Opponents of Harriet Miers’ nomination are criticizing President Bush for selecting someone they find entirely unqualified for a Supreme Court appointment.
But today on Fox News Sunday, in an attempt to assuage conservative activists, Brit Hume offered this explanation of Bush’s choice: Miers may be unqualified when compared to white men, but judged against minorities and other women, she is actually the cream of the crop:
WILLIAM KRISTOL: I was opposed to the president nominating [Alberto] Gonzalez, but I think it is absolutely the case just on the merits that Judge Gonzalez was more qualified than Harriet Meiers.
BRIT HUME: I think, Chris, that to the extent that the president flinched, he flinched on this point, and that is he decided it had to be a woman and/or a minority, and that narrowed the field. And I think it’s also the case that while he had just named to the appellate bench some quite likely seeming candidates, Priscilla Owen being one, Janice Rogers Brown another, and after prolonged battles, lasting years, gotten them confirmed, I think that he was still operating from a much narrower list. And in that context, she looked much better than she would have against a full field, men and women alike.
UPDATE: Crooks and Liars has the video.
Yes, and eating a lump of clay is excellent when compared to eating a piece of hot lava.
What a stupid comparison.
October 9th, 2005 at 11:12 amBrit Humiliating.
October 9th, 2005 at 11:16 amHow can the partisans at Thinkprogress misquote somebody so poorly? Cause they are partisans at Thinkprogress.
He didn’t only say Miers was unqualified when put up against “white men”, but both a full field of men and women, which meant to include Janice “Black Woman” Rogers Brown and Priscilla “I have vagina, backoff” Owen, AND men like Alberto “Mexican” Gonzalez and Miquel “Brown skin” Estrada.
Stop making shit up Thinkprogress. You’d be smarter if you didn’t.
October 9th, 2005 at 11:31 amWow Lyle, you are one racist son of a bitch.
October 9th, 2005 at 11:40 amReally Spudge Boy? How so?
I’m not the one who stopped Miguel Estrada becoming a Federal Judge because of his skin color, Democrats did.
It’s you people who are racist and sexist. I’m not the one who hates and name calls Janice Rogers Brown or Prisciall Owen or Alberto Gonzalez. Yes, lots of us think Harriet Miers sucks and why? Because there are people out there like Miguel Estrada and Janice Rogers Brown.
Get over yoursevles liberals. And take your backhanded racism and sexism and shove it.
October 9th, 2005 at 11:45 amWhat?! Sorry I missed the smug SOB this morning — but I can’t watch Fox on an empty stomach.
October 9th, 2005 at 11:54 amMiers is not qualify to be on the Supreme Court. She was never a judge. I have to laugh at the Repubs as
October 9th, 2005 at 11:54 amthey were saying Dems should not ask Miers about her religious believes. I guess their is a double standard. I don’t know why Old Bushie thinks she is going to be confirmed. Does he have a crystal ball? How does Bushie know how she would vote on something in 20 years? Alot of things can happen in this world in that period of time.
I though the Supreme Court was suppose to be for all american not just the Right Wing Religious nuts.
What?!
October 9th, 2005 at 11:56 amSorry I missed the smug SOB this orning, but I don’t watch Fox much, particularly on an empty stomach.
Bush actually advertised that Miers will vote the way the Republicans want regardless of the issue so therefore she should be confirmed. She doesn’t need to comprehend judicial law or the Constitution – just trust him that she will vote their party line for the next twenty years — that’s the goal.
October 9th, 2005 at 12:01 pmThis is a terrible abuse of power by Bush – a flaunting of his scorn for the process – and an insult to the SCOTUS.
Bush actually advertised that Miers will in the future vote the way the Republicans want regardless of the issue so therefore she should be confirmed. She doesn’t need to comprehend judicial law or the Constitution – just trust him that she will vote their party line for the next twenty years — that’s the goal.
October 9th, 2005 at 12:03 pmThis is a terrible abuse of power by Bush – a flaunting of his scorn for the process – and an insult to the SCOTUS.
Marie,
It is not like other Presidents haven’t done it, especially the biggest Democratic of all time… Franklin D. Roosevelt!!!
