NBC’s Howard Fineman:
By on Oct 11th, 2005 at 7:38 pm
NBC’s Howard Fineman:
There are “emerging divisions within the administration over why we went into that war, how we went into that war and what was done to sell it. There are people are out for Karl Rove inside that White House, which makes his situation even more perilous.†(Via AmericaBlog)
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A lot of active organizations have a resident asshole like Karl Rove that will stomp any number of toes just because they can and they can never see any end to the privilige. That shit comes around. Maybe that is what we are seeing now.
One thing for sure, blood is in the water and that pack of zombies can turn on their own like Resident Evil.
October 11th, 2005 at 7:55 pmSounds like Dubya is in for an almost untenable two years. Completely lame duck status at this point. Does anyone disagree? The other rumor is that he and Cheney are in the midst of a standoff as well (see Buzzflash)….who will hold his hand and make all the decisions if both Rove and Cheney are no longer at his disposal? If he wasn’t drinking before….he is now.
Three of the regulars on Harball are Fineman, Isikoff and Andrea Mitchell Greenspan and I must say I’m amazed at how much airtime (and just plain air) that they consume without ever making a point. They drive me nuts. Why cover politics on TV if you never have an opinion or aren’t willing to speculate. Only Matthews is more full of shi*
October 11th, 2005 at 8:23 pmIts amazing that Mathews is even talking about Plamegate Jay.
Did you hear that Delay is supeoning(sp?) Earl the prosecuter that indicted him?
What a joke, Delay claims that Earl “coerced” the grand jury into handing down the indictments.
Guess right now, the pugs can’t stand any prosecuter, dem or pug.
October 11th, 2005 at 8:45 pmThere are many rumors about a split in the White House into two camps — Bush/Rove vs. Card/White House. It has to do with the drums of war. Cheney is reportedly angry with George or perhaps frustrated, I am not sure. He also may be a leak target and extra-testy.
October 11th, 2005 at 9:12 pmCard and Rove don’t get along. There may be some desperate fingerpointing going on because there is so much trouble on so many fronts.
Buzzflash is a good source for a lot of information.
Ronnie Earle has been subpoenaed by Delay. What a joke! Except that Earle is a straight-shooting eccentric, giving the Delay attack dogs red meat. This is a case that will either bode the retirement of Earle or the rise of his star in Texas history.
October 11th, 2005 at 9:15 pmDelay is desperate, even if he is able to pull off this latest gambit, I don’t think the repugs will let him back into his power seat – and depending on how the elections in 2006 go, Delay may not ever be the same politically.
What I find inexcusable about Chris Matthews, Isiskoff, Mitchell et al. is their assumption that the audience is stupid. They get in front of that camera time and again and perpetrate this charade that the people running the country are credible. We know Bush is a phony and has absolutely NO CLUE about the nitty-gritty detail, lacks the education, the knowledge of policy and the statesmanship required to govern yet they pretend that he’s legitimate. They know that corruption runs rampant and that democracy is a thing of the past….yet they look into that camera, lie and collect their fat paychecks. The game they play is disgraceful and transparent.
October 11th, 2005 at 9:33 pmWell, let’s put it this way. Bush has surrounded himself with evangelical christians and continues to do so. The Pentagon is considering “tactical nuclear strikes” against other nations wishing to possess WMD. Bush believes in the rapture.
This is the man in control of our nuclear arsenal. That is more scary than Al-Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, North Korea and Iran put together.
October 11th, 2005 at 9:51 pmOne of the requests I’ve heard discussed is for there to be a list of all journalist’s (I’m specifically thinking about the White House press corps) emails as well as their superior’s name and email. If that list could be compiled and posted, we could all give someone like Andrea Mitchell a big dose of grief for her incompetence. Today’s print and broadcast media aren’t scorned so much for their pro-administration stance as they are for their laziness in doing their jobs. Any thoughts?
October 11th, 2005 at 9:53 pm#9 David: You’re not taling about the dreaded left slanted media are you? The one that Fox News says is so liberal that they are against and attacking the right on a daily basis? The MSM is doing a great job in reporting on the administration and oh this is just bullshit!
October 11th, 2005 at 9:59 pm“talking”, sorry.
October 11th, 2005 at 10:00 pmToday’s MSM is more braindead than Terry Schiavo ever was!
October 11th, 2005 at 10:01 pm#7 Jay, I couldn’t agree with you more! Why do these guys do that–they compromise themselves and talk to the public as if we couldn’t think without them.
October 11th, 2005 at 10:01 pmI have to go off message here because I just read that at the National Review 50th anniversary dinner, Sen. Joe Lieberman sat at the head table with Wm. Buckley and Rush Limbaugh. WTF!
