Comments on: Rove’s 4th Grand Jury Appearance to Focus on “Discrepancies in Testimony” http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:23:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: ARC: St Wendeler http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-2/#comment-168447 ARC: St Wendeler Wed, 12 Oct 2005 04:05:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-168447 Sorry, meant to link to <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/#comment-166505" rel="nofollow">THIS POST</a> when I mentioned that this guy was an idiot. Sorry, meant to link to THIS POST when I mentioned that this guy was an idiot.

]]> By: ARC: St Wendeler http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-2/#comment-168443 ARC: St Wendeler Wed, 12 Oct 2005 04:04:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-168443 Seriously... will someone from the Left side of this comment thread agree with me that this guy is an idiot? Please? Just want to make sure that you're ALL not nuts. Regards, St Wendeler <a href="http://rovianconspiracy.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Another Rovian Conspiracy</a> (Yes, the name is intended to poke fun at the Left's ability to see a conspiracy around every corner.) Seriously… will someone from the Left side of this comment thread agree with me that this guy is an idiot?

Please?

Just want to make sure that you’re ALL not nuts.

Regards,
St Wendeler
Another Rovian Conspiracy (Yes, the name is intended to poke fun at the Left’s ability to see a conspiracy around every corner.)

]]> By: Loki http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-2/#comment-168132 Loki Tue, 11 Oct 2005 23:04:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-168132 Focus in a debate often reveals more about a person's integrity than the facts behind each statement. It can show whether a person is interested in justice or just making excuses for criminals. Nittany Lyin' (no Lion-heart of integrity there) reveals it's all about distracting people from their favored criminals, not actually *removing corruption* from politics. Yes, corruption has been in the White House before, but why highlight Monica-gate, a decade-old issue about a man's lie regarding his sexual activity? Because, the nit-wittany's of our country can't -- no, WON'T -- admit when their favorite leader is dangerously corrupt. It's a sad pattern, wherein those who initially support a group's rise to power will always ignore the truth of how they erred in their choice. Instead, they'll toe the Party Line like Brittany, er Nittany, vapidly avoiding the issue and either bringing up 'excuses' or distraction. What's next, Nittany? Will you focus your comments like a laser on the current issue of treason that is before our country, or will you babble out stale and unimportant issues such as "Gay marriage - how it's threatening AmeriKa." Maybe, for once, real Americans who support our amazing Constitution will stand up and ask for the heads of the traitors embroiled who in this scandal. Unfortunately, I doubt it. Folks like Nittany Lion will wring their hands, crying about Jim McGreevy and Chappaquiddick and Tea Pot dome. They can't argue with the scumbags in their own family, it just woulnd' be right. Ever wonder why American families raise so many ill-mannered and unethical children? Maybe it's because they see that Mommy and Daddy are as noble as The Prince, and instead of cleaning their own house of corruption, they hire Machiavelli to drag other's through the dirt. Why should people like Nittany Lion take responsibility for voting into office a man who keeps company with actual traitors -- within the Oval office? (Sex in the Oval office is a crime? TREASON in the Oval office, now that's a crime.) Yes, today's adults set an example for our children by avoiding their responsibilities, such as how they facilitated the placement of traitors within the hallowed halls of the White House. It's sad. Elected leaders commit crimes, and their followers start yammering about parity and hypocrisy, instead of putting the FOCUS on JUSTICE NOW. When are the Nittany Lion's of our society going to stop putting their primary attention on avoiding responsibility? Focus in a debate often reveals more about a person’s integrity than the facts behind each statement. It can show whether a person is interested in justice or just making excuses for criminals. Nittany Lyin’ (no Lion-heart of integrity there) reveals it’s all about distracting people from their favored criminals, not actually *removing corruption* from politics. Yes, corruption has been in the White House before, but why highlight Monica-gate, a decade-old issue about a man’s lie regarding his sexual activity? Because, the nit-wittany’s of our country can’t — no, WON’T — admit when their favorite leader is dangerously corrupt. It’s a sad pattern, wherein those who initially support a group’s rise to power will always ignore the truth of how they erred in their choice. Instead, they’ll toe the Party Line like Brittany, er Nittany, vapidly avoiding the issue and either bringing up ‘excuses’ or distraction. What’s next, Nittany? Will you focus your comments like a laser on the current issue of treason that is before our country, or will you babble out stale and unimportant issues such as “Gay marriage – how it’s threatening AmeriKa.” Maybe, for once, real Americans who support our amazing Constitution will stand up and ask for the heads of the traitors embroiled who in this scandal. Unfortunately, I doubt it. Folks like Nittany Lion will wring their hands, crying about Jim McGreevy and Chappaquiddick and Tea Pot dome. They can’t argue with the scumbags in their own family, it just woulnd’ be right. Ever wonder why American families raise so many ill-mannered and unethical children? Maybe it’s because they see that Mommy and Daddy are as noble as The Prince, and instead of cleaning their own house of corruption, they hire Machiavelli to drag other’s through the dirt. Why should people like Nittany Lion take responsibility for voting into office a man who keeps company with actual traitors — within the Oval office? (Sex in the Oval office is a crime? TREASON in the Oval office, now that’s a crime.) Yes, today’s adults set an example for our children by avoiding their responsibilities, such as how they facilitated the placement of traitors within the hallowed halls of the White House. It’s sad. Elected leaders commit crimes, and their followers start yammering about parity and hypocrisy, instead of putting the FOCUS on JUSTICE NOW. When are the Nittany Lion’s of our society going to stop putting their primary attention on avoiding responsibility?