October 9th, 2005 at 12:04 pmevidently the base isn’t comfortable with “closeted christianity…”
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/2005/10/bushs-base-we-dont-want-closeted.html
October 9th, 2005 at 12:05 pmBush actually advertised that Miers will, in the future, vote the way the Republicans want regardless of the issue so therefore she should be confirmed. She doesn’t need to comprehend judicial law or the Constitution – just trust him that she will vote their party line for the next twenty years — that’s the goal.
October 9th, 2005 at 12:05 pmThis is a terrible abuse of power by Bush – a flaunting of his scorn for the process – and an insult to the SCOTUS.
Sorry — the first post evaporated, so I typed again — now I see them both.
October 9th, 2005 at 12:07 pmI just realized why the plot started earlier in June from millers new note find.
CHENEY sent Wilson to Africa. Cheney HAD TO KNOW what Wilsons investigation was doing.
They already knew WAY before his oped piece that Wilson was going to find no such thing.
THAT is why the plotting started earlier.
October 9th, 2005 at 12:08 pmMeirs is a bushie plant, clear and simple. Stack the deck, etc. I hope every ‘plant’ is blown out till bushie is OUT OF OFFICE.
October 9th, 2005 at 12:15 pmI need you help, very badly.
I’m trying to get this war protest off the ground. I’m posting it as often as I can and as much as I can through CraigsList and email. But there is only so much I can do by myself…
If you would like to protest the war, by simply taking the day off of work on November 10th 2005, then please take my post off of this site that starts with “War Protest†and post it in as many places as you can. CraigsList, blogs, email, everywhere. Just take 10 minutes to help me get the ball rolling, and then take the 10th of November off. That’s all it would take. Anymore help beyond that which you think would be helpful, is greatly appreciated as well.
I can’t do it without your help.
Please.
Thanks
October 9th, 2005 at 12:25 pmTP is there something wrong with your site today? I keep dropping off, then find myself repeated later!
October 9th, 2005 at 12:26 pmMarie I am having the same problem.
October 9th, 2005 at 12:37 pmMarie, I am having the same problem.
October 9th, 2005 at 12:38 pm#
War Protest – Nov 10 2005 Take a day off! – Please Read
If you feel, as the majority of Americans and people throughout the world do, that the war in Iraq is wrong, and you wish you had a way to show the Bush Administration, the Government of the United States, and the world, how you feel about it, then join us in our world wide walk out on November 10th 2005.
Show the world how you feel, and just how many of us feel this way. Let’s drive the point home by taking away from them their most precious item; money.
On November 10th 2005, unless you hold a position which people rely upon in the event of an emergency (you work at a hospital, a firemen, policemen etc), don’t go to work. Try not to drive your car; don’t watch T.V.; don’t use the internet. Stay at home. Read a book. Play with your kids. Engage in a hobby.
Plan a vacation day at work. Call in sick. Use your best judgment on how to take this day off.
If we don’t get their attention this way, we’ll just do it again, until we do.
If the people speak, and speak together, they have to listen.
Please email this to as many of your friends and colleagues as you wish/can.
October 9th, 2005 at 12:39 pmNov 10th is also the USMC birthday,looks like I have a ‘day off’ comming up.
October 9th, 2005 at 12:47 pmMarie,
It is not like other Presidents haven’t done it, especially the biggest Democratic of all time… Franklin D. Roosevelt!!!
Comment by Lyle — October 9, 2005 @ 12:04 pm
Why would anyone in their right mind intentionally draw comparisons between FDR and Chimpy? Oh… nevermind.
October 9th, 2005 at 12:49 pmIf Miers makes it on the SCOTUS, my bet is she joins Thomas on the far right in Commerce Clause cases involving Congressional legislation (that is, finding them unconstitutional) and Executive Power cases (that is, giving the REPUBLICAN presidents a blank check).
On the other hand, I expect to see Scalia treat her with the same level of intellectual respect he treated SOC.
October 9th, 2005 at 1:05 pmWow Lyle, you are one racist son of a bitch.
Comment by SpudgeBoy — October 9, 2005 @ 11:40 am
Really Spudge Boy? How so?
I’m not the one who stopped Miguel Estrada becoming a Federal Judge because of his skin color, Democrats did.
It’s you people who are racist and sexist. I’m not the one who hates and name calls Janice Rogers Brown or Prisciall Owen or Alberto Gonzalez. Yes, lots of us think Harriet Miers sucks and why? Because there are people out there like Miguel Estrada and Janice Rogers Brown.
Get over yoursevles liberals. And take your backhanded racism and sexism and shove it.
