighty,
Is this your website?
(caution, Adult Material)
http://www.spamfreeforums.com/Almighty_Aphrodite/
October 7th, 2005 at 9:21 pm# 81 Plunger: Yeah, that’s also why Tony Blair is Georgie’s little lap dog. When he’s done screwing England he has a new contract to “consult” for The Carlyle Group starting at a half-million a year + benefits and options. We all know what that means. It sure is proftiable being a toadie these days.
October 7th, 2005 at 9:53 pmThe salient points of this article, to me, are:
October 8th, 2005 at 9:46 am1) Bush KNEW virtually all of the facts contradicting his false 10/7/02 remarks when he gave those remarks.
2) There was ample PUBLIC knowledge, either of these facts, or of significant doubt about Bush’s allegations PRIOR to the congressional votes in October 2002.
3) My senator, John Kerry, and all Members of Congress who gave the Pampered Fratboy a blank check will forever have blood on their hands and cannot be forgiven until they admit their vote was a gross mistake and apologize for this mistake.
4) Bush’s fraudulent war is a grave crime against the nation and he should be impeached, no question.
listening to Zombie by the Cranberries and one thing goes through my head……more American lives lost and our people suffer. ALL FOR LIES. All for a foreign policy that breeds trouble and problems so that the industrial military complex can make money. sacrificing our own American people and others of the world. Creating and allowing dictatorships form as long as they do our bidding. Is it not strange how Saddam and Osama Bin Laden was one of our own. Now we go to war with them, wait that is right we already did. Now it is against a radcical fundamentalist religious oriented group of people. They were always there but now they are showing themselves. BULL WHY MUST WE DO THIS. TO PROGRESSIVER WEBSITE RIGHT ON!!!! KEEP IT GOING KEEP THE CHANNELS OF DISSENT AND OPINION OPEN……THANK YOU FOR BEING A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT.
October 8th, 2005 at 9:55 amMany of us grew up having seen The Wizzard of Oz. Half the population missed the part where the wicked witch was exposed as a fraud. That half are now the ‘Believers’ of George Bush. Any rational and thinking person MUST have found it incredible to hear Colin Powell speak about Saddam’s UAV program with pictures of a model airplane held together with duct tape. Admirals and Generals watching his presentation to the world must have been horrified. That was scarry projection at it’s most absurd. For all of those out there that still have belief in anything Bush says, I suggest seeking psychological help.
October 8th, 2005 at 10:07 amGood, I hate the BFEE and the Carlyle Group. Its like a goddamn WASP mafia.
October 8th, 2005 at 10:20 amI Think your headline should be “Bush Lied US into War”.
October 8th, 2005 at 10:28 am#81 Plunger
October 8th, 2005 at 7:54 pmColin Powell is affiliated with Carlyle? If that’s so, then all questions are answered. Disappointingly answered, but answered. I am not surprised at Blair. The man talks so well, but his purposes are questionable.
Lay off Tony Blair, there has been no mention over here in Britain, about any ties with ‘The Carlyle Group’. The British media would be all over a story like this, if there was any credence to it.
And by the way, Tony Blair is the Prime Minister of Britain, not just England. Great Britain, (England, Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland).
October 8th, 2005 at 10:46 pmNatashayi
Thanks for the nice read, keep up the interesting posts..
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