]]> By: Eugene Duran http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-2/#comment-167945 Eugene Duran Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:35:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-167945 It depends on what the meaning of "you" is. It depends on what the meaning of “you” is.

]]> By: David http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-2/#comment-167557 David Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:05:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-167557 "I still cann’t figure out why Novak is not in jail?" He talked. And, 56, you are correct about morality never having anything to do the White House. Unfortunately, too many Americans seem to have a "sliding scale" morality, especially when it come to this admininstration, and the GOP, in general. “I still cann’t figure out why Novak is not in jail?”

He talked.

And, 56, you are correct about morality never having anything to do the White House. Unfortunately, too many Americans seem to have a “sliding scale” morality, especially when it come to this admininstration, and the GOP, in general.

]]> By: Nittany Lion http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-2/#comment-166801 Nittany Lion Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:55:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-166801 #56 - "Bring MORALITY back to the White House" - so, is what Clinton did in '97 supposed to be moral? Is it morally OK to fool around with White House interns then lie to a federal grand jury about it? My question is, when has morality ever been in the White House? #56 – “Bring MORALITY back to the White House” – so, is what Clinton did in ‘97 supposed to be moral? Is it morally OK to fool around with White House interns then lie to a federal grand jury about it? My question is, when has morality ever been in the White House?

]]> By: cynanne http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-2/#comment-166763 cynanne Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:59:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-166763 ... I guess you're right , St. Wendeler , re : your #2 assumption . After all , how could having a GAY MALE PROSTITUTE , using FALSIFIED credentials to get access to information , and access to CLASSIFIED information which is to be shared with his ' buddies ' ( take THAT whichever way you please ! ) - how could THAT possibly bother this " Bring MORALITY back to the White House " adSINastration ??? ... ;) … I guess you’re right , St. Wendeler , re : your #2 assumption . After all , how could having a GAY MALE PROSTITUTE , using FALSIFIED credentials to get access to information , and access to CLASSIFIED information which is to be shared with his ‘ buddies ‘ ( take THAT whichever way you please ! ) – how could THAT possibly bother this ” Bring MORALITY back to the White House ” adSINastration ??? … ;)