Comment by Lyle — October 9, 2005 @ 11:45 am
He’s more shrill than… Krugman!
October 9th, 2005 at 1:21 pmSince Miers nomination, Hume has been trying his best to support Bush. This was just his attempt to distance himself a little bit from that support given all the conservative criticism of her. The best part of the Fox show was actually when Hume claimed that a Whitehouse background check on one of the other potential female SCOTUS nominees (one of the wingnut favorites) had found she had an extensive history as an activist. At this point William Kristol jumped all over Hume accusing him of pushing WhiteHouse talking points. The breakup among the different factions on the right is so much fun to watch.
October 9th, 2005 at 1:25 pmYou know, Lyle, it’s not racism or sexism, it’s ideologism. We discriminate based on conservativism. It doesn’t matter to us what color the skin or the gender of the person. It’s radicalism disguised as conservatism we abhor. We didn’t like Renquist or Clarence Thomas or “Prissy” Owen and race or gender had nothing to do with it. We are equal opportunity “high tech lynchers”. It’s very “progressive” of us, don’t you agree?
October 9th, 2005 at 1:31 pmWhat’s Fox.? LOL, sorry gang I don’t watch them, many of the other media, but, not fox.My gag reflex goes into over drive. Recent events with Miers are makeing me yawn with bordem bordering on falling asleep. Interesting the Dem’s. are staying quiet to some extent. Guess they figure, if they wait long enugh the Repub’s will knock her out of the game. I happen to think Miers is just a crony hack for Bushes personal and political use. Nothing more or less. I also don’t think she is qualified. Am I going to write my senators like I alway’s do.? You bet. Do I think it will do any good.? Probably not. Oh well it’s just another Sunday here in america and the Bush regeme….Blessings
October 9th, 2005 at 1:51 pmI hope americans do take off on November 2, 2005. I am unemployed. If I was working I would take the day off. I lost my job last year. I can not fine a good paying job.
October 9th, 2005 at 2:29 pmMaybe this will wakeup these jerks.
Dems shouldn’t be so complacent about Miers. If Bush is saying “Trust Me”, our immediate reaction should be to do the opposite and start asking questions. It is up to Dems to ask conservatives why they suddenly need to know so much about Ms. Miers. AND DO SO PUBLICLY!! WHERE THE HELL IS HOWARD DEAN TO CALL OUT THE CONSERVATIVE HYPOCRISY??!!
October 9th, 2005 at 3:30 pmLyle is so off base with his comments, he’s not worth addressing here.
October 9th, 2005 at 6:26 pmthe last person appointed to the SCOTUS who was not a judge was Rehnquist; why the hubub?
October 9th, 2005 at 6:46 pmthe last person appointed to the SCOTUS who was not a judge was Rehnquist; why the hubub?
Comment by TJM
Rehnquist was a filthy, racist piece of shit
It is election day in November of 1962. We are in Phoenix, Arizona, where a young former Supreme Court clerk is doing his unlevel best to see that Barry Goldwater is elected president. The young man, William H. Rehnquist, Esq., has been director of “ballot security†operations for the local Republican Party since 1958. On this day he is the sole Republican official at a polling station in south Phoenix, which is overwhelmingly African-American, Hispanic, and Democratic.
On that same day in Phoenix another young lawyer, James J. Brosnahan, is sitting in the office of the United States Attorney in Phoenix. Mr. Brosnahan, a graduate of Harvard Law School, is an assistant U.S. attorney.
Complaints of voter harassment are pouring in from precincts in south Phoenix. Republican challengers are said to be breaking the federal law which makes it a crime to “intimidate, threaten, or coerce . . . for the purpose of interfering with the right to vote.â€
Mr. Brosnahan is dispatched, along with an FBI agent, to investigate these charges of voter intimidation. Mr. Broshahan’s sworn testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee in 1986 follows:
“The complaints we received alleged in various forms that the Republican challengers were aggressively challenging many voters without having a basis for that challenge . . .
“Based on my interviews with others, polling officials, and my fellow assistant U.S. attorneys, it was my opinion in 1962 that the challenging effort was designed to reduce the number of black and Hispanic voters by confrontation and intimidation . . .