October 11th, 2005 at 10:09 pmMaybe we should just go ahead and start a new government like the constitution says. This one has become to irresponsible and corrupt to answer to our wants and needs.
October 11th, 2005 at 10:22 pmIf Cheney gets indicted and found guilty ,I think bush would leave his place empty. I think this might reach bush at some point and rice who kept yelling fire in the crowded room.
October 11th, 2005 at 10:35 pmAll those trips to the CIA by Cheney…hmmm…
Watch Rove wind up being an innocent bystander.
October 11th, 2005 at 10:53 pmhttp://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/10/11.html#a5326
Video of Howard
October 11th, 2005 at 11:51 pmMy question is were these people thinking that the Iraq misadventure was a bad idea silent while it was being formulated in order to protect themselves; or are they now playing Monday morning QB and trying to put space between themselves and the coming doom.
Just asking, it may be a case-by-case deal.
Been pondering a better, braver America. Come up with a theory…You can’t call it terror if you’re not afraid of it.
October 11th, 2005 at 11:59 pmIt looks like Fitz may widen the investigation into the 9/11 commission that never was!
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Report_Lawyers_say_investigation_into_CIA_1011.html
Go Fitz Go!!!
October 12th, 2005 at 12:20 amFor more sheer joy and liberal schadenfreude, check out:
“The Rove/PlameGate Scandal Resource Center.”
October 12th, 2005 at 12:37 am#19
For the sake of argument I will accept your premise that “You can’t call it terror if you are not afraid of it.” The obverse then becomes true: “If you are afraid of it then it is terror.” I am deathly afraid of the Bush Administration as a demonstrable threat to my American way of life for the last 70+ years. This, in your logic, and my agreement, makes DUHbya and his criminal sycophants the greatest terrorists in our world today.
Given your definition, which I have accepted, then the Iraqi insurgents are battling terrorism. If they are battling terrorism and we are battling terrorism then, ergo, we are afraid of each other. If we are mutually afraid of each other, then we should simply declare a truce: we remove our troops from their Country and they remove their Mosques from our Country, and both resume normal lives.
Why doesn’t this happen? Because it has nothing to do with fear of each other, id est terrorism, it is all about dead dinosaurs. The only fear is that DUHbya’s Daddy and Uncle Dick won’t be able to get all the Iraqi oil to sell at $70.00 per barrel and $4.00/gallon (42 times $4.00 equals $160.00/barrel less $2.00 (the actual cost of pumping that $70.00 barrel of crude)–now that is scary, QED, terrorism).
I will gladly debate this point with any troll that can remain civil long enough to refute my logic or offer an acceptable alternative. Acceptable being one based on fact and logic, not a Repug Talking Point.
Come get me IRI!
Click on Clyde
October 12th, 2005 at 12:53 amThis is the way the rot starts. I want to see Bush stay in office the remainder of his term and in so doing destroy the prospects of the Republican party to such dwindle to nothing but a fringe of embittered and elderly throwbacks. Think of the fate of the Conservative Party in Scotland and Wales for the kind of scenario I have in mind. I don’t want them out of power. I want them disempowered, consigned to irrelevancy, spewed out into the dumpster of history, as gone as the Whigs. And if a two-party system still exists in America, the two parties are a real party of the left, and a conservative party not unlike the Democrats now.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:02 am#23 D’oh. “…to such a point that they dwindle…” that was meant to read. Never type, eat and conduct a conversation simultaneously.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:09 amMarie,
It’s even better than you think. Earle is already retired. This TRMPAC investigation is his last — he officially retired like a year ago, but wanted to stay on and finish this investigation out.
Let them call him. He’s got nothing to lose.
October 12th, 2005 at 3:54 amSee http://TheFuturum.com – you can send message to eternity there.
October 12th, 2005 at 7:46 amWooo Hooo, I hope CNN shows the “Frog March”
October 12th, 2005 at 8:50 amcan’t wait for the Ken Burns PBS miniseries on THIS Civil War!
October 12th, 2005 at 9:44 amTo show you how stupid DeLay and his lawyers are, the defendant in a criminal case CANNOT call the prosecutor to the stands. That is settled law in Texas and throughout the land.
Michael Jackson tried the same thing and got knocked down real quick. Its not the attorney as much as it is the ignorant defendants, such as DeLay.
In Texas an attorney is an officer of the court and can issue a subpena in a criminal case. In a civil case it has to be the clerk of the court.
DeLay is just trying to do anything he can to try and get public opinion on his side. Watch out folks, it may work.
October 12th, 2005 at 10:20 am