]]> By: St Wendeler http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-2/#comment-166589 St Wendeler Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:47:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-166589 Ahh, it was the JEWS who attacked the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon. Yes, that's a rational explanation... Why is it that every discussion thread on a Lefty site like this ends up going in one of three directions: 1 - Rove is master of some conspiracy (check - that's what this entire post is about) 2 - Jeff GannonGuckert is involved in some conspiracy (<a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/#comment-165682" rel="nofollow">Check</a>) 3 - The JEWS (or the Bush Administration or the BFEE) were behind the attack on Sept 11th. (<a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/#comment-166505" rel="nofollow">Check</a>) Thanks for the laughs... Regards, St Wendeler <a href="http://rovianconspiracy.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Another Rovian Conspiracy</a> Ahh, it was the JEWS who attacked the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon.

Yes, that’s a rational explanation… Why is it that every discussion thread on a Lefty site like this ends up going in one of three directions:
1 – Rove is master of some conspiracy (check – that’s what this entire post is about)
2 – Jeff GannonGuckert is involved in some conspiracy (Check)
3 – The JEWS (or the Bush Administration or the BFEE) were behind the attack on Sept 11th. (Check)

Thanks for the laughs…

Regards,
St Wendeler
Another Rovian Conspiracy

]]> By: Keith H. http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-2/#comment-166503 Keith H. Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:44:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-166503 Hang the bitch and let us watch. Hang the bitch and let us watch.

]]> By: Jennty http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-1/#comment-166477 Jennty Mon, 10 Oct 2005 12:59:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-166477 I've thought about this. I think that Scooty bootie, and probably Turdblossom are in deep trouble. I don't think Chenney or DUHbuhya are going to get nailed. Someone will take the bullet for them, just like in Iran Contra. Both puppet and puppet master will develop Ronnie-esque like Alzheimers and "not recall" anything. Scooter and Rove and a few low level minions take the bullets. There's no way, IMO, that we'll get the triple crown of Bush, Chenney, and Rove charged. Even if they were. Bush's last act would be to pardon Chenney, and Chenney's first act as President would be to pardon Bush and Rove. Maybe not Rove, the sacrifice of Rove would be some sort of attempt to "soothe" the savage temperment of the sheeple. I’ve thought about this. I think that Scooty bootie, and probably Turdblossom are in deep trouble. I don’t think Chenney or DUHbuhya are going to get nailed. Someone will take the bullet for them, just like in Iran Contra. Both puppet and puppet master will develop Ronnie-esque like Alzheimers and “not recall” anything. Scooter and Rove and a few low level minions take the bullets. There’s no way, IMO, that we’ll get the triple crown of Bush, Chenney, and Rove charged. Even if they were. Bush’s last act would be to pardon Chenney, and Chenney’s first act as President would be to pardon Bush and Rove. Maybe not Rove, the sacrifice of Rove would be some sort of attempt to “soothe” the savage temperment of the sheeple.

]]> By: Cranky Media Guy http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-1/#comment-166461 Cranky Media Guy Mon, 10 Oct 2005 12:22:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-166461 I want to see a Karl Rove perp walk as much as anyone, but it just isn't going to happen. Bush has the power of the pardon, remember. He is never going to run for any office again in his life, so why wouldn't he use a pardon to keep his good friend, Turd Blossom from going to prison? Yes, I believe that pardoning Rove will cause at least a mini-backlash at the Republicans, but I truly do believe that Dubya will cut his pal loose anyway. I just hope that the backlash is big enough to force this Mafia out of office by '08. I want to see a Karl Rove perp walk as much as anyone, but it just isn’t going to happen. Bush has the power of the pardon, remember. He is never going to run for any office again in his life, so why wouldn’t he use a pardon to keep his good friend, Turd Blossom from going to prison?

Yes, I believe that pardoning Rove will cause at least a mini-backlash at the Republicans, but I truly do believe that Dubya will cut his pal loose anyway. I just hope that the backlash is big enough to force this Mafia out of office by ‘08.