“When we arrived, the situation was tense. At that precinct I saw William Rehnquist, who was serving as the only Republican challenger (emphasis added). The FBI agent and I both showed our identifications to those concerned, including Mr. Rehnquist . . . The complaints did involve Mr. Rehnquist’s conduct. Our arrival and the showing of our identifications had a quieting effect on the situation and after interviewing several witnesses, we left. Criminal prosecution was declined as a matter of prosecutorial discretion . . .
“I have read the testimony and letter supplied by Justice Designate William Rehnquist to this committee in 1971 . . . He describes his role in the early 1960s as trying to arbitrate disputes at polling places. That is not what Mr. Rehnquist was doing when I saw him on Election Day in 1962.
“At page 491 of the 1971 Record in his letter, William Rehnquist stated: ‘In none of those years did I personally engage in challenging the qualifications of any voters.’ This does not comport with my recollection of the events I witnessed in 1962 when Mr. Rehnquist did serve as a challenger.â€
Let’s be fair, though. After all, Little Billy Rehnquist has come a long, long way from those early days in Arizona. It is 2,300 miles from south Phoenix to Washington.
October 9th, 2005 at 7:08 pmMake that a “filthy, lying, racist piece of shit”. Your typical GOPstapo agent these days.
October 9th, 2005 at 7:11 pmLyle is so off base with his comments, he’s not worth addressing here.
Comment by Marie — October 9, 2005 @ 6:26 pm
Lyle is the batterer who blames the battered woman for her own abuse. It actually works better here than in a situation like that. Eventually it works no more, like a drug you build up a tolerance to it, or a germ, an immunity.
The exact words keep shuffling and recombining, but the formula never varies: attack them by declaring that they are attacking us, encourage hatred against them by suggesting that they hate us, undermine respect for their right to speak by asserting that they are trying to silence us, legitimize the most elaborate campaigns against them by revealing their conspiracies against us, justify our incivility toward them by pouncing on the least sign of disrespect in their treatment of us, and respond to charges like these by adducing a few examples to the effect of “they’re really the ones who are doing that to us”. Regardless of the psychology that might inwardly motivate them, the outward effect of these rhetorical devices is to project the rhetor’s own aggression onto the object of that aggression, refusing personal responsibility by portraying all of one’s actions as responses necessitated by the aggressive other. This denial of responsibility is routinely found in domestic violence cases, for example. Its most important product is confusion: simply being exposed to it makes clear thinking difficult, and its absolute genius is that any attempt to identify it (like my own here) is readily portrayed as precisely an example of it.
October 9th, 2005 at 7:22 pmPhil Agre, RRE April 22nd 1995
[...] Brit Hume of Fox News has, according to Think Progress, found a new way to defend Bush’s supreme court nominee pick: she’s a woman. Women don’t get any more qualified than this. …I think that he was still operating from a much narrower list. And in that context, she looked much better than she would have against a full field, men and women alike. [...]
October 9th, 2005 at 9:26 pmHow can the partisans at Thinkprogress misquote somebody so poorly? Cause they are partisans at Thinkprogress.
He didn’t only say Miers was unqualified when put up against “white menâ€, but both a full field of men and women, which meant to include Janice “Black Woman†Rogers Brown and Priscilla “I have vagina, backoff†Owen, AND men like Alberto “Mexican†Gonzalez and Miquel “Brown skin†Estrada.
Stop making shit up Thinkprogress. You’d be smarter if you didn’t.
Lyle, know one has “made shit up”. Try reading the headline and the bold faced type in the story above one more time. Hume clearly says that, when considered in a pool of candidates made up only of minorities & women, Miers nomination looks stronger than in a “full field” of applicants. Since white men are pretty much all that’s left after you consider “minorities & women” that must mean that a “full field” really means the inclusion of white males, right ?
So the headline perfctly sums up Hume’s belief / ststement: Miers is qualified, at Least if she isn’t compared to white men.
October 9th, 2005 at 11:18 pmThinkProgress 1, Lying Racist Lyle 0!
October 9th, 2005 at 11:35 pmI thought Brit would merely repeat the mantra:
Trust Bush. He’s A Great Judge of Character.
October 9th, 2005 at 11:36 pmI have two words for Brit Hume:
Sandy Hume.
October 9th, 2005 at 11:36 pmBrit Hume’s dead gay son Sandy may have disagreed before he blew his head off.
October 10th, 2005 at 12:03 ami cant imagine sandy hume would be pleased.