]]> By: Liberal Warrior http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-1/#comment-166209 Liberal Warrior Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:14:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-166209 Unfortunately, you’d be a hypocrite for arguing that Rove should go to jail Did he just infer I was hyprcrite because I think Rove should go to Jail and Clinton should have been left alone? He's not quite prepared for what is in the air. I will lie, cheat, steal, back stab, inform, false accuse, misrepresent, overstate, and embellish on any person , place or thing associatted with the Bush administration in order to harm them. If he's looking for a fair game, I can suggest some fairy tales for bedtime reading. I'm playing for keeps. Don't turn your back on me Mr. Republican because I will stick you deep. Unfortunately, you’d be a hypocrite for arguing that Rove should go to jail

Did he just infer I was hyprcrite because I think Rove should go to Jail and Clinton should have been left alone?

He’s not quite prepared for what is in the air.

I will lie, cheat, steal, back stab, inform, false accuse, misrepresent, overstate, and embellish on any person , place or thing associatted with the Bush administration in order to harm them.

If he’s looking for a fair game, I can suggest some fairy tales for bedtime reading.

I’m playing for keeps. Don’t turn your back on me Mr. Republican because I will stick you deep.

]]> By: kjlovell http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-1/#comment-166025 kjlovell Mon, 10 Oct 2005 02:42:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-166025 #42, Ken Lay is still running around because dumbya wants at least two new whackos on the SC to pardon all. Lay and the bunch are dumbya's so called friends, elite, have mores, his base. Roberts (Roberta SC Justice) and Miers (I'll save your AWOL BACON) are the swing votes for a get out of jail free pass for dumbya and his friends. #42, Ken Lay is still running around because dumbya wants at least two new whackos on the SC to pardon all. Lay and the bunch are dumbya’s so called friends, elite, have mores, his base.

Roberts (Roberta SC Justice) and Miers (I’ll save your AWOL BACON) are the swing votes for a get out of jail free pass for dumbya and his friends.

]]> By: happydem http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-1/#comment-166014 happydem Mon, 10 Oct 2005 02:28:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-166014 Plamegate = worse than Watergate. Iraq is a disaster. Add the procurement scandals favoring big defense contractors and energy cos, crony hack political payback appointments like Brown who resulted in thousands of Americans needlessly killed due to incompetence, Frist, Delay, the National Guard, Rove's dirty tricks in South Carolina 2000 and the Swifties in 2004, and all the mistakes that didn't have to be in leading up to 9/11 and the post-war Iraq disaster and the hurricane disasters. Total result - impeachment for Bush. End of Rove's political career. Republicans out of power for the next two decades. Plamegate = worse than Watergate. Iraq is a disaster.

Add the procurement scandals favoring big defense contractors and energy cos, crony hack political payback appointments like Brown who resulted in thousands of Americans needlessly killed due to incompetence, Frist, Delay, the National Guard, Rove’s dirty tricks in South Carolina 2000 and the Swifties in 2004, and all the mistakes that didn’t have to be in leading up to 9/11 and the post-war Iraq disaster and the hurricane disasters.

Total result – impeachment for Bush. End of Rove’s political career. Republicans out of power for the next two decades.

]]> By: Ron http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-1/#comment-166013 Ron Mon, 10 Oct 2005 02:23:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-166013 Hopefully Karl Rove will get a plea bargain and expose the rotten structure of the Bush regime. I can't wait for some administration official to say something on the stand such as "at the time I told the President, I was not sure he understood me because of the amount of alcohol he had consumed prior to our meeting." Hopefully Karl Rove will get a plea bargain and expose the rotten structure of the Bush regime. I can’t wait for some administration official to say something on the stand such as “at the time I told the President, I was not sure he understood me because of the amount of alcohol he had consumed prior to our meeting.”