October 10th, 2005 at 12:04 amGood God, Lyle is a study in foolishness. You’d almost think that it was the Democracts, and not the conservative Republicans, who have been coddling racists and lynch-mobs for the last 50 years. You’d almost think that the entire racist wing of the Democratic party hadn’t bolted the second that LBJ got the Civil Rights Act passed. You’d almost think that Nixon didn’t deliberatley scoop up those racist votes through his southern Strategy. But then you do think, and the whole silly business collapses in a heap of derisive laughter.
Ha ha ha.
October 10th, 2005 at 12:42 amputting aside lyle’s inability to understand what hume said, i’d like him to show us exactly what candidate as unqualified as harriet miers FDR put up for the court.
this should be fun….
October 10th, 2005 at 12:47 amI think Lyle, who is not worthy of addressing, can legitimately claim that Felix Frankfurter was a crony appointment by FDR
October 10th, 2005 at 1:16 amI take it Lyle is a resident troll here?
I love hearing Rethuglicans play the race card.
The same Rethuglicans who piss and moan about Jesse Jackson playing the race card.
October 10th, 2005 at 2:08 amJoe,
If you’re an Agre fan, I’m sure you’ve seen his ‘what is conservatism’ page at:
http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/pagre/conservatism.html
Anyone who hasn’t read this shoul REALLY take the time to do so. It talks about the methods and mechanics of language that republican freaks use to justify their inexecusable actions an policies. It’s a great read!
October 10th, 2005 at 3:22 amThe woman is unqualifired. Why? She has no history of judicial accomplishment. She simply was a lawuer for a politician. That’s it.
All the rest is either window dressing or claptrap.
Where are Miers’ considered legal opinions? Oh, she doesn’t have any? Hmmmm?
Chimpy is a fool, and Miers is just his tool.
October 10th, 2005 at 4:05 amI can describe Harriett Miers in two words.
“Obsequious Instrument”
October 10th, 2005 at 7:45 amObsequious Instrument”
This link should work
October 10th, 2005 at 7:48 amDear Judith Miller,
You must come in -
Come in from the cold.
The aspens have turned.
Earth has been moved, roots were split, and clusters are bombs.
Hogan was warm and Fitzgerald is warmer.
Tatel tales have been twice told.
Winter looms and so does discontent.
‘Tis time to part.
Truth is heat. Turn on the light.
“Out west,” it is cold and dark.
Head over to Hogan’s.
Pull a seat up to Fitzgerald.
Ask for the special.
It may warm you. You may like it.
You may not.
We shall see, we shall see ….
shan’t we?
With adumbration,
Gothamimage
October 10th, 2005 at 9:35 am#50 BS..Federalist 76 suggests that having a separate body giving advice and consent and the corresponding ‘possibility of rejection would be a strong motive to [have] care in proposing.’ any nominee. The ’shame and [fear] to bring forward, for the most distinguished [SCOTUS may just fit that bill] or lucrative stations [GAO chief procurement officer, perhaps?], candidates who have no other merit than that of coming from the same State [Miers] to which he personally belonged, or of being in some way or other personally allied to him [take your pick here],…’
October 10th, 2005 at 11:01 amLong has it been said that Bush has no fear…he stares down the enemy (behind his Secret Service detail) and dares them to ‘bring it on!’ and forcefully sends men and women to die over there so they won’t die here. It is clear that in the judgment of our forefathers, he also has no shame. Our ‘fearless’ leader is also shameless. And we wonder why so many Repubs are under investigation for criminal behavior for financial and security matters? It all starts at the top.
howard,
fdr tried to “pack the courts” with his people so his new deal program would survive. he failed to do this, but he did appoint people who worked with him during his presidency, like James F. Byrnes who quit after 16 months on the bench because it was “too hard”. Byrnes had no judicial experience, but was a Representative from South Carolina and was a close associate of FDR. Hugo Black was just a Senator with no prior judicial experience who was put on the court to make sure FDR’s New Deal survived.
Regardless, it is basic U.S. History that FDR tried to “pack the court” when SCOTUS didn’t do what he wanted it to do.
lbj also tried to nominate his friend and crony abe fortas as chief justice, but the senate wouldn’t let him.
October 10th, 2005 at 12:05 pmLyle,
What I understand from your comments is that Bush is doing the same thing FDR or LBJ did in nominating for the SCOTUS; which from your description is politically driven and improper.