]]> By: Better Dead than Red...state http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-1/#comment-165936 Better Dead than Red...state Sun, 09 Oct 2005 23:44:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-165936 I feel like a kid a christmas waiting for the Rove indictment. Haven't been this happy since watching Georgie melt down in the debates with Kerry. I feel like a kid a christmas waiting for the Rove indictment.

Haven’t been this happy since watching Georgie melt down in the debates with Kerry.

]]> By: AckSyn JAckSyn http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-1/#comment-165928 AckSyn JAckSyn Sun, 09 Oct 2005 23:31:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-165928 Another Nail in the Republican Coffin.... --+= OR =+-- HOW to NOT Secure 50 Metric Tons of Plutonium The Department of Energy (DOE) stores some 50 metric tons of Plutonium, the Latest Govt. Accounting Office (GAO) Report GAO-06-164T, dated Oct. 7, 2005, found at http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06164t.pdf shows us that the Republican White House and Congress has failed to properly secure 50 Tons of Nuclear Materials. (Deadly Plutonium) 50 Tons of Plutonium in many different forms, oxides, liquids, etc. that were to have been Permanently disposed of by the Requirements of the National Defense Authorizartion Act of 2002 (Monkey Boy.) Have not been complied with. "Look" Said the Intelligent Life Form, known as Arbustoians, as they approached earth, "The Freepers have not Evolved from their Previous State" "How can you Tell?" asked the 2nd Arbustoian. Says 1st Arbustoian "For they till Speak thru their Asses" Another Nail in the Republican Coffin….

–+= OR =+–

HOW to NOT Secure 50 Metric Tons of Plutonium

The Department of Energy (DOE) stores some 50 metric tons of Plutonium, the Latest Govt. Accounting Office (GAO) Report GAO-06-164T, dated Oct. 7, 2005, found at http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06164t.pdf
shows us that the Republican White House and Congress has failed to properly secure 50 Tons of Nuclear Materials. (Deadly Plutonium)
50 Tons of Plutonium in many different forms, oxides, liquids, etc. that were to have been Permanently disposed of by the Requirements of the National Defense Authorizartion Act of 2002 (Monkey Boy.) Have not been complied with.

“Look” Said the Intelligent Life Form, known as Arbustoians, as they approached earth, “The Freepers have not Evolved from their Previous State”
“How can you Tell?” asked the 2nd Arbustoian.
Says 1st Arbustoian “For they till Speak thru their Asses”

]]> By: Granite State Destroyer http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-1/#comment-165925 Granite State Destroyer Sun, 09 Oct 2005 23:22:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-165925 However, if the result of Clinton's perjury was to disguise a hummer and a stain on a dress and the result of Rove's perjury was to aid and abet the dismanteling of a covert operatives identity and possibly lead to the death of agents in the field, suddenly the blow-job don't look so bad. -G However, if the result of Clinton’s perjury was to disguise a hummer and a stain on a dress and the result of Rove’s perjury was to aid and abet the dismanteling of a covert operatives identity and possibly lead to the death of agents in the field, suddenly the blow-job don’t look so bad.

-G

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-1/#comment-165888 Marie Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:39:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-165888 Martha Stewart is hated by many so her crime of lying to a federal investigator brought her a heavy sentence. Karl Rove is hated by far more people than Martha Stewart - and he is dangerous to boot - so he should get the maximum sentence! Martha Stewart is hated by many so her crime of lying to a federal investigator brought her a heavy sentence. Karl Rove is hated by far more people than Martha Stewart – and he is dangerous to boot – so he should get the maximum sentence!

]]> By: Mary Poppin http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/09/rove-discrepancies/comment-page-1/#comment-165869 Mary Poppin Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:11:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2126#comment-165869 Martha Stewart was just an scapegoat. Look at Kenneth Lay is still running around. Martha Stewart was just an scapegoat. Look at Kenneth Lay is still running around.

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