October 10th, 2005 at 12:29 pmFortas was a SCOTUS judge at the time of nomination to Chief (though his subsequent resignation from SCOTUS only reminds us that cronies aren’t good appointments, qualified or not). FDR was trying to bring the country out of the Great Depression with his legislative agenda, opposed by the pro-business SCOTUS.
What is it again that Bush wants?…a freer hand to abuse prisoners, restrict a woman’s right to choose, deny patients the right to their final health care decision, give corporations greater liberty to run roughshod over their employees and consumers, etc. Yes, who better than a crony who agrees wholeheartedly with you to help along such a ‘visionary agenda’. God bless the King!
Lyle,
What I understand from your comments is that Bush is doing the same thing FDR or LBJ did in nominating for the SCOTUS; which from your description is politically driven and improper.
Comment by reasew
You are being far too kind. Lyle is an idiot.
October 10th, 2005 at 2:51 pmLook Lyle:
Local Christian Coalition Official Did Molest, Family Members Tell ‘The Oregonian’
By E&P Staff
Published: October 10, 2005 11:45 AM ET
NEW YORK After news broke that local law enforcement officials were investigating complaints that Louis Beres, longtime chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon, had molested three female family members when they were pre-teens, The Oregonian in Portland went out and interviewed Beres’ family members.
Two told reporters that Beres, indeed, had molested them. All three said they have been interviewed for several hours by detectives.
“I was molested,” said one of the women, now in her early 50s. “I was victimized, and I’ve suffered all my life for it. I’m still afraid to be in the same room with [Beres].”
The coalition led by Beres, 70, champions socially conservative candidates and causes. Its Web site describes the group as “Oregon’s leading grassroots organization defending our Godly heritage.” The group opposes abortion, gay rights, and stem cell research. It is affiliated with the national Christian Coalition, which was founded in 1989 by television evangelist Pat Robertson.
The group confirmed Beres is under investigation for alleged molestation. According to The Oregonian, Beres blamed “personal and political enemies” for the reports and said, “I never molested anybody.”
Beres is also former chairman of the Multnomah County Republican Party.
In a statement on the coalition’s Web site today, Beres denied any criminal conduct and said he wanted to “reconcile” with those making the accusations, if he can find out who they are. “I have asked The Oregonian to provide the information so I might proceed as the Bible tells each of us to proceed,” he wrote.
Two of the alleged molestations occurred decades ago and likely would not result in criminal charges because state law limits prosecution of certain crimes. But one case may fall within statutory timelines. It involves a female family member who was allegedly molested by Beres when she was in elementary school, authorities said.
Beres’ family members told The Oregonian that they called the child abuse hotline last month after several women in the family said they openly discussed for the first time what happened with Beres.
Rich Galat, 41, of Oakland, Calif., a Beres nephew, said he told detectives that Beres has molested several female family members over two generations. “My family has gone through hell,” Galat told the newspaper. “Lives have been ruined. Those of us who have come forward have been ostracized, verbally abused and the victims of character assassination . . . . It must stop.”
It’s over.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001263321
October 10th, 2005 at 2:53 pmLyle and the GOP support incest and child molestation.
It’s OK if you are Republica
Beres is also former chairman of the Multnomah County Republican Party.
October 10th, 2005 at 2:54 pmThis post is great. Brit Hume has clearly bought into the liberal line of thinking on affirmative action, i.e., that certain types of people have to be considered separately because their objective qualifications don’t quite measure up otherwise.
October 10th, 2005 at 4:33 pmWell duh?! Everyone knows a white male, preferbly middle-aged or older, will always be a better candidate for any political position. Jeez…next he’ll say that ‘chicks are bad at math.’
October 10th, 2005 at 4:45 pmhuh?,
why are you writing about this in this forum? i’m agnostic by the way and don’t much care for religionist hypocrisy.
October 10th, 2005 at 5:14 pmhuh?,
YES!!! I don’t like that Bush has nominated Harriet Miers. What about that do you not understand?
I’m not a Republican or a Bush crony. All Presidents do right and do wrong, and I think Bush has done wrong by nominating Harriet Miers.
What I was also pointing out to the partisans of Think Progress was that Democrats have also nominated cronies to the High Court so it doesn’t make much sense to call this a Bush or Republican “thang”.
October 10th, 2005 at 5:17 pmLyle displays that bizarro-world logic common to the intellectually-challenged Republicans of excrement-for-brains states (and Bush himself, of course).
He accuses thinkprogress for quoting out of context when it is clear that the full context was given. In fact the critical parts were highlighted in bold to separate them from adjacent material just so that the full context could be given, yet the critical parts would be obvious to people who weren’t quite such morons as Lyle.
Lyle could have pointed out that Brit made no mention that he knows that Bush excluded white males and some minority and female candidates from selection, and that it probably only Brit’s guess that Bush did so. But he picked up the ball from Brit, ran with it, and scored a touchdown – against his own side. Way to go Lyle!
Here’s the Hume quote again:
BRIT HUME: I think, Chris, that to the extent that the president flinched, he flinched on this point, and that is he decided it had to be a woman and/or a minority, and that narrowed the field. And I think it’s also the case that while he had just named to the appellate bench some quite likely seeming candidates, Priscilla Owen being one, Janice Rogers Brown another, and after prolonged battles, lasting years, gotten them confirmed, I think that he was still operating from a much narrower list. And in that context, she looked much better than she would have against a full field, men and women alike.
According to Brit, Miers was better than what was left after Bush excluded (so Brit surmised) all white males, a small fraction of the possible (as in “acceptable to Bush”) minority candidates, and a small fraction of the possible (as in “acceptable to Bush”) female candidates. Of the remaining (large percentage of) female and minority and candidates, Brit thinks Miers was the best. The best of a poor bunch, obviously.
But here is Lyle’s own-goal interpretation of what Brit said:
He didn’t only say Miers was unqualified when put up against “white menâ€, but both a full field of men and women, which meant to include Janice “Black Woman†Rogers Brown and Priscilla “I have vagina, backoff†Owen, AND men like Alberto “Mexican†Gonzalez and Miquel “Brown skin†Estrada.
See those words “full field” Lyle? They’re your words, not mine. It is undoubtedly true that Miers is unqualified when compared to the top white male candidates, or the top female candidates, or the top minority candidates. And almost certainly true when compared to the mediocre candidates in those categories. But that’s not what you said. You said she was unqualified compared to the “full field.” Unqualified compared to all the white male candidates. Unqualified compared to all the other female candidates except herself. Unqualified compared to all the minority candidates. That means you claim that she is worse than the worst white male candidate; worse than the worst minority candidate; worse than the second-worst female candidate (the worst female candidate being herself).
You said it, Lyle, not I. I happen to fully agree with you. She is completely unqualified to be even a toilet cleaner in the Supreme Courthouse. I just wasn’t expecting you to admit it.
However, Miers is qualified to be loyal to Bush (like all heads of crime families, he will have something to blackmail her with to ensure her loyalty). He’s going to need that loyalty when various unsavoury material (DeLay indictments, Plamegate indictments, etc) hits the fan. Gonzalez is just as loyal but Bush is also going to need Gonzalez to stay on as head of the Justice Department if Bush and his evil underlings wish to escape prison sentences. And if we’re lucky, even that won’t be enough.
October 10th, 2005 at 5:37 pmBrian de Ford,
Why wouldn’t you expect me to admit that Miers sucks? Seriously, I am not even a Republican although I voted for Bush. Having voted for Bush doesn’t mean I can’t disagree with him, because of course I can. You partisans here at Thinkprogress don’t appreciate the diveristy and sophistication of the right though.
For example Bush is at fault for allowing the cruel and inhumane treatment of detainees in American custody. How about that asshole?
And Brit Hume, in the last line place Miers with both men and women, and said she sucked when compared to them. Hume isn’t a racist, but he knows there are a hell of lot more white men who are better qualified then Ms. Miers to be on the Supreme Court and he’s right about that, and that is not racist to think.
You people just see “race words” in somebody’s speech and you just start pointing fingers. It’s cheap and anit-intellectual.
Miers needs to be stopped!!!
October 11th, 2005 at 9:56 amLyle, Lyle, Lyle….remember, if you disagree with the ego-maniacal musings of progressives – YOU ARE A RACIST. But nothing should ever surprise us about the wholesale immorality of a group who brings up (viciously) Brit Hume’s son who committed suicide. These are sick, desperate people who wield no power and have no compassion for any one or anything unless it is a “pet” project. They revelled in the disaster of New Orleans, they cheer American deaths in Iraq – all to advance an immoral totalitarianism.
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